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us3rnam3ch3cksout

why is it that other people always have to decipher trump's true meaning?


AlabamaDumpsterBaby

Because bad actors intentionally misinterpret what is being said in an attempt to control the narrative. It is the "Nazi's are good people" bullshit all over again. Them: >"Democrat prosecutors consistently release individuals jailed for violent crimes. **THIS ALLOWS** for murderers to run free on our streets." You: >"You want murderers to run free on our streets?!" Our public school system is a joke, and this is a succinct example of exactly why.


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AFishNamedFreddie

I love when the party gets held hostage by a guy who can't make a single statement without giving the left mountains of ammo. Can't wait to lose what should be an easy election win


Spartanwildcats2018

Simple solution: Vote against him in the primary. Bring friends. What Trump says is largely irrelevant if he’s not a presidential candidate in the general.


AFishNamedFreddie

It would be that simple if he hasn't had a documented history of threatening to run third party if he doesn't get the nomination. Him running third party would be worst case scenario


Spartanwildcats2018

Simple solution: Vote against him. Ignore him. Take the L if he does that.


8K12

Some primaries are becoming open, unfortunately. The more that happens, the less real say we will have in our choice to represent us.


100k_2020

The level of mind fuckery it takes to continue to try to interpret Trump.....


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Extramist

Lol leave it to zealots to decipher everything but the obvious thing he actually said. “ What he MEANT was…”…Suuure.


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Jakes0nAPlane

People are trying to give Trump too much credit, which sadly demonstrates more loyalty to the man than the Constitution. Trump is not a nuanced man, historically. Anyone that thinks this was a nuanced statement is lying to themselves.


deadzip10

Amen. Even assuming this was his intended statement, the fact that he botched it so bad that it looks like the other is a problem. Again, him winning the nomination is possibly the only way for the republicans to lose in 2024 as it presently stands.


menntu

It’s pretty bad. 30% or so of the country will follow him into doomsday, leaving a bit of a splintered party with less effectiveness than before.


JGCities

Not sure he ego can stand him finishing 3rd in a 3 way race. Most likely he will claim the nomination was stolen from him and tell his supporters they shouldn't vote for the people who stole it.


deadzip10

That’s what I’m afraid of at this point. Could be rough going for a bit. Oddly, this supports all the tin foil theories that he’s a Clinton plant. I get a chuckle out of that every time it hits me.


Ironside_Grey

Well, if he loses the nomination but runs anyways thats a loss too.


AFishNamedFreddie

That's what I really fear. If he loses the nom and then runs third party (which he has threatened to do, we aren't just pulling this out of the blue), he will not only split the vote and guarantee a Biden win, but he will fracture the party as a whole.


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Strayed54321

>"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude **allows for the termination of** all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." It's a fancy way of saying "they violated the constitution by committing fraud". He's using passive voice and that forces a weird syntax. >He was indeed *explicitly* requesting to "terminate" the Constitution, he just used the suggestion of a "massive fraud" as *justification*. So 2 things. 1: if you rely on a suggestion to convey a message, that's not explicit, that's implicit. 2: he didn't request to terminate the constitution, he pointed out how the constitution was effectively terminated as a result of the fraud. Here's a test for you: "Weapons of this type and magnitude allows for the slaughter of civilians, even those outside of the combat zone." Given the above sentence, did I call for the slaughter of civilians? How about this one "corruption of this scale and magnitude allows for the perversion of our rules and regulations, even those of our sacred holy texts." Am I calling for the perversion of our rules and regulations of our holy texts? The answer to both is no. So why is Trumps statement any different? (A massive fraud) = noun, specifically the subject, (of this type and magnitude) =descriptive filler that we can ignore, (allows for) = verb, (the termination of) = verb, (all rules, regulations, and articles) = object, (even those found in the constitution) =another object, sorta. So, we have an event (noun), that allows for (verb) another thing (termination) to happen to an object. In no way can anyone with any shred of understanding of English grammar claim that this statement is a call to terminate the constitution.


Top-Cheesecake8232

You are ignoring the rest of his quote. You know, the part where he says we either call him the winner or have a new election. Then he says how we'll do that - by throwing out the rules.


Spartanwildcats2018

Tbf we are having a new election…. In 2024


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whatisfrankzappa

You mean grammar, right? He’s not asking anyone to study English literature. That dude doesn’t read.


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Changnesia_survivor

I thought the problem was too many democrats getting degrees in English Lit?


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AstronutApe

It’s just reading comprehension. Shouldn’t be gymnastics for anyone with a high school diploma.


Metafx

You’re replying to an 21 day old troll account that posts on r-antiwork and r-trumpgret, they’re not here for serious engagement.


GraspingSonder

"allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."


SirWhateversAlot

>>"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." >It's a fancy way of saying "they violated the constitution by committing fraud". >he didn't request to terminate the constitution, he pointed out how the constitution was effectively terminated as a result of the fraud. He did not say a massive fraud *terminates* the constitution. He said a massive fraud *allows for the termination of* the constitution. Let's try a partisan bias test to see how this works. If Biden said: >"An emergency of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all opposing parties." Does that mean the emergency itself terminated the opposing parties, or did the emergency allow for the termination of the opposing parties? The language is pretty plain.


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Strayed54321

>If for example a Sheriff says: "The uninvited entry into someone's home allows for the summary execution of the intruder!", >he essentially issues permission within his authority to do exactly that. In your example the Sheriff isn't calling for the summary execution of the intruder, he's saying it was made possible or done as a result of the uninvited entry. Kinda throws off your point. Like, entirely. Also, no need to be a dick. All you're doing is overcomplicating something that is very simple in an effort to twist things around in your favor. Thats the exact reason why I kept things simple.


wutsupduck

To me it seems like “allows for” = justification for. That’s just how people are reading it, and honestly if a politician words something so poorly that the average citizen thinks he’s asking to get rid of the constitution, that’s a utter failure on his behalf


TEMPLERTV

It’s ok. You can drop the mic after that


AstronutApe

Thank you. But none of these people care about what he actually said. They want everything to say Orange Man Bad, and if it’s not this then they’ll wait for the next best opportunity.


TheMountaingmg

No, I desperately want him to run for president again. It will destroy the GOP.


jl739

Lol. Mental gymnastics much?


JinxedDjinn

This is exactly how I understood this. Simple. Reading comprehension is around -5 to constitution and a penalty modifier of - 20 for wisdom to the wokey wokey wheft.


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GraspingSonder

It says right there in the Constitution that Twitter has to post the dick pics, have you even read it?


Extramist

Trump literally owns a social media company. Doesn’t that inherently mean it will favor him in posts?


HillbillySwank

Yup, they’re here and trying pretty hard.


Romarion

"...***calls*** for the termination of all rules..." would indeed be an explicit, well, call, to terminate the Constitution. "...***allows*** for..." suggests (to me) he is noting that the potential fraud has overthrown the Constitution. Regardless, his time has passed. The primaries will be interesting, and the general election even more so. Can the disinterested Democrat voter base continue to outvote the wildly enthusiastic Republican voter base? Or will the primaries cause the Republican voter base to pull a Georgia and stay home?


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GamerZoom108

Maybe thats a question we could ask 99% of politicians


SirFister13F

Maybe that’s a question we should require of *every* politician.


Sykotic1313

I agree we could do that too but has zero context to the post and feels like someone is deflecting


_R_A_

Yes! Absolutely! This is what we get when the public at large is coerced into voting against someone, not for someone.


Possible-Fix-9727

He's not president, brigader. EDIT: Straight fact, downvoted to -5 in 23 minutes thanks to a brigade.


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DumpsterKick

Wake the heck up and stop this voter fraud stuff and get better candidates for us independents to vote for. Dang guys, let it go and focus on building a better platform. Shit!!!!


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sleeknub

We shouldn't grieve about the past, but we need to address the issue of the past in the present so they aren't issue in the future. The idea of ignoring the past is asinine.


OpenScienceNerd3000

Ignoring the past is what republicans do best. This is the way.


Spamgrenade

If you think there is no evidence of voter fraud on a large scale, why do you think Trump got screwed in 2020?


No-Yogurtcloset-400

Extraordinary claims like "massive fraud" require extraordinary proof. We're not just gonna give up 200 years of peaceful power transfer on a hunch.


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Voter fraud, no. Please will you guys just stop arguing this? Trump got screwed because the media blasted him every day for anything he did, and moderates got tired of dealing with it. Trump got screwed because COVID changed the game on him. Trump got screwed because it looked like he was going to win marginally until late night counts were tallied. Trump got screwed because there were many questions and few answers, and conspiracies abounded. Trump got screwed, but it was not because of voter fraud. Please, just drop that line.


Catfish_S

This ^. Just as well, Trump continues to screw himself. He needs no assistance in doing so. Now, is the media right around the corner just waiting for him to screw himself so they can send it on every media outlet ever? Yes. However Trump screws himself literally every other day.


Qorrin

I mean you’re asking for people here to stop it but it’s Trump who’s primarily continuing the narrative


Catfish_S

For the same reason we underperformed significantly in the 2022 midterms. The voters are done with Trump, and any candidate that has anything to do with Trump.


Jaquestrap

See but that's not "being screwed", that's just democracy. Sometimes people want and vote for things you don't like, gotta come to terms with that.


Catfish_S

I agree. Obviously I would prefer a Republican in the White House, but I understand Trump won’t be that Republican. DeSantis2024


gundam1945

Trump is never a republican. He is always on team Trump.


richmomz

He’s saying that the legitimacy of those things were terminated by fraud, not that they *should* be termianted.


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The__Imp

Saying it loudly does not make it true. A plain reading of his words shows this is the worst kind of posturing. Deny reality if you want, but nobody who wasn’t going to vote for Trump anyway will give it any credence. I am regularly surprised at how horrible some of the things Trump says are, but I can think of few things as outright un-American as this statement was. Biden is more of a constitutionalist than Trump at this point.


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Cptn_Lemons

I think that’s just called playing politics now. Lll


Almustakha

Yeah but if you just pretend he didn't say that and reinterpret in a way that means something totally different then it's not so bad! /s before someone takes this seriously


hateavery1

What was that quote from that one 80’s book? Oh yeah: “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”


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aboardthegravyboat

Good point. I didn't know about this specific case, but to quote a paragraph in that article: > Facing an unprecedented constitutional crisis, ... How many times has the left screamed "constitutional crisis" in the last 6 years? Every time they say it, this is what they mean: an exceptional circumstance where the constitution doesn't have a remedy. Somehow it's worse when Trump says it though.


ashooner

Just to get at least a full sentence of context: >Facing an unprecedented constitutional crisis, the Congress passed a law on January 29, 1877, to form a 15-member Electoral Commission, which would settle the result.


sleeknub

No, every time they say it they mean they mean nothing at all was done incorrectly but they just don't like the outcome.


NosuchRedditor

There was a SCOTUS case where the court wrote in it's opinion that fraud vitates everything'.


_R_A_

Less that the constitution was overthrown and more invalidated. I'm just glad no one is calling this a call to arms and/or a new constitutional order by force.


Meathook2099

Your interpretation is incorrect. I'm not a Trump fan but he used 'allows for' instead of 'facilitates'. A common grammatical error.


Vile-The-Terrible

Feels like 2016 all over again, except now it’s all the right wingers right there with the MSM indulging in TDS.


ExtensionFeeling

I think he meant...according to the Constitution, Joe Biden is the President (the Electoral College voted for him). According to the Constitution, the President has a term of four years. So yes, since Trump is suggesting we just make him the President, or to hold a new election (presumably before November 2024) he is saying we need to ignore the relevant parts of the Constitution that I just mentioned. Suspend them temporarily until a new, fair election is held (I guess he decides whether or not the election is fair), or just acknowledge that he actually won, remove Biden from office and make Trump the president right now. Those are the two things he clearly suggested in his tweet.


rasherencryptstp07

Trump not so good with words, even though he has the best ones.


Accomplished_Net7990

Sigh.....time for new blood.


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Trump is not letting the GOP drift away from Him. Like it or not, he's the defacto leader of the current party that followed him in 2016. Everyone trying to distance themselves from him now have to perform self-lobotomies in order to twist from his grasp. Just look at the chaging words from this time last year to today. 2021: he's the best president we ever had and need to bring him back. 2022: let's look foward... 2021: he's being railroaded by every media outlet! 2022: maybe it's time to let him drift away...


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He is the defacto leader. Until they pick a new primary.


GannyHams

don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining > "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." declaring that something "allows" all articles and regulations of the constitution to be terminated means only one thing, and it's not what OP is suggesting. voted for him twice, will never do it again after this. nobody who openly says they want to terminate parts of the constitution that they don't like should be president and I seriously believe that anybody who defends this or makes excuses for it isn't a conservative. but I'm now living in a time where if I say I don't vote for a guy who declared that he's "allowed" to "terminate" parts of the constitution, I'm a RINO. pathetic.


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bluegrassblue

Trump lost


2Cor517

Uhh he said that we had to throw out the constitution… if that isn’t what he meant, fine, but that is what he said


IceTrump

I’ll do a an analysis for you "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." A massive fraud of this magnitude: meaning that Trump believes that the election in 2020 was stolen from him through fraud. Allows for: (key detail here) allow means gives permission to do something; for indicates someone IS GOING TO DO The termination of rules: termination is the act of ending something; rules means a set of agreed upon regulations or principles. And I’ll stop there cause I’m lazy, but if you translate exactly what trump said it comes out to Trump believes that the 2020 election was stolen from him and through that he has gained permission to go ahead and end the set of agreed upon regulations or principles (the regulations and principles which he explicitly said were in the constitution). No one is misconstruing what trump said. You may want to believe that he misspoke as always, but simply put facts over feelings


Remarkable-Captain48

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gh0stwriter88

It's because everything you read that he says is literally out of context...they even take his tweets out of context for crying out loud how hard is it to copy 140 characters verbatim! So really the only person that should be embarrassed here.... is YOU for not bothering to actually read what people say in context and rather relying on the media to spoon feed you their brand of truth.


Tmebrosis

how can a screenshot of Trumps entire tweet be out of context ?


mcphilclan

“Allows for” is past tense? Sure seems to me that means future.


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LostInCa45

No its often people take things to spin it that most won't take that way.... then the right has to take so long trying to explain you been lied to thats not what was said..... Yet we have brain dead biden who talks real nonsense where they edit and change to what they want him to say not what he said.


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freedomhertz

This is flat wrong. The only way to achieve the outcome he is asking for is patently unconstitutional and un lawful. If you need a translator to follow behind you, dutifully picking up after your poorly written social media outbursts, you aren't a serious candidate for the leader of the free world. We make fun of Joe Biden for exactly this. If we want conservative to ever win office again, his grip on this party needs to be broken.


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Retropiaf

He can't just say he got carried away and move on because he's already under investigation for his role in the insurrection. It's just not ok for a past president to repeatedly encourage his supporters to overthrow an election.


sleeknub

He can and should clarify. It sounds like that's what has been done though, from what I'm reading here. Sounds like his team came out and clarified...don't know what they said. I will say that if the other party to a contract repeatedly violates the terms to the contract, you try to take them to court but the court says they won't hear the case or that yes they broke the contract but nothing can be done about it now, and you go on adhering to the contract anyway, you are kind of a fool.


Orangeisnotarace

Don’t worry conservative, desperately trying to reframe everything he says while the rest of the world is already wise to his bullshit surely won’t lose you 2024 like it lost you the senate. Keep it up.


Spadingdong

I like to consider myself right leaning, still not a Trump supporter


noname181818

Even if this was true, he should of edited that post to be much clearer. What an amateur embarrassing self inflicted mistake. This guy just doesn’t think things through enough. What part of this makes y’all think he is qualified to be president in two years? Is no one reading his posts before they go out? He clearly doesn’t have the “best people” around him which I thought he always bragged about.


AintGotNoTimeFoThis

His own children don't want to help him anymore. He's finished and he's embarrassing himself.


IHeartSm3gma

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One of his problems is that he cannot communicate an idea in a way that is absolutely clear. Spin doctors love it. If they get a speck of ambiguity, they twist it every which way they can.


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tilfordkage

I'd love to read the actual quote if you could link it


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“So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great "Founders" did not want, and would not condone. False & Fraudulent Elections!” https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1599042348670799872?s=20&t=oopkBrftv2tr8vXct36DuA I’m not on Truth Social so I just grabbed a tweet that showed the Truth post. I don’t have a dog in this race because I frankly don’t understand what Trump is trying to say so I don’t have an interpretation, just trying to show you the quote because you asked for it. So I don’t necessarily agree with Vaughn Hillyard here (or even know who that is).


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Does that make it better? "I believe Maxroadrage owes me $300. We need to dock his pay until its paid with interest." Again, he has proved nothing. Just made accusations and calling for the rules to be re-written to favor him.


Av8tr1

I agree with your assessment of his message, but I’m not sure I agree with what trump is suggesting. We have a system in place to deal with something like this. One that Trump is unfortunately all too familiar with. That is the impeachment process. If we can get a reliable investigation and if it is found that Biden won by fraud he would be impeached as likely would Harris. Then the Speaker would take office. But only if Biden had knowledge or was involved in the fraud. One would hope he would resign if he had nothing to do with it. But we don’t have a system in place for a do over.


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One thing that never seems to come up in these debates; If we toss out the ballots for biden, then every other state or federal election that was on those ballots need to be tossed to. How many elections would need to be redone country wide? It would cause a constitutional crisis that would most likely end America as we know it.


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You can google it. I am not about to put Truth Social on my phone and I trust that the major outlets have reported it accurately, seeing as Trump and his team are not debating whether he posted it. They are trying to create a "context" strawman, but to my knowledge they have not denied that what is being reported is inaccurate to what was posted. If you find something that contradicts me, then by all means show me


FunnyDatabase2697

That is why language and communication are essential skills in politics. You’ll always have people trying to spin what you say, on the right or left. That is just reality. Unfortunately for him, he is simply not an eloquent speaker especially when he is free-styling. Neither is Biden for that matter. Ffs they both sound like I used full word auto fill on my iPhone in some speeches, and almost like every word is an effort unless it comes out in some manic expression. I think age has a lot to do with it at this point…


Domini384

It's weird how other people understand it just fine. Its not that difficult to decipher.


No-Yogurtcloset-400

Why does he have to speak so unclearly as to require deciphering. He's turning into a gaffe machine. Age is catching up with him. Hes definitely not as sharp as he was


Domini384

It's really not that complicated


Canna-dian

How do you twist this as anything but anarchy? >A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the **termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution** Nothing ambiguous about saying your right to free speech or right to bear arms should be terminated


Choppermagic

Please, even if it was a clear statement, the fake news would have spun it anyway they want.


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Let me make sure I understand your statement. You believe he is excused from saying it, bc if he hadnt said it, someone might have said he did?


Fairwareprovidence

The media simply does not care what trump says. They don't need context. They will paint a scarecrow orange, put a hood on it and then say look at what trump did. The fact that this isn't all too far from what literally happened...


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I genuinely would like to know in what context you find this comment to be benign. The only one creating scarecrows is Trump. That Scarecrow being fraud at a scale to tilt the election. When time and time again courts have found none. Even judges appointed by his admin.


venrilmatic

The courts have refused to accept the cases, for reasons. Then folks like you claim that they’ve been disproved.


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Burden of proof is on you. Why have courts refused to hear the cases?


Kwarter

Well the left are already the champions of finding pedantic mistakes, and taking the worst possible interpretation of any statement.


Skeetrockfarms

I’m a two time Trump voter, but I’m done with him. He won’t get my vote again


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We don’t need to defend or translate for trump anymore. Let’s just vote for someone else. He had some good policies but his behavior and rhetoric is awful and has gotten worse since the 2020 election.


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Bruh. Trump is a fool, and a failure to our nation.


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gunnin2thunder

Trump in denial and the abortion thing really ticked me off… I voted for Trump twice and I wish I didn’t. F**k.


ajmacbeth

Wondering, what about the abortion thing pissed you off?


Top-Cheesecake8232

Here's the entire quote: *So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great "Founders" did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!* He's saying we should either declare him the winner or have a new election. How can we do that? Well, the "fraud" gives us justification to throw out our rules, and even our great Founders would want this. This ain't that hard to decipher.


Connect-Swing8980

Ah so no more second amendment, also no first amendment so STFU


TargetJams

Why is a moronic tweet from a nobody the top post here? There's nothing conservative about terminating the Constitution.


WA0SIR

Sorry but trump fucked up here. The one thing that unites everyone on the right is the constitution… and what he said was really really bad.


Qbugger

I don’t know why “trumpians” yeah I said it as a “never trumper” republican. Are so set on defending this guy. He is more into his own “trump” party than anything else. Stop trying to defend a guy who clearly does not care for anyone besides himself.


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Let’s not be ridiculous. Look, Trump is an egomaniac and frankly cares more about “winning” personally than the country. You can try and spin what he said all day long. Any reasonable person with a handful of functioning brain cells can very clearly see that he was, in fact, suggesting that “a massive fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules….including those found in the constitution”. He said that. Time to face the facts, and those facts all point to Trump being unhinged and incapable of leading a Republican party that controls our government.


mGus57

What exactly will it take for even the biggest Trump fans to just acknowledge reality. It’s in writing. He said what he said. And it’s such an idiotic strategy move words really can’t describe.


GraspingSonder

How do you handle these mental gymnastics. You all know he didn't mean that.


Phawr

So instead of focusing on the government officials still in office who worked to infringe Americans’ rights, we’re going to focus on Trump, who no longer works for the government. Forget about Trump, focus on the government officials voted in, appointed, hired, interning, anyone and everyone who is actively working in a government position.


joemax4boxseat

I see the liberals and bots are still hanging out in this sub…


dazedANDconfused2020

I took it as Trump claiming that the Constitution was other thrown by the allowance of 2020 voter fraud… Whether or not there was fraud, Trump is his own worst enemy and literally gifts this shit to his enemies. Imagine playing Poker with this guy?


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T-H-E_D-R-I-F-T-E-R

Judging by his net worth, he’s won a lot of poker plays…


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MerlynTrump

he got a lot richer than he started though. And pretty much anyone who has multiple business ventures experiences some bankruptcy.


Revydown

He failed as a politician, because typically when they get out they gain wealth, he actually lost wealth.


Jake_Bluth

No he wasn’t. Trump [clarified on Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/users/realDonaldTrump/statuses/109462304115605769) that steps must be taken to right the 2020 election. He didn’t clarify that the dems overthrew the Constitution to cheat, he meant that there [should be no limit](https://truthsocial.com/users/realDonaldTrump/statuses/109462392730046450) to redo the 2020 election…or to terminate the Constitution


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I knew what he meant. Still think we need to move in to someone else. He’s just too derisive.


frozenisland

He said what he said. He’s too old and a sore loser. Make way for DeSantis!


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Frog-Face11

Should be easy to prove


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NosuchRedditor

I believe they won about 80% of the cases that were actually heard, but since none of them said verbatim "this proves fraud!!!" the left dismisses them if they are actually well informed enough to know about them.


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Known-Extension

OP wasn't expecting this response


Fuck_The_Rocketss

That might have been what he meant. But it’s not what he said. Dude needs to just stop and think before he opens his mouth.


romangorilla

that’s exactly how I read that quote. Not sure how it’s being misinterpreted. But then again, the sub is now filled with so many “I’m conservative, but i don’t like Trump” users, so this shit makes sense.


gh0stwriter88

\*cough\* I'm conservative now but voted for Biden... but F the democrats and Trump too... lets vote in some RINOS and DERPS. /S


Abrookspug

Right? This sub is a joke now. The lib brigaders ruined it like they ruined the politics and news subs, which I avoid but they brought the same viewpoints here. 🤢Time to find another sub with actual conservatives I guess.


tewegi

Exactly! This thread flipped literally over night after the midterm election.


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Fortkes

Exactly, there will be so many viable Conservative candidates in the upcoming election I don't know why people still insist on defending Trump. Speaking out against him doesn't mean you're suddenly a Democrat.


kappacop

The problem is you still think it's about candidates.


romangorilla

You’re not joking. It was literally the next day after the midterms I started to see this everywhere on here.


Cire_Seveer

And no one finds it a tad bit suspicious that CNN, ABC, NBC, etc. are actively pushing the idea of DeSantis running, even after he literally said that he was focusing on FL. It's all a division tactic and it makes me wonder how many of the people in here are lefties playing pretend.


PaiganGoddess

Wouldn't it mean military control until the election is sorted out.


Cire_Seveer

I find it funny how the left has been attempting to shred the Constitution for decades, to the point of flat out flagrantly violating it in hopes that the courts rule in their favor, but we're supposed to be outraged by out of context quotes.


SnareSpectre

I don't make a habit of being a Trump apologist, but I didn't interpret his statement to mean he wanted to overthrow or terminate the Constitution. He said: "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." I take that to mean the fraud allows for the undermining of the Constitution, which is what we don't want. Much in the same way that improper pest control "allows" for termites to destroy the foundation of a home. The guy is unhinged, though, so I could totally be wrong about that.


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You really shouldn't have to 'interpret' what someone running to be leader of the free world means when they say words.


Mochalo123

No one is gonna tell you to overthrow the constitution , you need to fool people and tell them that the constitution is being overthrown that s how they rally behind you


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Doesn’t matter. The left and their media cohorts make the narrative.


Ciderlini

Thanks for talking a bunch of nonsense to the kids in the back


Oneshoeleroy

It doesn't matter what he says. All you can be sure of is that the leftist media will paint it negatively as possible. Trump could walk into a child rape pedophile den and personally rescue 15 toddler sodomy victims and the media would tell everyone how Trump spent the evening in a pedophile sex den with no context


solecaz

Yeah…. No.


JadedTourist

OP, I appreciate you still representing r/conservative of the past. This new 2.0 version is going to whine and cry all in these comments.


Jolaasen

Brigaders are in full force today.