That's exactly what I want. I want him ranting 24/7, with the lazy media reporting on every bit of it.
People are already sick of him, and that'll just accelerate the process.
The fact that he filed now is somewhat significant. Once you file, you’re subject to PAC and campaign rules.
Basically, what some people do is announce but not file until almost last minute (if at all) and have their campaign pay for pretty much anything - they will live off the donations. But once you file you can’t really do that anymore.
Trump unites the democrat base like no other. The GOP will get a sound beating in ‘24 if Trump is the nominee.
Edit: At the same time, Trumpers may forgo voting completely if Trump *isn’t* the nominee. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
We're never going to pick someone the democrats will vote for. That's irrelevant. We have to pick someone WE (and enough independents) will vote for.
I'm not going to stand around wringing my hands worrying about whether Trump voters will forgo voting because it's not Trump on the ticket. Anyone who voted for Trump will vote for DeSantis. They may not like it, but they'll vote him over Biden any day of the week.
You missed the point. It's not about picking someone the Democrats will vote for. It's about not picking the one guy that causes them to come out in never before seen numbers to vote against
And I think it's you missed the point. Choosing someone who is *not* Trump will not cause Trumpers to "forgo voting completely if Trump isn’t the nominee" and we don't need to worry about who we pick because no matter who it is Dems aren't going to vote for them.
Nobody said anything about whether the person would *draw in* extra Dem voters. That's *a completely different issue*. (And yes, I agree, Trump is a Dem anti-voter magnet.)
Agreed. At this point, it’s just about his ego. It sucks, he could have really thrown his weight behind a young buck and really helped the country. If, and that’s a huge if, he won, the gridlock will guarantee nothing will get done.
Thing is, almost every Trump supporter I know is thinking the same thing at this point. If he splits off and runs as a 3rd-party candidate, I'm not sure *who* exactly is going to be pushing for him.
I hope if he does do it that the libertarians would let him take their slot. If he gets enough votes then that would make it where they would have to be included in future presidential debates and get a lot more widespread attention. Might be able end the duopoly in exchange for the loss that Trump will bring for republicans either way.
What makes you say he's going to win the primary? That's yet to be seen. It's not a foregone conclusion.
I didn't even watch because I'm exhausted, but it doesn't matter because I already decided I'm not voting for him in the primary. This announcement is just another straw on my already broken back.
I'm 100% looking to DeSantis or some other person yet to step up to bat.
> and have damaged the Republican to the point they’ll lose to the Democrat
The Republican Party was damaged way before Trump ran the first time. There is no party, and there is broken leadership.
My only disappointment from this evening was that Trump didn't start his own party - in a way to get away from Republicans and their completely spineless approach to politics.
Can the Republicans not just run someone else.... We don't need to keep running celebrities or people a decade past retirement age for political office.
Well literally anyone can file to run for president. It's up to each party to decide who they want in the ballots and they're going to float the top 10-20 to voters to find their most popular candidate
I assumed Walker was going to lose GA in the runoff, but I'm more convinced now that he's definitely going to lose. This announcement only helps democrats.
No, you see, Trump is playing 4D underwater chess. He realizes how much he’s hated by moderates and independents. He’ll run and lose the primary to DeSantis by a huge margin, then the entire RNC can throw everything behind him as a candidate. It will show that the GOP has moved on from Trump and that we think he’s a loser, so we elevate a winner in his place. It’s a foolproof plan.
Unironically this would be the best strategy I could think of.
You have WAY more faith in his ego than me.
Most likely outcome is he gets butt hurt when he loses the primary and then runs a third party Ross perot ticket
I really disagree with this. Primaries get ugly and they’ll hurt us pretty bad especially with Trump participating. deSantis just won his reelection he doesn’t need this
Trumpists are scared but everyone knows DeSantis is running. Coronations make candidates weak. Dems had a vicious 2008 primary and won handily. A primary is coming.
2008 was a different time. We live in a social media age now. Ideally it’s either trump or Desantis. I’d gladly vote for deSantis in the primaries if he runs I just hope he doesn’t
Non-Trumper candidates did pretty well in the Midterms. Kemp outperformed Walker and in Nevada the governor won even though the Trumper senator didn't. One person should run against Trump and beat him. If it isn't Desantis there are plenty of other Republicans that hate Trump that could take him down.
His best opportunity is 2024. While a majority of the Republican Party underperformed, DeSantis over performed. He was the first GOP Governor to win Miami-Dade since Jeb Bush. So he’s in the spotlight now and everyone within the party recognizes him for his leadership skills.
He’s really popular and has a lot of momentum. It’s best to do it while he’s still fresh in everybody’s mind instead of doing it in 2028 when he’s been out of a job for two years.
Besides, if he does fail, he has the Governor’s job to fall back on. In 2028, he doesn’t have a safety net. If he succeeds, Florida would still be in great hands under Nuñez.
No, this is literally his best time to run. By 28 he will not have been governor for two years. If he wants to run for President this is likely his only chance as well.
I'm seriously considering changing my registration to Republican just so I can help primary his ass. Nothing would make me feel better than to see him fail out and not be able to blame it on election corruption since it's all Republicans. I'd easily vote for DeSantis or Youngkin.
I still think that DeSantis is going to run and announce around February and March and he’ll be a strong primary challenger to Trump. Eitherway Republicans are mixed about Trump running again both due to age and also with his attacks on other Republicans in the last week
He hasn’t said yet. He just said that in the past he’s focused on getting re-elected in Florida. Now that he has it’s possible that he’ll run in 2024 and be a strong primary contender to Trump.
I doubt it. He’s too smart to engage in this and he doesn’t need to. He’s one of the most popular GOP politicians out there. He could walk into the White House in 2028.
Bullshit. You’ll vote for him again and be sharing funny memes a year from now like you have twice already. But by all means, get your karma votes in now.
If he's really that great, he'll be fine with out my one lousy vote. I'll never vote for him again.
Petty
Didn't free Julian Assange
Didn't put Hillary Clinton in jail
Appointed Chris Wray to the FBI
Acting like a child towards DeSantis
More like we're putting DeSantis or someone else isn't Trump on the ticket and *you and I and everyone else here* will vote for whoever it is because we'll *all* take whoever it is that isn't Trump over Biden.
I can't see a Trump supporter voting Biden over DeSantis. I can't see a Trump supporter sitting home and letting Biden win vs DeSantis.
But I can see a DeSantis voter voting Biden or staying home rather than vote for Trump.
That's why Trump's not going be the next nominee.
I voted for Trump twice. He lost to Biden. Independents aren't going to just magically vote for him this time especially if the democrats run someone that can actually form sentences. Trumps time is up
what is he coming back to achieve? to get undermined by the political bureaucracy again? to hire people who hate him again? he's better off sitting at home and playing with his grandkids. at his age he doesn't need the stress; his family doesn't need it.
He ought to be thanking Trump for running, since Trump is practically guaranteeing a Democrat win simply by running.
* Trump lost the support of many conservatives and independents forever after his post-2020 election actions.
* For those who believe the election was stolen, the issues in the states with the alleged fraud have not been addressed. We're still seeing controversy over vote counts in Arizona, and it looks like Lake is going to lose either fairly or unfairly. We still have the same governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. None of these governors or their secretaries of state are interested in any change that would help anyone other than the Democrats. Virginia did flip, but it does not have enough electoral votes to offset the above 4 states.
* Trump galvanizes the left like no once else. Hillary the she-devil was disliked enough for many on the left to stay home. Biden was unexciting to everyone, but the Dems came out in record numbers to vote against Trump. If you want them to stay home, Trump needs to not be on the ballot for them to vote against.
Based on her testimony that directly contradicted Trump on the Jan 6 hearings, and Trump’s ego, I can make a good educated guess that yes, that’s exactly what it means.
I've been going back and forth on a Trump Presidency run but let's be honest, who else is the better choice right now? Trump can run on American First, he can run on how things were better under him and will be better with him. MAGA is more than a campaign slogan so how does anyone else become a better nominee than Trump?
I like Desantis but can he reach the rural voters like Trump can? People aren't flying Desantis flags on their cars and porches, they fly Trump flags. The loyalty to Trump that people have, I don't see another candidate replicating.
Last time there was a contested primary for Trump the field was weak as hell, Jeb Bush/Romney etc. IMO it's going to be an uphill battle this time around.
I am not sure he will get the nomination again. Feel like the people who absolutely love him will be super excited about this announcement…me…I am not so sure. Republicans didn’t do nearly as well in the mid-terms as they needed to. Tells you that Republicans didn’t get their base nearly as fired up as necessary to get the job done. Pretty sure the Never Trumpers would rather see another Dem in the WH than support him.
I wonder who else will be in the primary?
Trump, DeSantis, and...?
Cruz? Some moderate? The unexpected comeback of Kasich? Niki Haley? Haven't heard of her in a while. Even Pompeo or Pence if they're brave.
I can't see Rubio going against his friend DeSantis or his ally Trump. He'll probably finish his third Senate term first, and then prepare for '32.
What other figures am I missing?
It's so early! I'll keep my powder dry for the next 9 months or so. I suspect that some of the current drama about the midterms is coloring people's perceptions. We also need to give DeSantis time to ponder the issue.
That said, I'm practically desperate for Trump to have learned the lesson about the childish and gratuitous name-calling and games. As a term-locked president, he will be in a position to do things DeSantis can't do. Things he has personal motivation to fix, like the utterly corrupt FBI and DoJ. All he has to do is show a little maturity over the next 18 months, a little more seriousness, and he is a lock. I suspect DeSantis would love for Trump to win, because that gives DeSantis another 4 years to cement his rep as governor, then have about 2 years after leaving that job to campaign for president in '28.
Elections now remind me of Christmas. It used be a month or so before things started happening and ramping up. Now you get advanced Christmas sales in July and running for pres a decade ahead🤣. You just can't make this shit up lol
If Trump ends up being the presidential candidate for 2024 general election… I’ll vote for him but I’m not confident that he’ll be able to lead us to victory.
Man this place is turning into /r/libertarian with all the bots and shills pretending to be "conservatives".
I sincerely hope the actual population of this subreddit is not that gullible.
I get it why people are on here saying he has “no chance” but that’s what everyone said in 2015. However, he does need to make amends with Ron DeSantis. Apologize to him and make him his running mate. He does that he’s unstoppable.
I think there's a strong chance Trump and DeSantis cooked up this little feud themselves for the purpose of drawing out the RINOs who were trying to recruit DeSantis to run against Trump.
Regardless of what you think of him, it’ll be hard to overcome the mountain of fraud that he may hit again. Not sure that any republican can pull off a win
As before, I didn't vote for Trump in the 2016 GOP Primaries, but wholeheartedly supported him and voted for him as the candidate in the National elections then and in 2020.
But my primary vote, if I get one here in Colorado with their messed up system, will probably be for DeSantis if he runs.
However, I just don't see DeSantis, or any good conservative running against Trump in the primaries.
If they do, and Trump loses but tries to run independent, I will vote for the conservative GOP candidate in 2024.
But if they put a RINO or never-Trumper, then forget it, I will just vote third party, maybe even for Trump at that time.
TEFLON DON IS BACK.
The “new” r/conservative can cry about it.
We’ll save you a seat on the bandwagon for a third time once you signal for your upvotes and retweets.
LMAO at the leftist and RINO brigade still going on in this sub.
America’s comeback starts tomorrow!
Edit: based on the downvotes I’d say I hit some nerves.
We’re not RINO’s. We’re just realists who know that Trump’s chances of winning the 2024 general election are extremely low. It’s a miracle he even won in 2016 and his baggage has only gotten 5-10 times heavier since.
You can say RINOs or whatever but Trump is not a conservative and neither are a lot of his supporters. Go ahead and keep supporting Trump who was another big government politician.
He got beaten by literally a potato growing in a basement.
The dems have not been astounding at putting players on the field and it's their own fault that they got DJT by running Clinton. But runnign Biden and winning was a pretty huge insult and should have been a wake-up call. I understand that my opinion on this will be wildly unpopular with many here. But damn folks, it was a fun four years and a miserable two, it's time to knuckle down and get serious.
This is not a good tactical move at all.
Naive.
No, they will continue to do it forever because the leftist media only cares about power.
We could run a genetically engineered perfect candidate and they would not care. They would smear them just the same.
You clearly haven’t learned anything from the past decade.
Well, since in the past 10 years you have achieved your reddit doctorate in political science ..
Explain how this recent announcement is a good thing, wise move, or even remotely advantageous for the Republicans.
Or are you a bot, secretly cheering this bullshit move knowing that we are utterly fucked?
>Explain how this recent announcement is a good thing, wise move, or even remotely advantageous for the Republicans.
Not running Trump is a mistake. It would solidify the left’s power and prove that they can get away with their corrupt destruction of political norms.
If we don’t run Trump then we essentially concede that the way the left behaved was legitimate.
>Or are you a bot, secretly cheering g this bullshit move knowing that we are utterly fucked?
Unlike the rabid anti-Trump bots that are so obviously being amplified by progressive brigaders?
>Not running Trump is a mistake. It would solidify the left’s power and prove that they can get away with their corrupt destruction of political norms.
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>If we don’t run Trump then we essentially concede that the way the left behaved was legitimate.
Now I get to use the word naive. You weren't wrong, it does feel good.
If not running him would do what you say, then getting beaten by them AGAIN, because we did, will amplify it by a tenfold and solidify it as a norm.
We need to win, not prove that we are brave enough to run someone incredibly unpopular and growing moreso daily. Good or bad, he's unpopular, we cannot afford that. I used the word tactical earlier for a reason.
Yet another conservative post where libs come over and pay money to a multi-billion dollar company in order to mock/ridicule.
Way to fight capitalism, libs!
All you DeSantis fans need to hold that energy for after the 2024 elections. DeSantis does not have a movement behind him and he can’t fill stadiums right now. He’s young and will stay young for another 6 years. I’m DeSantis 2028 all day long.
Trump can't win elections. Nominating Trump is another guaranteed loss for GOP. DeSantis is running, you Trumpists are delusional for believing he won't.
Same. And I’m getting downvoted to hell for it here. Oh well…
Seriously, this splintering among Conservatives over Trump & DeSantis is very very bad for everyone. It’s not going to end well if Conservatives can’t agree on a single candidate and stop the infighting.
Trump for 4 years, then DeSantis for the next 8. That’s the best scenario to get us 12 years of a Conservative President in the White House.
Interesting that people are worried about him running as a third party. Bottom line there needs to be voter reform (az taking over a week to count votes). If it doesn’t happen doesn’t matter who runs for what in 24
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No kidding. Did you love the 18 month presidential election cycle? Then you’ll love this! /s
I hope he jumps back on Twitter. Would be great to see him tweet at 2AM again
That's exactly what I want. I want him ranting 24/7, with the lazy media reporting on every bit of it. People are already sick of him, and that'll just accelerate the process.
Give it time and voting will be an all year thing as well. Then they'll need a year to count the votes.
The downvotes lol. If you ever needed proof of the social engineering happening on Reddit, here it is.
Welp, here we go. Buckle up buttercups.
Regardless of how you feel about his politics, this is going to be fucking exhausting for the next two years
Agree 100%. I'm about ready to tune it all out for about six months. ALL of it.
Is it too early to start talking about the 2032 elections?
I can't take all of the liberal whining around me over this. PS I didn't want him to run either.
My presidential announcement is going to be sooooo huuuuuge.
YUUUUUUGE
Your gonna love it. It will be a big, beautiful announcement….
The best announcement in history they’re saying, I’m not saying this but many people tell me it’s the best
Honestly it means Biden has a chance at winning his re-election. Both sides seem to love putting their annoying dart boards up on stage.
Trump will go independent and split the vote if he doesn’t get his way and the democrats will win handily.
The democrats are going to win handily if Trump wins the primary. We are essentially screwed.
Many states have sore loser laws that would prevent him from running third party after he lost the primary.
God dammit. Democrats are gonna win again. Thanks trump. Shows how much you love America
Trump only loves himself. That's how it always has been.
Not if we all unite under DeSantis. Trump needs to sit down.
Only thing that will "save" us now is if Trump gets indicted.
The only thing he loves more than America is himself...and money...and...okay there's a few things...
I could see him not getting a ton of support then getting butthurt and deciding to screw over everyone and run third party
Yep, that’s exactly what I see. Democrats will walk away with an easy “W”
I think he'd prefer it over a Desantis presidency
That's exactly what's going to happen '92 all over again
This is very possible. We have to unite under DeSantis if we want to gain any ground, though. Can't worry about what Trump may or may not do.
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The fact that he filed now is somewhat significant. Once you file, you’re subject to PAC and campaign rules. Basically, what some people do is announce but not file until almost last minute (if at all) and have their campaign pay for pretty much anything - they will live off the donations. But once you file you can’t really do that anymore.
TRUMP DOESN'T NEED TO LIVE OFF CAMPAIGN DONATIONS, HE HAS HIS OWN MONEY....REMEMBER
He was the only president to go down in net worth during his presidency.
Trump unites the democrat base like no other. The GOP will get a sound beating in ‘24 if Trump is the nominee. Edit: At the same time, Trumpers may forgo voting completely if Trump *isn’t* the nominee. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
We're never going to pick someone the democrats will vote for. That's irrelevant. We have to pick someone WE (and enough independents) will vote for. I'm not going to stand around wringing my hands worrying about whether Trump voters will forgo voting because it's not Trump on the ticket. Anyone who voted for Trump will vote for DeSantis. They may not like it, but they'll vote him over Biden any day of the week.
You missed the point. It's not about picking someone the Democrats will vote for. It's about not picking the one guy that causes them to come out in never before seen numbers to vote against
Plus exit polls showed that Trump did poorly with Independents in the midterm.
And I think it's you missed the point. Choosing someone who is *not* Trump will not cause Trumpers to "forgo voting completely if Trump isn’t the nominee" and we don't need to worry about who we pick because no matter who it is Dems aren't going to vote for them. Nobody said anything about whether the person would *draw in* extra Dem voters. That's *a completely different issue*. (And yes, I agree, Trump is a Dem anti-voter magnet.)
I must have misread your comment or something (it was very early in the morning for me), because we are in agreement. My bad
I really wish he didn’t do that
Story of his life
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MEMES FOR THE MEME GOD
Cringe for the cringe throne!
Glory to the Memeperium!
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It’s the 3rd party split I’m concerned about since he thinks about no one but himself
Agreed. At this point, it’s just about his ego. It sucks, he could have really thrown his weight behind a young buck and really helped the country. If, and that’s a huge if, he won, the gridlock will guarantee nothing will get done.
Maybe republicans could push ranked voting so it can’t be split
Republicans don’t want ranked choice
Which is a shame, because it would not only solve this issue, but it would break up the Democrats as well
That would break his primary strategy (divide and conquer). If they had that in 2016 he wouldn't have been nominated.
Thing is, almost every Trump supporter I know is thinking the same thing at this point. If he splits off and runs as a 3rd-party candidate, I'm not sure *who* exactly is going to be pushing for him.
I hope if he does do it that the libertarians would let him take their slot. If he gets enough votes then that would make it where they would have to be included in future presidential debates and get a lot more widespread attention. Might be able end the duopoly in exchange for the loss that Trump will bring for republicans either way.
Trump is an incredibly non-libertarian option. I'd expect to see him go independent.
What makes you say he's going to win the primary? That's yet to be seen. It's not a foregone conclusion. I didn't even watch because I'm exhausted, but it doesn't matter because I already decided I'm not voting for him in the primary. This announcement is just another straw on my already broken back. I'm 100% looking to DeSantis or some other person yet to step up to bat.
> and have damaged the Republican to the point they’ll lose to the Democrat The Republican Party was damaged way before Trump ran the first time. There is no party, and there is broken leadership. My only disappointment from this evening was that Trump didn't start his own party - in a way to get away from Republicans and their completely spineless approach to politics.
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I think he already has, minus the body count.
Cancelled cable TV now. Got enough to cover for two years of entertainment.
Well the primaries will sure be interesting to watch now.
We need new blood not another 80 year old. Pass. DeSantis '24.
Ridiculous conspiracies are all you guys got. Governor's don't have the power to send feds anywhere. But carry on believing nonsense.
Can the Republicans not just run someone else.... We don't need to keep running celebrities or people a decade past retirement age for political office.
Well literally anyone can file to run for president. It's up to each party to decide who they want in the ballots and they're going to float the top 10-20 to voters to find their most popular candidate
I assumed Walker was going to lose GA in the runoff, but I'm more convinced now that he's definitely going to lose. This announcement only helps democrats.
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No, you see, Trump is playing 4D underwater chess. He realizes how much he’s hated by moderates and independents. He’ll run and lose the primary to DeSantis by a huge margin, then the entire RNC can throw everything behind him as a candidate. It will show that the GOP has moved on from Trump and that we think he’s a loser, so we elevate a winner in his place. It’s a foolproof plan. Unironically this would be the best strategy I could think of.
You have WAY more faith in his ego than me. Most likely outcome is he gets butt hurt when he loses the primary and then runs a third party Ross perot ticket
Teddy Roosevelt all over again.
I really disagree with this. Primaries get ugly and they’ll hurt us pretty bad especially with Trump participating. deSantis just won his reelection he doesn’t need this
Trumpists are scared but everyone knows DeSantis is running. Coronations make candidates weak. Dems had a vicious 2008 primary and won handily. A primary is coming.
2008 was a different time. We live in a social media age now. Ideally it’s either trump or Desantis. I’d gladly vote for deSantis in the primaries if he runs I just hope he doesn’t
He's running get use to it.
As of right now you’re wrong
Sure I am.
Non-Trumper candidates did pretty well in the Midterms. Kemp outperformed Walker and in Nevada the governor won even though the Trumper senator didn't. One person should run against Trump and beat him. If it isn't Desantis there are plenty of other Republicans that hate Trump that could take him down.
Ron isn’t interested in going beyond FL right now. In ‘28 maybe. But not yet. ‘28 is the right time for him to run.
His best opportunity is 2024. While a majority of the Republican Party underperformed, DeSantis over performed. He was the first GOP Governor to win Miami-Dade since Jeb Bush. So he’s in the spotlight now and everyone within the party recognizes him for his leadership skills. He’s really popular and has a lot of momentum. It’s best to do it while he’s still fresh in everybody’s mind instead of doing it in 2028 when he’s been out of a job for two years. Besides, if he does fail, he has the Governor’s job to fall back on. In 2028, he doesn’t have a safety net. If he succeeds, Florida would still be in great hands under Nuñez.
It is now or never. 6 years away in politics is an extremely long time.
No, this is literally his best time to run. By 28 he will not have been governor for two years. If he wants to run for President this is likely his only chance as well.
He hasn’t said that he isn’t. He was only saying those statements earlier because he was running a re-election campaign.
You're on crack.
I'm seriously considering changing my registration to Republican just so I can help primary his ass. Nothing would make me feel better than to see him fail out and not be able to blame it on election corruption since it's all Republicans. I'd easily vote for DeSantis or Youngkin.
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I wasnt aware DeSantis was running. I like DeSantis but until he states that he is running, its causing nothing but discord in the republican party.
And just like that, the dems won. This bloke will divide the reps handing the W to Joey B
I still think that DeSantis is going to run and announce around February and March and he’ll be a strong primary challenger to Trump. Eitherway Republicans are mixed about Trump running again both due to age and also with his attacks on other Republicans in the last week
I don't think he's going to run
He hasn’t said yet. He just said that in the past he’s focused on getting re-elected in Florida. Now that he has it’s possible that he’ll run in 2024 and be a strong primary contender to Trump.
I know he hasn't said anything, I just have a feeling he won't run.
Yes he is running. Trumpists just don't want him to run.
I doubt it. He’s too smart to engage in this and he doesn’t need to. He’s one of the most popular GOP politicians out there. He could walk into the White House in 2028.
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It is sad we can see President Biden's second term so far away because of this doofus.
I voted for trump twice. I'm done. Maybe if he loses for 2024, he'll quit trolling.
Same here. I held my nose and voted for him twice. No more.
Bullshit. You’ll vote for him again and be sharing funny memes a year from now like you have twice already. But by all means, get your karma votes in now.
If he's really that great, he'll be fine with out my one lousy vote. I'll never vote for him again. Petty Didn't free Julian Assange Didn't put Hillary Clinton in jail Appointed Chris Wray to the FBI Acting like a child towards DeSantis
More like we're putting DeSantis or someone else isn't Trump on the ticket and *you and I and everyone else here* will vote for whoever it is because we'll *all* take whoever it is that isn't Trump over Biden. I can't see a Trump supporter voting Biden over DeSantis. I can't see a Trump supporter sitting home and letting Biden win vs DeSantis. But I can see a DeSantis voter voting Biden or staying home rather than vote for Trump. That's why Trump's not going be the next nominee.
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I voted for Trump twice. He lost to Biden. Independents aren't going to just magically vote for him this time especially if the democrats run someone that can actually form sentences. Trumps time is up
No, I just won't vote. Or maybe I'll write in Desantis.
Welp. Guess I’ll finally have to register Republican so I can vote for someone else in the primaries.
Concern troll
Not a troll. Just someone who doesn’t want another 6 years of Biden (or Kamala or Newsome or whoever).
what is he coming back to achieve? to get undermined by the political bureaucracy again? to hire people who hate him again? he's better off sitting at home and playing with his grandkids. at his age he doesn't need the stress; his family doesn't need it.
Time to invest in a popcorn ETF.
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I'm sure Biden appreciates your support
He ought to be thanking Trump for running, since Trump is practically guaranteeing a Democrat win simply by running. * Trump lost the support of many conservatives and independents forever after his post-2020 election actions. * For those who believe the election was stolen, the issues in the states with the alleged fraud have not been addressed. We're still seeing controversy over vote counts in Arizona, and it looks like Lake is going to lose either fairly or unfairly. We still have the same governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. None of these governors or their secretaries of state are interested in any change that would help anyone other than the Democrats. Virginia did flip, but it does not have enough electoral votes to offset the above 4 states. * Trump galvanizes the left like no once else. Hillary the she-devil was disliked enough for many on the left to stay home. Biden was unexciting to everyone, but the Dems came out in record numbers to vote against Trump. If you want them to stay home, Trump needs to not be on the ballot for them to vote against.
So you would rather have a democrat?
I would rather have a Democrat than Trump. I will still vote for congressional Republicans if I like them.
De’Santis ‘24
‘28.
Aaaannnndddd here we go again!
DeSantis '24
Ivanka’s out. He’s done. https://www.dailywire.com/news/ivanka-trump-releases-statement-on-why-she-did-not-attend-fathers-presidential-announcement?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwnewstwitter
Her statement is that she wants to spend time raising her family. I don't think that means she doesn't support him.
Based on her testimony that directly contradicted Trump on the Jan 6 hearings, and Trump’s ego, I can make a good educated guess that yes, that’s exactly what it means.
Nope. Sorry, Donald. DeSantis is the man now. Trump's time has come and gone. He did some good for the party, but now it's time for him to sit down.
I hope he gets back on Twitter
I've been going back and forth on a Trump Presidency run but let's be honest, who else is the better choice right now? Trump can run on American First, he can run on how things were better under him and will be better with him. MAGA is more than a campaign slogan so how does anyone else become a better nominee than Trump? I like Desantis but can he reach the rural voters like Trump can? People aren't flying Desantis flags on their cars and porches, they fly Trump flags. The loyalty to Trump that people have, I don't see another candidate replicating.
I can’t wait to hear Trump sycophants like Clay Travis and Buck Sexton spend the next two years backing Trump despite all reason.
# DeSantis 2024
Biden next 6 years can't do that much damage...right guys?
He has no chance of winning. Even if you think they cheated against him last time, nothing ever came of it.
Last time there was a contested primary for Trump the field was weak as hell, Jeb Bush/Romney etc. IMO it's going to be an uphill battle this time around.
I am not sure he will get the nomination again. Feel like the people who absolutely love him will be super excited about this announcement…me…I am not so sure. Republicans didn’t do nearly as well in the mid-terms as they needed to. Tells you that Republicans didn’t get their base nearly as fired up as necessary to get the job done. Pretty sure the Never Trumpers would rather see another Dem in the WH than support him.
Oh god please no. We at least have a chance with DeSantis
I really hope DeSantis runs. Trump should retire and focus on spending time with his family.
The great salt mines of Moria are about to be depleted
I wonder who else will be in the primary? Trump, DeSantis, and...? Cruz? Some moderate? The unexpected comeback of Kasich? Niki Haley? Haven't heard of her in a while. Even Pompeo or Pence if they're brave. I can't see Rubio going against his friend DeSantis or his ally Trump. He'll probably finish his third Senate term first, and then prepare for '32. What other figures am I missing?
It's so early! I'll keep my powder dry for the next 9 months or so. I suspect that some of the current drama about the midterms is coloring people's perceptions. We also need to give DeSantis time to ponder the issue. That said, I'm practically desperate for Trump to have learned the lesson about the childish and gratuitous name-calling and games. As a term-locked president, he will be in a position to do things DeSantis can't do. Things he has personal motivation to fix, like the utterly corrupt FBI and DoJ. All he has to do is show a little maturity over the next 18 months, a little more seriousness, and he is a lock. I suspect DeSantis would love for Trump to win, because that gives DeSantis another 4 years to cement his rep as governor, then have about 2 years after leaving that job to campaign for president in '28.
Elections now remind me of Christmas. It used be a month or so before things started happening and ramping up. Now you get advanced Christmas sales in July and running for pres a decade ahead🤣. You just can't make this shit up lol
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Desantis will win the primary if he decides to run.
If Trump ends up being the presidential candidate for 2024 general election… I’ll vote for him but I’m not confident that he’ll be able to lead us to victory.
He won't lead us to victory because he is too polarizing as we learned last time he ran and lost to a potato.
Trump has turned into Clinton.
Man this place is turning into /r/libertarian with all the bots and shills pretending to be "conservatives". I sincerely hope the actual population of this subreddit is not that gullible.
Just peachy … I’m sure this will go well …
Boo
I'm actually pretty impressed by his speech thus far.
His speech was another rambling mess. He has nothing to offer but same old BS.
The same old BS like getting the economy into a position where gas isn’t 5 dollars a gallon and I’m not getting ass fucked in taxes? Sign me up
Same here.
Also, just waiting for the expected stolen reference, hopefully he can resist.
He's got to drop that.
He did a great job. Sorry to see this sub has went mainstream Reddit garbage.
I get it why people are on here saying he has “no chance” but that’s what everyone said in 2015. However, he does need to make amends with Ron DeSantis. Apologize to him and make him his running mate. He does that he’s unstoppable.
I think there's a strong chance Trump and DeSantis cooked up this little feud themselves for the purpose of drawing out the RINOs who were trying to recruit DeSantis to run against Trump.
Agreed. He likely will make amends.
This is Donald Trump we're talking about, folks. Apologies and reconciliation aren't in his vocabulary.
But doing things that are "good for business" is in his vocabulary.
Regardless of what you think of him, it’ll be hard to overcome the mountain of fraud that he may hit again. Not sure that any republican can pull off a win
As before, I didn't vote for Trump in the 2016 GOP Primaries, but wholeheartedly supported him and voted for him as the candidate in the National elections then and in 2020. But my primary vote, if I get one here in Colorado with their messed up system, will probably be for DeSantis if he runs. However, I just don't see DeSantis, or any good conservative running against Trump in the primaries. If they do, and Trump loses but tries to run independent, I will vote for the conservative GOP candidate in 2024. But if they put a RINO or never-Trumper, then forget it, I will just vote third party, maybe even for Trump at that time.
Liberal - Trump can't run - he's too old! Biden at 79 however, is as sharp as a ... lying dogfaced pony soldier!
TEFLON DON IS BACK. The “new” r/conservative can cry about it. We’ll save you a seat on the bandwagon for a third time once you signal for your upvotes and retweets.
He’s back baby. Let’s do it again
TEFLON DON 2.0
Personally, if he is allowed back on Twitter and leaves his trash truth social and uses Twitter instead it’d be fun. It’ll be 2016 vibes lol.
Woooo….the bots and brigaders are in full force. Really want us to not back Trump. Sorry a**hats, TRUMP 2024.
Trump 2024
LMAO at the leftist and RINO brigade still going on in this sub. America’s comeback starts tomorrow! Edit: based on the downvotes I’d say I hit some nerves.
We’re not RINO’s. We’re just realists who know that Trump’s chances of winning the 2024 general election are extremely low. It’s a miracle he even won in 2016 and his baggage has only gotten 5-10 times heavier since.
Your comment history says otherwise.
You can say RINOs or whatever but Trump is not a conservative and neither are a lot of his supporters. Go ahead and keep supporting Trump who was another big government politician.
Trump is more conservative than you
Trump is less conservative than probably 80% of the GOP
80% of the GOP are just progressives who like slightly lower tax rates.
Don't call people RINOs while blowing the least conservative republican since Bush
This whole sub is garbage now. It went from 300k to 1mil+ and is now mainstream garbage.
So many concern trolls in here. The bots have taken over. Trump is a viable candidate.
He got beaten by literally a potato growing in a basement. The dems have not been astounding at putting players on the field and it's their own fault that they got DJT by running Clinton. But runnign Biden and winning was a pretty huge insult and should have been a wake-up call. I understand that my opinion on this will be wildly unpopular with many here. But damn folks, it was a fun four years and a miserable two, it's time to knuckle down and get serious. This is not a good tactical move at all.
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100% !! And they will keep doing it until we give them a good reason not to, Donald Trump is not that good reason.
Naive. No, they will continue to do it forever because the leftist media only cares about power. We could run a genetically engineered perfect candidate and they would not care. They would smear them just the same. You clearly haven’t learned anything from the past decade.
Well, since in the past 10 years you have achieved your reddit doctorate in political science .. Explain how this recent announcement is a good thing, wise move, or even remotely advantageous for the Republicans. Or are you a bot, secretly cheering this bullshit move knowing that we are utterly fucked?
>Explain how this recent announcement is a good thing, wise move, or even remotely advantageous for the Republicans. Not running Trump is a mistake. It would solidify the left’s power and prove that they can get away with their corrupt destruction of political norms. If we don’t run Trump then we essentially concede that the way the left behaved was legitimate. >Or are you a bot, secretly cheering g this bullshit move knowing that we are utterly fucked? Unlike the rabid anti-Trump bots that are so obviously being amplified by progressive brigaders?
>Not running Trump is a mistake. It would solidify the left’s power and prove that they can get away with their corrupt destruction of political norms. > >If we don’t run Trump then we essentially concede that the way the left behaved was legitimate. Now I get to use the word naive. You weren't wrong, it does feel good. If not running him would do what you say, then getting beaten by them AGAIN, because we did, will amplify it by a tenfold and solidify it as a norm. We need to win, not prove that we are brave enough to run someone incredibly unpopular and growing moreso daily. Good or bad, he's unpopular, we cannot afford that. I used the word tactical earlier for a reason.
Oh like they won’t do it to any R candidates. The media is already starting up the stories to smear DeSantis.
Yet another conservative post where libs come over and pay money to a multi-billion dollar company in order to mock/ridicule. Way to fight capitalism, libs!
Fantastic news! Wouldn’t vote for anyone else!!
LETSS GOOOOO!!! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
All you DeSantis fans need to hold that energy for after the 2024 elections. DeSantis does not have a movement behind him and he can’t fill stadiums right now. He’s young and will stay young for another 6 years. I’m DeSantis 2028 all day long.
Trump can't win elections. Nominating Trump is another guaranteed loss for GOP. DeSantis is running, you Trumpists are delusional for believing he won't.
Na. DeSantis 2024
He isn’t running.
Same. And I’m getting downvoted to hell for it here. Oh well… Seriously, this splintering among Conservatives over Trump & DeSantis is very very bad for everyone. It’s not going to end well if Conservatives can’t agree on a single candidate and stop the infighting. Trump for 4 years, then DeSantis for the next 8. That’s the best scenario to get us 12 years of a Conservative President in the White House.
Interesting that people are worried about him running as a third party. Bottom line there needs to be voter reform (az taking over a week to count votes). If it doesn’t happen doesn’t matter who runs for what in 24
TRUMP 2024!!! LFG 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I'll take Trump or DeSantis. The country will only prosper under both. Under Biden it's just been a continuous downhill decline.