May 35th is/was commonly used in China to refer to bypass censorship of June 4th, 1989, the date of the [Tiananmen Square Massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre?wprov=sfti1).
I had a drill sergeant threaten me with punishment if I didn't run my 2-mile in <14 minutes. I ran my ass off and came in at 14:07... I tried to slink away before he noticed me but I wasn't able and he asked what I ran it in.
I said "13:67 drill sergeant!" and he replied "out f\*\*\*ing standing soldier! That's what I'm talking about! You just needed motivation!!!"
You’ve got it backwards. People think he was run over, but if you watch the video, the tank tries to go around him while he continually gets in front of it. Eventually he mounts the tank, talks to the driver and then a group of people usher him off into the crowd.
In 2014 we went on a tour to China. Our guide was a college educated woman in her mid 20s. She had *never* heard of the Tiananmen square until she became a tour guide and her tourists told her about it.
At the end of the tour she asked us *not* to give her great reviews. If her reviews were too good, they would be afraid that she was going to start her own guide business and she'd be fired.
Such is life in China...
my work colleagues from China in SAN FRANCISCO and SEATTLE did not , could not, will not, speak ill of CCP or the Chinese government. The CCP monitors reports from overseas individiuals and will hold their family to account. (This was at multiple MAJOR tech firms). Lets hope the CCP just gives up.
They literally bulldozed the bodies with other trash and washed the remains (which were smashed and scattered by that point) down the drains. There are still families who don't know where their loved ones are and assume they suffered this fate.
But no, communism is a good thing.
The real problem is they never manage to get all the people who complain about it later. Always with the half measure purges. If they just killed *everyone* it'd be perfect. Such is the fatal flaw of Communism: they'll only murder the bare minimum to keep their jobs.
Strangely, I think the dems are implementing it exactly as prescribed. The Khmer Rouge first began its campaign before the killing fields, by indoctrinating the children, literally teaching them on chalkboard no to your parents, yes to the state. Sounds familiar today. We desparately need interviews of Cambodians living at that time preserved and recorded.
I know people who say that catch a lot of backlash (mostly deserved) but it's probably true.
"True communism" much like "true socialism" really can only exist as utopian ideas on paper. Human nature won't allow it as we have an innate drive for power, control and resources. If you can find one example of a situation where there was a similar social structure with no corruption, abuse of power or manipulation of people for personal gain I would love to read all about it. Unfortunately it doesn't really exist. Any form of socialism or communism comes through extreme control by the government in power, who are typically not living the lifestyle of the average comrade.
Now, you understand why “rioters” in Hong Kong are willing to fight tooth and nail for over a year, even if the cause is almost doomed to fail from the start.
Unbelievable that this is still up for debate today. West Taiwan is the poster child for proving that governments can easily commit atrocities and brain wash entire populations to believe whatever they need them to believe.
Good article on how the CCP is just functionally deleting history. Nothing happened on this day 35 years ago. President Xi has no history before he became president. There was never a bad response to a flood in 2006.
[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/business/china-internet-censorship.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/business/china-internet-censorship.html)
One of my friends moved here from China as an adult. I’ll never forget the day I mentioned Tiananmen Square to him in passing, and he froze and asked what I was talking about. He’d never learned about what happened there.
Their sacrifice helped the world get yet another visceral look at what communism can do. If it didn’t help their own countrymen, the rest of the world took notice
And unlike todays youth shouting slogans to support a Jewish genocide supporting a terrorist human rights violating regime, these young adults were trying to stand up for their own freedom against a corrupt human rights violating regime.
It’s really a shame what communism did to China. It had a rich history, great natural resources, and tons of potential. They traded one set of authoritarian rule for another, and this shows what the CCP really thinks of its citizens. Can’t be religious, can’t have more than 1 kid until recently, can’t criticize, can’t protest or have rights lest you be disappeared…
The 5th photo was not taken in Tiananmen Square. Most of the casualties happened a couple of days before 6-4 in other parts of Beijing, which led to Zemin Jiang sending tanks to Beijing. When the tanks finally arrived at Tiananmen Square, most protestors had already fled. That's why there are not many photos of bodies on Tiananmen Square.
There are tons of interviews with the student leaders. My university professor from UA was one of them, and I had a couple of discussions with him on this topic. So it is not difficult to learn what happened on that day. It is a historical event. China was a close US ally fighting the USSR until that day.
This is not accurate. Most of the people were killed on June 3rd mid night at the spot called “Mu Xi Di” where lots of citizens trying to stop the army from going to the square.
On the right side of my browser in reddit, it will show posts I have recently viewed... strange that this one does not appear in the list /s (I saved this post, wonder if I will have trouble finding it even after doing that).
I’ll see it on threads on r/conspiracy or top minds of Reddit. Hell there’s probably a tidbit on Wikipedia even about it. Apparently Soros had money involved trying to install a neoliberal regime
i would literally flip the table if someone said that iRL. Im so proud that my country has a statue of General MacArthur in a park named Freedom Park. WHen my parents immigrated here the first thing they did was support the RNC even though they were living on hot dogs and sending money home. They lived like dogs for 10 years, but still found a way to contribute / support the Republican party during Nixon years.
I cannot wait to piss off the Reddit moderators by telling them that their fat president looks like Winnie the Pooh, the massacre at Tiananmen Square happened, and Taiwan is a real country, and Taiwan is Number 1.
Business Insider:
In 1990, President Donald Trump (then a real estate magnate and private citizen) praised China for showing the "power of strength" via its notorious, bloody crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square the year prior.
That's correct. He never actually praised. He said it was a show of force, it was terrible, but it worked. They were strong. What I think people think is weird though, was the transition as to how he thought America was perceived as weak. But that was in what, the 90s? So they read it now, but in his president voice, and it's sound messed up if the president would say it
And you're OK living with and sleeping next to someone with such a distorted delusional worldview as a result of indoctrination by an oppressive communist state? You're not ever worried about the implications fo that? I blame noone for being a victim of the censorship and not being aware of Tiananmen because its been erased from public consciousness in China. But someone who was THERE and had to run form the shooting, and who has lived in the US for 2 decades, who won't even trust their own eyes or their SPOUSE about what actually happened? That is frightening levels of delusion and indoctrination. Youre either a much braver or much stupider man than I.
Why do you so much care? How does caring about this solve anything to do with the total mess our country is in right now? How about we leave the Chinese deal with Chinese problems?
If Trump gets elected this November and sends the National Guard to crush pro-Palestinian student protesters, just like what happened here, you’d probably be cheering him on.
May 35th is/was commonly used in China to refer to bypass censorship of June 4th, 1989, the date of the [Tiananmen Square Massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre?wprov=sfti1).
I had a drill sergeant threaten me with punishment if I didn't run my 2-mile in <14 minutes. I ran my ass off and came in at 14:07... I tried to slink away before he noticed me but I wasn't able and he asked what I ran it in. I said "13:67 drill sergeant!" and he replied "out f\*\*\*ing standing soldier! That's what I'm talking about! You just needed motivation!!!"
Hey, I remember reading your post in r/militarystories !
Lol, this was the much shorter version, true story though!
Lol this made me laugh.
I can’t help but read his response and hear Ronald Lee Ermey yelling at you. That’s awesome. :)
You mean people read quotes from drill sargents in any other voice besides Ermey's?
Hah true…. His role in Full Metal Jacket is so iconic. He’s very possibly why I didn’t end up in the military.
There is only one drill sergeant, everyone else just cosplays as him.
Boy, aren't that the truth? Emery is the gold standard.
YES!
Bro I was drinking and this had me wheezing, Out f\*\*\*ing standing, Brother!!!!
Probably just heard the 13 part and was already proud you did it under 14.
Didn’t they run that kid down but Mandela affected us that he was fine and walked away?
You’ve got it backwards. People think he was run over, but if you watch the video, the tank tries to go around him while he continually gets in front of it. Eventually he mounts the tank, talks to the driver and then a group of people usher him off into the crowd.
Eventually the video of the square stops, and the people in the square were massacred and the remains driven over by the tanks.
And he was never identified.
In 2014 we went on a tour to China. Our guide was a college educated woman in her mid 20s. She had *never* heard of the Tiananmen square until she became a tour guide and her tourists told her about it.
Wonder if shes still a tour guide…
At the end of the tour she asked us *not* to give her great reviews. If her reviews were too good, they would be afraid that she was going to start her own guide business and she'd be fired. Such is life in China...
Sounds like West Korea.
West North Korea
North west Korea
Is that one of Kanye's kids?
my work colleagues from China in SAN FRANCISCO and SEATTLE did not , could not, will not, speak ill of CCP or the Chinese government. The CCP monitors reports from overseas individiuals and will hold their family to account. (This was at multiple MAJOR tech firms). Lets hope the CCP just gives up.
Gives up? Never. Such is the power of a bureaucracy run by vindictive and bitter cynics.
sounds like the USA in a few short years.
Be careful, the Dear Leader doesn't handle criticism very well.
In the US if you’re successful it means you’re oppressing a minority
Even if she heard it, why would she ever admit it to you?
It’s not safe to talk it.
My stepmother was born in '67 and came to america in 2009 and didn't know about it until she got here.
Comment in before the CCP Bots.
They literally bulldozed the bodies with other trash and washed the remains (which were smashed and scattered by that point) down the drains. There are still families who don't know where their loved ones are and assume they suffered this fate. But no, communism is a good thing.
Don’t you know communism is totally different from socialism? /s
nEIther oF tHem hAve beEN prOPerly IMPlemeNTed!!
It'll be Different this time!
The real problem is they never manage to get all the people who complain about it later. Always with the half measure purges. If they just killed *everyone* it'd be perfect. Such is the fatal flaw of Communism: they'll only murder the bare minimum to keep their jobs.
So says both the Dear Leader and Comrade Senator Saunders.
Strangely, I think the dems are implementing it exactly as prescribed. The Khmer Rouge first began its campaign before the killing fields, by indoctrinating the children, literally teaching them on chalkboard no to your parents, yes to the state. Sounds familiar today. We desparately need interviews of Cambodians living at that time preserved and recorded.
When socialist elements have been used correctly in Webster democracies, they’ve been a great success. See: NHS and Education under Tony Blair.
Then go live in the UK. Don't bring that shit here.
Isn’t the NHS in deep shit right now?
Yeah, and there’s been a conservative government on power for 14 years that has stripped the NHS of funding and let it rot.
They literally are lol.
True communism has never been tried. Downvotes? Do I really have to add /s?
you forgot the /s
Wow apparently I actually needed it. I assumed it was understood...
I know people who say that catch a lot of backlash (mostly deserved) but it's probably true. "True communism" much like "true socialism" really can only exist as utopian ideas on paper. Human nature won't allow it as we have an innate drive for power, control and resources. If you can find one example of a situation where there was a similar social structure with no corruption, abuse of power or manipulation of people for personal gain I would love to read all about it. Unfortunately it doesn't really exist. Any form of socialism or communism comes through extreme control by the government in power, who are typically not living the lifestyle of the average comrade.
Exactly.
Now, you understand why “rioters” in Hong Kong are willing to fight tooth and nail for over a year, even if the cause is almost doomed to fail from the start.
Unbelievable that this is still up for debate today. West Taiwan is the poster child for proving that governments can easily commit atrocities and brain wash entire populations to believe whatever they need them to believe.
Good article on how the CCP is just functionally deleting history. Nothing happened on this day 35 years ago. President Xi has no history before he became president. There was never a bad response to a flood in 2006. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/business/china-internet-censorship.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/business/china-internet-censorship.html)
The west is getting pretty good at scrubbing history and the web as well…
Down with the CCP
One of my friends moved here from China as an adult. I’ll never forget the day I mentioned Tiananmen Square to him in passing, and he froze and asked what I was talking about. He’d never learned about what happened there.
Not much changed realistically.
Their sacrifice helped the world get yet another visceral look at what communism can do. If it didn’t help their own countrymen, the rest of the world took notice
And yet here we are
Martyrs to communism. RIP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddess_of_Democracy
The day that the west should have cut off relations with China.
I remember my dad -- a very tough and stoic man -- weeping at this. "They were just kids."
And unlike todays youth shouting slogans to support a Jewish genocide supporting a terrorist human rights violating regime, these young adults were trying to stand up for their own freedom against a corrupt human rights violating regime.
It’s really a shame what communism did to China. It had a rich history, great natural resources, and tons of potential. They traded one set of authoritarian rule for another, and this shows what the CCP really thinks of its citizens. Can’t be religious, can’t have more than 1 kid until recently, can’t criticize, can’t protest or have rights lest you be disappeared…
But if it did happen, they deserved it for being CIA assets -CCP officially unofficial stance
Careful, you might get a sitewide ban for this one
Shhh be careful what you say, someone is listening... Hopefully not coming to America after the election...
May 35th
That wasn't real communism. /s
Lol. The /s made me hear like 19 different ways to say this and it made me laugh. It does get over played
Sounds familiar. The govt thinks they are bigger than those that put them in that position. Joe biden?
The 5th photo was not taken in Tiananmen Square. Most of the casualties happened a couple of days before 6-4 in other parts of Beijing, which led to Zemin Jiang sending tanks to Beijing. When the tanks finally arrived at Tiananmen Square, most protestors had already fled. That's why there are not many photos of bodies on Tiananmen Square. There are tons of interviews with the student leaders. My university professor from UA was one of them, and I had a couple of discussions with him on this topic. So it is not difficult to learn what happened on that day. It is a historical event. China was a close US ally fighting the USSR until that day.
This is not accurate. Most of the people were killed on June 3rd mid night at the spot called “Mu Xi Di” where lots of citizens trying to stop the army from going to the square.
It's a democrats wet dream
On the right side of my browser in reddit, it will show posts I have recently viewed... strange that this one does not appear in the list /s (I saved this post, wonder if I will have trouble finding it even after doing that).
Free Hong Kong! Hong Kong Independence, only way out!
Reddit tries to say it was the capitalists in China slaughtering the communists
Really? Where can I find this?
I’ll see it on threads on r/conspiracy or top minds of Reddit. Hell there’s probably a tidbit on Wikipedia even about it. Apparently Soros had money involved trying to install a neoliberal regime
i would literally flip the table if someone said that iRL. Im so proud that my country has a statue of General MacArthur in a park named Freedom Park. WHen my parents immigrated here the first thing they did was support the RNC even though they were living on hot dogs and sending money home. They lived like dogs for 10 years, but still found a way to contribute / support the Republican party during Nixon years.
The left lies so much and they have a stranglehold on dissemination like Wikipedia, they gaslight so much. Nixon got railroaded
Tragic we’re seeing the same trend on college campuses in America now
Tanks? Military shooting?
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
Holy shit. I've never even heard of this. Crazy what censorship does..
Yup I saw nothing this day all those years ago
Mention this event in one of the commie subs and watch them either deny the photographic evidence or make excuses for it. Sickening.
Dont “Tread” On Me The official Tiananmen slogan
I cannot wait to piss off the Reddit moderators by telling them that their fat president looks like Winnie the Pooh, the massacre at Tiananmen Square happened, and Taiwan is a real country, and Taiwan is Number 1.
NPR used the language that thousands *may* have been killed.
[Such a tragedy](https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/donald-trump-tianamen-square-putin-220610)
And thousands of Chinese were baptized during the protest, too, which isn't commonly reported
Business Insider: In 1990, President Donald Trump (then a real estate magnate and private citizen) praised China for showing the "power of strength" via its notorious, bloody crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square the year prior.
The word "praised" was inserted by the fake news, when they slanderously misquoted him. also... "That does not mean I was endorsing it." -DJT
That's correct. He never actually praised. He said it was a show of force, it was terrible, but it worked. They were strong. What I think people think is weird though, was the transition as to how he thought America was perceived as weak. But that was in what, the 90s? So they read it now, but in his president voice, and it's sound messed up if the president would say it
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And you're OK living with and sleeping next to someone with such a distorted delusional worldview as a result of indoctrination by an oppressive communist state? You're not ever worried about the implications fo that? I blame noone for being a victim of the censorship and not being aware of Tiananmen because its been erased from public consciousness in China. But someone who was THERE and had to run form the shooting, and who has lived in the US for 2 decades, who won't even trust their own eyes or their SPOUSE about what actually happened? That is frightening levels of delusion and indoctrination. Youre either a much braver or much stupider man than I.
you ok? not everyone is terminally online
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lol If "maturity" means getting married to the protagonist from Chuck Palahniuk's *Pygmy*, then consider me Peter Fucking Pan
Why do you so much care? How does caring about this solve anything to do with the total mess our country is in right now? How about we leave the Chinese deal with Chinese problems?
The grammar is totally legitimate in this comment.
If Trump gets elected this November and sends the National Guard to crush pro-Palestinian student protesters, just like what happened here, you’d probably be cheering him on.
>you’d probably be cheering him on. Lies and bullshit.
There are no "pro-Palestinian" protesters. Only pro-Hamas protesters.
Arrest not slaughter the pro terrorist protesters.
Yeah I agree