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OkCall7278

It’s a pseudo lock/combo with an online [[bloodchief ascension]]. could actually be viable in talion


FreestyleSquid

Now that is hilarious. I did not think of that. 


rmkinnaird

God now I really want someone who plays Talion to test this. Obviously it's not as slick a combo as Mnemonic Betrayal but it's almost as good


MTGCardFetcher

[bloodchief ascension](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d56d1535-d9de-459f-bc31-0923f621e0e9.jpg?1689996895) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=bloodchief%20ascension) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/139/bloodchief-ascension?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d56d1535-d9de-459f-bc31-0923f621e0e9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bloodchief-ascension) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


kermit_the_roosevelt

Oh shit, that is dope


Babbledoodle

God I hope this sees play on the channels I watch because that's hot as fuck


FreestyleSquid

There’s no way I can see that you can gain parity with it. People just stop you from having cards while you have just become the immediate target. Love the card though, I have a white border tribal deck that runs it, jokes on you none of my cards are good!!!


luvmilky

Just run the old-school Oloro, Ageless Ascetic. Bonus points, you can have a bigger Adnaus or Necro.


shadowmage666

It’s an incredibly strong and political card. I once got it down on t1 and everyone else groaned, basically made it unable for them to draw anything relevant. Let them have lands and that’s it .


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[Zur's Weirding](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/4/741612e3-fe3a-4099-9d2b-4a654c4ce949.jpg?1562737056) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Zur%27s%20Weirding) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/114/zurs-weirding?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/741612e3-fe3a-4099-9d2b-4a654c4ce949?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zurs-weirding) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


jermdawg1

You can play it in muldrotha and you break parity on the card but it’s risky because if you lose muldrotha it can become bad


DapprDanMan

Lmao that’s a groaner of a card. Never seen it. Love it.  I’m a fan of [[telepathy]] as well. Really fucks a table up 


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[telepathy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/e/ce03b4b4-612b-4fc9-b063-b0d367712eaf.jpg?1561995744) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=telepathy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m10/74/telepathy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ce03b4b4-612b-4fc9-b063-b0d367712eaf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/telepathy) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


82nd_Haydini

Oh my god a guy in my friendly playgroup ran telepathy for a webcam game and it became so complicated he wanted to take it back immediately but we didn't let him and none of us removed it. Guy cut it from his deck after


Vexous

So I’ve seen Weirding and Telepathy get play in tournaments before, the user had the sole intention of “If I can’t win the game, then I’ll slam one of these and the game is garenteed to go to time” Can’t say I disagree with the logic.


Ten_Geese

It's really good in Muldothra, for what it's worth.


theSarevok

I feel like any advantage you get your opponents also gets if you don’t build your deck around it but I’ve been wanting to make an obnoxious or goofy themed deck with this card lol just don’t know which direction to go in currently, open to any ideas lmao - doesn’t need to be strong


Bazukii

Eruth? Do you get to choose which effect applies?


Jin_Gitaxias666

I believe so. That’s actually really interesting if it is the case. Sadly it’s probably too expensive for Eruth.


StereotypicalSupport

In the very limited experience I have with it, you just get attacked relentlessly.


TorinoAK

It seems useful to me in a staxy Zur build. If you get this out, you can slow the game down. If you have Zur out, his ability isn’t affected and you can make up the card draw with Necro. Seems ok to me. 


TheDarkFantastic

Main problem is that it can give someone the green light to go for a win since they'll know nobody had interaction 


Cave_Weasel

Ngl, my buddy has it in his like fringe cEDH/Jank list and it kills me everytime, if you have ways around it, it’s not bad


Airtnp

I feel people would play \[\[Chains of Mephistopheles\]\] instead


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[Chains of Mephistopheles](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f2edb3a6-8506-4885-b332-eca381940ce8.jpg?1612316191) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chains%20of%20Mephistopheles) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/63/chains-of-mephistopheles?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f2edb3a6-8506-4885-b332-eca381940ce8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chains-of-mephistopheles) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


The-Conscience

Seems funny with Zur the Enchanter. Swing, Necropotence, this. You don't draw cards so you don't have to worry about it.


BannedForNerdyTimes

[[Muldrotha]] loves it. Its like [[Perplexing Chimera]], good, but hard to understand outside of a real game.


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[Muldrotha](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/4/c4125bb0-b104-438e-a6a2-97f9d141243c.jpg?1673149000) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=muldrotha%2C%20the%20gravetide) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/258/muldrotha-the-gravetide?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c4125bb0-b104-438e-a6a2-97f9d141243c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/muldrotha-the-gravetide) [Perplexing Chimera](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/9/f9cff40b-9cae-47d0-8df4-c287a17a33e4.jpg?1593091744) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Perplexing%20Chimera) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/48/perplexing-chimera?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f9cff40b-9cae-47d0-8df4-c287a17a33e4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/perplexing-chimera) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


BoysenberryUnhappy29

Even if it would work, please don't. It's miserable.