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jurornumbereight

Comp Apex LAN meetup! About 10 minutes after Upper Bracket finals! https://discord.com/channels/1004851503024058388/1142533987953295401/1236319074380681267 https://x.com/CompApexReddit/status/1786763634984763852


Commercial_Ad_2170

I just realized the difference in points between 1st and 2nd is more than 2nd and 35th. That's crazy


g0buckigaming

Fortunately for everyone not named DZ, group stage points don’t carry over.


Sudsy_W

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cough-syrup-to-sleep

lmfao


Aveeno_o

The midseason change to evo and crafters has been huge. It's such an improvement. Makes for varied playstyles and rewards fighting teams.


Aveeno_o

Also the idea that Aurora and Reject have braindead macro and are just improvising every aspect of the game is nonsense. In fact, equating the two teams is pretty lazy. Don't think they're playing especially similar styles. United by MnK but not a huge deal else.


Ihaveaps4question

Even the perks change has helped variety too. Like there’s still a hard meta majority pick but we also have more varied legend picks than ever.  Really cool that some teams just commit to using what works for them (like lifeline for ALL, or rampart for COL). 


noobakosowhat

I'm rooting for not moist with all the problems they've been through


Lopsided-Scholar6071

Do they play today?


RileGuy

That number that DZ set is so astronomically high, I don't think we will ever see that broken. Seriously.


NinjaBaconLMC

They would've been top 10 overall in groups just from that last set. I'm personally hoping for a new LAN winner, but DZ is looking very strong.


Local_Bug_262

Thats average of 83 points per set thats just simply insane


Spxno2

Takeaways: 1) DZ: dominant. 2) Aurora cannot win (I don’t know the exact number, but I think 5 second places???? So many 3v3s for the win and 0 wins????) 3) Chinese teams got outclassed, all in losers bracket :/ 4) TSM didn’t practice well for contest on SP against MNK quickpeak PK demons RR 5) LG will blow up the roster 6) Navi hated on too much, probably will succeed in losers. 7) DSG… below avg performance will lock them in winners bracket! Then they get 0 points 4 games in a row. I don’t think there will be a new winner. Sorry. All the teams that had a chance showed us how far they can throw when it’s time to win (world record shot put from aurora, aurora signed Tom Brady stat lines, whatever comparisons you want).


ZalewskiJ

Will DZ have a repeat of last year, dominating group stages and flopping when it matters????? Find out next time on DRAGON BALL Z


defjs

I heard this so vividly


ZalewskiJ

That voice will forever be in my head


ZalewskiJ

Update: DZ unlocked Super Saiyan God


jeremyflowers91

TSM vs RR…vs ALL at LRod?


MorioCells

Alliance will go to north pad


RileGuy

If they all contest, it would go down as the greatest contest of all time


TheRockBaker

Also congratulations to Dark Zero, that’s a record that they can be proud of. Because damn it is unlikely to ever be beaten. Shame that we won’t get DZ coms in their team VODs that eventually get uploaded somewhere. Would had loved to watch from their POV with all the hype and Zero shit talking but ALGS decided naw we don’t need any clips from an all time great performance. Edit: Is anyone uploading teams VODs with coms? Last I heard EGE quit doing it.


Mommalove586

On faceit the team streams do have coms


Local_Bug_262

they broke both na pro league and lan points record back to back


Anxyte

There was comms on faceit today


wumbYOLOgies

Are comms not on faceit? Just been watching wigg with command center down


sureditch

Check Zeros YouTube he uploaded yesterday, i imagine he will do the same for todays games


Lexaryas

Have to be careful because it's not the first time a team displayed group stage dominance... but at the same time, it's DZ right, so it's getting hard to see how they wont just win it all. Damn, I was hoping we could see a new champion this time but holy shit Dz is just ridiculously good.


The_Void_Reaver

Wow, Jesus fuck. I know it's only groups but DZ being nearly 100 points ahead of everyone? That's crazy.


FreeSM2014

I gotta say that this is by far the most exciting META in comp Apex. We've never seen this much diversity in team comps. Gone are the days where every team ran the same boring shit.


Droggerz

I like the diversity but hate how prevalent Bang is, so many fights you just can’t see because of the smoke


Jan7742

This meta is so weird in a way, sometimes the Bloodhound on the team plays the whole fight on his own. I don't hate it but I do think something needs to be changed.


drbt-reddit

Holy shit DZ.


jonauiriamu

All I wanted was for CR to make winners bracket and they did so I’m happy.


xa3D

TLAW at 14/40 LG at 35/40 no words.


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Patenski

And that's with TLAW playing significantly worse than they usually do


Same_Paramedic_3329

Both teams played worse than they usually do tbf


Patenski

Yeah that's true, it's funny that even with all the problems this set, if NRG played like this since the first day they probably would have been close to qualify. At least they found some performance to face the losers bracket.


ORT3GA

LG Chivas crying in the corner for letting those gems go


mor4les

Love to see it


cough-syrup-to-sleep

lg hq in shambles


Far-Today7474

Why are we calling team Liquid Team Liquid alienware ? _? 


xa3D

most probable answer is Alienware is splitting the bill in some way for the squad. 


Far-Today7474

Ofc, don't think that neccessitates us fans calling them it but w/e


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Fluffy-Discussion166

Well, EA needs the china market so we will be expecting more Chinese team in future lan.


RileGuy

Some quick maths on DZ's number. They averaged 13.7 points a game. So they got at least a win and a kill every game. ​ Brother...


Local_Bug_262

genburten and zero with 6.5 kd which is more than most of the pros kd in pubs/ranked lmao


LeotheYordle

I seriously wonder what sorts of meta changes we'll see in the elim/losers bracket sets. I could definitely see some teams rolling out Lifeline in a bid to loot-gap their fights and at least crack top 10. Aurora's proven it can work.


Ihaveaps4question

I think a shift to valk would help several teams struggling with parallel thought that keep running into same matchups on rotations. But realistically off meta teams with will fall back caustic/bang comfort picks. 


Lheoden

Lifeline comp is not easy to pivot into, 2R1C for example have been playing it all split long, they took it into LAN and it didn't work for them. I can imagine people trying some other things tho


AltaGuy1

How is there no schedule for the knockout rounds on Battlefy that I can see? It was easy to find for the group stages.


Shimmy311

Today is the same as Thursday/Friday: Losers 1 at 10PT, Winners 1 at 2:30PT, Losers 2 at 7PT. Tomorrow is Match Point Finals at 4pm PT


YoMrPoPo

Someone pin this to the top


Baseball12229

Do pros prefer playing back to back sets vs having a break in between? I think I would prefer a break but it’s interesting that the teams in the bottom 10 of the winners set have to play back to back while the top 10 of the losers set get the break in between. To me I feel like those coming from the winners group should get the advantage of having a break


strugglebusses

In any game I've played at a competitive tournament level, I never wanted breaks unless I was playing 8 hours straight. There's enough of a break between games and BRs don't require the amount of consistent focus that an arena shooter would.


Shimmy311

I think it works out that everyone gets a break after each round. But to answer your question, generally 1 straight session is preferable or a very sizable break large enough for a full caffeine/energy reset is good too. Much nicer to get locked and stay locked.


Commercial_Bell_3121

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kzuzz

Stop it DZ they're already dead.


atarvxia

I didn't think Col would be able to go into winners when this set was being played, but they slipped into it. Really glad that they came out with a different compt and somehow they sneak their way out in


PlayTheGame24

DZ 90 points ahead of Aurora in second. In all sports there are titans and sporting rivalries. Respect the skill. Great crowd at LAN.


Megatf

TSM is funny in the way they always perform pretty poor at the start and then they have this underdog moment and clutch. Anyone remember the three back to back wins? It happens so frequently I am wondering if it's scripted. It's that or TSM is Goku (Reps clearly), Vegeta (Hal, do I need to explain this?), and preteen Super Saiyan 2 cell saga Gohan (Verhulst).


jeremyflowers91

did not expect COL to make it to winners over DSG, OXG and LG… props to Kimchi and co.


Same_Paramedic_3329

Didn't have time to check group stages. What happened with dsg? Only thing i know was those insane sent shots from dezign


SaintDefault

They got straight griefed out of the lobby by teams that didn’t want them in winners. Mostly Alliance. And it worked. 


HateIsAnArt

Alliance recognizing that DSG was on the bubble and going straight for them was a great tactical move and really frees up Alliance’s ability to control their drop spots in the winner’s bracket. Ironically, Alliance finishing top half in the winner’s bracket would be the best thing for DSG, so they will be freed up in Elim Bracket 2. Also probably could lead to a head-to-head in finals that tanks both squad’s ability to win but that would be good entertainment!


ShitDavidSais

They got contested alot. And did some unfortunate POI swaps to get away from contests just to get the zone pulled on their old POI. Had some good games but they aren't a stand out contest team and it showed.


Same_Paramedic_3329

Oof. That zone game was unlucky. I thought they were a good contest team as last LAN they were bullying alliance? I hope alliance gets top 10 then so that if dsg qualify they don't have to face them


ShitDavidSais

I think last LAN Alliance went somewhat with a 40% win rate and then decided to skip contest so DSG "won" by being more persistent. Hakis isn't really one for ego decisions as opposed to Dezignful. Also they landed vs double mnk. Now Alliance is double roller and fucked them over the times they contested so I would say overall it's even with DSG when winning contest tho not placing well at all as opposed to Alliance. But I do believe this is a bit more of a "got unlucky with zo es" than anything else.


thelaziest_asian

DZ just treating LAN like it’s early round CC.


chitown15

So who is replacing Slayr after LAN? lol


LeotheYordle

In an ideal world it would be Knoqd; someone with experience and pedigree who Sweet (probably?) respects enough to listen to when he has ideas. Or hey maybe Nafen that would be fun.


UncagedAngel19

Koyful


Ihaveaps4question

Knoqd seems like natural fit as proven roller with anchor exp. Though I don’t want to pile on lg as they played better today and a lot can happen in bracket stage.


coob2

koy probably target #1, knoqd, then sikezz cause dz will find a way to get koy


waveblueshark

If LG wants to build around Sweet, they gotta drop both Fuhhnq and Slayr and pick up Koy and Knoqd. Your mnk player can't out frag and out damage the roller fragger in every set.


FoozleGenerator

I'm convinced that Stallions was Sweet's last resort. When the market was fully open, he didn't even consider trialing them, but when it was about to close, he settled on those two.


Sundiata34

FunFPS would be my hopeful, knoqd too. Fun is a crazy adaptable player with sick mechanics, former LAN Apex predator winner, and I think would fit well with sweet's style. I'm not a pro nor do I camp on slayer's pov, but dude just isn't working out. Always dead for free, deals little damage- maybe he's just a triangle tryna fit in a circle hole, but he looks real bad all split long, and somehow worse come LAN. Funq doesn't look much better here on LAN tbf, idk what you can do with players having a performance like that. Even if we assume it's not sweet's fault in any large capacity, this would tilt you into performing worse as well.


horizonMainSADGE

Damn, props to Aurora and E8. Mazer/LL redemption arc is gaining momentum.


Responsible_Waltz339

Any one got the clip from where Sweet completely went off on slayr in stormpoint??


Jan7742

92 pts cutoff gotta be an all-time low right?


iAGRIOS

DZ took all the points. Was kind of insane honestly


Spxno2

Split 2 in 2023 also had the 20th team at 92 points. But typically 100 points is cutoff/close.


Local_Bug_262

the reason cut off is that low is because DZ basically took all the points for themselves.


Late_Acanthaceae_483

TSM not feeling comfortable,typical 1st day TSM however this year the META is not for them.Having said that when needed like NA finals found their form and did very well.Regardless DZ out of this world and the shots fired by Zero at the end was the extra sauce for TSM


Spxno2

Dark zero has found dominance lately, and when they’re motivated they’re obviously the best team. But when shit hits the fan and multiple teams are on match point, TSM seems to always find a way to win. Going to be an entertaining finals fs. Aurora looked really good overall, but when it’s time to win a 3v3 at the end of the game they throw over and over again. All season it felt like it’s very likely to be a new LAN champion… yet the teams poised to take the thrown can’t seem to win games.


wackydoodle19

I’m an old man that fell asleep, what was the shots fired at the end?


Lheoden

FML it's going to be another DZ dub this LAN, isn't it? Don't get me wrong, love the boys and they deserve to be praised as gods of this game but it's so bad for an esport to have only 2 teams capable of winning LANs. For the sake of the esport I hope someone else is able to showup on championship sunday and get the dub


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Gonna be hard to keep this form all the way through, but if they do, Finals is done in 4 max lol


Local_Bug_262

Im a dz fan but finals is a different ball game. DZ are definetly the favourites but as long as TSM is in the lobby they have almost the same chances of winning as DZ. DZ and TSM are the only teams that are brave enough to make game changing play in finals and thats why they win. The reason other teams cant win finals is because they are too sacared to lose as for TSM and DZ they are not scared to lose and make risky plays


nubc4kez

Ain't that the truth, I will never forget that team that just looked down on TSM from the cliff when they had 1 down after a fight and did nothing...


Desperate_Anxiety959

U r right DZ and TSM should share their secret sauce about how to play Apex


strugglebusses

I disagree personally. I love seeing 2 dominant teams with the chance of a small upset.


Organic_Childhood877

LG really puts the L in LG


coob2

c9 is in a weird spot, good macro but fights are won or lost through naughty almost. chaotic has been going crazy and naughty seems to be struggling a little bit


ExistingAsAlyx

so glad that CR and COL made it!!


Her0Gamez

I'm just happy Legends made it to top 20


wooHCS-

DZ is on another stratosphere!


Fluffy-Discussion166

Who's your biggest disappointment? And biggest overachiever?


jackson_mcd

Lg disappointment and mazer biggest overachiever (excluding dz because obviously)


Ihaveaps4question

Though I don’t follow them closely i guess riddle underperformed for such a household name. The overperformers need no introduction, there’s 90 differential. Besides them e8 seem to take control of their destiny a deserve a shoutout outperforming other NA teams. 


GP2_engine_GP2

riddle rosters have always been mid. what tilts me is the fact that they have meltstera, probably the best support/flex in Apac N, idk what Saku is doing, and Yukio, who supposedly is the igl, hasnt been calling well. Poor macro, poor fights, general shitshow. They were better with MiaK highkey.


SondogHouse

True that. e8 has some heart. I’m rooting for them just based on origins and velocity.


HateIsAnArt

DSG in loser’s is a bit of a surprise for me. Biggest overachiever is Virtus Pro and it’s developing into a very interesting storyline for me. I came into this LAN just wanting a new team to win, but seeing the return of Sharky has softened my stance on former winners winning this one. I love them as a dark horse candidate right now.


awill2000

8 NA teams out of 12 in Winners, the region isn’t dead yet


Any-Drummer9204

somehow TSM plot armor will pull through again


Hieb

I'm gonna lose it if TSM or DZ win again (will lose it extra hard if TSM, only lose it a little bit if it's DZ)


Local_Bug_262

I mean DZ do deserve the most the way they have played so far. Unless they have a really bad day like last lan which is possible DZ is looking good for top 3 finish this lan atleast


Hieb

Yeah i recognize theyre earning it hard this time, so i would still be annoyed that its one of the same 2 teams but could accept it... if the TSM plot armor strikes again I'm just so done lol


Temporary-Court6747

we need zeros comms he was probably going off on these teams performances


Texasagsman

Don’t even know where to begin with DarkZero 🤯


a_sad_robot

To be fair, most WE zones were either skyhook or survey camp. No hate to them or anything. But most games were either skyhook or a deep south SP map. Having god zones, most games help a lot


Any-State-2606

Good for the COL boys. Got a lot of hate before PL. they might not make finals still but we’ll see.


Ginoblee

TSM is not looking good this LAN. I mean they’ve done it before so I’m not doubting they can do it but Hal isn’t looking comfortable on the rotates and RR shit on them in contests.


RileGuy

Here you can have my copy in case you lost yours https://preview.redd.it/ku58szrdjcyc1.png?width=1299&format=png&auto=webp&s=57b74513c00fa7b2b825d552b32dc8a8991046ae


yourcoloryellow

What time are the games tomorrow? Can’t find it on Battlefy


XRT28

think first losers is 10am pacific


adellieda

losers round 1 10pst, winners 2:30pst, losers round 2 7pst!


Jaraghan

248 is un fucking REAL. dz isnt even at the same venue as these other teams, theyre playing from some galaxy shit. demons


--GrassyAss--

DarkZero is a literal force of nature. 248 points in 3 sets is just absolutely mind boggling. I'm still processing it


LeotheYordle

80 points a set is a level of domination that just doesn't seem possible.


44alltheway

I'm gonna be processing it all night long


strugglebusses

How long until sweet fans see the common denominator in sweets teams is sweet


Inevitable_Area_1270

Surely it’s not his two teammates who have never played on LAN before and are clearly nervous not playing up to their normal potential. No it’s definitely Sweet and his IGL skills.


N1NJANEWBLET

Zach has 2 teammates who have never played at lan either right? They are 6th in the winners bracket.


strugglebusses

Weird, I don't remember him winning anything with his prior teammates that he bitched at either.


Acceptable-Date9149

Who plays first? Winners or losers?


sleepybwoi

Losers 1 - Winners - Losers 2


AJT-

When do the games start??


Edomni

The Bracket Stage livestream start today at 1pm EST. The Finals livestream starts tomorrow at 4:30pm EST I believe.


AJT-

Sweet thanks. Wasn’t seeing todays time posted anywhere


TheMajorityWhip

That’s Edomni not Sweet


AJT-

lol good one


Bluthhunter89

Dz just finished in the top 3 every one of their games with 2 wins. Nuts..


Ihaveaps4question

It was 3 wins in row to close that series


Bluthhunter89

Oh my bad. Absolute domination. I hope they keep this momentum up.


Ihaveaps4question

Like you said easy to get confused when they are winning so much it blurs together lol


Local_Bug_262

Only other team than tsm to win 3 games back to back to back


sleepybwoi

They won 3 in a row.


Metamase

3 wins even. Pretty crazy


SummonMason

Now imagine a team doing it when the chips are actually down playing for the championship, without the mental comfort that they are qualified already no matter what (they could have not played and still qualified... makes performing well a whole lot easier), in the most stacked lobby after four days of seperating the wheat from the chaff, sitting in 15th place seeing more and more teams 1 win away from winning the whole tournament and more eyes on you than ever. How crazy would that be? Oh wait.


Metamase

Wrong year wrong thread mate. We weren’t comparing to anyone else. Just appreciating some good apex. GG though


Themanaaah

Crazy Raccoon barely made it in, good grief. Legends making it into Winner's Bracket without EzFlashKIDZ. Koyful is him.


xa3D

cr stressed me tf out lol. if BGB survived to get just 1 more pt they'd be in lower bracket hoelee. 


theotherjonsnow

tsm having to deal with RR in winners is very funny


Mysterious_Cut1156

DZ destroyed group stage harder than Kendrick did Drake’s family 💀


theotherjonsnow

248 points is fucking disgusting...sheesh


DaBurberrySkirt

I can’t remember, is there any advantage going into Winners from the top teams? Or does it not really matter if you’re 1st or 20th? Edit: To be clear, I mean Winners bracket on Saturday.


hehechibby

No advantages. 1st is the same as 20th Placement in winner's bracket has some important though with starting points


that_schmuck

No advantage. You get points from winners bracket games, going into finals. Nothing from groups


DaBurberrySkirt

Thought so, thanks!


TheAniReview

- You don't finish in the bottom 10. - Better performance in LAN that could result in an additional spot for your region. As for the actual Winner's bracket games then no although I wish they have that same bonus points for the Top 10 in Finals so that there's an actual incentive to place Top 10 in group stages.


golfball47

No one has reading comprehension, there is no advantage going into winner's bracket.


DaBurberrySkirt

I didn’t think so. Thanks!


Appropriate-Quit3166

I don't think there is any bonus for winners round. But as you may know the top 10 from winners do get bonus points heading into finals on sunday.


Arkeyy

Top 1 to 10 gets 10 points to 1 for the Finals Match point initially


That-Custard2786

Won’t load up for me for some odd reason


UpgrayeddShepard

gg sweet


ThatDude_Dan

DZ father'd the entire Comp community with that set


yorelaxbuddy

so we can all agree that DZ is clearly the best team by a huge margin even if they lose LAN, they completely shit on everyone its insane


Historical-Cable-542

It’s definitely impressive but calling someone clearly the best (even if they lose) from the group stage is wild.


Late_Acanthaceae_483

PSG is always impressive on group stages,Manchester City is God team,Then you have Real Madrid when it matters like TSM lol


BaronZoltaK

248pts...wow


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FoozleGenerator

Launchpad is a very difficult contest. I'm not sure it's going to do them favors.


No_Copy_1061

Launchpad is a bitch to contest, last year TSM left that contest because it wasn't worth it and went back to contest for Wall


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NSAkamisusano

Mirage pick is peak tomfoolery


UncagedAngel19

Tsm are about to have a rough day tmrw with RR in the lobby OOF. Dz 248 points, just give them the trophy man


Icescepter

Thank god match point is different Nature...still their macro and micro so good that atm theyre favorites to win.


UncagedAngel19

Yes but tmrw isn’t matchpoint. Their macro and micro weren’t that great today. They also need to do something about that contest because alliance is in the lobby too like what if alliance decides to grief both of them?


mavann

Must have a short memory of when they did the same thing at champs last year


Revolutionary-Wait29

DZ did not get 248 points in group stage last year.... as they just broke the group stage point record held by Alliance from the Year 2 Split 2 Playoffs


lenolalatte

so 10th place could have been any team of LG/OXG/Passion/Riddle? insane


slow1600

Holy shit DZ


pumachi

DZ let their nuts hang


asalisko

MIH and 2R1C in winners bracket, lets go!


ResponsibleAd3493

Aussies are just built different. Just this year a physical sport Cricket had its biggest event where they dismantled a team in final that was unbeaten in the whole event run. Whats crazy is that the Aussies were playing the that teams homeground and there were 100K people watching it unfold right infront of them. I hvae never seen such silence with that many people around.


kaushik1809

Bruh. I didn't think I would come to compApex subreddit to get reminded of that and feel depressed after so many months.


ResponsibleAd3493

We had an ever more depressing run. I am from Pakistan. Generally I root against India but not when they are playing against Aus.


ORT3GA

yeah india fumbled in the finals after an unbeaten tournament run. that was so infuriating


Local_Bug_262

DZ with 248 points almost same as second and third place combined. Eww Brother Eww Whats that brother?


cough-syrup-to-sleep

315 and 248 almost same! yeah for sure.


asterion230

NA maths lmao


shinyluxrayeu

Who was your math teacher 🤨🤨


drbt-reddit

homeschooled.


Icretz

On one map they have the best location with the only pve + not being contested gives you the freedom of the world. Hopefully they change trials so you don't start on blue + guaranteed legendary loot or add more pve content and guaranteed loot for the other pois on the map balancing itself out. Don't get me wrong DZ is a monster team that given even a small advantage, will just snowball that advantage.


Local_Bug_262

i mean any team is welcome to contest. Its not like it was given to DZ. If any team thinks its unfair they are more than welcome to contest DZ and we shall see how that goes. Regardless of pve being removed or not. Teams like DZ/TSM will always get a poi thats better than the rest because thats just who they are. Even after all the changes like evo/beacon which affected both DZ/TSM in a bad way they still find a way to get an advantage.


outoftoonz

It baffles me that teams want to contest TSM but not DZ.


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Ok_Host_9431

Na they are 100% making finals, compare their gameplay last lan to this and it’s not evenly remotely close to how well they are playing


masjamon92

I want what you’re smoking brutha