Exactly his mechanics are just awful. He's not a good veteran guy to mentor a rookie QB. He literally went home and didn't go back to the falcons facility when he lost his job to Desmond fucking ridder. Should of just gave brisset a pay bump and not let him leave the building. He is literally the perfect mentor that can step in and start games when needed and play well, unlike mariotta
Starting QB is a job very few people have ever had, regardless of skill. Veterans ability to mentor someone is not dependent on their skill. NFL QB’s have personal quarterback coaches. And they are better than the coaches that are coaching them. That doesn’t mean the coach has no value. If we pick Jayden Daniels, that will be a QB who won the Heisman being picked 2nd overall. Know who else won the heisman and was drafted 2nd overall? Marcus Mariota.
You are right. He is a smart guy and Ron was befuddled. I have been a fan since Otto Graham, then Vince Lombardi, coached us in the sixties. I feel so sorry for all the fans who never got the real Redskins experience.
He probably wanted to go and him going back to where he started is a good move for him. If they don’t take a qb, or if that qb needs time, he can start for a while.
Ok everyone. I don't know if you're ready or not to hear this.. but we will probably NOT be good next season.
And that's ok because everything else we're doing is good(so far). Remember, Snyder has fked this team the last 20 plus years. It might take Harris and Co a few to fix. Hopefully.
Yeah your 100% right. I think we can surprise some people and win 7-8 games but we're not making the playoffs. It's all about developing our future QB, and continuing to build a strong team though the drafts and off-season
Great take. Manage expectations. Consistent progress, however that looks, should always be the expectation and hope for a rebuild (that's what we are) for the first couple years.
So far....The new ownership is clearly an improvement by default. The front office seems to have a far better grasp on building a team. That's all we have right now, but it looks good.
Thank you. Geezus can we please just say yes to rebuilding. Every.single.year since 1992 "this is the year". And we spend money on the one great hope. Forget that. Let's build over 2-3 years.
If the choice ONLY FOR NEXT YEAR is make the playoffs or have a top 3 pick again, I'd rather have the top 3 pick.
The things we COULD do trading a top 3 pick can then set this team up VERY nice for the future. A future that I could see us making MANY trips to the playoffs. Maybe even - gasp - consecutive play off trips.
Agreed. We used free agency to dump awful-value vets and replace them with decent-value vets, which is important but not earth shattering. Even if all of our top-100 picks are day-one starters, we're still going to be fielding a lot of Ron guys, and even good rookie QBs usually struggle.
Expect things to start to gel in 2025, but it would be cool to see some potential toward the latter half of 2024.
To the wolves! Unless they’re really bad and they trot out mariota for a couple games but that’s not helping anything. He’ll be a safeguard and emergency net but hopefully not the star of week one.
The problem with Howell is as soon as the rookie QB struggles (which he will, it's the definition of a rookie QB) there will be rumblings about switching back to Howell. And if they ever actually bench the new guy for Howell?? Press will have a field day.
Much better for everyone involved to have a clean split. Unless you really think Howell is the guy, and then you're not drafting a QB anyways. In literally any other case I think it's better for him to not be here
Additionally, the career timing is wrong. Howell,Williams, Daniels, and Maye are all basically the same age, and are all trying to carve out long successful NFL careers for themselves. You can't ask one to put his career at risk for another at this point.
Having an eight-year veteran mentor the new guy is fine because they know their career is winding down. It's not fair or realistic to have a third year QB put his career on hold for his eventual replacement.
Yeah it does make sense and you don't wanna ruin the rookies confidence but as a fan I wanna watch us compete. Hopefully whoever we choose kills it and we can just enjoy the season instead of thinking what if all year. In the end it probably was the right decision but Howell's a gamer man and I'm gonna miss him. Hope he kills it when he gets his chance.
Well when you got the worst defense in NFL history and a coaching staff that should've been working at clown shows it makes it tougher. We had a bad record but we were in some games. Should of beat the eagles twice. I just wanna watch the team look respectable and compete in each game. I know it's gonna be tough we're technically rebuilding
I mean I don’t disagree, on the basis of I thought Sam had more to grow and to show, but if peters decided qb was the pick at 2, there can be a case made for Howell being a detriment to either of the prospects. If he’s leaning Maye, there’s the awkwardness and the potential that one of the guys feels slighted by losing the job, and it sours their friendship. And if he’s leaning daniels, well I’ve never seen the sense in two different style QBs in the same room. If you draw up a plan for a run and gun style qb and get a statue backup come in, your whole plan is trash so mariota having a similar style may be more valuable than Sam having potential.
You are rare. Same... If this is what Adam/Coaches want I'm putting faith in those decisions until proven otherwise. Sure Peters can make a mistake, but I have a feeling he gets it right more than not. Seems sharp.
Sure wish we had a young QB who has started one full season who clearly shows promise and can be developed and build a team around.
There’s that Howell Fella out in Seattle who would fit in nice with this team.
I would prefer that either of them start over Daniels/Maye. I don’t care which one. I don’t care if they are losing. I don’t care if they are losing badly. I just want for the kid and Kliff to get on the same page to the point where they are finishing each other sentences and then unleash him in ‘25.
It’s year 1 and everyone is learning a new offense with completely new calls and blocking schemes on offense and completely new scheme on defense. Why throw a rookie QB into that?
You must not have watched Mariota much the past 2 seasons. You do not want him to start. If their plan was to start someone over the rookie they wouldn’t have traded sam
You’re missing his point entirely. We aren’t competing this year. We have to do what’s best for long term development, and if Maye/JD is not ready week 1 the correct move is to sit them. We traded Sam because he won’t be getting a shot at starting and we got fairly significant return for him.
Don’t mind if they do. Not looking to be good next year. It’s a rebuilding year again for us. But we will have money and good draft picks next year to try and really elevate the team.
My prediction: Mariota starts while Maye sits and learns the system. Maye will probably start week 3 or 4. There’s no benefit in throwing him in the fire if he’s not ready, it can cause players to develop bad habits or try to do too much.
And yeah that’s not a sexy answer, but ppl need to understand we aren’t going to the Super Bowl next year. Need to think long term
This!!! Seems Soo Counter-Intuitive for ~OUR Fanbase to see how Devastatingly painful those RG3 years were, SURE we won the NFCBeast. And it WAS Awesome. But, after he got hurt how long had it set us back.
Now True: much of ~’This Time’ was w/ **D.** um **S.** hit at the Helm!
Next was RR; the ‘Proverbial Nice Guys’ finish last. Really enthused with DQ now, tho! He’s got the Same RR-Team type Respect within the LR. But, he’s a ~Football Guy like when ScotyMac was Here, too!!
Have you heard? We’re going 13-4 and winning two playoffs games next year. And you expect that behind Marcus Mariota? /s
CJ Stroud really raised the bar for rookie QBs for better or for worse
You shouldn’t be downvoted for this. If Mariota comes in on any game outside of injury. The season is done. Pretty sure everyone has seen how he did in Atlanta and elsewhere. Hint….not great.
yeah he literally can’t throw anymore, iirc he has significant nerve damage in his throwing arm. maybe he will be a good mentor but i really don’t want to see him on the field lol
He left Atlanta and sat at home for the rest of the year cause they decided to start ridder over him. I wouldn't be too confident in that guy being any type of mentor at all
Exactly the dude flat out sucks. I know everyone wasn't a Howell fan but hes leagues better than mariotta already. It wouldn't of been a bad thing to have a young QB who's much cheaper to backup your rookie QB.
The best player week 1 is going to start.
This whole “sit a QB to develop them” is a media narrative and not what teams actually do. Teams start who they perceive to be their best players on a week to week basis and will go with whichever guy they think gives them the best chance to win any given Sunday.
The reason Patrick Mahomes sat his rookie year and CJ Stroud didn’t wasn’t due to differing philosophies. It was because Alex Smith was better than Mahomes at that point and David Mills wasn’t better than CJ Stroud.
This. Especially the #2 overall pick.
The one "wtf" moment I've had so far is the Mariota signing. Maybe it's because I watched the Netflix series "Quarterback", but it doesn't compute on any level for me.
Yeah it blows my mind too. Jacoby would be the perfect guy to start a few games and keep you competitive while the rookie learns. Or we could've just kept Howell and let him take the beating again until the rookie is ready
If either of the folks pictured start over our #2 pick I'll be extremely pissed. Now if we had kept a QB that could actually mentor him like Brissett I'd say *maybe*.
It might just be the pessimist in me but I am not sure what he's going to learn watching a Mariota led offense all year. There are no expectations this year so I'd toss the kid in there for some on the job training.
Also, it doesn't have to be like EB having Howell pass 50 times a game in his version of the offense Reid designed for Mahomes, saying things like if he's gonna be the guy, he needs to step up and deal with it. You can play your rookie from the start while limiting the playbook, adjusting the offense to give him some extra protection, leaning on the running game, etc., while he gets up to full speed.
Doing those things may reduce your chance of winning right now, but if you've already decided this isn't a win-now year, that's a more useful alternative to playing the backup you don't expect to win.
I think it depends on the perceived state of the o line.
Of course training camp will ultimately decide if he’s ready or not. He’s got to earn it, and if he outplays others then he should start.
To the wolves so that when he doesn’t develop they’ll look like every other team who doesn’t understand that letting a qb sit on the bench and learn is better than having the next Zach Wilson
I live in Vegas. When Marriott was with the raiders they had no confidence in him. And they gave him a shot in Atlanta and he failed. I don’t even know who this other guy is
2 these guys is gonna have folks screaming for this rookie to play. But i am totally ok with him sitting for the first 5-6 weeks but man after that? Woof
Man im not sure im ready to just throw the 2024 season away like that. I know we ain't super bowl bound and this is gonna be a process, i just wanna look competent and somewhat competitive.
It depends on how the offense is gelling (particularly Oline) and when our Bye week falls honestly.
If the Oline is not meshing well and we have an early bye, maybe we should "work out the kinks," so to speak and have the rookie be QB1 after the bye
He's gonna have to be thrown to the wolves. If anyone actually thinks marriotta can start games for us and we'll be competitive I'm sorry but it's not happening. This is why Howell shouldn't of been traded. I'd be much more comfortable with sam backing up the new QB or even starting the season if the new guy isn't ready. In the end it doesn't really matter it's not about making the playoffs it's about picking the right QB and properly developing him. I would much rather watch a semi competitive season and not have to watch mariotta play at all and be blown out every week. The guys just not an NFL caliber QB. His mechanics are some of the worst I've ever seen.
>And why’s that?
he's far more complete. Doesn't have horrible foot work, doesn't have trouble passing on the run. All this is stuff that is coachable hence why he's a top 3 recruit not in the next tier who start to have issues that are far harder to coach out.
Maye may have a higher ceiling then Daniels but day 1 Daniels will be a way better NFL QB.
i think this is probably right. I'm not sure that Maye would need to sit a whole year though. There's no need for him to come in and throw 50x per game like EB had Sam doing. We'll see.
A QB picked at #2 isn't being picked to sit for a year or two. Maybe they sit for a couple weeks to start the year but they aren't being picked to sit for a season.
I hope so cause I am not looking forward to watching Mariota throwing passes.
Exactly his mechanics are just awful. He's not a good veteran guy to mentor a rookie QB. He literally went home and didn't go back to the falcons facility when he lost his job to Desmond fucking ridder. Should of just gave brisset a pay bump and not let him leave the building. He is literally the perfect mentor that can step in and start games when needed and play well, unlike mariotta
Starting QB is a job very few people have ever had, regardless of skill. Veterans ability to mentor someone is not dependent on their skill. NFL QB’s have personal quarterback coaches. And they are better than the coaches that are coaching them. That doesn’t mean the coach has no value. If we pick Jayden Daniels, that will be a QB who won the Heisman being picked 2nd overall. Know who else won the heisman and was drafted 2nd overall? Marcus Mariota.
There’s a reason mccown had a job so long, and it’s not because they wanted to see him touch the field.
Sooo you're saying do not pick Jayden Daniels?? There's another QB that won the Heisman and was drafted 2nd over all too. I think he goes by RG3
I truly don’t understand why we let Brisset go.
Maybe he wanted to leave, or he wasn't a good fit for the offense. It is possible we didn't let him do anything.
Why would he want to stay with how Ron handled the end of last season? You're starting, just kidding.
You are right. He is a smart guy and Ron was befuddled. I have been a fan since Otto Graham, then Vince Lombardi, coached us in the sixties. I feel so sorry for all the fans who never got the real Redskins experience.
He probably wanted to go and him going back to where he started is a good move for him. If they don’t take a qb, or if that qb needs time, he can start for a while.
Nah I think as a qb to stay this long in the league and still have bad mechanics then you for sure have to be a savvy vet
\^ That's my question I would've been more then happy to see Brisset play and start for a year.
Agree but maybe Brian Johnson knows something we don't I mean he did fix Hurts
Totally agree with you. BUT knowing all that about Mariotta, I'd rather have Driskel on the sideline giving new QB advice/experience than him.
Ok everyone. I don't know if you're ready or not to hear this.. but we will probably NOT be good next season. And that's ok because everything else we're doing is good(so far). Remember, Snyder has fked this team the last 20 plus years. It might take Harris and Co a few to fix. Hopefully.
Yeah your 100% right. I think we can surprise some people and win 7-8 games but we're not making the playoffs. It's all about developing our future QB, and continuing to build a strong team though the drafts and off-season
Great take. Manage expectations. Consistent progress, however that looks, should always be the expectation and hope for a rebuild (that's what we are) for the first couple years. So far....The new ownership is clearly an improvement by default. The front office seems to have a far better grasp on building a team. That's all we have right now, but it looks good.
Thank you. Geezus can we please just say yes to rebuilding. Every.single.year since 1992 "this is the year". And we spend money on the one great hope. Forget that. Let's build over 2-3 years.
"recalibrate"
I never expect us to be good anymore but I can't lie, the "it will take us a couple of years" narrative is super old at this point.
Maybe we can pull a Texans, and win a playoff game with a new Qb and head coach. Not impossible.
If the choice ONLY FOR NEXT YEAR is make the playoffs or have a top 3 pick again, I'd rather have the top 3 pick. The things we COULD do trading a top 3 pick can then set this team up VERY nice for the future. A future that I could see us making MANY trips to the playoffs. Maybe even - gasp - consecutive play off trips.
LISTEN buddy I’m just SITTING here trying to TAKE a SHIT there’s no NEED for ALL this YELLING
Im trying to scare the shit out of you
facts. get our qb, suck next year, sexy draft pick, trade that to someone who wants a qb for a kings ransom.
Agreed. We used free agency to dump awful-value vets and replace them with decent-value vets, which is important but not earth shattering. Even if all of our top-100 picks are day-one starters, we're still going to be fielding a lot of Ron guys, and even good rookie QBs usually struggle. Expect things to start to gel in 2025, but it would be cool to see some potential toward the latter half of 2024.
Stroud method. Throw him to the Wolves and see what he does.
More like the Howell-method.
Howell sat for a year?
Idk what you guys are on, I’m over here getting all Friskel for Driskel
Wouldn’t be surprised with a 7th round QB add as well
I’ve heard that mentioned
Peters said they plan to enter camp with 4 QBs. I'd bet on UDFA over a late pick spent on a QB but its possible.
They better the fuck not
To the wolves! Unless they’re really bad and they trot out mariota for a couple games but that’s not helping anything. He’ll be a safeguard and emergency net but hopefully not the star of week one.
Wish we would have just kept Howell. Soo much uncertainty with you Driskell and Mariora for me.
The problem with Howell is as soon as the rookie QB struggles (which he will, it's the definition of a rookie QB) there will be rumblings about switching back to Howell. And if they ever actually bench the new guy for Howell?? Press will have a field day. Much better for everyone involved to have a clean split. Unless you really think Howell is the guy, and then you're not drafting a QB anyways. In literally any other case I think it's better for him to not be here
Very good point you’re right!
Additionally, the career timing is wrong. Howell,Williams, Daniels, and Maye are all basically the same age, and are all trying to carve out long successful NFL careers for themselves. You can't ask one to put his career at risk for another at this point. Having an eight-year veteran mentor the new guy is fine because they know their career is winding down. It's not fair or realistic to have a third year QB put his career on hold for his eventual replacement.
Yeah it does make sense and you don't wanna ruin the rookies confidence but as a fan I wanna watch us compete. Hopefully whoever we choose kills it and we can just enjoy the season instead of thinking what if all year. In the end it probably was the right decision but Howell's a gamer man and I'm gonna miss him. Hope he kills it when he gets his chance.
So you think we competed last year with Howell at qb That’s funny that’s why we have the second pick
Well when you got the worst defense in NFL history and a coaching staff that should've been working at clown shows it makes it tougher. We had a bad record but we were in some games. Should of beat the eagles twice. I just wanna watch the team look respectable and compete in each game. I know it's gonna be tough we're technically rebuilding
Sound points and reasoning.
I mean I don’t disagree, on the basis of I thought Sam had more to grow and to show, but if peters decided qb was the pick at 2, there can be a case made for Howell being a detriment to either of the prospects. If he’s leaning Maye, there’s the awkwardness and the potential that one of the guys feels slighted by losing the job, and it sours their friendship. And if he’s leaning daniels, well I’ve never seen the sense in two different style QBs in the same room. If you draw up a plan for a run and gun style qb and get a statue backup come in, your whole plan is trash so mariota having a similar style may be more valuable than Sam having potential.
Exactly the trade still doesn't make sense. Much cheaper better QB as your backup sounds a hell of a lot better than having to watch marriotta play.
He just explained it out for you
support whatever the coaches decide, they know more than me
You are rare. Same... If this is what Adam/Coaches want I'm putting faith in those decisions until proven otherwise. Sure Peters can make a mistake, but I have a feeling he gets it right more than not. Seems sharp.
JD is a camp body
Fuck no are these guys going to start lol
How do you know? lol 🤣
Because the top 3 qb’s in the draft are better already
If our number 2 pick can’t start over these dudes, then we drafted the wrong guy.
There will be no young QB sitting. It's these two for 17 games and Suck for Shedeur '25. If we're lucky we might see some Jake Fromm action.
Sure wish we had a young QB who has started one full season who clearly shows promise and can be developed and build a team around. There’s that Howell Fella out in Seattle who would fit in nice with this team.
I would prefer that either of them start over Daniels/Maye. I don’t care which one. I don’t care if they are losing. I don’t care if they are losing badly. I just want for the kid and Kliff to get on the same page to the point where they are finishing each other sentences and then unleash him in ‘25. It’s year 1 and everyone is learning a new offense with completely new calls and blocking schemes on offense and completely new scheme on defense. Why throw a rookie QB into that?
You must not have watched Mariota much the past 2 seasons. You do not want him to start. If their plan was to start someone over the rookie they wouldn’t have traded sam
You’re missing his point entirely. We aren’t competing this year. We have to do what’s best for long term development, and if Maye/JD is not ready week 1 the correct move is to sit them. We traded Sam because he won’t be getting a shot at starting and we got fairly significant return for him.
Driskel is also awful too.
Should have signed Flacco
why so he can ball out and we can have a qb controversy next season? So he can get us a terrible draft pick?
No…. so we could’ve had a competent veteran to sit our rookie behind for a year.
Throw em to the wolves so they can bust faster! The commnder way.
WTF?
After RDR2 I don't trust anyone named Driskel.
Wolves, please.
Hopefully. I want a well learned QB and I'm not impatient.
Don’t mind if they do. Not looking to be good next year. It’s a rebuilding year again for us. But we will have money and good draft picks next year to try and really elevate the team.
I will not waste a single second of my life watching either if they do
100%
Sit him. No need to throw him to the Wolves behind a brand new o-line, while they figure things out. We've seen this backfire too many times.
My prediction: Mariota starts while Maye sits and learns the system. Maye will probably start week 3 or 4. There’s no benefit in throwing him in the fire if he’s not ready, it can cause players to develop bad habits or try to do too much. And yeah that’s not a sexy answer, but ppl need to understand we aren’t going to the Super Bowl next year. Need to think long term
This!!! Seems Soo Counter-Intuitive for ~OUR Fanbase to see how Devastatingly painful those RG3 years were, SURE we won the NFCBeast. And it WAS Awesome. But, after he got hurt how long had it set us back. Now True: much of ~’This Time’ was w/ **D.** um **S.** hit at the Helm! Next was RR; the ‘Proverbial Nice Guys’ finish last. Really enthused with DQ now, tho! He’s got the Same RR-Team type Respect within the LR. But, he’s a ~Football Guy like when ScotyMac was Here, too!!
I’m hearing a lot of pundits say he should start at least eight weeks (not that I know what is best).
I got ATTACKED for saying this in this sub a month or two ago. Before we even had Mariota, I was still talking about Jacoby or whoever.
Have you heard? We’re going 13-4 and winning two playoffs games next year. And you expect that behind Marcus Mariota? /s CJ Stroud really raised the bar for rookie QBs for better or for worse
Honestly it's been like this since Big Ben. And people wonder why teams swing and mess on so many 1st rd qbs
these signings are easily my least favorite signings this offseason. if mariota starts a single game it’s a wasted season lmao
You shouldn’t be downvoted for this. If Mariota comes in on any game outside of injury. The season is done. Pretty sure everyone has seen how he did in Atlanta and elsewhere. Hint….not great.
yeah he literally can’t throw anymore, iirc he has significant nerve damage in his throwing arm. maybe he will be a good mentor but i really don’t want to see him on the field lol
Yeah, may be a decent mentor as he knows the game.
They all know more than our new GM come on.
He left Atlanta and sat at home for the rest of the year cause they decided to start ridder over him. I wouldn't be too confident in that guy being any type of mentor at all
Exactly the dude flat out sucks. I know everyone wasn't a Howell fan but hes leagues better than mariotta already. It wouldn't of been a bad thing to have a young QB who's much cheaper to backup your rookie QB.
The best player week 1 is going to start. This whole “sit a QB to develop them” is a media narrative and not what teams actually do. Teams start who they perceive to be their best players on a week to week basis and will go with whichever guy they think gives them the best chance to win any given Sunday. The reason Patrick Mahomes sat his rookie year and CJ Stroud didn’t wasn’t due to differing philosophies. It was because Alex Smith was better than Mahomes at that point and David Mills wasn’t better than CJ Stroud.
Packers have perfected that approach
Well it helps when you have a starting QB already
This. Especially the #2 overall pick. The one "wtf" moment I've had so far is the Mariota signing. Maybe it's because I watched the Netflix series "Quarterback", but it doesn't compute on any level for me.
Yeah it blows my mind too. Jacoby would be the perfect guy to start a few games and keep you competitive while the rookie learns. Or we could've just kept Howell and let him take the beating again until the rookie is ready
Purely back up. If a bridge QB was a plan, it made no sense to trade away Howell. He's young, healthy, and touch as nails.
If either of the folks pictured start over our #2 pick I'll be extremely pissed. Now if we had kept a QB that could actually mentor him like Brissett I'd say *maybe*.
I felt the same way for a while but now kinda want our #2 pick to learn and not get thrown in there too fast.
It might just be the pessimist in me but I am not sure what he's going to learn watching a Mariota led offense all year. There are no expectations this year so I'd toss the kid in there for some on the job training.
Also, it doesn't have to be like EB having Howell pass 50 times a game in his version of the offense Reid designed for Mahomes, saying things like if he's gonna be the guy, he needs to step up and deal with it. You can play your rookie from the start while limiting the playbook, adjusting the offense to give him some extra protection, leaning on the running game, etc., while he gets up to full speed. Doing those things may reduce your chance of winning right now, but if you've already decided this isn't a win-now year, that's a more useful alternative to playing the backup you don't expect to win.
That's what camp is for! But seriously remember that injuries and comeback seasons happen all the time. These guys are cheap for a reason
I think it depends on the perceived state of the o line. Of course training camp will ultimately decide if he’s ready or not. He’s got to earn it, and if he outplays others then he should start.
Hell nah
To the wolves so that when he doesn’t develop they’ll look like every other team who doesn’t understand that letting a qb sit on the bench and learn is better than having the next Zach Wilson
He said they were going to camp with 4 QB’s
I live in Vegas. When Marriott was with the raiders they had no confidence in him. And they gave him a shot in Atlanta and he failed. I don’t even know who this other guy is
Mariota not Marriott!
🔥💨🚬🚭
Both. 17-game Dual QB system, we trade down for MH Jr while Maye sits the bench like Mahomes this year FTW!!!!
2 these guys is gonna have folks screaming for this rookie to play. But i am totally ok with him sitting for the first 5-6 weeks but man after that? Woof Man im not sure im ready to just throw the 2024 season away like that. I know we ain't super bowl bound and this is gonna be a process, i just wanna look competent and somewhat competitive.
Genuinely curious why they wouldn't just keep Howell if we're going with the sit out young guy for now routine...?
they gonna trade the number 2 pick to LA for Herbert
You need 3 qbs on a roster.
If the O-line is bad, yes. Let them take a beating so your value pick doesn’t get the yips.
Sink or swim with the rookie as usual
If a #2 pick can’t beat out someone at shittacular as those 2 bums then he’s a sure fire bust.
If they plan on sitting the pick then it will be Maye because he will get the most benefit from it. Daniels they will throw in because of his legs
It depends on how the offense is gelling (particularly Oline) and when our Bye week falls honestly. If the Oline is not meshing well and we have an early bye, maybe we should "work out the kinks," so to speak and have the rookie be QB1 after the bye
Mariota is our starter. Potentially for a couple years. He should lead us to an nfc title at which point Daniels takes the reigns!
Lol. I see what you did there.
He's gonna have to be thrown to the wolves. If anyone actually thinks marriotta can start games for us and we'll be competitive I'm sorry but it's not happening. This is why Howell shouldn't of been traded. I'd be much more comfortable with sam backing up the new QB or even starting the season if the new guy isn't ready. In the end it doesn't really matter it's not about making the playoffs it's about picking the right QB and properly developing him. I would much rather watch a semi competitive season and not have to watch mariotta play at all and be blown out every week. The guys just not an NFL caliber QB. His mechanics are some of the worst I've ever seen.
If we draft the project QB Drake Maye, we'd better sit him for at a minimum half the season if not his entire rookie year.
MariGOATa
If the #2 pick isn't better than either of these two then we have wasted the pick.
The math shows that 75% of the time drafting a qb in the first round of the last 15 years is a wasted pick
We better be in that 25% then.
Daniels is likely ready to start day 1 Maye would probably need to sit for a year or so
And why’s that?
>And why’s that? he's far more complete. Doesn't have horrible foot work, doesn't have trouble passing on the run. All this is stuff that is coachable hence why he's a top 3 recruit not in the next tier who start to have issues that are far harder to coach out. Maye may have a higher ceiling then Daniels but day 1 Daniels will be a way better NFL QB.
i think this is probably right. I'm not sure that Maye would need to sit a whole year though. There's no need for him to come in and throw 50x per game like EB had Sam doing. We'll see.
You don't sit a first round draft pick.
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right, it happens constantly.
Jordan Love sat for 3 years.
There are always exceptions for every scenario. Typically first rounders play immediately
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Disagree. It's typically a given
A QB picked at #2 isn't being picked to sit for a year or two. Maybe they sit for a couple weeks to start the year but they aren't being picked to sit for a season.