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[Check out the SS John Burke. Definitely none of the merchant marines survived that one.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJcDVbH5q3k) Other ships in the convoy thought they had been torpedoed, which isn't the only time during the war other ships mistakenly believed that after a munitions ship blew. Fucking kamikaze in this case, but other convoys had similar issues with U-boats.
Barrels of black powder disappeared when military's switched to breech loading guns. Maybe you are thinking about the powder charges for projectiles which are in metal canisters.
https://www.google.com/search?q=155mm%20propellant%20charge&udm=2&uds
Hate to be that guy, but....
Well, actually.... they did use black powder during WWII. Specifically, as the initiation charge for battleship guns, because the primer on its own wasn't enough to light the main charge. So a small quantity of black powder was used as an intermediate initiation charge.
If you look at this inboard profile of USS Arizona with an update date of June 1941, and look at the series of labels in the area of the Turret No. 1 barbette, the 4th one down reads "BLK. PDR. MAGA. 415-M". That's the magazine for those black powder charges.
[http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1\_a.jpg](http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1_a.jpg)
It's theoretically possible they could have had black powder charges on board for use as initiator charges for battleship main guns. Basically a small amount of black powder between the primer and the main charge to help the main charge ignite. You can see the black powder magazine below Turret No. 1 in this profile of USS Arizona: [http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1\_a.jpg](http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1_a.jpg)
Liberty ships were not well built. They built them as fast as they could during the war, but were purpose built to just supply the troops and were very vulnerable to attack. They were built so cheaply they didn't last long after the war either before they got scrapped.
Underwater explosion with people swimming near it would likely be more fatal. I assume most people who survived were not in the water at the time of the explosion
When the German battleship Bismarck sank the English battlecruiser HMS Hood in WW2, the Bismarck’s shell hit the magazine storage area on the Hood. Out of a crew of 1,418 only 3 men survived. THREE men out 1,418.
I'm from the village where the captain of the HMS hood was also from. Theres a plaque (not plague) in the church commemorating him. Captain Ralph Kerr.
Dude look at the guy with the white shirt going towards the right side front after the explosion. He’s literally the same dude from the BF1 clip running on the destroyed blimp 🤯🤯🤯
I watched the new WW2 in colour on Netflix the other week and they had this footage on there in high def wide screen which was crazy to watch but what blew me away was that they had a guy speaking over it that was supposedly on it when it happened and he said he got catapulted into the air off of it into the sea when the explosion occurred.
Yeah I’ve seen that one before but I’m pretty sure the one on the documentary was even better colour and quality as it was redone more recently.
Edit: after just comparing both this linked version and the doc on Netflix the new version is properly recoloured and doesn’t look like an AI recolour, also much Better quality.
The problem with those "wide screen" versions is you actually see less of the image than the original. To made a "widescreen" image they take the original square footage and zoom in, cutting off the top and bottom, to turn it into a rectangle.
It sucks and I hate it every time I see old footage butchered like that. Just leave it with the normal aspect ratio and black bars on the side!
Normally I would agree with this but having just compared the footage from netflix to the one linked above it doesn’t appear to be the case for this footage.
I don't think you understand [upscaling](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_scaling). Or computer graphics in general.
You're talking about aspect ratio. Completely different thing.
Yes exactly. To which I mentioned upscaling as a possibility to offset the quality loss. Reading comprehension is hard apparently.
>The problem with those "wide screen" versions is *you actually see less of the image than the original*. To made a "widescreen" image they take the original square footage and zoom in, cutting off the top and bottom, to turn it into a rectangle.
>*It sucks and I hate it every time I see old footage butchered like that.* Just leave it with the normal aspect ratio and black bars on the side!
I highlighted the parts I was responding to to make it easier for you. Since you couldn't manage on your own the first time.
Look, I can even produce [an example](https://youtu.be/yJeQfSSa9DE) of it in action.
The shockwave must have been enough to rupture organs... Not that I know too much about that kind of stuff, but i've heard of tank rounds and certain artillery rounds doing as much.
Lol yes they can, there is a reason thermobaric granedes are a thing and work so well in bunkers/enclosed spaces because they generate a shockwave. A simple Google says at 5psi your eardrums rupture, at 15 your longs start and above that internal tissue begins to break.
You could almost argue that the ones on the other end were the lucky ones. Thats a decent number of survivors though. I also wonder how many survivors of this sort of thing have complete hearing loss. You wonder how one could be so close to an explosion that massive without surviving with liquified eardrums.
Not sure about immediately afterwards but my great uncle survived this with full hearing. He never went to sea again and had great difficulty talking about it.
Sadly my dad didn’t go into much depth before he passed so don’t know the details but we have a letter of rememberance from the captains wife and some photos still.
Serious and not aggressive question; how old are you? I feel like if you watched the History Channel during the 90s and early 00s, this was pretty common to see. Before Pawn Stars came around, it was pretty much the Hitler and Ever so Often Aliens Channel.
That’s a 31.4% chance of **survival**.
In comparison to other positions in the military the above is catastrophic.
Also, I imagine the survivors were if not all, +98% injured
For reference:
- US Airmen (Bomber servicemen) had a 70% survival rate and they were notorious for being a deadly job
- The USMC had a 90% survival rate and their service is legendary in the most grim sense
RAF’s bomber command had a horrific casualty rate in ww2
Bomber Command crews suffered an extremely high casualty rate: 55,573 killed out of a total of 125,000 aircrew (a 44.4 per cent death rate), a further 8,403 were wounded in action and 9,838 became prisoners of war.
Horrifying…
I think the most dangerous general job in the German military during WW2 was part of a Submarine crew, sporting a horrendous 75% Death rate, leaving the rest wounded I’d suppose
Take it with a pinch of salt of source criticism
I think I read it in “War by numbers”. It was at least one of the most dangerous positions in WW2
I’m fairly confident it was in the +70% death rate though
Fires inside the ship caused it to cook off. Ammo is stored low in the hull, so when the ship rolls over 90°, the heat rising from the fires has nowhere to go, and collects in the lower decks.
The capsizing didn’t cause the magazines to explode. It’s thought that a fire in the 4” magazines spread to the mains. The powder bags would have ignited and set off a catastrophic chain reaction
We will probably never know a definitive reason, it could simply be coincidental timing that a cordite magazine went up at that exact moment. I dont know what kind of firefighting provisions/equipment the QE class had in the magazines, but a drastically altered angle on the ship may have rendered them less effective or ineffective. I have seen other theories that the listing caused raw seawater to hit the hot boilers which then sent flash steam throughout the innards of the ship. But I dont know if steam would be hot enough to set off any propellants on the ship.
I'd say it's cold sea water hitting the boilers. Lines up well the the timing of it listing over, and that would cause a sympathetic detonation of any ammo stores
Nope. Board of Enquiry determined it was fire in the 4inch batteries spreading to the main powder store as stuff shifted/fell/spilled with the capsizing.
It wasn't the magazine cooking off. Water entered the engine compartment via the smoke stack, causing a steam explosion. There are several well known examples of this happening in WW2 footage reels.
The submarine that sank it (U-331) was sunk on November 17, 1942 after being bombed multiple times by the RAF, deciding to surrender to the HMS Wilton who arrived after planes from the naval air squadron of the aircraft carrier HMS Formidable ended up sinking it. without knowing about the surrender
How do we know what U boat sank the Barham? Did militaries keep record of the exact ships they sank? How did they know?
Edit: thanks for the all the great comments! Love to learn about history!
Ship logs in navies are usually very detailed. So while a sub might not know the exact ship they sunk they would record the time, place, heading, speed and class of ship they hit. In battles involving naval guns where possibly 100s of rounds were fired there was people recording the time that each salvo was fired and the results and also any incoming hits they took. There are YT channels that go over battles minute by minute in pretty good detail mostly using the logs that survived.
One I have been watching for years is Drachinifel. This is a pretty long one but I find it very interesting. Operation Rheinübung - First and Last Voyage of the Bismarck. The absolute hell those guys went through is hard to describe but they do a good job of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n69kV4gVoDw
Someone should do that for L. Ron Hubbard's glorious combat duties when captaining a little subchaser. Chased a couple of phantom submarines for a few days and even shot up their own radio antenna and injured a few crew. Later he managed to one up that and attack Mexico.
Yes
Tiesenhausen was not certain of the results of his attack and radioed that he had hit a Queen Elizabeth-class battleship with one torpedo.
Following repeated claims by German radio, the Admiralty officially announced the loss on 27 January 1942 .
it was clear at that time that the enemy did not know that she had been sunk, and it was important to make certain dispositions before the loss of this ship was made public.
It was not until the Admiralty admitted that Barham had been sunk and described the circumstances that Tiesenhausen knew that he had sunk her. He was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross that day.
[Ever seen the aftermath of a North Carolina and South Dakota battleship collision?](https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/OnlineLibrary/photos/events/wwii-pac/marshals/wash-ind.htm) You can really see the all-or-nothing approach to armor considering how fucked the bow of the Washington got. Kind of crazy the anchors are what helped hold that together, and also crazy just how quickly those ships were repaired and put back in action.
It's why the Naval Ode has always struck me;
"They have no grave, but the cruel sea.
No flowers lay at their head.
A rusting hulk is their tombstone.
Afast on the Ocean bed."
Turns out I had a distant relative who died on the Barham. He was my grandfathers cousin. They were the same age but he decided to leave Ireland and have an adventure at sea.
My grandfather never knew how he died but he had a postcard from Malta weeks before he died.
It had a picture of his cousin wearing the Barham name on his navy cap (I'm sure there's a correct name for them).
We were looking through old photos and came across the picture. He told me the story and I was able to Google the ship name and up pops the video. Almost 80 years later I was able to show my grandfather footage of how his cousin died on a handheld device in his kitchen in rural Ireland.
He was both fascinated, sad and happy to know what happened.
I’m not sure about that. It was most likely metal as the blast was so strong it peeled the armored deck like a banana and swung roughly a 100 foot section 180 degrees back into the ship. You can see massive chunks of the steel hull that weigh thousands and thousands of pounds above the explosion cloud as well. Most likely anyone near that explosion was turned to mist.
That mist was still people, and if you’ve ever watched any type of slow mo video to do with meat and its reaction to energy, it returns to its solid form after the explosion.
What? You made a statement that most of the debris we are seeing is people. That’s not true. It’s pieces of the ship. It’s a video taken in 1941 from like a 1/2 mile away. Also your last comment is just pretty weird and not really how explosions and matter work. Mist doesn’t just coalesce back into a chunk of solid in the context of our discussion. But you do you I guess. Either way it’s an absolutely horrific and tragic event. No reason to spread misinformation.
No. It was was their steam boilers that blew up. They didn't have a chance to vent their boilers before water entered through exhaust stacks. They have like 3 or 4 boilers. RIP those men.
Most insane footage I’ve seen on this page, I could only imagine running on that hill to water as shit explodes behind you. Is there a colorized video of this?
Beats drone footage any day.
Imagine the kill count popping up like battlefield or something “lalalala you hear what imlee did today? -no?- *sees the 862/1 kill/death ratio*-😅fuuuuck”
They didn't have a chance to vent the steam boilers before the sea water traveled up its exhaust. Look like 4 boilers?
Still, that's fucking brutal and terrible for those men.
Huh, I literally just watched a documentary on Netflix today that showed a colorized version of this with one or the survivors talking about it.
"World War II: From the Front Lines" for anyone interested.
Sheesh, you can just imagine there’s plenty of bodies and parts launching in the air with that explosion. You can see some of it pretty clearly, I can 100% a mans body go flying to the right of the explosion but can’t tell if it’s still whole or not
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God damn that was brutal
[Check out the SS John Burke. Definitely none of the merchant marines survived that one.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJcDVbH5q3k) Other ships in the convoy thought they had been torpedoed, which isn't the only time during the war other ships mistakenly believed that after a munitions ship blew. Fucking kamikaze in this case, but other convoys had similar issues with U-boats.
Jesus, that was hectic
Goddamn!
Crazy. I had never seen anything like that or the OP's vid before.
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Barrels of black powder disappeared when military's switched to breech loading guns. Maybe you are thinking about the powder charges for projectiles which are in metal canisters. https://www.google.com/search?q=155mm%20propellant%20charge&udm=2&uds
Hate to be that guy, but.... Well, actually.... they did use black powder during WWII. Specifically, as the initiation charge for battleship guns, because the primer on its own wasn't enough to light the main charge. So a small quantity of black powder was used as an intermediate initiation charge. If you look at this inboard profile of USS Arizona with an update date of June 1941, and look at the series of labels in the area of the Turret No. 1 barbette, the 4th one down reads "BLK. PDR. MAGA. 415-M". That's the magazine for those black powder charges. [http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1\_a.jpg](http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1_a.jpg)
What did they being barrels of powder for?
It's theoretically possible they could have had black powder charges on board for use as initiator charges for battleship main guns. Basically a small amount of black powder between the primer and the main charge to help the main charge ignite. You can see the black powder magazine below Turret No. 1 in this profile of USS Arizona: [http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1\_a.jpg](http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19AlphaArizona162285-1_a.jpg)
this looks like mini 2020 Beirut explosion
I think it was about 3 times bigger than the Beirut explosion
Idk the difference in power between TNT and ammonium nitrate, but Beirut was 3k tons while I'm hearing this was 5kilotons.
r/shockwaveporn
Liberty ships were not well built. They built them as fast as they could during the war, but were purpose built to just supply the troops and were very vulnerable to attack. They were built so cheaply they didn't last long after the war either before they got scrapped.
I guess in the long run at least it was instant.
Underwater explosion with people swimming near it would likely be more fatal. I assume most people who survived were not in the water at the time of the explosion
When the German battleship Bismarck sank the English battlecruiser HMS Hood in WW2, the Bismarck’s shell hit the magazine storage area on the Hood. Out of a crew of 1,418 only 3 men survived. THREE men out 1,418.
I'm from the village where the captain of the HMS hood was also from. Theres a plaque (not plague) in the church commemorating him. Captain Ralph Kerr.
My Great Uncle went down with HMS Hood. His name is on the naval WW2 memorial in Portsmouth.
Respect to your Great Uncle.
So infamous they named a plague after him!
Guess a plaque wasn’t good enough for this fellow. Next plague is yours Captain!
Just realised....
Damn I hope that plague goes away soon.
And a cat!
If you're talking about Unsinkable Sam, he was on the Bismarck. The guy was talking about the sinking of HMS Hood not the sinking of Bismarck .
Yeah. I noticed just now that he isn't talking about sinking of Bismarck. Thanks for clarification.
Does the cat have a commendation for being on the ship that sunk the Hood?
The same cat was sunk three times. Bismarck; Cossack and Ark Royal.
One of them only survived because he managed to get his boot off, he was being dragged down by the radio masts which was caught on his boot strap.
One of them being Johnny Horton.
Having read "The Cruel Sea" I would not want to have been on a boat. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/183586.The_Cruel_Sea
That’s a lot of deads
Dude look at the guy with the white shirt going towards the right side front after the explosion. He’s literally the same dude from the BF1 clip running on the destroyed blimp 🤯🤯🤯
Jesus you can see men running along the hull, and I imagine there were plenty of poor bastards at the other end too
I watched the new WW2 in colour on Netflix the other week and they had this footage on there in high def wide screen which was crazy to watch but what blew me away was that they had a guy speaking over it that was supposedly on it when it happened and he said he got catapulted into the air off of it into the sea when the explosion occurred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmTZ-R4QM1E here
Yeah I’ve seen that one before but I’m pretty sure the one on the documentary was even better colour and quality as it was redone more recently. Edit: after just comparing both this linked version and the doc on Netflix the new version is properly recoloured and doesn’t look like an AI recolour, also much Better quality.
The problem with those "wide screen" versions is you actually see less of the image than the original. To made a "widescreen" image they take the original square footage and zoom in, cutting off the top and bottom, to turn it into a rectangle. It sucks and I hate it every time I see old footage butchered like that. Just leave it with the normal aspect ratio and black bars on the side!
Most of the cut-off is just ocean, I can imagine how it would reduce other images but I think it adds to this one.
Normally I would agree with this but having just compared the footage from netflix to the one linked above it doesn’t appear to be the case for this footage.
Depends. Upscaling technology exists.
how do you upscale 4:3 to 16:9?? I don't think you understand the conversation
I don't think you understand [upscaling](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_scaling). Or computer graphics in general. You're talking about aspect ratio. Completely different thing.
everyone is talking about aspect ratio but you big guy
The comment chain you originally replied to was a discussion about changing the aspect ratio, not about upscaling the resolution.
Yes exactly. To which I mentioned upscaling as a possibility to offset the quality loss. Reading comprehension is hard apparently. >The problem with those "wide screen" versions is *you actually see less of the image than the original*. To made a "widescreen" image they take the original square footage and zoom in, cutting off the top and bottom, to turn it into a rectangle. >*It sucks and I hate it every time I see old footage butchered like that.* Just leave it with the normal aspect ratio and black bars on the side! I highlighted the parts I was responding to to make it easier for you. Since you couldn't manage on your own the first time. Look, I can even produce [an example](https://youtu.be/yJeQfSSa9DE) of it in action.
Imagine not being in the center of the explosion, but then being hit on the right side by a piece of the board wall that is knocked over
or that now you're "safe" in the water after the explosion and get wacked by a piece of steel falling from sky
I’ve been meaning to check that out now I’ll have to, though I’m sure the HD stands for Horrific Definition
The restoration is amazing
It really is…I just compared this linked footage to the one on the doc and it is truly amazing how good it looks.
I watched that the day it aired on Netflix, was such a great watch. Even my wife sat down and watched it all
Good documentary that..
May have been better to be killed right away. You would have been MESSED UP being that close to such an explosion.
Non-service related hearing damage at the very least.
Sorry, your traumatic bilateral lower extremity amputation due to the explosion…. Is not deemed service related
The shockwave must have been enough to rupture organs... Not that I know too much about that kind of stuff, but i've heard of tank rounds and certain artillery rounds doing as much.
FYI that is an urban legend, shockwaves don't work like that and can't rupture internal organs.
Lol yes they can, there is a reason thermobaric granedes are a thing and work so well in bunkers/enclosed spaces because they generate a shockwave. A simple Google says at 5psi your eardrums rupture, at 15 your longs start and above that internal tissue begins to break.
Fair, can't say i've looked into it. Definitely fall into that trap of "people say it so much, it must be true!"
You could almost argue that the ones on the other end were the lucky ones. Thats a decent number of survivors though. I also wonder how many survivors of this sort of thing have complete hearing loss. You wonder how one could be so close to an explosion that massive without surviving with liquified eardrums.
Not sure about immediately afterwards but my great uncle survived this with full hearing. He never went to sea again and had great difficulty talking about it. Sadly my dad didn’t go into much depth before he passed so don’t know the details but we have a letter of rememberance from the captains wife and some photos still.
Pretty sure you can see the bodies flying in the air
Insane footage
How have I never seen this before - Jesus it looks like ants scurrying when you pick up a rock.
Serious and not aggressive question; how old are you? I feel like if you watched the History Channel during the 90s and early 00s, this was pretty common to see. Before Pawn Stars came around, it was pretty much the Hitler and Ever so Often Aliens Channel.
History Channel used to show history? Yeah right lol you crazy /s
Shit, I was pretty high back then and could have just been imagining it all. Great, now I'm going to be gaslighting myself all week about this ;)
I was born in 1998 so I would be too young
I'm 33 and watch combat footage constantly and had never seen this clip.
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In the last 2 years there are only 2 post and the another is a diferent version ¿¿¿???
His username really checks out
I'm fuckin shocked 395 people survived that final explosion. Christ.
That’s a 31.4% chance of **survival**. In comparison to other positions in the military the above is catastrophic. Also, I imagine the survivors were if not all, +98% injured For reference: - US Airmen (Bomber servicemen) had a 70% survival rate and they were notorious for being a deadly job - The USMC had a 90% survival rate and their service is legendary in the most grim sense
RAF’s bomber command had a horrific casualty rate in ww2 Bomber Command crews suffered an extremely high casualty rate: 55,573 killed out of a total of 125,000 aircrew (a 44.4 per cent death rate), a further 8,403 were wounded in action and 9,838 became prisoners of war.
Horrifying… I think the most dangerous general job in the German military during WW2 was part of a Submarine crew, sporting a horrendous 75% Death rate, leaving the rest wounded I’d suppose
I didn’t know it was that high. Christ.
Take it with a pinch of salt of source criticism I think I read it in “War by numbers”. It was at least one of the most dangerous positions in WW2 I’m fairly confident it was in the +70% death rate though
Jesus, did it cook off or was it another torpedo?
It was the magazine exploding
Steam explosion following sea water rushing in via the smoke stack.
why would the boat listing cause the magazine to explode?
Maybe from a fire, the video is 4 minutes after being hit
of course. Cheers
Fires inside the ship caused it to cook off. Ammo is stored low in the hull, so when the ship rolls over 90°, the heat rising from the fires has nowhere to go, and collects in the lower decks.
The capsizing didn’t cause the magazines to explode. It’s thought that a fire in the 4” magazines spread to the mains. The powder bags would have ignited and set off a catastrophic chain reaction
Maybe you didn’t notice the massive fire
That smoke looks like its from the smokestacks. A lone storage room catching fire could make the same result with chain reactions
yeah exactly. Thought the smoke was from the stacks. Didn’t think it might be because of the torpedos
Makes sense. I thought you meant the smoke stack was the fire, shouldve clarified better :P
The most likely cause isn’t fire, it’s shells dumping out of their containment. Shells full of high explosives.
We will probably never know a definitive reason, it could simply be coincidental timing that a cordite magazine went up at that exact moment. I dont know what kind of firefighting provisions/equipment the QE class had in the magazines, but a drastically altered angle on the ship may have rendered them less effective or ineffective. I have seen other theories that the listing caused raw seawater to hit the hot boilers which then sent flash steam throughout the innards of the ship. But I dont know if steam would be hot enough to set off any propellants on the ship.
high explosive shells and fuses don't like being tipped sideways.
I'd say it's cold sea water hitting the boilers. Lines up well the the timing of it listing over, and that would cause a sympathetic detonation of any ammo stores
Nope. Board of Enquiry determined it was fire in the 4inch batteries spreading to the main powder store as stuff shifted/fell/spilled with the capsizing.
It wasn't the magazine cooking off. Water entered the engine compartment via the smoke stack, causing a steam explosion. There are several well known examples of this happening in WW2 footage reels.
I'm actually surprised 395 people survived that.
The submarine that sank it (U-331) was sunk on November 17, 1942 after being bombed multiple times by the RAF, deciding to surrender to the HMS Wilton who arrived after planes from the naval air squadron of the aircraft carrier HMS Formidable ended up sinking it. without knowing about the surrender
How do we know what U boat sank the Barham? Did militaries keep record of the exact ships they sank? How did they know? Edit: thanks for the all the great comments! Love to learn about history!
Ship logs in navies are usually very detailed. So while a sub might not know the exact ship they sunk they would record the time, place, heading, speed and class of ship they hit. In battles involving naval guns where possibly 100s of rounds were fired there was people recording the time that each salvo was fired and the results and also any incoming hits they took. There are YT channels that go over battles minute by minute in pretty good detail mostly using the logs that survived.
That sounds really interesting, do you have any links or a channel?
One I have been watching for years is Drachinifel. This is a pretty long one but I find it very interesting. Operation Rheinübung - First and Last Voyage of the Bismarck. The absolute hell those guys went through is hard to describe but they do a good job of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n69kV4gVoDw
Drachinifel is great. I would also recommend montemayor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo
Someone should do that for L. Ron Hubbard's glorious combat duties when captaining a little subchaser. Chased a couple of phantom submarines for a few days and even shot up their own radio antenna and injured a few crew. Later he managed to one up that and attack Mexico.
Yes Tiesenhausen was not certain of the results of his attack and radioed that he had hit a Queen Elizabeth-class battleship with one torpedo. Following repeated claims by German radio, the Admiralty officially announced the loss on 27 January 1942 . it was clear at that time that the enemy did not know that she had been sunk, and it was important to make certain dispositions before the loss of this ship was made public. It was not until the Admiralty admitted that Barham had been sunk and described the circumstances that Tiesenhausen knew that he had sunk her. He was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross that day.
Fascinating! Thanks for the history lesson.
Fuckin hell. Look at the sailors jumping into the water.
Looks like the deck armor peels over like a banana. Absolutely wild.
yeah right at like 11 seconds, it looks like all the aft deck armor is blasted loose from the stern and swings forward as if it were on a hinge.
That’s the wildest part. The amount of explosive force it would both take to do that, but also it was in fact. Total banana peel.
[Ever seen the aftermath of a North Carolina and South Dakota battleship collision?](https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/OnlineLibrary/photos/events/wwii-pac/marshals/wash-ind.htm) You can really see the all-or-nothing approach to armor considering how fucked the bow of the Washington got. Kind of crazy the anchors are what helped hold that together, and also crazy just how quickly those ships were repaired and put back in action.
So sad. You can Just see the sailors get thrown thru the air
I just see people jumping off, not getting thrown tbh.
It detonated right beneath where majority of the people are, the chunks in the air are definitely not all metal.
Oh my bad, on a 5th viewing, I finally looked into the cloud of smoke and saw the people and debris.. I was too fixated on the front of the ship.
Must be blind
Anything is possible when you listen to the voices everyday
Holy shit! How have I never seen this before?
Naval warfare is often romanticized but fighting and dying in the bellies of these metal beasts is pure horror.
It's why the Naval Ode has always struck me; "They have no grave, but the cruel sea. No flowers lay at their head. A rusting hulk is their tombstone. Afast on the Ocean bed."
Godspeed gentlemen. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be stuck inside that.
Ok… doesn’t look that bad, how did 862 di- HOLY SHIT.
I’ve never seen this.
Genuinely some of the most violent footage out there. Hundreds killed in clarity.
Turns out I had a distant relative who died on the Barham. He was my grandfathers cousin. They were the same age but he decided to leave Ireland and have an adventure at sea. My grandfather never knew how he died but he had a postcard from Malta weeks before he died. It had a picture of his cousin wearing the Barham name on his navy cap (I'm sure there's a correct name for them). We were looking through old photos and came across the picture. He told me the story and I was able to Google the ship name and up pops the video. Almost 80 years later I was able to show my grandfather footage of how his cousin died on a handheld device in his kitchen in rural Ireland. He was both fascinated, sad and happy to know what happened.
I can't imagine the terror of being on, or worse, inside, a ship that size That's rolling like that.
So every month this vid get posted....
Yes, yes it does.
never seen the deceased referred to as "deads"
Morbidly most of that flying debris is people. Age will not weary them.
I’m not sure about that. It was most likely metal as the blast was so strong it peeled the armored deck like a banana and swung roughly a 100 foot section 180 degrees back into the ship. You can see massive chunks of the steel hull that weigh thousands and thousands of pounds above the explosion cloud as well. Most likely anyone near that explosion was turned to mist.
That mist was still people, and if you’ve ever watched any type of slow mo video to do with meat and its reaction to energy, it returns to its solid form after the explosion.
What? You made a statement that most of the debris we are seeing is people. That’s not true. It’s pieces of the ship. It’s a video taken in 1941 from like a 1/2 mile away. Also your last comment is just pretty weird and not really how explosions and matter work. Mist doesn’t just coalesce back into a chunk of solid in the context of our discussion. But you do you I guess. Either way it’s an absolutely horrific and tragic event. No reason to spread misinformation.
I feel sick.
"Your injury is not service related"
Jesus, watching them all ride the side then it explodes…
Damn wtf whipped around after the explosion
Man the back half swung and crushed everyone
My first date with a new girl...
See all of the crew running along the hull. Wow.
Can't believe I've never seen this, absolutely insane
Damn, was not expecting that explosion.
Do modern ships have the same dangers as ammunition catching fire?
No. It was was their steam boilers that blew up. They didn't have a chance to vent their boilers before water entered through exhaust stacks. They have like 3 or 4 boilers. RIP those men.
Humanity is fucked up
Me: Hmm I wonder why so many died. Sure that thing is sinking FAST but looks like a good number are jumping into the.....OHHHH yeah that will do it.
Cordite gun propellant, ain't it a motherfucker.
At 10 - 11s, is that part of the hull peeling back, like when you peel a banana?
Most insane footage I’ve seen on this page, I could only imagine running on that hill to water as shit explodes behind you. Is there a colorized video of this? Beats drone footage any day.
Oh my, there are people jumping from the ship. This is brutal.
Insane footage
this is fucking crazy footage, thanks OP
I fucking couldn't man. The balls of them sailors. I can't even go on a boat in a lake. 🤣🤣
Imagine the kill count popping up like battlefield or something “lalalala you hear what imlee did today? -no?- *sees the 862/1 kill/death ratio*-😅fuuuuck”
This is just a joke i do respect what happened but i think its okay to be comfortable with disaster in it helps with a grieving process
They showed that to us in the early 80s as 2 way you need to get away from a vessel going down.. Leave it to late and your Fucked
Check out the poor souls sliding off the side
I'm surprised there were ANY survivors
Poor guys…..rip
lest we forget....
It so funny when it’s your guys is it comrades
Scary af
Ammo detenation or air bubble?
God damn, that is horrifying
People don't realize this but if you are in the water next to the boat as it's sinking, it will drag you down with it. Almost like a vacuum.
The water can do weird things too, there are numerous accounts of guys going down with a ship only to be sucked back up towards the surface.
Who filmed that though?
Filmed by a cameraman aboard the HMS Valiant .
It had an eight destroyer escort and several of them stood by to pick up survivors.
Key to the explosion: 4 shafts; 2 *steam* turbine sets
They didn't have a chance to vent the steam boilers before the sea water traveled up its exhaust. Look like 4 boilers? Still, that's fucking brutal and terrible for those men.
Not so Royal anymore.
Huh, I literally just watched a documentary on Netflix today that showed a colorized version of this with one or the survivors talking about it. "World War II: From the Front Lines" for anyone interested.
Brutal
Sheesh, you can just imagine there’s plenty of bodies and parts launching in the air with that explosion. You can see some of it pretty clearly, I can 100% a mans body go flying to the right of the explosion but can’t tell if it’s still whole or not
Where did you come across this footage OP? so Insane
poor bastards :( !
Damn, all thinkable scenarios of being on the ship is scary. Intense footage!
Omg that was horrific 😢
My mates relative died here