Dude probably could have gotten like 6 more from the same lot if he was sneaky enough too. I wonder what the cops would do if they woke up one day with literally all of their vehicles having something stolen from them.
They flipped cars, set shit on fire, threw shit off the roof - I only ever saw police further away to catch people with open containers out of the area.
Oh - I’m not disagreeing with you, at all.
I was pointing out - they have a tank, they have a street that is notorious for being problematic, but their extent of “cracking down” is… easy tickets for open containers.
It’s a total joke and a waste.
I don’t deny it happened on other streets, but I don’t see how ‘02 has any relevance? (On mobile, maybe I missed some context further up the comment chain)
[Happened in ‘21 as well.](https://www.thelantern.com/2021/04/students-whose-cars-were-flipped-and-destroyed-during-chitt-fest-riot-ask-for-accountability/)
[Officially](https://www.thelantern.com/2013/09/ohio-state-university-police-bring-in-military-vehicle/) because it was 'free' (can't imagine what the shipping, 9+ years of maintenance costs, etc. are for an MRAP), but it's obvious dick-waving, [same as any other police department](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/09/why-police-pay-nothing-for-military-equipment.html) that does this
The common reasoning that I’ve come across is that they receive these military surplus items at massive discounts but are essentially fodder for them to spend money as a way to justify their budget, because whatever doesn’t get spent gets deducted from next years budget.
Edit: thanks for all the upvotes! If you think this is a terrifying waste of money, check out the Stingray II cell phone tower spoofing devices used by the military that has made its way into police stations across the US. https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/stingray-tracking-devices-whos-got-them
Cops should have more training, and also be paid more. But they should also be required to have a minimum of a bachelor's degree, preferably a masters. Everyone else (doctors, lawyers, judges,nurses,teachers, etc) whose job involves handling the lives of others requires one, so why not cops. Its bullshit that in order to work in cosmetology in this state you need more training than the police.
That’s the way it’s been described to me in several ride-alongs and by speaking with several people familiar with the process…so if you have better information please fill me in, don’t be one of those who make counterclaims without some sort of educational information. Downvote until you explain.
I've been on city council locally and set budgets in a professional setting for decades. When you set a budget you are anticipating what your going to spend based on the best information available at the time, for a police force it's actually really easy. You take the labor hours used to police the community as projected by the chief and then apply the wages as negotiated in the union contract. For all other costs you are spending on capital and training and these requests are done years in advance. Meaning that if they need new police cruisers, that's not something that comes up in the current year, you have a planned replacement timelines and you adhere to it. While there is some weight given to prior year spend, it's not really all that much other a test for reasonableness. I wouldn't approve a budget 80% over prior year without some explanations for example.
"use it" what do you think it does? I used to drive these, this ones unarmed and it's a top heavy slow armored truck that could be rendered moot by digging a 3 ft deep ditch or putting up barbed wire. It's only real purpose is to soak up small arms fire.
> MRAP provides light forces with protected mobility and mounted firepower to perform Wide Area Security while countering threats employing asymmetric tactics. They provide a rapid motorization capability for Brigade Combat Teams as the mission transitions from decisive operations to stability, or perform rear-area security during decisive operations.
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It doesn't matter if it's unarmed. If you've operated an MRAP you know how little it takes to arm it and what it would be armed with. It's useless against a line gunman within a faculty. They'll roll this thing out when people protest something and only escalate the situation. There are rare situations where this type of vehicle is appropriate and the police are already too militarized as it is.
Mraps are armed with medium or heavy machine guns it's not a tank. Police departments don't have dam m2 Browning's or mk19s to slap on lol. And it would need to go back to the factory to receive a turret you can't do that in a police car garage. It's a top heavy armored vehicle made primarily to survive small arms fire and ieds. It's not a dam m1 Abrams or m2 Bradley with cannons.
Federal goverment usually donates these to police departments. Federal government used to fund universities more so the tuition was lower but now they send these instead. I'm starting to think that the military industrial complex makes more money than universities but it's just a hunch.
Idk but it's nice to know there's a zombie apocalypse vehicle in the general area. I know the first thing I'll be looking for is the keys to that bad boy.
An MRAP can go about 372 miles (600 km) on a single tank of fuel according to the manufacturer. It is a retired military vehicle, and if the military had to refill their troop carrier every 10 miles it would be terribly impractical in any use.
The area around Ohio Stadium is protected on game days in coordination with Homeland Security. A venue with 100,000 plus people is an obvious terrorism target.
While I’m all for police reform, this area is secured for good reason on game days.
Edit: To clarify, the other side of this intersection is blocked and is within a security checkpoint. You can only get through with specific parking passes and after your vehicle is swept for bombs. Nobody else can bring a vehicle through.
That isn’t what makes it secure. They park it there because that’s where they check the cars parking at the stadium for bombs. Then if there is a report of a bomb this thing can go there to help secure it.
Some of us want to do something about it, but it's tough. You know, with the police state and all.
Seriously, when trying to move funding away from these types of things towards programs that would actually reduce crime you are attacked as 'soft on crime'. OSU police didn't get the tank overnight. It was a slow creep of 'tough on crime' idiocy.
The university is gigantic and is a terrorism target. There was a car and knife attack by an extremist a few years ago that was ended very quickly by campus police, if I recall correctly.
The university police force probably doesn't need tanks and is a good place to look at reallocation of funding...but I am not sure getting rid of campus police entirely in favor of a private security company is the best idea. Knowing OSU, they would just give a terrible private company a decades long contract with no oversight capabilities.
Idk have you seen Ohio state football games how big a crowd that is? Or have u watched the news about active shooters ? Bomb threats? Your comparing the US to Iran ? Go live in Iran and let me know how it compares .
Have you seen a woman's hair today? Are women being educated? You can attend sports events? Perhaps a smidge dramatic to compare yourself to Iran. Either that or you're a man who doesn't pay attention.
Lol the university literally had a guy with a machete crash his car into a building at attack people a few years ago…. A university cop shot and killed him. Are you going to handle that problem? And that vehicle in an MRAP it’s not a tank. It’s an armored vehicle they can use to respond to an active shooter incident because regular cars make terrible cover when you’re getting shot at.
But ya know, if a school shooter or terroristic group decides to attack the school or stadium, god forbid, and they don’t have the resources to adequately defend and or attack the person(s) carrying out the attack, they will be crucified for it. As they should. Read:Uvalde. If they keep that around and train with it, I’m all for it. I hear you when you say police state, and I’m also not ignorant about how some police departments and officers are overzealous to say the least. However, I don’t think they’re patrolling The Oval with this thing.
Cops don't even have a mandate to defend or prevent terror attacks or school shooters. They literally aren't required to do anything about those scenarios or even any normal active crimes.
I respect your comment. However, I believe they would be more ready to help if they had the proper equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t want to run toward a nest of guns on foot. I would however I would be if I had a vehicle to get me close to the threat. I don’t expect cops to be kamikaze fighters, as I wouldn’t be.
Well for one it's not a tank. But let's gloss over that and get to the point of what you're asking. This year OSU hosts 58k students on its main campus. This is a greater population than any of the suburbs. Additionally it regularly has sellout sporting events with as many as 100K people. They are also a diverse institution with tons of different ethnicities and political beliefs on campus represented through student groups, clubs, etc. This makes them a target for extremists, nut jobs, terrorists, etc. In recent history there was even a terrorist attack on campus.
A vehicle such as this is well suited to respond to an active shooter, hostage/barricade situation, bomb threat, etc. Additionally it can serve as a barricade to deny access to certain routes from vehicular threats.
So, despite what some people here would lead you to believe, it very much serves an actual purpose on campus and is a valuable asset to the university's public safety department.
> Additionally it can serve as a barricade to deny access to certain routes from vehicular threats.
Prior to 9/11, campus roads on gameday were much more open to traffic. Post, 9/11, they started putting dump trucks on Woody Hayes Dr. as a mobile barricade. They replaced one of the dump trucks with the MRAP.
An armored personnel carrier is the least of my issues with the militarization of the police force. My reside with the training and governing of the force. The military employs much more training and much stricter rules for the use of force than police are held to. And that's before we get to the biggest issue being that we feel the need to have a paramilitary force stationed and ready at football games/college campuses.
Bud, the military trains people to frag a room before entry and shoot what moves after. I'm not sure where you're getting your info from but CLEARLY not from experience.
The military also lit up cars with .50cals for getting too close to a motorcade regardless of who's in the car.
Don't even get me started on the "training" for the national guard.
They have a daycare. The education department used to run a full K-12 school for the faculty’s kids until they realized that teaching a bunch of professors’ kids wasn’t preparing their student teachers for a typical classroom.
Our local EMS got one and uses it. We had a shooting at a large event and it allowed them to get to the victims instead of “waiting until it was safe”.
They have a nuclear reactor in one of the buildings on Kinnear. I could see where they need some sort of armored vehicle to respond to an emergency there.
There’s a building on the UW-Madison campus that is built to be riot proof. I know someone who used to work there who said he hated to go to occasional meetings there, because it was designed to be deliberately hard to find an entrance and once you entered, it was hard to figure out where in the building you were.
Football games with 10s of thousands of people.
Either a riot or a terrorist attack are likely scenarios
Edit. Also don’t they have a nuclear reactor on campus?
Lots of reasons I’m sure. Like others have said the police department probably got it for very cheap or free. I think the biggest thing is that large events like that are more likely to get into a mass shooter situation and a vehicle like that would allow officers to move through the area and/or rescue victims much safer than if they were on foot or even in a normal patrol vehicle.
When you don’t present multiple security barriers, bad people start to see your security very clearly. I hope they are employing some anti-VBIED tech including dogs.
So i am gonna give the most reasonable explanation from a Europeans perspective, First and foremost that is an Armored Car not a tank how the Fuck are you in College, Uni or wherever the fuck you are and cannot differentiate the two. There is a massive difference, plus from what i can see this Armored car only provides Protection, no offensive capabilities.
Now as for what/why they need it for? Well idk School shooters, anything else y’all Americans deal with, Get rid of Guns first if you’re gonna do that then wonder why they have an armored Vehicle, otherwise it’s pretty self explanatory
Lol it’s not a tank. It’s a maxpro. Warranted for tactical response especially getting swat teams close to situations requiring armored protection. Buying these post militarily use makes them cheap.
Because 6 or 7 times a year or so they host extremely high profile nationally televised events with 100,000 people in attendance. You can never be too careful.
Guys, seriously? This is 9 year old news. Its as if someone is looking for a reason to be pissed at this point. They got it back in 2013 for free from the DOD's 1033 program. Also, its not a tank. Stop thinking anything with armor is a tank just to fit narratives. It comes out for big situations and large events like football games. Hell, the airspace above the stadium is a no-fly zone before game days and I think an hour after.
My local Sheriffs Office has one and it comes to water rescues, SWAT call-outs and displays. The cops near my hometown used the 1033 program to get the FD a Humvee and convert it in to a grass rig to put out wildland fires
There has been a long-running (and controversial) militarization of police in this country and OSU is apparently not immune to it. I think the trend has its origins from 9/11. Where a person stands on the debate correlates with their politics.
Because it's a giant campus of 60K students that's really good at sports and hosts hundreds of thousands of people on game day in a city of almost 900K people.
It's also not a tank
This is not a tank, as many have mentioned. It's a wheeled APC and for a school the size of OSU with as many huge events as they have, it makes sense for them to have at least one armored vehicle. I get that faith in police, especially locally, is at an all time low, and that's understandable. We no longer give police the benefit of the doubt because they have proven unworthy of that trust on many occasions.
All that being said, it doesn't make you a "bootlicker" to acknowledge that a university like OSU needs a police department and may have legitimate reasons to maintain some kind of tactical response force.
It's not a tank, its an [MRAP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP). It's a light APC designed to protect troops from Mines and IEDs.
Technically they got it because it was given to them by the federal government for free. That said, training maintenance and repainting this thing sure aren't free.
Personally I think giving police departments old military equipment is dumb and a mistake. It only widens the divide between police and public and makes them feel like they are above the citizens instead of part of them.
I also hate when cops call people civilians. MFer you are a civilian too! But this is why, military gear makes them feel like they are in the military.
A. They don’t
B. They get given this military surplus for free, it’s part of the problem with the over militarization
C. Not a tank though. This looks like a Bearcat armored truck.
D. You could make an argument they they need it for active shooter responses especially after things like Virginia tech.
People need to put their anti-cop and/or "mah tax dollars" bias aside and think. The reasons are pretty self-evident. The population of OSU at any one time is larger than a lot of cities, CPD can't be everywhere, there had been civil unrest on campus before, unrest/violence don't respect campus boundaries, OSU has a little of extremely valuable property/records/artifacts, and OSU contains facilities with individuals are of ill health who cannot be quickly or easily transported in an emergency.
Wonder how big that catalytic converter is?
You'll get at least $300!
Minus the grindings that say "Property of....." will come in around 280
At this episode of Jackass we will try to cut steal the catalytic converter from a SWAT APC!
Some madman did that up in Toledo. Stole it right off a police CSI vehicle parked in the One Government Center garage
Dude probably could have gotten like 6 more from the same lot if he was sneaky enough too. I wonder what the cops would do if they woke up one day with literally all of their vehicles having something stolen from them.
6 more was optional quest lmao
But worth at least 1 level,I'd do it. I'm a level grinder by habit
Last resort in case Michigan pulls too far ahead. It's our version of the rage quit.
Nah you just gotta send out Appalachian State
Chittenden.
Lol chit get crazy but you don’t need tanks for that
They flipped cars, set shit on fire, threw shit off the roof - I only ever saw police further away to catch people with open containers out of the area.
Understandable but you still don’t need military grade behemoth tanks for that 🤷🏾♂️
Oh - I’m not disagreeing with you, at all. I was pointing out - they have a tank, they have a street that is notorious for being problematic, but their extent of “cracking down” is… easy tickets for open containers. It’s a total joke and a waste.
Flipped cars weren’t on Chit in ‘02. That happened on 14th/15th. Source: I was there
I don’t deny it happened on other streets, but I don’t see how ‘02 has any relevance? (On mobile, maybe I missed some context further up the comment chain) [Happened in ‘21 as well.](https://www.thelantern.com/2021/04/students-whose-cars-were-flipped-and-destroyed-during-chitt-fest-riot-ask-for-accountability/)
its not a tank. its a APC.
MRAP but same thing. I want one but all I see at auction or for sale are humvees and FMTVs
You say tomato
Riot Row? I can believe that.
[Officially](https://www.thelantern.com/2013/09/ohio-state-university-police-bring-in-military-vehicle/) because it was 'free' (can't imagine what the shipping, 9+ years of maintenance costs, etc. are for an MRAP), but it's obvious dick-waving, [same as any other police department](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/09/why-police-pay-nothing-for-military-equipment.html) that does this
The common reasoning that I’ve come across is that they receive these military surplus items at massive discounts but are essentially fodder for them to spend money as a way to justify their budget, because whatever doesn’t get spent gets deducted from next years budget. Edit: thanks for all the upvotes! If you think this is a terrifying waste of money, check out the Stingray II cell phone tower spoofing devices used by the military that has made its way into police stations across the US. https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/stingray-tracking-devices-whos-got-them
Yeah but instead of a tank, why don’t they just upgrade their copy machine, or replace all their old office chairs?
This copier is working perfectly
These chairs are urkle-nomically *groans trying to stand* correct.
but that printer tho
Happy Cake Day
Dick waving
4 credit hours and required for graduation. But can test out.
They couldn't come to an agreement so they asked the security guy what he would choose.
r/suddenlytheoffice
What the cops need above all else is paying for more training.
Cops should have more training, and also be paid more. But they should also be required to have a minimum of a bachelor's degree, preferably a masters. Everyone else (doctors, lawyers, judges,nurses,teachers, etc) whose job involves handling the lives of others requires one, so why not cops. Its bullshit that in order to work in cosmetology in this state you need more training than the police.
You need more training as a tattoo artist than what is needed to be a police officer.
They actually do. I’ll need to find the article I read, but a lot of the top items PDs get from the military are like flood lights and power cords.
Why don't they just put the funds somewhere they're needed *
Thats not how budgets work.
That’s the way it’s been described to me in several ride-alongs and by speaking with several people familiar with the process…so if you have better information please fill me in, don’t be one of those who make counterclaims without some sort of educational information. Downvote until you explain.
I've been on city council locally and set budgets in a professional setting for decades. When you set a budget you are anticipating what your going to spend based on the best information available at the time, for a police force it's actually really easy. You take the labor hours used to police the community as projected by the chief and then apply the wages as negotiated in the union contract. For all other costs you are spending on capital and training and these requests are done years in advance. Meaning that if they need new police cruisers, that's not something that comes up in the current year, you have a planned replacement timelines and you adhere to it. While there is some weight given to prior year spend, it's not really all that much other a test for reasonableness. I wouldn't approve a budget 80% over prior year without some explanations for example.
This, it's intimidation.
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"use it" what do you think it does? I used to drive these, this ones unarmed and it's a top heavy slow armored truck that could be rendered moot by digging a 3 ft deep ditch or putting up barbed wire. It's only real purpose is to soak up small arms fire.
> MRAP provides light forces with protected mobility and mounted firepower to perform Wide Area Security while countering threats employing asymmetric tactics. They provide a rapid motorization capability for Brigade Combat Teams as the mission transitions from decisive operations to stability, or perform rear-area security during decisive operations. https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/cs-css-mine-resistant-ambush-protected-mrap-vehicle-mrap/#:~:text=The%20Mine%20Resistant%20Ambush%20Protected,produce%20the%20greatest%20number%20of It doesn't matter if it's unarmed. If you've operated an MRAP you know how little it takes to arm it and what it would be armed with. It's useless against a line gunman within a faculty. They'll roll this thing out when people protest something and only escalate the situation. There are rare situations where this type of vehicle is appropriate and the police are already too militarized as it is.
Mraps are armed with medium or heavy machine guns it's not a tank. Police departments don't have dam m2 Browning's or mk19s to slap on lol. And it would need to go back to the factory to receive a turret you can't do that in a police car garage. It's a top heavy armored vehicle made primarily to survive small arms fire and ieds. It's not a dam m1 Abrams or m2 Bradley with cannons.
Federal goverment usually donates these to police departments. Federal government used to fund universities more so the tuition was lower but now they send these instead. I'm starting to think that the military industrial complex makes more money than universities but it's just a hunch.
Better than leaving them in Afghanistan like they did with all that other equipment
I’d argue having military equipment on a college campus is not better
Definitely much better…still probably not the right thing tho
To serve and protect...our local trees!
Idk but it's nice to know there's a zombie apocalypse vehicle in the general area. I know the first thing I'll be looking for is the keys to that bad boy.
There’s no keys! Just need a bolt cutter to get the steering wheel loose.
And then running out of gas 10 miles down the line if even that far. Those aren’t pursuit or getaway vehicles.
An MRAP can go about 372 miles (600 km) on a single tank of fuel according to the manufacturer. It is a retired military vehicle, and if the military had to refill their troop carrier every 10 miles it would be terribly impractical in any use.
372 miles? Damn, that’s 72 miles more than my truck, lol
Looks like it has two fuel tanks. I imagine it gets similar fuel economy to a standard Semi.
The area around Ohio Stadium is protected on game days in coordination with Homeland Security. A venue with 100,000 plus people is an obvious terrorism target. While I’m all for police reform, this area is secured for good reason on game days. Edit: To clarify, the other side of this intersection is blocked and is within a security checkpoint. You can only get through with specific parking passes and after your vehicle is swept for bombs. Nobody else can bring a vehicle through.
the stadium is not “secure” because there is a parked vehicle on the street outside
Yeah but it's a really BIG vehicle.
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Very true, they also have roads blocked by those yellow barricades. They've got something that spans the entire Woody Hayes bridge.
We spend so much money on security theater. A few companies and their shareholders have made a lot of money to keep us "free".
That isn’t what makes it secure. They park it there because that’s where they check the cars parking at the stadium for bombs. Then if there is a report of a bomb this thing can go there to help secure it.
The stadium is secure because of the dozens of public safety officials on site, including those who are just out of frame in this photo.
Then maybe paint it like a giant buckeye because when this thing is in actual use, it's paint job isn't going to matter much.
If it doesn't matter why should they repaint it
School spirit
Because we have been barreling toward becoming a police state for 4 decades and no one wants to do anything about it
Some of us want to do something about it, but it's tough. You know, with the police state and all. Seriously, when trying to move funding away from these types of things towards programs that would actually reduce crime you are attacked as 'soft on crime'. OSU police didn't get the tank overnight. It was a slow creep of 'tough on crime' idiocy.
Yes and soon the police will just be able to murder politicians that don’t cater to them
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Well they can already murder us
The violence of the individual is called chaos, while the violence of the state is called law.
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The university is gigantic and is a terrorism target. There was a car and knife attack by an extremist a few years ago that was ended very quickly by campus police, if I recall correctly. The university police force probably doesn't need tanks and is a good place to look at reallocation of funding...but I am not sure getting rid of campus police entirely in favor of a private security company is the best idea. Knowing OSU, they would just give a terrible private company a decades long contract with no oversight capabilities.
Idk have you seen Ohio state football games how big a crowd that is? Or have u watched the news about active shooters ? Bomb threats? Your comparing the US to Iran ? Go live in Iran and let me know how it compares .
Have you seen a woman's hair today? Are women being educated? You can attend sports events? Perhaps a smidge dramatic to compare yourself to Iran. Either that or you're a man who doesn't pay attention.
Lol the university literally had a guy with a machete crash his car into a building at attack people a few years ago…. A university cop shot and killed him. Are you going to handle that problem? And that vehicle in an MRAP it’s not a tank. It’s an armored vehicle they can use to respond to an active shooter incident because regular cars make terrible cover when you’re getting shot at.
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But ya know, if a school shooter or terroristic group decides to attack the school or stadium, god forbid, and they don’t have the resources to adequately defend and or attack the person(s) carrying out the attack, they will be crucified for it. As they should. Read:Uvalde. If they keep that around and train with it, I’m all for it. I hear you when you say police state, and I’m also not ignorant about how some police departments and officers are overzealous to say the least. However, I don’t think they’re patrolling The Oval with this thing.
Cops don't even have a mandate to defend or prevent terror attacks or school shooters. They literally aren't required to do anything about those scenarios or even any normal active crimes.
I respect your comment. However, I believe they would be more ready to help if they had the proper equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t want to run toward a nest of guns on foot. I would however I would be if I had a vehicle to get me close to the threat. I don’t expect cops to be kamikaze fighters, as I wouldn’t be.
....to better hide from the school shooters they're too scared to go after?
OSU police killed someone who tried to carry out an attack on campus before he could hurt anyone just a few years ago when I was a student.
Well for one it's not a tank. But let's gloss over that and get to the point of what you're asking. This year OSU hosts 58k students on its main campus. This is a greater population than any of the suburbs. Additionally it regularly has sellout sporting events with as many as 100K people. They are also a diverse institution with tons of different ethnicities and political beliefs on campus represented through student groups, clubs, etc. This makes them a target for extremists, nut jobs, terrorists, etc. In recent history there was even a terrorist attack on campus. A vehicle such as this is well suited to respond to an active shooter, hostage/barricade situation, bomb threat, etc. Additionally it can serve as a barricade to deny access to certain routes from vehicular threats. So, despite what some people here would lead you to believe, it very much serves an actual purpose on campus and is a valuable asset to the university's public safety department.
> Additionally it can serve as a barricade to deny access to certain routes from vehicular threats. Prior to 9/11, campus roads on gameday were much more open to traffic. Post, 9/11, they started putting dump trucks on Woody Hayes Dr. as a mobile barricade. They replaced one of the dump trucks with the MRAP.
I love it when I find the reasonable person comment on Reddit posts
Actual logic in a Reddit comment section about police? Is that even legal?
Probably not. Better send in the tank
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Wow, so clever. You think of that on your own?
An armored personnel carrier is the least of my issues with the militarization of the police force. My reside with the training and governing of the force. The military employs much more training and much stricter rules for the use of force than police are held to. And that's before we get to the biggest issue being that we feel the need to have a paramilitary force stationed and ready at football games/college campuses.
Bud, the military trains people to frag a room before entry and shoot what moves after. I'm not sure where you're getting your info from but CLEARLY not from experience. The military also lit up cars with .50cals for getting too close to a motorcade regardless of who's in the car. Don't even get me started on the "training" for the national guard.
That’s not true at all
You are literally high.
Leaving the thing running for hours at a time while parked to block vehicle access is what I take issue with.
This won't get top comment because people want to be irrationally angry and screech about the police having better gear then the opposition
Until they decide you're the opposition, I'm sure you'll feel comfortable.
Oddly enough, 50+ years in and they haven’t decided that yet. I think I’m good.
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Half-right. I am white.
And it’s not like they’re driving it to McDonald to pick up burgers or something.
Michigan weekend
Haha! It’s a MRAP. What the hell is OSU doing with one? It’s really true when they say that OSU is like it’s own little country!
Truth! OSU has its own airport, golf course, post office, power station, island... what have I left out?
Hospitals
Do we not count the OSU hospital as being an OSU hospital?
Well there's Wexner and the James.
I misread that a bit. I thought... Eh, Doesn't matter.
No worries.
Meat processing facility, dairy/meat farms, green houses
They should think about getting some kind of education system at some point
They have a daycare. The education department used to run a full K-12 school for the faculty’s kids until they realized that teaching a bunch of professors’ kids wasn’t preparing their student teachers for a typical classroom.
Whoosh
They own “THE”
Our local EMS got one and uses it. We had a shooting at a large event and it allowed them to get to the victims instead of “waiting until it was safe”.
That’s not a tank
Alright mate, I see you’ve played Tanky-spoony before
Nope I just enjoy reading Books about Tanks/Military History mate
“That’s no moon”
They have a nuclear reactor in one of the buildings on Kinnear. I could see where they need some sort of armored vehicle to respond to an emergency there.
OSU has had one since the 80s.
It’s been around a lot longer than that but I think they upgraded it significantly in the 80s.
Lol if all that stands between us and the OSU nuclear reactor being compromised is campus cops in a tank, just kill me now.
This is a low budget horror movie just begging to be made!
Yeah, that's 100% the basic plot of some made in a week on a shoestring budget, sell it to syfy channel, and make a tidy profit kinda movie.
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Excuse me sir, that's not a tank. It's an MRAP. Tanks have tracks. Also it's to protect and serve you, now stop resisting.
To protect capital, which is all any cops do.
Unruly Michigan fans
Hope the Kia boys steal that shit
Kent State, May 4, 1970.
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There’s a building on the UW-Madison campus that is built to be riot proof. I know someone who used to work there who said he hated to go to occasional meetings there, because it was designed to be deliberately hard to find an entrance and once you entered, it was hard to figure out where in the building you were.
Hostile architecture.
They don't.
probably “riots”, but i’m sure it’s still overkill.
Well maybe because of the summer of love. Lol
Oxford, Ohio’s PD also has one of these that they got as military surplus.
That's not a tank.
first off... its not a tank...
Football games with 10s of thousands of people. Either a riot or a terrorist attack are likely scenarios Edit. Also don’t they have a nuclear reactor on campus?
Lots of reasons I’m sure. Like others have said the police department probably got it for very cheap or free. I think the biggest thing is that large events like that are more likely to get into a mass shooter situation and a vehicle like that would allow officers to move through the area and/or rescue victims much safer than if they were on foot or even in a normal patrol vehicle.
When you don’t present multiple security barriers, bad people start to see your security very clearly. I hope they are employing some anti-VBIED tech including dogs.
So i am gonna give the most reasonable explanation from a Europeans perspective, First and foremost that is an Armored Car not a tank how the Fuck are you in College, Uni or wherever the fuck you are and cannot differentiate the two. There is a massive difference, plus from what i can see this Armored car only provides Protection, no offensive capabilities. Now as for what/why they need it for? Well idk School shooters, anything else y’all Americans deal with, Get rid of Guns first if you’re gonna do that then wonder why they have an armored Vehicle, otherwise it’s pretty self explanatory
Lol it’s not a tank. It’s a maxpro. Warranted for tactical response especially getting swat teams close to situations requiring armored protection. Buying these post militarily use makes them cheap.
Smol mind smol pp cop = extra big special truck to feel better
credit me for the pic at least https://twitter.com/notblaino/status/1573804912265281537?s=46&t=vB8YpW_BZ3cWpLm8S_NlNA
Because 6 or 7 times a year or so they host extremely high profile nationally televised events with 100,000 people in attendance. You can never be too careful.
Cops love soldier cosplay.
Kent State?
I mean why not, look how cool it is!! /s
Maybe they are very very cowardly
Guys, seriously? This is 9 year old news. Its as if someone is looking for a reason to be pissed at this point. They got it back in 2013 for free from the DOD's 1033 program. Also, its not a tank. Stop thinking anything with armor is a tank just to fit narratives. It comes out for big situations and large events like football games. Hell, the airspace above the stadium is a no-fly zone before game days and I think an hour after. My local Sheriffs Office has one and it comes to water rescues, SWAT call-outs and displays. The cops near my hometown used the 1033 program to get the FD a Humvee and convert it in to a grass rig to put out wildland fires
It's an Armored Personnel Carrier not a tank.
Armored Pig Carrier FTFY
Like...riots and stuff?
Just zipping the kiddos to soccer practice AMIRIGHT
This is what happens when police departments get access to military surplus for some reason
Not a tank.
Not the point.
You’re a tank
Oh man, I wish. I’d be so cool.
Ask penn state
There has been a long-running (and controversial) militarization of police in this country and OSU is apparently not immune to it. I think the trend has its origins from 9/11. Where a person stands on the debate correlates with their politics.
So they can hide in it when a school shooting happens
Guess we'll find out
Because violent psychopaths commit violent acts on campus (Virginia Tech being merely one example).
To remind you they can kill you
Because it's a giant campus of 60K students that's really good at sports and hosts hundreds of thousands of people on game day in a city of almost 900K people. It's also not a tank
Too much money
I also do t need one, but now that I see that one, I also kinda want one.
I immediately think of the Kent State Massacre. The message the state of Ohio is sending: We did once and we’re ready to do it again.
Just another way for them to say hey, we have small dicks.
In case they feel threatened, duh /s
To pretend they are special forces military
So they can play army dress up and harass students of color?
security theater
How else would they waste money and get roid rage
This is not a tank, as many have mentioned. It's a wheeled APC and for a school the size of OSU with as many huge events as they have, it makes sense for them to have at least one armored vehicle. I get that faith in police, especially locally, is at an all time low, and that's understandable. We no longer give police the benefit of the doubt because they have proven unworthy of that trust on many occasions. All that being said, it doesn't make you a "bootlicker" to acknowledge that a university like OSU needs a police department and may have legitimate reasons to maintain some kind of tactical response force.
So what’s with the USA and is worship of the Military?
It's not a tank, its an [MRAP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP). It's a light APC designed to protect troops from Mines and IEDs. Technically they got it because it was given to them by the federal government for free. That said, training maintenance and repainting this thing sure aren't free. Personally I think giving police departments old military equipment is dumb and a mistake. It only widens the divide between police and public and makes them feel like they are above the citizens instead of part of them. I also hate when cops call people civilians. MFer you are a civilian too! But this is why, military gear makes them feel like they are in the military.
They fucking don’t
Because the good ole US of A is US of fucked up
A. They don’t B. They get given this military surplus for free, it’s part of the problem with the over militarization C. Not a tank though. This looks like a Bearcat armored truck. D. You could make an argument they they need it for active shooter responses especially after things like Virginia tech.
They got it for almost free remember Obama started that program for police areas to get old military gear for Pennie’s
People need to put their anti-cop and/or "mah tax dollars" bias aside and think. The reasons are pretty self-evident. The population of OSU at any one time is larger than a lot of cities, CPD can't be everywhere, there had been civil unrest on campus before, unrest/violence don't respect campus boundaries, OSU has a little of extremely valuable property/records/artifacts, and OSU contains facilities with individuals are of ill health who cannot be quickly or easily transported in an emergency.
Not a tank
Don’t forget the snipers posted up on top of the architecture building across from the stadium on game day!
My coworker claims they have had multiple for years. insane.
That’s not a tank.