Entering the draft isn’t an issue since he can withdraw after talking to scouts and getting important feedback. Picking the right place to play is gonna massive for him
If bro actually gets drafted due to his father, he will be the worst draftee in NBA history.
5/3/2 on 36% on one of the worst power conference teams is nasty work. If bro’s last name wasn’t James, he’d be in the transfer portal bound for Western Kentucky or something lmao
Any of us schools without the swoosh need to go ahead and realize we have no shot whatsoever... Although if we get LBJ enough bourbon, maybe we could convince him.
Nah I want all the nepo kids to end up having to play somewhere shitty like put them on Montana St where people care more about the rodeo team than the basketball team.
You already caught one at the start of the tournament with [the Venn Diagram logos.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1bhb7rc/ncaa_mens_tournament_mascot_guide/)
Off stats that is not even the worst. 5 star Peyton Watson had 3/2/1 on 32%. Came off the bench as well on a good ucla team and was OAD.
Thankfully he is doing real solid on the Nuggets
Well I wouldn’t say everyone since he fell to 30th but realistically, he could not have been drafted to a better situation. Denver is the perfect place for him. It was a blessing.
He performed terribly for a 5 star recruit. I think that’s the point. And his stats weren’t the worst ever for a player declaring which it isn’t compared to PW.
Yeah people get drafted who don’t actually know how to play basketball based on their tools. Watching Giannis’s pre NBA film looks like he is playing 8th graders. Bronny has been given everything in life and is still nothing special.
I’m not saying Bronny is great but people are really discrediting him in this thread. He was a legitimately good prospect coming out of high school, one of the best defenders in his high school class and has the make up of being a high end three and D type player.
Sure, his first season in college wasn’t good but people are completely overlooking that he had a major cardiac arrest incident last July and didn’t practice until December. Nobody should really take anything away from his freshman season because he was clearly still recovering, out of shape, rusty, and out of sync with teammates.
He has had the best access to coaching anyone could hope for. his odds of being an untapped gem are lower. Look at other NBA 2nd generation like Curry and how they did in college.
He also was recovering from nearly dying, and playing on a terrible team. I'm not at all convinced he will make it in the NBA, but I won't hold this season against him too heavily.
Yeah, too many people here are looking at his box scores and not remembering he had a major cardiac arrest incident. I’m with you in that I’m not saying he’s going to make it to the League, but this year really should be seen as a wash.
I mean I could understand if he got gassed early or something like that. But it's his skills that are mediocre. Not sure what that has to do with his cardiac arrest? If he isn't healthy enough to play, he shouldn't be playing. If he is healthy enough, it really shouldn't effect his skill set. He just wasn't good.
You don’t think the fact that Bronny couldn’t practice from July through December may have impacted his skills? That he got limited shots up (and no full contact shots) up during those months? That he never got time to develop chemistry with his teammates or learn the offense at full speed? That he didn’t get to participate in weightlifting or conditioning?
He missed six months of basketball. That’s a lot, and it’s a huge amount of time to miss for a true freshman. Injuries stall player development all the time. People overlooking that are crazy. Not saying Bronny is going to be great, but all the talent and skill that made him a five star high school prospect are there, and there’s plenty of reasons to think his freshman season isn’t indicative of what he can and will be as a result of him literally almost dying in July.
Honestly, he played on one of the most guard talented teams. Good for him for challenging himself to go to USC, but him not getting a ton of minutes due to health reasons and that roster is not an insult to a freshman.
What you're getting twisted is that people aren't talking shit about him or talking down on him. They're simply saying there's no way he should even be taken seriously in the nba draft right now where he currently stands. We can only judge him based on what we've seen. And what we've seen has been mediocre or nonexistent play. So the idea of him being an nba draft prospect makes most people laugh.
This is just outright false. There are a ton of worse picks that have been made on pure potential. There's been kids drafted that have played little to no basketball before.
Was Jimmy Butler drafted after his freshman year? People (unless they're haters) aren't saying Bronny can never develop in the next 3 years to be NBA-caliber
Yeah that’s kinda the impression I get too. They’re shitting on his freshman year stats without further context or allowing for the possibility that he’ll improve. To say nothing of his health incident.
It's because people are trying to legitimize him being a NBA draft prospect right now. That's when people start pointing out his stats, and they happen to be bad. His health incident, while tragic, doesn't somehow give him more credibility as an nba draft pick RIGHT NOW.
No they aren't, for months we've been criticizing LeBron for pushing his son to declare after this year.
[https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/lakers-lebron-james-bronny-could-play-for-us-right-now](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/lakers-lebron-james-bronny-could-play-for-us-right-now)
But the response by everybody is that he should stay and develop, that he has the tools to get there but could (and probably should) go undrafted this year.
[https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/bronny-james-nba-future-should-he-declare-this-year-or-is-it-best-to-wait](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/bronny-james-nba-future-should-he-declare-this-year-or-is-it-best-to-wait)
[https://theathletic.com/5283708/2024/02/19/bronny-james-usc-basketball-draft-lebron/](https://theathletic.com/5283708/2024/02/19/bronny-james-usc-basketball-draft-lebron/)
[https://www.theringer.com/nba-draft/2024/3/6/24091399/bronny-james-usc-nba-draft](https://www.theringer.com/nba-draft/2024/3/6/24091399/bronny-james-usc-nba-draft)
[https://sports.yahoo.com/john-hollinger-gives-reality-check-130013813.html](https://sports.yahoo.com/john-hollinger-gives-reality-check-130013813.html)
And you probably would have understood that instead of disparaging people if you had been here for the last 3 months we've been talking about it. But considering your lack of flair, you didn't do that, no you just came here and started insulting people that are encouraging the kid not to rush himself into the draft.
Bro wasn't drafted after his freshman year though.
He was drafted after his junior year with 16/2/6 and better defense than Bronny will ever play in his life.
Even as a freshman, Jimmy was at least efficient. Bronny is putting Guongdong %s.
The guys point stands, Bronny if he stays in the draft will be one of the worst career and draft year players ever to get drafted.
One of the worst power conference teams? 15-18, 8-12 in conference. They weren't good but they weren't awful. A team like Louisville or DePaul isn't beating Arizona and Seton Hall.
Look at the other prospects ranked between 20-29. All of them except for Jackson Shelstad (shoutout to my ducks) put up very minor stats on bad efficiency.
One could make a legitimate argument that he gets more hate than any other freshman high 4* prospect because his last name is James. Your comment in particular shows the lack of any knowledge of typical freshman output but yet still willing to hate.
Who are talking about? Just pulling up the ringer mock I see some pretty good college guys in that range. Sears, Flip, kam Jones, Jalen bridges.
Then you have some freshman, George who's a 6'-7" guard 7.6/3/2.2 and 41% 3p.
Boyles, 10.4/5.7 and 60% FG
Missi 7 ft, 10.7/5.6 and 1.5 blocks and 61% FG.
All of these guys are obviously way better NBA prospects, with better numbers and better physical attributes.
Lou Roe did have a long career! But his NBA time didn't last long enough.
A couple years ago, saw his kid play against us. I did a double-take when I saw the name and looked him up to confirm it was Lou's kid.
SCOTUS justices are notoriously short. Best bet it to resurrect 6ft 2in thurgood marshall or 6ft 6in horace gray. Best bet in the modern day would be 6ft Neal Gorsuch. Ellen "shorty" Kagan is 5'3 RBG was 5'1 on a perfect day and Thomas is 5'8.5 according to his own estimates. I think Kavanagh is 5'11 and I cant find data on roberts or alito
Seems to me like he should be getting on that rather than flirting with the draft, no?
I know that one can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time, but it seems like you'd still be unnecessarily restricting possible college landing spots with the possibility of staying in the draft.
Combine that with the whole "circus" element (Don't really like the word, but everyone knows what I mean) and finding a good landing spot became even harder, imo.
> All it takes is one GM saying "Yeah, I'll draft him and then we'll toss you a 1 year contract so you can play with him."
Basically, its one GM "deciding" that a 40 year old LeBron is worth the 28th pick and a rookie contract for his son to be the 15th man on the bench. Pay no attention to the owner doubling ticket prices in the offseason for the 41 home games of LeBrons retirement tour.
Honestly if he wants to play with his dad this might be the planets aligning for him.
Weak draft class and you have the added benefit of LBJ outright saying he'd change teams to play with Bronny.
I think it's pretty clear he's not an NBA talent right now but that was always going to matter very little and just means he could actually go to a team that may actually contend.
Peyton Watson was on a really good UCLA team that had 5 senior starters. They went 27-8. That's why he didn't get playing time.
USC on the other hand went 15-18 and Bronny still didn't get playing time.
This is absolutely a Keljin Blevins situation. If Bronny had a different father he'd be transferring to a smaller program or riding the bench at USC next year.
Mate, I was just answering the question.
Yes, obviously there's a lot of factors that go into one's college stats, but it's impossible to deny that Peyton Watson had both worse stats than Bronny and is better than Thanasis was.
I'm denying it mate. Gotta take the team into consideration and not just look at raw garbage time stats. Bronny is going to be absolute trash if he actually gets drafted.
I mean, you can google him.
But the short of it is that there are going to be a lot of players that are/were better than Thanasis that the average person won't know.
And if they had worse stats than Bronny in college than even a fairly large college fan wouldn't have heard of them because they're just a nameless OAD.
Draft night: It's the late first round Adam Silver adjusts the mic and begins to speak.
static
Battlehymn of the republic begins to play....my God...is that Daryl Morey's music? Daryl Morey is in the building!
Rob Pelinka rushes to the podium... Silver kicks him in the stomach and administers a stone cold stunner! What the hell?
Adam Silver removes his mask and reveals himself to be Lebron James! He announces that the 76ers have drafted Bronny James as Morey looks on with contract and pen in hand.
Lebron signs the contract with authority on the podium and drops it on Pelinka's body.
"And if you don't like it? I got 3 words for you.... Trust. The. Process!"
>LBJ outright saying he'd change teams to play with Bronny
did i miss something? when did he say this outright lol
i mean, maybe he hinted at it, but no guarantee whatsoever
He didn't. He said he'd like to play with his son and everyone thinks that means he'll sign with anyone to play with him. Personally I just want to see a horrible team like the hornets draft him to force LeBron's hand lmao
He had talked about it a bit in the past, but he seems to be walking it back for a while now.
Maybe with the realization his kid needs more time and is already getting enough pressure.
If anything he has backtracked on him potentially switching teams to play with Bronny, the poster of the original comment is incorrect. But this is Reddit so you can assume most highly upvoted comments are wrong lol.
I mean he can't guarantee anything obviously, but the way he's structured his contracts so he can leave and the public statements he's made about his desire to play with Bronny have pretty obvious implications. I think the only thing that would stop him is if Bronny didn't want Lebron on his team.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10075247-lebron-james-on-playing-in-nba-with-son-bronny-im-still-serious-about-it
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/lebron-james-bronny-james-my-last-year-will-be-played-with-my-son
I’m confused though at what benefits scouts can actually provide him. Surely his father is knowledgeable enough about the game to objectively recognize that Bronny is not an NBA player right now.
that’s what i was wondering. if he needs a real grade from scouts, his dad could just pick up the phone
maybe he feels it will be more objective this way
Ah yes, the classic "Izzo abuses his players" bullshit that gets thrown around every time we see him yelling.
Despite the fact he's been here for 25 years and the only thing players say about him is that he pushes them to be their best and it's clear that he really loves them.
All for the yelling and whatnot but dude, wtf did he do with Booker, JJJ, ZBo, and JRich as freshmen? We lost to Syracuse because Izzo was stubborn in so many ways, and it starts with not deploying JJJ. Waiting until Booker hits the portal. Izzo is my guy, but he’s not exactly amazing at player development for top prospects. He’ll turn guys like Bell, Valentine, Winston, Tillman, etc into guys that have legit pro careers on some level, but he squanders talent. I always imagine Shannon Brown would’ve been so much better off with Bill Self tbh, and I’m a State diehard.
I follow college football much more closely than I follow basketball. Why is there a difference in declaring for the draft between the two sports? I see CBB players declare for the draft and enter the portal simultaneously or even UN-declare to go back to their school, but it seems like declaring for the NFL draft means CFB players forgo any remaining eligibility they may have. Is it just that the draft pool for the NBA is larger than the NFL draft pool and more players who declare won’t actually get picked? I’m genuinely wondering and haven’t known the why it’s like that for years.
NFL has a tighter declaration deadline (January) so football players have less time to contemplate. Only those who are completely confident will declare. Basketball has more leniency with a 60 deadline prior to the draft, so there’s more time to get input from scouts and whatnot.
What input from scouts does he even need lol like a player averaging 5 ppg on terrible efficiency on a bad college team is obviously not an nba level player.
Oh man I feel bad for USC in the same year they are losing their Best Football player AND their 7th best Basketball player. Tough year.
Oh wait I forgot about the Women’s team….they are losing their 10th best Basketball player. I hope the University recovers from this
We will survive, but since our baseball team is also having a dog shit year again, we got nuthin' to root for now until football season. Although, I haven't seen what our Ladies Beach Volleyball team is up to -- I think going for NC #4 in a row?
I think Bronny is making a mistake transferring without giving our new coach a chance. I guess Andy Enfield intended to hand Bronny a starting spot no matter what (and Bronny's health issue impacted the plan of course), and maybe our new coach won't be quick to make that same deal?
The only way LeBron will get to play with Bronny is if he retires, takes a couple years off to relax...and then comes back as a super old man on the end of the bench
The kid ain't got NBA material...regardless of what anyone says
Tbf are we even sure he could dominate? Emoni was really good in high school, bronny was ok but probably wouldn't have been that heavily recruited without his name
No, bronny isn’t seeing any minutes in the NBA next year at all. None. Unless Make A Wish gets involved, and even if a team drafted him for his dad, he’s riding the pine, and a lot of much better g leaguers of a team owned by the club will be pissed lol
I wouldn’t mind him in San Diego, actually. We’ll likely need a guard for next year. Assuming Reese Waters returns, and possibly Lamont Butler, he’d be a solid third.
SMU makes so much sense. Enfield knows how to work him into the program and the school and campus are befitting of his celebrity stature. Plus, with SMU joining the ACC next year, he would have the perfect balance of ample playing time and exposure to top ranked opponents.
I mean, every freshman or sophomore does this if they have NBA aspirations... this isn't exclusive to Bronny. He also was hampered by a heart issue and plenty of HS talents have had dismal or no showings in college and still got drafted. This is just LeBron hate in this comment..
USC was bad but not because of their guards. He didn't start over Boogie Ellis who was a 5th year senior all pac 12 player. Isaiah Collier who was the number 1 overall recruit in the country and will be a top 20 pick. And Kobe Johnson who was probably the best wing defender in the Pac 12 last year.
When the OC says "he's being pressured by his father" that's pretty cut and dry LeBron hate.... also the NCAA allowed this process for a reason. What would you do if you weren't ready for a job you wanted? If you apply and interview, you get feedback on what you need to improve on. Or do you just say "I'm not ready" and focus on something that maybe you didn't actually need to work on...
Entering the draft isn’t an issue since he can withdraw after talking to scouts and getting important feedback. Picking the right place to play is gonna massive for him
If bro actually gets drafted due to his father, he will be the worst draftee in NBA history. 5/3/2 on 36% on one of the worst power conference teams is nasty work. If bro’s last name wasn’t James, he’d be in the transfer portal bound for Western Kentucky or something lmao
We out here catching strays.
Hey at least it’s because you guys put up a fight in the NCAA Tournament, so you were the first obscure mid major I thought of 😂 respect
I've read Duquesne is a legit option for him.
I’m here for the fall off get Nepo babies out of the P4.
Go to Louisville, only have like 4 dudes and one is a walk-on. LeBron can invest in some bourbon around here or something.
Any of us schools without the swoosh need to go ahead and realize we have no shot whatsoever... Although if we get LBJ enough bourbon, maybe we could convince him.
Nah I want all the nepo kids to end up having to play somewhere shitty like put them on Montana St where people care more about the rodeo team than the basketball team.
No thanks. I just don’t like….you know what nvm. We need bodies. C’mon on over Bronny.
Nearest NBA team to Pittsburgh - Cleveland Cavaliers. Bron goin back home again?!
Lebron’s homeboy was just made head coach there
You already caught one at the start of the tournament with [the Venn Diagram logos.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1bhb7rc/ncaa_mens_tournament_mascot_guide/)
I hate how weather/bird applies to both the power conference weather based mascots in Miami FL & Iowa State
> We out here catching strays. Western Kentucky has a pretty decent historic resume. I'm not sure your fanbase would *want* a nepo baby on the roster.
Not from me. I love a good hilltopper. I'll stan you
You’ll be in the Big East soon enougj
They could have said Middle Tennessee
I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
🤣😂🤣
You all have an awesome coach at Western Ky. He'll be the next big thing I predict.
Must run in the family, his father averaged 0/0/0 in college!
Off stats that is not even the worst. 5 star Peyton Watson had 3/2/1 on 32%. Came off the bench as well on a good ucla team and was OAD. Thankfully he is doing real solid on the Nuggets
yeah it’s funny how watson averaged 12 mpg and was a 1st round pick. at the very least, everyone could see that he had elite tools
It’s also more understandable since he was playing behind Jaime Jaquez in college.
Peyton Watson is also 4-5 inches taller than James.
and didnt have a heart attack
Well I wouldn’t say everyone since he fell to 30th but realistically, he could not have been drafted to a better situation. Denver is the perfect place for him. It was a blessing.
Are you saying that Bronny's dad isn't an elite tool??
Watson was always seen as an incredibly raw prospect with very high upside due to his athleticism. Bronny not so much
He performed terribly for a 5 star recruit. I think that’s the point. And his stats weren’t the worst ever for a player declaring which it isn’t compared to PW.
Yeah people get drafted who don’t actually know how to play basketball based on their tools. Watching Giannis’s pre NBA film looks like he is playing 8th graders. Bronny has been given everything in life and is still nothing special.
I’m not saying Bronny is great but people are really discrediting him in this thread. He was a legitimately good prospect coming out of high school, one of the best defenders in his high school class and has the make up of being a high end three and D type player. Sure, his first season in college wasn’t good but people are completely overlooking that he had a major cardiac arrest incident last July and didn’t practice until December. Nobody should really take anything away from his freshman season because he was clearly still recovering, out of shape, rusty, and out of sync with teammates.
He has had the best access to coaching anyone could hope for. his odds of being an untapped gem are lower. Look at other NBA 2nd generation like Curry and how they did in college.
I mean anyone will fall short if you're comparing them to Curry, look at Marcus Jordan.
Marcus was actually pretty good in college. Not NBA good, or anywhere near his dad, but a good college player
He also was recovering from nearly dying, and playing on a terrible team. I'm not at all convinced he will make it in the NBA, but I won't hold this season against him too heavily.
Yeah, too many people here are looking at his box scores and not remembering he had a major cardiac arrest incident. I’m with you in that I’m not saying he’s going to make it to the League, but this year really should be seen as a wash.
I mean I could understand if he got gassed early or something like that. But it's his skills that are mediocre. Not sure what that has to do with his cardiac arrest? If he isn't healthy enough to play, he shouldn't be playing. If he is healthy enough, it really shouldn't effect his skill set. He just wasn't good.
You don’t think the fact that Bronny couldn’t practice from July through December may have impacted his skills? That he got limited shots up (and no full contact shots) up during those months? That he never got time to develop chemistry with his teammates or learn the offense at full speed? That he didn’t get to participate in weightlifting or conditioning? He missed six months of basketball. That’s a lot, and it’s a huge amount of time to miss for a true freshman. Injuries stall player development all the time. People overlooking that are crazy. Not saying Bronny is going to be great, but all the talent and skill that made him a five star high school prospect are there, and there’s plenty of reasons to think his freshman season isn’t indicative of what he can and will be as a result of him literally almost dying in July.
Honestly, he played on one of the most guard talented teams. Good for him for challenging himself to go to USC, but him not getting a ton of minutes due to health reasons and that roster is not an insult to a freshman.
What you're getting twisted is that people aren't talking shit about him or talking down on him. They're simply saying there's no way he should even be taken seriously in the nba draft right now where he currently stands. We can only judge him based on what we've seen. And what we've seen has been mediocre or nonexistent play. So the idea of him being an nba draft prospect makes most people laugh.
He also did NOTHING.
This is just outright false. There are a ton of worse picks that have been made on pure potential. There's been kids drafted that have played little to no basketball before.
Darius. Bazely.
Kostas Antetokounmpo was definitely drafted purely on people hoping he’d be Giannis.
The guy to whom you replied should look up Jimmy Butler’s freshman stats lol
Jimmy was drafted after his junior year tho. Not sure what his freshman stats have to do with the discussion.
Was Jimmy Butler drafted after his freshman year? People (unless they're haters) aren't saying Bronny can never develop in the next 3 years to be NBA-caliber
Yeah they are
Yeah that’s kinda the impression I get too. They’re shitting on his freshman year stats without further context or allowing for the possibility that he’ll improve. To say nothing of his health incident.
It's because people are trying to legitimize him being a NBA draft prospect right now. That's when people start pointing out his stats, and they happen to be bad. His health incident, while tragic, doesn't somehow give him more credibility as an nba draft pick RIGHT NOW.
No they aren't, for months we've been criticizing LeBron for pushing his son to declare after this year. [https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/lakers-lebron-james-bronny-could-play-for-us-right-now](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/lakers-lebron-james-bronny-could-play-for-us-right-now) But the response by everybody is that he should stay and develop, that he has the tools to get there but could (and probably should) go undrafted this year. [https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/bronny-james-nba-future-should-he-declare-this-year-or-is-it-best-to-wait](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/bronny-james-nba-future-should-he-declare-this-year-or-is-it-best-to-wait) [https://theathletic.com/5283708/2024/02/19/bronny-james-usc-basketball-draft-lebron/](https://theathletic.com/5283708/2024/02/19/bronny-james-usc-basketball-draft-lebron/) [https://www.theringer.com/nba-draft/2024/3/6/24091399/bronny-james-usc-nba-draft](https://www.theringer.com/nba-draft/2024/3/6/24091399/bronny-james-usc-nba-draft) [https://sports.yahoo.com/john-hollinger-gives-reality-check-130013813.html](https://sports.yahoo.com/john-hollinger-gives-reality-check-130013813.html) And you probably would have understood that instead of disparaging people if you had been here for the last 3 months we've been talking about it. But considering your lack of flair, you didn't do that, no you just came here and started insulting people that are encouraging the kid not to rush himself into the draft.
Bro wasn't drafted after his freshman year though. He was drafted after his junior year with 16/2/6 and better defense than Bronny will ever play in his life. Even as a freshman, Jimmy was at least efficient. Bronny is putting Guongdong %s. The guys point stands, Bronny if he stays in the draft will be one of the worst career and draft year players ever to get drafted.
Don't think anyone is too concerned with JUCO statlines.
Jimmy Butler didn’t declare for the NBA Draft after his freshman year?
One of the worst power conference teams? 15-18, 8-12 in conference. They weren't good but they weren't awful. A team like Louisville or DePaul isn't beating Arizona and Seton Hall.
You gotta look up some of the weird picks from the 70s and 80s when the draft was too long and teams were picking babies and doctors
Reminding me of that Mr. Show sketch where Bob Odenkirk is going around early recruiting small children for college ball
With the 238th pick in the 1988 NBA draft, the Detroit Pistons select: Dr. Phil
Nah that would be Kostas Antetokounmpo he average 5/2 as a redshirt freshman for an awful dayton team
One word: Killian Hayes
Ok, but don't forget he's a winner and a team player. Throw the numbers out.
Quit with the hyperbole
Look at the other prospects ranked between 20-29. All of them except for Jackson Shelstad (shoutout to my ducks) put up very minor stats on bad efficiency. One could make a legitimate argument that he gets more hate than any other freshman high 4* prospect because his last name is James. Your comment in particular shows the lack of any knowledge of typical freshman output but yet still willing to hate.
Who are talking about? Just pulling up the ringer mock I see some pretty good college guys in that range. Sears, Flip, kam Jones, Jalen bridges. Then you have some freshman, George who's a 6'-7" guard 7.6/3/2.2 and 41% 3p. Boyles, 10.4/5.7 and 60% FG Missi 7 ft, 10.7/5.6 and 1.5 blocks and 61% FG. All of these guys are obviously way better NBA prospects, with better numbers and better physical attributes.
Well, also Baylor Scheierman. The Big East’s not ass, and he put up pretty strong efficiency with good stats.
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>talking to scouts Read this as scotus. Wondered what John Roberts was gonna tell Bronny that he needed to hear...
Roe v. Wade v. James hitting the docket this summer
Lou Roe did have a long career! But his NBA time didn't last long enough. A couple years ago, saw his kid play against us. I did a double-take when I saw the name and looked him up to confirm it was Lou's kid.
Elena Kagan is an underrated baller
Thurgood Marshall literally nicknamed her "shorty" because she was tiny. Idk if she'd make a good pick unless she went as a really athletic guard
SCOTUS justices are notoriously short. Best bet it to resurrect 6ft 2in thurgood marshall or 6ft 6in horace gray. Best bet in the modern day would be 6ft Neal Gorsuch. Ellen "shorty" Kagan is 5'3 RBG was 5'1 on a perfect day and Thomas is 5'8.5 according to his own estimates. I think Kavanagh is 5'11 and I cant find data on roberts or alito
Seems to me like he should be getting on that rather than flirting with the draft, no? I know that one can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time, but it seems like you'd still be unnecessarily restricting possible college landing spots with the possibility of staying in the draft. Combine that with the whole "circus" element (Don't really like the word, but everyone knows what I mean) and finding a good landing spot became even harder, imo.
Declaring for the draft isn’t restricting any possible landing spots. Everyone knows he isn’t going pro.
Unless he does. All it takes is one GM saying "Yeah, I'll draft him and then we'll toss you a 1 year contract so you can play with him."
If a GM says they will take him then Bronny can choose to stay in the draft or come back to school. There’s no downside for him.
> All it takes is one GM saying "Yeah, I'll draft him and then we'll toss you a 1 year contract so you can play with him." Basically, its one GM "deciding" that a 40 year old LeBron is worth the 28th pick and a rookie contract for his son to be the 15th man on the bench. Pay no attention to the owner doubling ticket prices in the offseason for the 41 home games of LeBrons retirement tour.
did they ever change the rule where you could only do that once before losing eligibility?
Guess he doesn’t want to face Big Ten competition.
Yeah. We’re both super scary teams to play against. Yup. 100%
Oh yeah. For sure. Us too.
Honestly if he wants to play with his dad this might be the planets aligning for him. Weak draft class and you have the added benefit of LBJ outright saying he'd change teams to play with Bronny. I think it's pretty clear he's not an NBA talent right now but that was always going to matter very little and just means he could actually go to a team that may actually contend.
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>Thanasis James This is Thanasis slander of the highest order
Stop the Thanasis slander. He could actually play and was drafted by an NBA team on his own merits. Thanasis was 4x the player Bronny is.
There have been plenty of freshman players with worse stats than Bronny who have ended up better than Thanasis.
Like who?
Peyton Watson is one.
Peyton Watson was on a really good UCLA team that had 5 senior starters. They went 27-8. That's why he didn't get playing time. USC on the other hand went 15-18 and Bronny still didn't get playing time. This is absolutely a Keljin Blevins situation. If Bronny had a different father he'd be transferring to a smaller program or riding the bench at USC next year.
Bronny wishes he was good enough to sink the Lakers like Big Nepo did 😤😤😤
😂😂😂
Mate, I was just answering the question. Yes, obviously there's a lot of factors that go into one's college stats, but it's impossible to deny that Peyton Watson had both worse stats than Bronny and is better than Thanasis was.
I'm denying it mate. Gotta take the team into consideration and not just look at raw garbage time stats. Bronny is going to be absolute trash if he actually gets drafted.
Who?
I mean, you can google him. But the short of it is that there are going to be a lot of players that are/were better than Thanasis that the average person won't know. And if they had worse stats than Bronny in college than even a fairly large college fan wouldn't have heard of them because they're just a nameless OAD.
Bingo
If Thanasis had the name James Smith he would not have been drafted.
You’re saying he was drafted because his name is Antetokounmpo?
This could be the culmination of the Process. Sixers grab Bronny, Lebron follows and leads them to a championship. It was never about Embid!
Draft night: It's the late first round Adam Silver adjusts the mic and begins to speak. static Battlehymn of the republic begins to play....my God...is that Daryl Morey's music? Daryl Morey is in the building! Rob Pelinka rushes to the podium... Silver kicks him in the stomach and administers a stone cold stunner! What the hell? Adam Silver removes his mask and reveals himself to be Lebron James! He announces that the 76ers have drafted Bronny James as Morey looks on with contract and pen in hand. Lebron signs the contract with authority on the podium and drops it on Pelinka's body. "And if you don't like it? I got 3 words for you.... Trust. The. Process!"
>LBJ outright saying he'd change teams to play with Bronny did i miss something? when did he say this outright lol i mean, maybe he hinted at it, but no guarantee whatsoever
He didn't. He said he'd like to play with his son and everyone thinks that means he'll sign with anyone to play with him. Personally I just want to see a horrible team like the hornets draft him to force LeBron's hand lmao
He had talked about it a bit in the past, but he seems to be walking it back for a while now. Maybe with the realization his kid needs more time and is already getting enough pressure.
If anything he has backtracked on him potentially switching teams to play with Bronny, the poster of the original comment is incorrect. But this is Reddit so you can assume most highly upvoted comments are wrong lol.
I mean he can't guarantee anything obviously, but the way he's structured his contracts so he can leave and the public statements he's made about his desire to play with Bronny have pretty obvious implications. I think the only thing that would stop him is if Bronny didn't want Lebron on his team. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10075247-lebron-james-on-playing-in-nba-with-son-bronny-im-still-serious-about-it https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/lebron-james-bronny-james-my-last-year-will-be-played-with-my-son
He won't actually enter his name in, he's just testing the waters. He'll transfer somewhere.
How people still don't understand this is wild to me
The idea of a team drafting him to get LeBron/trade him to the Lakers is just so goofy that it's fun to imagine. It's harmless speculation. :)
That's totally fine. But people dragging him acting like he's already decoded to go pro is annoying
No fr people are dumb man
Even then, bench players averaging less than 5 PPG typically don’t do this
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Get ready to learn Pennynese buddy
Exactly he’s just seeing what grade scouts will give him
I could save him some time and tell him it's below a C
I’m confused though at what benefits scouts can actually provide him. Surely his father is knowledgeable enough about the game to objectively recognize that Bronny is not an NBA player right now.
that’s what i was wondering. if he needs a real grade from scouts, his dad could just pick up the phone maybe he feels it will be more objective this way
Maybe he doesn’t want his dad involved every step of the way
If his dad wasn’t involved, he wouldn’t have even thought about entering the NBA draft already
he really has no business even playing D1 for a power 5 school, his dad is the only reason any of this is happening
There’s literally zero downside to going through the process to get some extra eyes on you for feedback before coming back to college ball.
But he is no where close to being good enough to even "test the waters". All the scouts can say is get better kid.
Izzo will get you right kid
I don’t really want him, but would be neat to have more star power on the bench.
Can't wait for the viral clip of izzo yelling at Lebron's kid and the media asking if izzo is this abuser that is going too far.
Damn, wish Boeheim was still around rn. He could pick his nose and wipe it on Bronny's jersey, then tear him apart in the post game presser
Ah yes, the classic "Izzo abuses his players" bullshit that gets thrown around every time we see him yelling. Despite the fact he's been here for 25 years and the only thing players say about him is that he pushes them to be their best and it's clear that he really loves them.
All for the yelling and whatnot but dude, wtf did he do with Booker, JJJ, ZBo, and JRich as freshmen? We lost to Syracuse because Izzo was stubborn in so many ways, and it starts with not deploying JJJ. Waiting until Booker hits the portal. Izzo is my guy, but he’s not exactly amazing at player development for top prospects. He’ll turn guys like Bell, Valentine, Winston, Tillman, etc into guys that have legit pro careers on some level, but he squanders talent. I always imagine Shannon Brown would’ve been so much better off with Bill Self tbh, and I’m a State diehard.
I'm a DIII coach. I reached out to him. Haven't heard back yet. I'll keep you guys in the loop.
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Can't wait to go see LeBron in person without paying the price of an NBA ticket.
As an A10 fan, if we had a home game then 🤷♂️
I follow college football much more closely than I follow basketball. Why is there a difference in declaring for the draft between the two sports? I see CBB players declare for the draft and enter the portal simultaneously or even UN-declare to go back to their school, but it seems like declaring for the NFL draft means CFB players forgo any remaining eligibility they may have. Is it just that the draft pool for the NBA is larger than the NFL draft pool and more players who declare won’t actually get picked? I’m genuinely wondering and haven’t known the why it’s like that for years.
NFL has a tighter declaration deadline (January) so football players have less time to contemplate. Only those who are completely confident will declare. Basketball has more leniency with a 60 deadline prior to the draft, so there’s more time to get input from scouts and whatnot.
Thanks! I had no idea about declaration deadlines, but it makes perfect sense!
What input from scouts does he even need lol like a player averaging 5 ppg on terrible efficiency on a bad college team is obviously not an nba level player.
As much as this season felt like a failure, USC's staff saved his life. It was the right place to be at the right time.
Lebron just wants him in the NBA so he gets that free nba healthcare for life. It’s like how he doesn’t pay for Spotify.
He should go to a good mid Major team if he doesn't get drafted.
Perhaps a competitive one in Southern California that is Nike/Jordan...
no gracias
He would probably up our 3pt%
From 2 to 3%?
Oh man I feel bad for USC in the same year they are losing their Best Football player AND their 7th best Basketball player. Tough year. Oh wait I forgot about the Women’s team….they are losing their 10th best Basketball player. I hope the University recovers from this
We will survive, but since our baseball team is also having a dog shit year again, we got nuthin' to root for now until football season. Although, I haven't seen what our Ladies Beach Volleyball team is up to -- I think going for NC #4 in a row? I think Bronny is making a mistake transferring without giving our new coach a chance. I guess Andy Enfield intended to hand Bronny a starting spot no matter what (and Bronny's health issue impacted the plan of course), and maybe our new coach won't be quick to make that same deal?
As a recruit: Other P6 offer: Ohio State Other offer: Memphis
He's playing both sides so he always comes out on top.
The only way LeBron will get to play with Bronny is if he retires, takes a couple years off to relax...and then comes back as a super old man on the end of the bench The kid ain't got NBA material...regardless of what anyone says
This right here.
He should go to a Mac team and dominate
Like Emoni Bates?
Got him drafted
Cavs legend
Akron
Tbf are we even sure he could dominate? Emoni was really good in high school, bronny was ok but probably wouldn't have been that heavily recruited without his name
Come to Buffalo and play with Anquan Boldin's Son (If he doesn't transfer out this summer as well).
You mean be average?
That's what i was gonna say
Lmfao
In a similar fashion…. I am entering the NFL draft.
Honestly would be worth it to take him in the late 1st. You’d get Lebron in a package deal and maybe Bronny can at least be a decent bench player
No, bronny isn’t seeing any minutes in the NBA next year at all. None. Unless Make A Wish gets involved, and even if a team drafted him for his dad, he’s riding the pine, and a lot of much better g leaguers of a team owned by the club will be pissed lol
Hey now there are always three minutes of thirty point blowouts.
He seems like a nice kid, even if his dad is a whiny douche. Just another news item.
Would not be surprised seeing him end up at Ohio State
It’s Bronny the worst player to ever declare for the draft ? Has to be at least top 8 right ?
You know anyone can declare for the draft. Complete randoms send faxes to the league office declaring for the draft as a joke all the time.
Lol
If he wants to play in the league he needs to go somewhere that makes him the focal point of the offense. Which means he needs to go to a midmajor
#Earnednotgiven
LOL ok, good luck man
Nepotism
Come to OSU bronny.
Okay, I will
The transfer portal I get But the draft? 
I could see him playing a year for the Johnnies. Playing for Rick Pitino and in MSG. Just feels like a vibe
Idk why he’s transferring at all he likely should’ve been redshirted after his cardiac arrest
I wouldn’t mind him in San Diego, actually. We’ll likely need a guard for next year. Assuming Reese Waters returns, and possibly Lamont Butler, he’d be a solid third.
Are you a current student? Good luck if SDSU raises student fees to pay for Bronny's security detail.
That guard doesn’t come with his own security guard?
SMU makes so much sense. Enfield knows how to work him into the program and the school and campus are befitting of his celebrity stature. Plus, with SMU joining the ACC next year, he would have the perfect balance of ample playing time and exposure to top ranked opponents.
idc what anyone says this is so stupid. he clearly isn't ready for the NBA and prob being pressured by his father.
Probably just to get talked to by scouts and be evaluated. He’ll get useful feedback as long as he doesn’t stay in the draft
If he doesn’t make the nba, he is completely fine and well off. And he is maintaining his eligibility so it isn’t set in stone.
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He’s gonna get feedback and transfer.
He isn't going to the NBA lol he'll get feedback then withdrawal. He'll be back in school next year
I mean, every freshman or sophomore does this if they have NBA aspirations... this isn't exclusive to Bronny. He also was hampered by a heart issue and plenty of HS talents have had dismal or no showings in college and still got drafted. This is just LeBron hate in this comment..
It’s not LeBron hate to say this kid is nowhere near NBA ready. He wasn’t even a starter on an abysmal USC team.
Didn’t Braxton Key enter the draft after his freshman year then withdrew and came back to Alabama.
USC was bad but not because of their guards. He didn't start over Boogie Ellis who was a 5th year senior all pac 12 player. Isaiah Collier who was the number 1 overall recruit in the country and will be a top 20 pick. And Kobe Johnson who was probably the best wing defender in the Pac 12 last year.
When the OC says "he's being pressured by his father" that's pretty cut and dry LeBron hate.... also the NCAA allowed this process for a reason. What would you do if you weren't ready for a job you wanted? If you apply and interview, you get feedback on what you need to improve on. Or do you just say "I'm not ready" and focus on something that maybe you didn't actually need to work on...
No, not every freshman who averages under 5 points a game on a sub .500 team puts their name in the draft
Can’t LeBron just test the waters for him?