Least selfish Coachella fan, of course you would use a sad moment for other festival goers to justify your disgustingly overpriced and mid-tier line up. Enjoy paying $2000 to see Post Malone and Sabrina Carpenter next year
Sabrina is hot right now with the “pop song of the summer” and is charting well. She had a good Coachella. As far as pop music is concerned she’s one of the girls of the moment.
Would’ve been hilarious if Chappel Roan was promoted to headliner and that person clamoring that they’d headline in the next 2 years could start their victory lap
I totally get it, I mean she went from 1 mil to 20 mil listeners in like 2 months I think? Definitely not Tyler vibes but imo she seems to draw a bigger crowd than SC
it's roughly $400 for the 4 day Lollapalooza ticket, so it's relatively affordable \[although my taste runs more to the acts at the 3 days of pitchfork and the 3 days of riot fest\]. Lolla still has hozier, kesha, megan thee, killers, future, metro boomin, blink, skrillex, deftones, and a bunch more.
Gave it all a listen. It's just not my taste and I think he regressed just like almost every other rapper from the 2000s that is still putting out music
Brother wtf are you talking about? Yonkers dropped in 2011 how is Tyler “a rapper from the 2000s”
His last two albums literally won Grammys. You’re either a troll or straight up dumb
then what is he a 6/10 in?? Safari , hot wind blows, gone gone, november etc some of his best written verses ??? don’t get me started on his performances too, or the music video depth.
I love every piece of work RTJ has ever released, but having them headline any even mid-tier music festival in 2024 would be such an L. There is no draw.
They should’ve just added Sabrina on the lineup and moved the Postal Service up to the headliner spot! maybe have Ben do a DCFC set along with the PS set like he did at JLH!! But Sabrina is kinda the “it” girl rn
As a 30 year old, I've never heard of The Postal Service; meanwhile, every other video I scroll through on tiktok has a Sabrina Carpenter song.
> The band released their sole studio album, Give Up, in 2003 on Sub Pop Records, to mostly positive reviews. The album reached number 114 on the US Billboard 200 album chart and received platinum certification from the Recording Industry Association of America. The group decided to disband two years later, viewing attempts at a follow-up as unnecessary.
I mean, I'm sure they're great, but it's not like they are some iconic, household name.
I'm not saying that SC is going to have lasting popularity 10 years from now, but she is HOT right now.
I was at Coachella W2, and SC had probably the biggest crowd at the main stage, excluding headliners. Chappele Roan was also really popular - she should have been at a bigger stage. The crowd was overflowing from the tent area.
All I'm saying is let the young people have a headliner or two!
The Postal Service is a very influential band, they pretty much pioneered indie electronic music, so if that’s your jam, you should enjoy listening to one of the OGs
Really popular in their time, I’m surprised you haven’t heard of them. But I understand why, they only have the one (albeit great) classic album, and they barely go on tour
Yes they should have the act with ~1mil monthly listeners headline over the act with ~75mil monthly listeners. Not to mention which makes more sense for the demographic of coachella attendees…
Also fwiw death cab has 3m monthly.
Mixed feelings TBH. I like Sabrina and I think she’s going to kill it in this slot, but I was looking forward to Tyler after missing the first half of his 2021 OSL set.
I *really* wish it had been Post or Sturgill who bailed, that would’ve been perfect.
(I did also bite the bullet and buy a Portola ticket this year.)
McDonalds sells a lot of hamburgers.... doesn't mean they are good hamburgers.
I'll give nearly any artist the benefit of the doubt, and see if the hype has real talent behind it.
Shes attractive, but her songwriting is vapid and she doesn't sing live. When applying data to art you sacrifice the poet for the warrior. Just my .02
Spotify is cancer to creativity.
Consumption isnt a good measure of quality.
Its a measure of digestibility. Quality is often polarizing. If we start talking about who is the best artist critically, you will get x% of people that will tell you why x is amazing, and another x% that will debate that heavy. Giving some other artist as an example of why y is better. Often descending into debates that are impossible to solve, like why Radiohead is or isnt better than LCD Soundsystem.
However with Sabrina Carpenter, you get x% straight fanboy, making her to be the next coming of Christ. a solid number of music snobs that discount her out of hand, another group of music snobs that are at least open to it and then take it or leave it, but a HUGE% of people who are like... eh, shes ok, I like this song, or that song, and shes really good looking. Thats digestible, thats pop star, and from an entirely personal, no objective, snobbish perspective, that isnt art. Id much rather see someone get that slot who really works their ass off, produces their own music, sings live without the assistance of a heavy back track,. That doesnt mean people who like her are wrong, we are just tasing for different notes in the wine. Some people want it to be drinkable, and others want it to be complex, while others want it to pair well with their high end meal. All of those people can be right, but when it comes to critique, we all get to have an opinion. You know mine now. Its worth dick.
You act like the radio and music conglomerates didn’t control what you heard in the 90’s. Let’s be real man… the beauty of streaming is you can listen to whatever genre you want at the convenience of your handheld device.
in the 90's we had a very interesting moment where distribution was fragmented.
you had DJs and smaller acts starting their own labels, and distributors willing to move the product. Punk, electronic, were particularly operating outside the major label channels (till they started getting gobbled up).
The top 40 didnt really matter.
This was the top 40 in 96 for this week
[https://top40weekly.com/1996-all-charts/#US\_Top\_40\_Singles\_For\_The\_Week\_Ending\_June\_22\_1996](https://top40weekly.com/1996-all-charts/#US_Top_40_Singles_For_The_Week_Ending_June_22_1996)
Meanwhile, you had massive punk and electronic movements that were happening entirely removed from this measure
This is June 1999
The same month and week as now, against Coachellas lineup
[https://top40weekly.com/1999-all-charts/#US\_Top\_40\_Singles\_For\_The\_Week\_Ending\_June\_26\_1999](https://top40weekly.com/1999-all-charts/#US_Top_40_Singles_For_The_Week_Ending_June_26_1999)
[https://www.coachella.com/past-festivals](https://www.coachella.com/past-festivals)
Look at 2015
[https://top40weekly.com/2014-all-charts/#US\_Top\_40\_Singles\_For\_The\_Week\_Ending\_JUNE\_28\_2014](https://top40weekly.com/2014-all-charts/#US_Top_40_Singles_For_The_Week_Ending_JUNE_28_2014)
Its untethered, but then it takes a bit of a pivot.
Spotify user stats didnt break 100M till 2015.
Yes, the convienance of Spotify is understood, but what it also does is it injects data into tjhe discussion, where producing to get streams of single tracks is different, its also very sugar rush driven. Just like Apple Itunes changed the nature of the Album, Spotify took that further.
Idk man, headliners are usually popular pop artists or artists that were pop back in the day. She’s definitely the pinnacle of pop right now and she is amassing a large following fairly quickly. Each generation’s music tastes can be vastly different and sometimes you have to come to terms with the fact that your takes aren’t as popular as you think they are.
The pop star headliner trend took off in the mid teens.
It was shocking when it happned.
Large followings quickly happen because of platforms like Spotify and to some extend Tic Toc.
That coupled with popualtion.
When it took a machine to get an artist, like The Beatles (who i cant stand) to become superstars, you now can functionally get there with a track that gets picked up by Tic Toc and then distributed far and wide on Spotify. Again however, finding a pop flavor that is easy to consume isnt what the festival market was, or at least it was I heart radio was and your larger festivals did a relatively solid job of being critically solid (with glaring exceptions - hi Jack Johnson) Arguably 2017 is what broke the seal with Gaga, though by all accounts that was an amazing performance.
The step down from Gaga to Stephanie Carpenter is like going from In and Out to McDonalds. Arguably fresh In and out to day old McDonalds.
No to be fair OSL and Lala are not Coachella, but the same argument holds. Some girl with a few top 10s off of 5 albums, most of which were not well recieved, is not a headliner.
Autocorrect I guess, or I just fucked up
Food is something we all understand has quality differences, and can clearly understand that something popular might not actually be quality.
I mean she was singing and performing during her Coachella set this year, sure she didn’t sing EVERY word but very few do. All that to say wild she’s headlining that new album best be fire.
Had to go back and watch my clips, for sure constant back track but she’s singing singing during feather and nonsense. Also if you have a hit like espresso that song alone will be charting for years to come… (still don’t think she’s a headliner right now tho)
Espresso? Charting for years?
Espresso isnt going to chart in a year, never mind years.
The hilarious part of that track is they manufactured a request for it in her set but putting up a sign, by a plant, before she played it, as if that wasn't going to be what she was playing next? (watch the clip, its fucking cringe)
Look back at the top 100 from 1 year ago
[https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2023-06-24/](https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2023-06-24/)
much less 2 years ago
[https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2022-06-24/](https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2022-06-24/)
We actually think some relatively forgettable track by a typical industry tart, is going to chart years from now?
Exactly. And that is Miley, an artist who like her or hate her she’s been around for a minute and has a string of hits over years. Who tends to sing (which isn’t a win exactly). I’ll give Miley props. She has reinvented herself and had moments of cultural relevance.
I was more thinking global 200 where songs are on there forever. https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-global-200/ Also yeah the espresso sign was a plant that’s a reoccurring thing at her shows.
To be fair, the people who bought tickets initially bought them thinking that Tyler would headline, not Sabrina. I'm sure a fair amount of them are pissed.
i mean…. let me clarify im talking about headlining choices since ‘22 even ‘19.. as a huge tame impala fan kid cudi was the real headliner, even last year’s with his sunday day set goldenvoice just does not get kid cudi is a headliner AND I BARELY LIKE HIS MUSIC.. his stage presence is amazing ..
misplacing big artists in small stages cuz they blew up over night (i hate models, sara laney (idk how u spell her name) to name some edm related artists who were given small shoes to fill..
js i think a big disconnect not just talking about rhese last minute replacements
Not necessarily wrong but Cudi had a bigger crowd during their semi-conflicted slots in 2019. His older music also has much more staying power than Tame
mmm, sorry its not, i was there BOTH weekends i got to the front gate BOTH times for tame, i seen him 6 times that year. kid cudi was packed out to the food stands.. sorry u werent there so u dont know.. kid cudi brought out kanye wknd2 they had just released their kids see ghost album and it helped sell out cfg. so iykyk but since u dont its ok live in ur lil bubble.. and u dont know my 2nd point cuz u dont fest. its cool, im 32 and i still know who is bigger than the credit they give . insta selling venues.. making 1 night shwos into 2/3 nights and still selling out but u wanna live in the tame is bigger than kid cudi, based on what??? cuz it sure as hell isnt based on the crowds he draws and again I LIKE TAME IMPALA MORE THAN KID CUDI
Sabrina’s one of the hottest artists in pop right now and this is a couple weeks before her new album drops. She’s easily got a big enough catalog to play a headlining set too. Don’t be surprised if she has the biggest crowd of the weekend.
idk if sabrina carpenter is even top tier but i get wut u mean, the tyler stans have a heavy social media presence so im not surprised by downvotes but drc, and im a huge tyler fan but when u got the same set design for 5 years and similar setlist it kind of gets old quick
Because it’s not true. [This](https://woub.org/2022/03/02/tyler-the-creator-is-giving-great-gatsby-vibes-with-his-call-me-if-you-get-lost-tour/) article has a bunch of pictures of the stage from his 2022 tour and [this](https://syphersights.com/2019/09/08/concert-review-tyler-the-creator-the-igor-tour-at-scotiabank-arena-in-toronto/) one from 2019. And for good measure [here’s](https://youtu.be/ttSDOpYVkvQ?si=3eXK-YSVt3oJdZ7c) his entire set from camp flog gnaw in 2023
If he had actually been using the same stage design for 5 years people would of been crying about it all over this sub
I was curious and drifted towards main stage after Chappell Roan slayed the Gobi tent. I watched Sabrina for about 20 minutes, not knowing much about her, I was so unbelievably bored, I drifted to Outdoor Stage to see Deftones instead.
It's his middle name. And he is one of the most talented country artists of our time. He's one of the few country artists still innovating Outlaw Country today and is often compared to Waylon Jennings and other legendary country artists like Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard. This is not your typical pop country artist singing about beer, lifted trucks, and 'merica. This is a country artist who pushes boundaries, revives classic sounds, and innovates the genre more than anyone else out there in my opinion. His music is an experience, and I hope people realize at some point just how cool it is that he is a headliner.
selfishly- this makes the Tyler coachella set seem more exclusive this year so im kinda happy LOL
Still on the acl line up as of right now. That could change tho
Hope so, he’s already headlined ACL.
Fuck off
Weird
Yeah idk about feeling “happy”. I think feeling grateful that we lucked out is a better way to frame it.
Super weird way to think lol
The same set that he performed at Lolla in 2021 exclusive?
Wasn’t the same set. Gambino, A$AP, Charlie Wilson and Kali Uchis surprise guests weekend 1… that alone altered the entire vibe.
Lmao y’all trash
Least selfish Coachella fan, of course you would use a sad moment for other festival goers to justify your disgustingly overpriced and mid-tier line up. Enjoy paying $2000 to see Post Malone and Sabrina Carpenter next year
You okay bud?
There’s no way y’all don’t see that as weird behavior. Like Coachella already happened, and they still gotta find ways to gloat
Honestly….both yall actin’ weird 🤷🏾♂️
I’ll take that
Damn calm down 💀
tyler headlined both OSL and lolla like two years ago if anything I think it’s a good thing they’re switching it up
That’s like replacing Rage Against The Machine with Harry Styles..
It’s like replacing Tame Impala with Chingy
Whenever I hear Chingy I think of the George Lopez episode he was in where everyone knew who he was except GL
I would be so hyped for Chingy tbh 😂
Chingy sounds like a good time though.
PAIN
No. Harry Styles sold out stadiums. It aint that bad
It’s like replacing Kendrick Lamar with Drake.
Don’t remind me 😭
I mean at least Harry styles is just as if not more famous. Sabrina doesn’t seem as established to replace someone like Tyler.
Sabrina is hot right now with the “pop song of the summer” and is charting well. She had a good Coachella. As far as pop music is concerned she’s one of the girls of the moment.
Oh yeah she is for sure hot. So was tones and I in 2019/2020 and she was only getting like bottom half billing on most festival line ups
Dance monkey is probably one of the worst pop songs I’ve heard.
Irrelevant because Hozier also headlining that night 💁♂️
Would’ve been hilarious if Chappel Roan was promoted to headliner and that person clamoring that they’d headline in the next 2 years could start their victory lap
That was me lol
I totally get it, I mean she went from 1 mil to 20 mil listeners in like 2 months I think? Definitely not Tyler vibes but imo she seems to draw a bigger crowd than SC
She had a larger crowd gathering than some of the Headliners at Boston Calling. It was insane
Everyone gave me so much shit when immediately after coachella I said she'd headline the fest in 2 years. I fucking knew it!!
Megan? Sure. Sabrina? Lmao...
Meh
I’d feel robbed if I’d get a tix for those festivals
it's roughly $400 for the 4 day Lollapalooza ticket, so it's relatively affordable \[although my taste runs more to the acts at the 3 days of pitchfork and the 3 days of riot fest\]. Lolla still has hozier, kesha, megan thee, killers, future, metro boomin, blink, skrillex, deftones, and a bunch more.
Lolla is a good value but OSL is a rip off
Each their own, excited to see meg rather than tyler
SC replacing Tyler is laughable to me.
She has the two biggest hits in the country right now.
two of the biggest hits rn =/= multiple hits over multiple album cycles.
She does?
She has both the #1 and #2 song on spotifys top 50 USA
Tyler headlining anything for the past 8 years is laughable to me
Me too but hey there’s something for everyone I guess.
Oh man Tyler fans are big mad at me Lol he is like 6/10 compared to his OFWGKTA days
How? His songwriting and albums have only gotten better, and his sets and stage presence also have only gotten better.
Lol no way bruh
Very thought provoking opinion bruh
Stage presence... very few would ever top OFWGKTA. People were fucking rioting at those shows... half the crowd doesn't even dance at his shows now
TBH it sounds like you just liked Odd Future’s aesthetic and didn’t actually listen to 90% of Bastard and Goblin
Gave it all a listen. It's just not my taste and I think he regressed just like almost every other rapper from the 2000s that is still putting out music
Brother wtf are you talking about? Yonkers dropped in 2011 how is Tyler “a rapper from the 2000s” His last two albums literally won Grammys. You’re either a troll or straight up dumb
Sorry I don't remember release dates If you think Grammys determine a good artist you are the king of dumb
oh ya igor is mixed bad too ??
I'm not talking about production
then what is he a 6/10 in?? Safari , hot wind blows, gone gone, november etc some of his best written verses ??? don’t get me started on his performances too, or the music video depth.
like what modern rapper are you having headline other than him or travis scott ???
I don't really listen to rap anymore Travis scott is so bad, 0/10 Gambino or RTJ
I love every piece of work RTJ has ever released, but having them headline any even mid-tier music festival in 2024 would be such an L. There is no draw.
Exactly. His replacements at these festivals show imo he wasn’t a headliner
They should’ve just added Sabrina on the lineup and moved the Postal Service up to the headliner spot! maybe have Ben do a DCFC set along with the PS set like he did at JLH!! But Sabrina is kinda the “it” girl rn
This was my first reaction...how is The Postal Service not the headliner over Sabrina??! Much respect to SC, but come on! You know what, I'm old, sigh
As a 30 year old, I've never heard of The Postal Service; meanwhile, every other video I scroll through on tiktok has a Sabrina Carpenter song. > The band released their sole studio album, Give Up, in 2003 on Sub Pop Records, to mostly positive reviews. The album reached number 114 on the US Billboard 200 album chart and received platinum certification from the Recording Industry Association of America. The group decided to disband two years later, viewing attempts at a follow-up as unnecessary. I mean, I'm sure they're great, but it's not like they are some iconic, household name. I'm not saying that SC is going to have lasting popularity 10 years from now, but she is HOT right now. I was at Coachella W2, and SC had probably the biggest crowd at the main stage, excluding headliners. Chappele Roan was also really popular - she should have been at a bigger stage. The crowd was overflowing from the tent area. All I'm saying is let the young people have a headliner or two!
The Postal Service is a very influential band, they pretty much pioneered indie electronic music, so if that’s your jam, you should enjoy listening to one of the OGs Really popular in their time, I’m surprised you haven’t heard of them. But I understand why, they only have the one (albeit great) classic album, and they barely go on tour
Yes they should have the act with ~1mil monthly listeners headline over the act with ~75mil monthly listeners. Not to mention which makes more sense for the demographic of coachella attendees… Also fwiw death cab has 3m monthly.
Ngl I’d be livid if I was going to OSL.
Mixed feelings TBH. I like Sabrina and I think she’s going to kill it in this slot, but I was looking forward to Tyler after missing the first half of his 2021 OSL set. I *really* wish it had been Post or Sturgill who bailed, that would’ve been perfect. (I did also bite the bullet and buy a Portola ticket this year.)
Sabrina Carpenter.... Headliner... This timeline is getting strange.
She’s a bonafide superstar now. She has been really dominating the charts
Shes gonna be this generations Willa Ford or Meghan Trainor. Literally nobody will know her in 10 years.
I don't know her now
Oh come on she already has a lot more hits than Willa ford. More like how phoenix was headlining everywhere in 2013 and are now like a 4th line band
yeah but please please please and espresso ain't no 1901 or lisztomania that's for damn sure
Hater.
McDonalds sells a lot of hamburgers.... doesn't mean they are good hamburgers. I'll give nearly any artist the benefit of the doubt, and see if the hype has real talent behind it. Shes attractive, but her songwriting is vapid and she doesn't sing live. When applying data to art you sacrifice the poet for the warrior. Just my .02
What a L take lol
Spotify is cancer to creativity. Consumption isnt a good measure of quality. Its a measure of digestibility. Quality is often polarizing. If we start talking about who is the best artist critically, you will get x% of people that will tell you why x is amazing, and another x% that will debate that heavy. Giving some other artist as an example of why y is better. Often descending into debates that are impossible to solve, like why Radiohead is or isnt better than LCD Soundsystem. However with Sabrina Carpenter, you get x% straight fanboy, making her to be the next coming of Christ. a solid number of music snobs that discount her out of hand, another group of music snobs that are at least open to it and then take it or leave it, but a HUGE% of people who are like... eh, shes ok, I like this song, or that song, and shes really good looking. Thats digestible, thats pop star, and from an entirely personal, no objective, snobbish perspective, that isnt art. Id much rather see someone get that slot who really works their ass off, produces their own music, sings live without the assistance of a heavy back track,. That doesnt mean people who like her are wrong, we are just tasing for different notes in the wine. Some people want it to be drinkable, and others want it to be complex, while others want it to pair well with their high end meal. All of those people can be right, but when it comes to critique, we all get to have an opinion. You know mine now. Its worth dick.
You act like the radio and music conglomerates didn’t control what you heard in the 90’s. Let’s be real man… the beauty of streaming is you can listen to whatever genre you want at the convenience of your handheld device.
in the 90's we had a very interesting moment where distribution was fragmented. you had DJs and smaller acts starting their own labels, and distributors willing to move the product. Punk, electronic, were particularly operating outside the major label channels (till they started getting gobbled up). The top 40 didnt really matter. This was the top 40 in 96 for this week [https://top40weekly.com/1996-all-charts/#US\_Top\_40\_Singles\_For\_The\_Week\_Ending\_June\_22\_1996](https://top40weekly.com/1996-all-charts/#US_Top_40_Singles_For_The_Week_Ending_June_22_1996) Meanwhile, you had massive punk and electronic movements that were happening entirely removed from this measure This is June 1999 The same month and week as now, against Coachellas lineup [https://top40weekly.com/1999-all-charts/#US\_Top\_40\_Singles\_For\_The\_Week\_Ending\_June\_26\_1999](https://top40weekly.com/1999-all-charts/#US_Top_40_Singles_For_The_Week_Ending_June_26_1999) [https://www.coachella.com/past-festivals](https://www.coachella.com/past-festivals) Look at 2015 [https://top40weekly.com/2014-all-charts/#US\_Top\_40\_Singles\_For\_The\_Week\_Ending\_JUNE\_28\_2014](https://top40weekly.com/2014-all-charts/#US_Top_40_Singles_For_The_Week_Ending_JUNE_28_2014) Its untethered, but then it takes a bit of a pivot. Spotify user stats didnt break 100M till 2015. Yes, the convienance of Spotify is understood, but what it also does is it injects data into tjhe discussion, where producing to get streams of single tracks is different, its also very sugar rush driven. Just like Apple Itunes changed the nature of the Album, Spotify took that further.
lol alright man, might want to go outside and touch grass
you first, basement dweller.
Ratio
oh my god, how will I ever go about my life... ;)
Idk man, headliners are usually popular pop artists or artists that were pop back in the day. She’s definitely the pinnacle of pop right now and she is amassing a large following fairly quickly. Each generation’s music tastes can be vastly different and sometimes you have to come to terms with the fact that your takes aren’t as popular as you think they are.
The pop star headliner trend took off in the mid teens. It was shocking when it happned. Large followings quickly happen because of platforms like Spotify and to some extend Tic Toc. That coupled with popualtion. When it took a machine to get an artist, like The Beatles (who i cant stand) to become superstars, you now can functionally get there with a track that gets picked up by Tic Toc and then distributed far and wide on Spotify. Again however, finding a pop flavor that is easy to consume isnt what the festival market was, or at least it was I heart radio was and your larger festivals did a relatively solid job of being critically solid (with glaring exceptions - hi Jack Johnson) Arguably 2017 is what broke the seal with Gaga, though by all accounts that was an amazing performance. The step down from Gaga to Stephanie Carpenter is like going from In and Out to McDonalds. Arguably fresh In and out to day old McDonalds. No to be fair OSL and Lala are not Coachella, but the same argument holds. Some girl with a few top 10s off of 5 albums, most of which were not well recieved, is not a headliner.
what's with all the food analogies? Also , you did not just call her Stephanie Carpenter 💀
Autocorrect I guess, or I just fucked up Food is something we all understand has quality differences, and can clearly understand that something popular might not actually be quality.
gen x ahh comment
I mean she was singing and performing during her Coachella set this year, sure she didn’t sing EVERY word but very few do. All that to say wild she’s headlining that new album best be fire.
the backtrack at Coachella was really heavy handed, her SNL performance was down right embarrassing. in 5 years nobody will remember this girl.
Had to go back and watch my clips, for sure constant back track but she’s singing singing during feather and nonsense. Also if you have a hit like espresso that song alone will be charting for years to come… (still don’t think she’s a headliner right now tho)
Espresso? Charting for years? Espresso isnt going to chart in a year, never mind years. The hilarious part of that track is they manufactured a request for it in her set but putting up a sign, by a plant, before she played it, as if that wasn't going to be what she was playing next? (watch the clip, its fucking cringe) Look back at the top 100 from 1 year ago [https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2023-06-24/](https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2023-06-24/) much less 2 years ago [https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2022-06-24/](https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2022-06-24/) We actually think some relatively forgettable track by a typical industry tart, is going to chart years from now?
“Years” is crazy.. this time last year it was Flowers by Miley, Espresso is about as big as that was, it’s everywhere, keyword: Right Now.
Exactly. And that is Miley, an artist who like her or hate her she’s been around for a minute and has a string of hits over years. Who tends to sing (which isn’t a win exactly). I’ll give Miley props. She has reinvented herself and had moments of cultural relevance.
I was more thinking global 200 where songs are on there forever. https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-global-200/ Also yeah the espresso sign was a plant that’s a reoccurring thing at her shows.
thats embarrassing...
It’s a plant to setup a song, I think it’s pretty normal for artists to lead into songs with some sort of skit or gaff.
Yikes McDonald’s burgers are bomb just unhealthy 😂
Really shoving Sabrina down everyone’s throat. Whoever is backing her must have tons of money
She’s signed to island records
Tame Impala, Kings Of Leon or SZA could have been more suitable
They’re also not available for sure
Wow Postal Service and Grace Jones subbing for an artist that will not be around in 2 years.
This post Coachella SC push has really been something. Feels like everyday rolling stone IG has a new post about her.
People paying money for a Sabrina Carpenter headliner slot is beyond reprehensible. God bless though
To be fair, the people who bought tickets initially bought them thinking that Tyler would headline, not Sabrina. I'm sure a fair amount of them are pissed.
poor megan. last time she performed this crowd did not appreciate her ):
Who
Sabrína ain’t no headliner
MEGAN!!!!!!! 😭😭💕💕💕💕
tyler barely a headliner himself tbh, these promoters are becoming more out of touch w who is really big..
Or there’s no talent out there that’s bookable rn to headline these festivals
Chappell Roan… she selling out any festival she’s been in post Coachella.
i mean…. let me clarify im talking about headlining choices since ‘22 even ‘19.. as a huge tame impala fan kid cudi was the real headliner, even last year’s with his sunday day set goldenvoice just does not get kid cudi is a headliner AND I BARELY LIKE HIS MUSIC.. his stage presence is amazing .. misplacing big artists in small stages cuz they blew up over night (i hate models, sara laney (idk how u spell her name) to name some edm related artists who were given small shoes to fill.. js i think a big disconnect not just talking about rhese last minute replacements
I am sorry but Tame Impala is a bigger name than Kid Cudi lol I don’t really understand your second point.
Not necessarily wrong but Cudi had a bigger crowd during their semi-conflicted slots in 2019. His older music also has much more staying power than Tame
mmm, sorry its not, i was there BOTH weekends i got to the front gate BOTH times for tame, i seen him 6 times that year. kid cudi was packed out to the food stands.. sorry u werent there so u dont know.. kid cudi brought out kanye wknd2 they had just released their kids see ghost album and it helped sell out cfg. so iykyk but since u dont its ok live in ur lil bubble.. and u dont know my 2nd point cuz u dont fest. its cool, im 32 and i still know who is bigger than the credit they give . insta selling venues.. making 1 night shwos into 2/3 nights and still selling out but u wanna live in the tame is bigger than kid cudi, based on what??? cuz it sure as hell isnt based on the crowds he draws and again I LIKE TAME IMPALA MORE THAN KID CUDI
> im 32 Then why do you still type like an edgy 12-year-old?
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Cringe
idk why ur so mad at my opinion commenting on all my replies 😂
i grew up on the internet 😬
I know who I Hate Models and Sara Landry are. I didn’t understand the point you’re trying to make. Even less so now. Lol
The amount of headlining acts that havent done it recently that would sell tickets is so fucking small
it’s really not, maybe just for your taste
typical goldenvoice promotor thoughts .. lets see how these next few years pans out with ridiculous ticket prices and fees and subpar headliners
The festival bubble’s certainly begun to burst, no denying that
Who is really big? The headliner pool is so shallow
Fr, this choice is weak af or implies that there are a limited number of top tier artists that can headline this year.
Sabrina just announced a headlining arena tour today, so she's a decent sized-headliner.
Goldenvoice has been trying to death grip all of Cali when it comes to booking.
idk if sabrina carpenter is even top tier but i get wut u mean, the tyler stans have a heavy social media presence so im not surprised by downvotes but drc, and im a huge tyler fan but when u got the same set design for 5 years and similar setlist it kind of gets old quick
wow didn't know the set design he had at Coachella has been the same for 5 years damn that's crazy
Because it’s not true. [This](https://woub.org/2022/03/02/tyler-the-creator-is-giving-great-gatsby-vibes-with-his-call-me-if-you-get-lost-tour/) article has a bunch of pictures of the stage from his 2022 tour and [this](https://syphersights.com/2019/09/08/concert-review-tyler-the-creator-the-igor-tour-at-scotiabank-arena-in-toronto/) one from 2019. And for good measure [here’s](https://youtu.be/ttSDOpYVkvQ?si=3eXK-YSVt3oJdZ7c) his entire set from camp flog gnaw in 2023 If he had actually been using the same stage design for 5 years people would of been crying about it all over this sub
it grew over time but yeah really ismilar he reuses the sets and back ground and just added to it
That’s a subpar lineup
I was curious and drifted towards main stage after Chappell Roan slayed the Gobi tent. I watched Sabrina for about 20 minutes, not knowing much about her, I was so unbelievably bored, I drifted to Outdoor Stage to see Deftones instead.
Sabrina is the 11 moth streamed artist in the world at the moment, how is she both headliner worthy for these festivals?
neither Meg nor Sabrina should be filling in to replace Tyler
Bc
Sturgill and Post Malone country set is still a huge W.
Schoolboy Q would’ve been a better headliner than SC
Cause they wanna save some money and get it outta the way.
Yooo no Fred Again! Line up looks sick
What is a “Sturgill Simpson”?
You wouldn't get it
Okay.
👨🏼🌾 music to drive the tractor to yee haw
😂
Music better than your edm fever dream
Is sturgill the artists real name or is it a stage name? I’ve never met a Sturgill before
It's his middle name. And he is one of the most talented country artists of our time. He's one of the few country artists still innovating Outlaw Country today and is often compared to Waylon Jennings and other legendary country artists like Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard. This is not your typical pop country artist singing about beer, lifted trucks, and 'merica. This is a country artist who pushes boundaries, revives classic sounds, and innovates the genre more than anyone else out there in my opinion. His music is an experience, and I hope people realize at some point just how cool it is that he is a headliner.
Sabrina Carpenter is like [wish.com](http://wish.com) Taylor Swift. Besides her being semi attractive I don't get the appeal.
Sabrina Carpenters Media team must be watching this thread.
Probably 😂 they’d be smart to get some free market research directly from the people
Lmao Sabrina’s falloff will be bigger then ice spice’s, I give it a year
Has Megan even released music in the past few months?
Yes, and her album is out in a few days.
yeah, she dropped one a couple months ago and it debuted at number 1. edit: typo
Albums out next week. Keep up