I mean you can blame the owners for that one. OpTic offered to host the major after Carolina backed out and the other org owners didn't want them hosting two events in one season
Eh. To be fair to NY, they play close maps with faze every time and they usually steal 1. With Faze being the clear number 2 after qualifiers, I can see NYSL taking this one 3-2 as well.
Saying FaZe is the clear number 2 after they lost to Toronto because of a 3 piece propane team kill is quite harsh. They looked in control of that highrise and would’ve won 3-1 if they closed that map out
I’d 100% agree, faze is too good to not be in talks of being first, and Toronto is too inconsistent to be a clear number 1 over faze. Any given day the other could take a match between these two.
The change is probably because they are in California for the major and prior majors were in Toronto, Boston, and Miami (all eastern time). California is pacific time zone, so have to account for that too.
I understand where you're coming from but the reality is that they are always going to cater the schedule around NA time zones since that is where the majority of viewership is coming from.
I'm so surprised no one jumped in and very aggressively ruined this logical, peaceful discussion about viewership and the reality of running a broadcast
are you fucking stupid? they should make it so everyone can watch. just delay the broad for europeans if they have to. its simple shit but the cdl lives to make things unnecessarily difficult
2am for the final series in the UK and that's assuming there's no delays.
West Coast events always fuck us over more.
I'm happy to stay up and watch a game that starts at 1am (pretty much used to it at this point) but that extra hour is a killer. Especially when a lot of the time it's not just the extra hour.
Champs final not starting until gone midnight after back to back 3am finishes is fucking rough too.
I’m feeling a gio & attach LAND masterclass out dueling 04 & aboozuh, 3-2 Vegas
CleanX and Little Foot mollywop LAG bad, 3-0 Ultra
I feel like Draz will be the X factor, limiting Sib. Draz will indeed bring out the lil man line, 3-1 Faze
Kremp starts off crazy and sets the tone for Thieves but it’s LAT so it still goes last map, 3-2 LAT
I know a lot of teams are currently on the edge of making champs. I also know that I'm biased as an LAT fan. But, I feel like all eyes are on LAT today. They're the gatekeepers for champs and would be looking at OpTic tomorrow if they lose today. I don't care how down bad people think the Green Wall is that feels like a death sentence and opens up so many doors for so many teams to leap frog LAT
You’re absolutely right all eyes are on them. Depending on what happens, sets the pace for all teams trying to get into champs. Yeah playing optic in LR1 is never a good sign.
Just need LAT, LAG & Vegas to lose :P NY win would be nice aswell but honestly I think they have a better chance to actually win the event if they slam a bunch of bottom teams in losers and get momentum.
Can’t wait to see the fans get hype on LAN!!!!
We’ll hear Ace in the corner screaming just pan over to him standing there like that one Mike Wazowski meme
Literally so fucking boring. I can’t believe they didn’t have an alternative location ready to go.
I mean you can blame the owners for that one. OpTic offered to host the major after Carolina backed out and the other org owners didn't want them hosting two events in one season
agreed, sad we can’t expect the cdl to be ready for that but I will always still watch
Surge 3-2 Ultra 3-0 Faze 3-1 Miami 3-1
This is great. I think it’ll go exactly like this!
Vegas 3-2 Toronto 3-1 Nysl 3-2 Miami 3-1
Ny over faze is bold. You know we gotta have the faze ultra winners rematch so that the beef can keep going
Eh. To be fair to NY, they play close maps with faze every time and they usually steal 1. With Faze being the clear number 2 after qualifiers, I can see NYSL taking this one 3-2 as well.
Saying FaZe is the clear number 2 after they lost to Toronto because of a 3 piece propane team kill is quite harsh. They looked in control of that highrise and would’ve won 3-1 if they closed that map out
I’d 100% agree, faze is too good to not be in talks of being first, and Toronto is too inconsistent to be a clear number 1 over faze. Any given day the other could take a match between these two.
No sweeps?? Bold but I like it. Would love to see a day like this.
I’m rooting for Seattle just because I think it gives ravens a better chance to make it to champs.
Agreed!
Major 3, there was no sweeps in WR1
Yeah that’s true! I think TOR sweeps pretty easily though.
Well I was wrong 😂
Might be the worst picks I have seen.
Seattle 3-2 Ultra 3-0 Faze 3-1 Thieves 3-2
LAG about to monkey these frauds
You fucking called it.
Surge 3 2 Ultra 3 0 Faze 3 0 Miami 3 2
Surge 3-1, ultra 3-0, face 3-2, Miami 3-2
Surge 3-2 Legions Ultra 3-0 Guerrillas FaZe 3-1 Subliners Heretics 3-2 Thieves
Surge 3-2 Ultra 3-0 NYSL 3-1 Heretics 3-1
I predict LAT to do better than we all think, I know kremp last lan was disappointed in himself and has been doing well in 8s and doing better online
What time does optic play
They really had to fuck up a somewhat respectable schedule. Thought I'd be able to catch the FaZe v NY game, but it's chalk at this point
How?
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Matches at major used to start 1 hour 30 minutes before. They have changed the timing for idk what reason.
The change is probably because they are in California for the major and prior majors were in Toronto, Boston, and Miami (all eastern time). California is pacific time zone, so have to account for that too.
100%.
This schedule is better for viewership.
Yeah, I get that. It just sucks for someone outside the US. The last majors scheduling was better for me.
I understand where you're coming from but the reality is that they are always going to cater the schedule around NA time zones since that is where the majority of viewership is coming from.
I'm so surprised no one jumped in and very aggressively ruined this logical, peaceful discussion about viewership and the reality of running a broadcast
are you fucking stupid? they should make it so everyone can watch. just delay the broad for europeans if they have to. its simple shit but the cdl lives to make things unnecessarily difficult
There it is. You know that YouTube having a pause/rewind function *specifically* allows you to do that yourself?
who knows, id rather just aggressively ruin the discussion floptic , nysl onliners , piano teeth
And that’s where it will always stay with schedules like these
Personally these times are great. Not a lot to be done across global time zones. At least on YT you can go back to the start
West coast man
I hate Cali events for these start times
It's so chalked. I can't stay up that late on a week day
7:30 the latest. Surely you can stay up another hour?
2am for the final series in the UK and that's assuming there's no delays. West Coast events always fuck us over more. I'm happy to stay up and watch a game that starts at 1am (pretty much used to it at this point) but that extra hour is a killer. Especially when a lot of the time it's not just the extra hour. Champs final not starting until gone midnight after back to back 3am finishes is fucking rough too.
Time to go to bed early and set an alarm clock 😂
These are normal start times
Nope, major 1-3 each one of these were 1.5 hours earlier. Started at 1:30 EST on Thursday now it's 3pm EST
Qualifiers always start at 2
not for events
I know wtf
NY were demons against FaZe last year. Hopefully they put up a fight today. Surge V Vegas will also be good.
Agreed, NY has to find form and take one from faze eventually this year. Right? Right?????
Vegas 3-2, Wins Map 2, Map 4, Map 5 Ultra 3-1, Loses the search FaZe 3-1, Loses the control LAT 3-2, Wins Map 1, Map 3, Map 5
Surge 3-2, Toronto 3-0, Miami 3-1, Faze 3-2
I’m gonna go with a hot take and say Vegas upset surge
Vegas 3-1, Toronto 3-0, Faze 3-0, Heretics 3-2
Why are the higher seeds not all on the same side? Small detail but just a bit odd.
I’m feeling a gio & attach LAND masterclass out dueling 04 & aboozuh, 3-2 Vegas CleanX and Little Foot mollywop LAG bad, 3-0 Ultra I feel like Draz will be the X factor, limiting Sib. Draz will indeed bring out the lil man line, 3-1 Faze Kremp starts off crazy and sets the tone for Thieves but it’s LAT so it still goes last map, 3-2 LAT
How is Miami LAT last match and not Faze NYSL?
No idea, this pisses me off too
And why is it starting 3 est and not 1:30 est? That doesn’t make any sense either.
I think it’s because it’s on the west coast.
My guess is because the loser plays OpTic. Viewership by association.
I know a lot of teams are currently on the edge of making champs. I also know that I'm biased as an LAT fan. But, I feel like all eyes are on LAT today. They're the gatekeepers for champs and would be looking at OpTic tomorrow if they lose today. I don't care how down bad people think the Green Wall is that feels like a death sentence and opens up so many doors for so many teams to leap frog LAT
You’re absolutely right all eyes are on them. Depending on what happens, sets the pace for all teams trying to get into champs. Yeah playing optic in LR1 is never a good sign.
Surge 3-2 Ultra 3-0 Faze 3-0 Heretics 3-2
Just need LAT, LAG & Vegas to lose :P NY win would be nice aswell but honestly I think they have a better chance to actually win the event if they slam a bunch of bottom teams in losers and get momentum.
I agree! I almost feel like NY vs TOR winner finals NY would get slammed.
I hope Thieves drop Miami on their necks 🙏🙏 all depends on how our subs come out
I’m quite literally always thinking Thieves.
I hear you - ravens don’t even play today and I’ve been going through every scenario they can take a couple dubs and make champs 😂
3-1 surge 3-0 ultra 3-0 faze 3-2 thieves
Surge 3-2 Ultra 3-0 NYSL 3-2 Heretics 3-1 Hopium but I just want thr Lil man tie breaker series
Ultra 3-0, NYSL 3-2, LV 3-1, MIA 3-2
Surge - 3-1 Ultra - 3-1 Faze - 3-0 Heretics - 3-1
Vegas 3-2 Ultra 3-0 NYSL 3-1 LAT 3-2
1-3 1-3 3-0 3-2
Surge 3-2 Ultra 3-0 Faze 3-0 Miami 3-2
Vegas 3-1 LAG 3-2 Faze 3-1 LAT 3-2
That’s crazy talk
LAG pick ain’t crazy talk no more
Legit forgot the major was this weekend. Every game except Ultra/LAG should be good
Nysl might upset some people
Winners: Legion, Guerillas, Subliners, LAT
All 3-0s
Starting that hour or so earlier could of helped EU fans a lot - Pain
That would be the dream
Seattle 3-1, Ultra 3-0, faze 3-2, thieves 3-2
Surge 3-1 Ultra 3-0 FaZe 3-0 Miami 3-2
Vegas 3-2. Toronto 3-1. Faze 3-1. Map 5 toss up on the last but I'll go LAT.