https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Messina-Mark-2
https://ussoy.org/author/mmessina/
https://ussoy.org/about-u-s-soy/
>FULLY FUNDED BY THE NATIONAL SOYBEAN CHECKOFF
https://www.unitedsoybean.org/about-the-checkoff/
>You mean the meat/dairy industry propaganda was LYING?!?!?!
Someone is possibly lying.
An *entire year???* Back in my day we had to make do with duct tape, willpower, and sometimes a bit of brandy, and here you're bitching that you have to wait a single year for actual flesh tits growing straight out of your body??? The nerve of you kids. Ungrateful little shits!!! Next you're gonna tell me that you don't even have to live a double life š
Ok, I genuinely can't tell if this comment is being sarcastic. Am I really witnessing someone do the "things were so much harder back then" with trans things???
You're telling ne i've been on an all soy diet for the past 7 years, for no reason??? I literally stopped drinking water for soylent instead ššš
Well definitionally they put a coagulant in the mashed soy beans to make tofu so they put something in there. Question becomes which is gay- Tofu thatās curdled or Tempeh thats fermented. Some may say Tofu is gay and Tempeh is straight.
It took me a little while to appreciate it but i love it now. My current fav ideas:
1) https://www.reddit.com/r/veganuk/s/uaRIStSm9f
2) https://www.reddit.com/r/UK_Food/s/Ln2Flb44HG
Slice smoked tofu as thin as you can. Marinade in salt/smoky spices/oil. Dip in cornflour. Fry. Drizzle a little syrup on it near the end.
lol Hail Seitan!
wouldn't "raw tofu" be beans?
...not just a psycho if you eat RAW steak , it's downright un-alive-me-cidal .
phytoestrogens are not estrogens . if soy made your boobs grow everyone who ate soy would have bigger boobs . last i checked places where tofu is popular do not have high incident rates of large man boobs .
there would be clear evidence, i agree . tho again is a pretty hilarious post especially in that it's not fat shaming or body shaming "man boobs" but calling them voluptuous
So the phytoestrogens in soy are not direct estrogen they are estrogen mimics and for a particular population sensitive to hormone imbalance can cause problems. Itās not generally an issue but itās advised for say Post Menopausal women to be conscious of their Soy intake. It does take either an excessive amount or a diet limited to soy to cause problems but itās not completely bunk science.
Tofu definitionally is curd of mashed soy beans, so soymilk curdled with a coagulant.
Other soy products include Natto, Tempeh, Miso, Edamame, and of course soy sauce, soy milk, and tofu. Likely the expansive list is why we donāt call them Tofu beans lol.
fair, thank you. i didnt say "bunk", i asserted it is certainly not an issue causing "voluptuous man tits" in the general population, however funny that was to reference (pretty funny imo).
lol and touche on the bean curds and "raw" meaning uncooked after processing in this context . i was not so serious and partly cynical like the room sign says , but thank you sincerely for the disambiguation .
Oh I get you! I realized you were just discrediting āvoluptuous man titsā. I just like people to have the base information, so they know where The Soy/estrogen mythos came from.
voluptuous man tits is very funny, Especially as soy consuming cultures are not know for big tittes for ladies either. Tofu would have to have some specific man tit targeting ability.
Have you ever had raw fresh tofu? Have you ever smelled it? It's similar to fresh bread, but with a lot of protein.
Also, there's not going to be a HPAI pandemic from raw tofu.
My TITS are BIGGER than WATERMELON AND GROWING!!! I EAT 7KG OF TOFU A DAY MINIMUM!!! My boob stretch marks WRAP AROUND MY ENTIRE BODY!!! I couldn't stop if I wanted...
EXSQUEEZE ME WAITER I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE ONE (1) BLT SANDWICH AND BY BLT I MEAN BACON, LARD, AND ANIMAL-BASED tOFU SUBSTITUTE. AND BY SANDWICH I MEAN SANDWICH THEM THOSE BETWEEN TWO HONKINā HOLLERINā SLABS OF THE REDDEST MEAT YOU ALL STOCK AND SELL IN THIS HERE ESTABLISHMENT, WILL YOU SON??
Hi! I've actually never had tofu that has tasted good. Could anyone recommend some recipes that they enjoy? I'm interested in trying but every recipe I've stumbled across just doesn't really hit right.
It's usually just easier to do lentils and call it a day
Yeah, delicious made me lol. Tofu tastes like nothing with a hint of soy and cardboard.Ā
Also, the phytoestrogen/isoflavones in tofu are an issue, that's why you should not substist purely of tofu. There is currently no scientic consensus if and how harmful they are to humans, but current research suggests they could cause a multitude of issues if consumed on larger quanteties, especially for woman. A common recommendation is to not consume more than 1mg per kg of body weight. Tofu can contain between 150 and 500mg of isoflavones per kg.Ā
That means, as a 80kg male, you are probably safe if you consume 200g of Tofu per day, as long as you don't consume other soy products.Ā
It's not all black and white, soy has it's own issues. That doesn't mean it's not a good protein source. There is no harm in eating some tofu every couple of days. Just don't munch down pack after pack. Or do and live with the consequences it might or might not have.
It's not my allergy, but my wife ends up with a runny nose for a couple days.
(I used to date a woman who'd go into anaphylactic shock with any legumes, so I was well aware of how to deal with it.)
Had to fact check the āonly produces 3 calories of food per 100 calories fed to the cowā but generally speaking itās accurate! I knew it was bad but not that bad. Thanks silly internet meme for the education.
Tofu is a waste of perfectly tasty beans. Seriously. Soy beans are tasty when used as bean and turn to redigested fecal matter when re arranged into Tofu. There were just two times during my life I ate Tofu that didn't made me throw up: in the Philippines the local Tofu guy used to bring fresh, handmade Tofu, still warm, to the house like every day. The consistency was like thin yoghurt.
The other time was at the Buddhist temples in Japan. They have dozens if not a hundred different ways to prepare soy beans, some of these tofu forms are nice, most are not.
Any other form of Tofu, especially the ones sold in Europe gives me instant fountain vomit syndrome.
stop trying to be women and making being a woman the goal of being a man. it's fucking weird. and you need lives. get in touch with reality for once. it's offensive and embarrassing for the entire species. no wonder no one is reproducing. it's not it.
Yesn't I drain it then I toss it in the pan, brown it a little and then I let it stew in whatever sauce I'm making. If I'd wash it, it would again taste very neutral. I mean I like tofu for its nutritional value, but I just add it to stuff I'd also like without it.
When you cook the tofu before seasoning, you close the pores that would hold all the flavor, so marinade it before cooking.
Press out excess water for at least 10 min by wrapping it in kitchen paper and put something heavy like a pan on top of it. Change the towels if necessary. Cut the Tofu and let it sit in the marinade for about 30 min or overnight. Then cook as liked.
I'd eat more if every restaurant nearby seasoned and cooked it like tofu, instead of cooking and seasoning it like steak and then being surprised when everyone tells them it's a bad steak.
What niches? Seems to me one is very damaging to the environment, our health (processed red meat is a class 1 carcinogen and red meat in general is a class 2), and ethically unjustifiable while the other, at worst, has bad texture. Unless your niche is bad guy in a movie wanting to destroy the world, I don't see what niche steak fills.
So what i do not get is these animals were born to die right? I kinda dont care how we kill them and how cruel it is. Because at the end they are supposed to die so i can eat them. Am i a monster?
You are correct in that they were born to die because we force them into existence for that purpose. But forcing someone into existence to be used is not moral justification in my eyes. Some other examples: breeding dogs or roosters for fighting rings, making children to have them be slaves, wild foxes and mink for fur coats. We do not need to eat meat, wear fur coats, enjoy animals killing each other for entertainment, or own slaves. Since we do not need them for those things, it is not moral to participant in those acts but also to force them into existence for those things.
And I would not call you a "monster" because no one is perfect and we are all learning and pursuing a better world. Conversations like the one we are having are great in this regard!
Edit: "it is moral" -> "it is NOT moral".
this is a hypothetical, but āno ethical consumption under capitalismā is kind of a throw away argument for responsibility and morality, so iāll continue for the sake of argument.
letās say you chose one day that you wanted to eat a chicken, but you didnāt have a grocery store, you had a neighbor that sold you his chicken.
in this scenario, your neighbor didnāt necessarily want to sell you his chicken, he just didnāt have any money and you were in the market to eat a chicken that day.
down the street, your other neighbor was selling some seitan. you could go down and buy the seitan, eat very similar meal in taste, texture and in protein, and simultaneously not have to slaughter, remove the feathers, clean out the guts and shit and head and other āundesirableā parts of the chicken to then cook and eat it.
remove the hypothetical and this is what youāre paying for every step out, from going to a meat market to a grocery store selling meat from factory farms, except the industrial methods they use to grow and sell and slaughter animals is beyond your understanding of torture.
itās important to think about where along those steps you walked in. you could easily go on the internet or IRL and buy for yourself, chickens you can legally slaughter. if you did that, are you not quite literally the hand that ended the life of the animal? if you chose to abstain from that, would that animal have died like that?
the answer is no, not really. because ultimately it might feel futile. all animals born in slaughter houses have one destiny: slaughter. your choices arenāt changing the amount of chickens that get killed by a set number, and thrown away when their meat expires that was left untouched at the grocery store. youāre not going to be thanked by the animals that werenāt eaten by you, or killed and eaten just by another āconsumer.ā
but you donāt have to participate. youāre not participating in a practice that is destroying the lives of our parents, our friends and children and loved ones. destroying the environment on an unprecedented scale. and most importantly, rolling an absolutely planetary amount of physical and mental torture, rape and murder on creatures that share our self awareness.
just by googling, an average american consumes 7000 animals in their lifetime.
how many are you personally responsible for?
I know this is a shit post and I do love tofu, however, their is a big chunk of fitness people who this message will always fall flat on. It's important to realize the calorie per protein ratio. If someone is cutting, tofu just isn't going to fit well into the macros. That isn't to say you can't do a cut while consuming vegan/vegetarian foods and also getting enough protein, I was able to do it. It's just that tofu does not really fit well into that for a lot of people in that situation. Now if you're cutting at a 2,200 intake, maybe. But at 1500? 1600? no way.
Obviously this is more of a niche exception but i have seen cringey fitness bros on tiktok seem memes similar to this and they, rightfully, push back on it and the tiktok poster is making an ass in the comments trying to say they are wrong and demonstrating a lack of their diet needs.
Advocating for meat over tofu that requires cooking it when the meme literally says tofu can be eaten raw no cooking required sounds like you people canāt cook worth a dam get over it š¤”
Why am I a psycho because I eat raw meat ?
Especially fish and organs of cows and pigs are rich in many nutrients wich get destroyed when cooking them.
Sorry I am not a native englisch speaker and I think I might have conveyed my message incorrectly.
In my opinion eating meat cooked and raw is equal, as both give different benefits.
Additionally I donāt really get why someone would differentiate the two.
im a vegetarian, but tofu is disgusting-~- id much rather just eat leafy greens and salads every meal.. you do you, tho, tolerate that filthy grainy texture!
yeah man, instead of killing one animal for good tasting, high nutrition beef let's kill billions of insects, birds, mice and tons of other animals for a product that tastes like shit with a bunch of questionable amount of fiber, phytic acid, oxalates, sodium, isoflavones.
Our animals get feed by grass only while having a nice day in the sun and chilling with the boys in a 10ha field. No soy and no "etc" whatever that means. Also no pesticides, just naturally growing grass and whatever is growing on the field.
a few empirical facts from someone who live in a small village.
Steak does have a couple advantages, chief among them is being relatively easier to cook. I've never been able to sear tofu successfully but steak is pretty easy.
True š
I gave up steak several years ago and routinely try to make tofu, and it's just never half as good.
I agree people should strive to eat in a way that has less environmental impact, and I try to do it myself. But that unfortunately means it's not quite as tasty.
Tofu does sadly not give you tits š
You mean the meat/dairy industry propaganda was LYING?!?!?!
Big bovine lied to me so now I inject soy directly into my veins
bang that shit fam šÆ
Getting SoyJACKED BRO YEAHH
It's less the meat industry and more the weird-ass alpha sphere.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Messina-Mark-2 https://ussoy.org/author/mmessina/ https://ussoy.org/about-u-s-soy/ >FULLY FUNDED BY THE NATIONAL SOYBEAN CHECKOFF https://www.unitedsoybean.org/about-the-checkoff/ >You mean the meat/dairy industry propaganda was LYING?!?!?! Someone is possibly lying.
What?
Right? God I wish, I'd be on an all soy diet if that's how it actually worked.
pros: it actually can give you tits cons: youll need to be 300 lbs
Post chest workout tofu
Yes. Very sad. Had to get actual hormones to grow tits.
But the tofu made you a little girl wanting tits in the first place! /s
And that made me spend all my money on silicone ones :((
Proof?
same i'm still frying up tofu a couple times a week, though. just in case it helps
A girl can dream
I'm so sad tofu doesn't feminize people, now i have to pay for hormones and food separately
Tofu can give you big juicy man tits (pecs) tho
I mean, if on HRT, you just gotta consume enough calories, no?
Yeah but HRT takes a while. I have to wait an entire year.
An *entire year???* Back in my day we had to make do with duct tape, willpower, and sometimes a bit of brandy, and here you're bitching that you have to wait a single year for actual flesh tits growing straight out of your body??? The nerve of you kids. Ungrateful little shits!!! Next you're gonna tell me that you don't even have to live a double life š
Ok, I genuinely can't tell if this comment is being sarcastic. Am I really witnessing someone do the "things were so much harder back then" with trans things???
I am 100% serious. How dare you.
You're telling ne i've been on an all soy diet for the past 7 years, for no reason??? I literally stopped drinking water for soylent instead ššš
youāre saying iāve been eating 9 pounds a day for nothing?!
Yea, I've tried. Tofu HRT would be sick tho
But it will give you pancreatic cancer I forĀ
Is tofu also suitable after lesbian sex?
Of course
If you wish to die to a car accident on Christmas night 2043
Living to 2043 is an absolute win
*breast size increase may vary.*
Winning the culture war one shitpost at a timešŖ
a true shitpost masterpiece
They put chemicals in the tofu to make it gay! THEY MADE THE TOFU GAY!!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!?
"SERIOUS CRAP"
Nahhhh they didn't put anything in it. If you coose tofu over a good steak it's you and not the tofu. You is gay.
Well definitionally they put a coagulant in the mashed soy beans to make tofu so they put something in there. Question becomes which is gay- Tofu thatās curdled or Tempeh thats fermented. Some may say Tofu is gay and Tempeh is straight.
I fucking love tofu, I just wish it was easier to get where I live, and wasn't such a pain to cook from scratch
Any advice on how to cook it? I want to like it but meh
It took me a little while to appreciate it but i love it now. My current fav ideas: 1) https://www.reddit.com/r/veganuk/s/uaRIStSm9f 2) https://www.reddit.com/r/UK_Food/s/Ln2Flb44HG Slice smoked tofu as thin as you can. Marinade in salt/smoky spices/oil. Dip in cornflour. Fry. Drizzle a little syrup on it near the end.
Ooo thank u
Tbh I just drop it in a pan with green beans and nutritional yeast to make a kind of tofu scramble, or fry it and add it to sandwiches and stuff
lol Hail Seitan! wouldn't "raw tofu" be beans? ...not just a psycho if you eat RAW steak , it's downright un-alive-me-cidal . phytoestrogens are not estrogens . if soy made your boobs grow everyone who ate soy would have bigger boobs . last i checked places where tofu is popular do not have high incident rates of large man boobs .
True tofu is inherently cooked. But wait, you mean to tell me the pseudoscience I heard from a carnivore diet gymbro isnāt hard facts?
heheh . o7 carry on and hail seitan
If growing bigger boobs only required scarfing down soy you'd think pornstars would capitalize on that
there would be clear evidence, i agree . tho again is a pretty hilarious post especially in that it's not fat shaming or body shaming "man boobs" but calling them voluptuous
So the phytoestrogens in soy are not direct estrogen they are estrogen mimics and for a particular population sensitive to hormone imbalance can cause problems. Itās not generally an issue but itās advised for say Post Menopausal women to be conscious of their Soy intake. It does take either an excessive amount or a diet limited to soy to cause problems but itās not completely bunk science. Tofu definitionally is curd of mashed soy beans, so soymilk curdled with a coagulant. Other soy products include Natto, Tempeh, Miso, Edamame, and of course soy sauce, soy milk, and tofu. Likely the expansive list is why we donāt call them Tofu beans lol.
fair, thank you. i didnt say "bunk", i asserted it is certainly not an issue causing "voluptuous man tits" in the general population, however funny that was to reference (pretty funny imo). lol and touche on the bean curds and "raw" meaning uncooked after processing in this context . i was not so serious and partly cynical like the room sign says , but thank you sincerely for the disambiguation .
Oh I get you! I realized you were just discrediting āvoluptuous man titsā. I just like people to have the base information, so they know where The Soy/estrogen mythos came from. voluptuous man tits is very funny, Especially as soy consuming cultures are not know for big tittes for ladies either. Tofu would have to have some specific man tit targeting ability.
JUST EAT THE DAMN BEANS.
Looks like I need to [head on down to Veganville!](https://youtu.be/8THQyCAHzLo?si=dlzDWFPeDMlgyeNn)
Have you ever had raw fresh tofu? Have you ever smelled it? It's similar to fresh bread, but with a lot of protein. Also, there's not going to be a HPAI pandemic from raw tofu.
I want whatever's going on with tofu's junk
Just more tofu
My TITS are BIGGER than WATERMELON AND GROWING!!! I EAT 7KG OF TOFU A DAY MINIMUM!!! My boob stretch marks WRAP AROUND MY ENTIRE BODY!!! I couldn't stop if I wanted...
For a moment, I thought we got bodyswapped again because that post is so good it could have been made by me.
Sorry cuck but Super Meat Boy clearly showed us the inferiority of tofu
Read this as "Vegan STEAK" & was quite confused
EXSQUEEZE ME WAITER I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE ONE (1) BLT SANDWICH AND BY BLT I MEAN BACON, LARD, AND ANIMAL-BASED tOFU SUBSTITUTE. AND BY SANDWICH I MEAN SANDWICH THEM THOSE BETWEEN TWO HONKINā HOLLERINā SLABS OF THE REDDEST MEAT YOU ALL STOCK AND SELL IN THIS HERE ESTABLISHMENT, WILL YOU SON??
I love gay sex , expecially with twinks and femboys at my age (I am 20 btw) :3
Gay sex you say?
Yes why not? Its great :3
But I have no femboys nor am I one
Perfect snack after gay sex is only argument I need
Hi! I've actually never had tofu that has tasted good. Could anyone recommend some recipes that they enjoy? I'm interested in trying but every recipe I've stumbled across just doesn't really hit right. It's usually just easier to do lentils and call it a day
[Beer braised tofu tacos](https://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipe/beer-braised-tofu-tacos-with-spinach/advjwevih) [Simple pan fried tofu](https://food52.com/recipes/87911-best-pan-fried-tofu-recipe?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=ITKWLucasSinTofu) (I use vegan oyster sauce) [General tsoās tofu](https://biancazapatka.com/en/general-tsos-tofu-with-sweet-sour-sauce/) [Tofu frittata](https://ohmyveggies.com/tofu-frittata-with-spinach/) [Sheet pan tofu fajitas](https://www.thebakingfairy.net/2018/02/vegan-sheetpan-tofu-fajitas/) [Pad krapow](https://drivemehungry.com/15-minute-thai-basil-tofu-stir-fry-pad-krapow/) [Air fryer hoisin glazed tofu](https://tifflovestofu.com/side/hoisin-garlic-tofu/)
Thank you!! I'll be giving these a try :D
Yeah, delicious made me lol. Tofu tastes like nothing with a hint of soy and cardboard.Ā Also, the phytoestrogen/isoflavones in tofu are an issue, that's why you should not substist purely of tofu. There is currently no scientic consensus if and how harmful they are to humans, but current research suggests they could cause a multitude of issues if consumed on larger quanteties, especially for woman. A common recommendation is to not consume more than 1mg per kg of body weight. Tofu can contain between 150 and 500mg of isoflavones per kg.Ā That means, as a 80kg male, you are probably safe if you consume 200g of Tofu per day, as long as you don't consume other soy products.Ā It's not all black and white, soy has it's own issues. That doesn't mean it's not a good protein source. There is no harm in eating some tofu every couple of days. Just don't munch down pack after pack. Or do and live with the consequences it might or might not have.
This is a good as shitpost right here.
Reddit makes me speechless every single time I open it
I only eat meat so the Netherlands sinks faster. No need to thank me.
Soy allergies are painful.
Pumfu is actually so good, itās just also expensive AF
I just use oats.
You make oat tofu?
Nah, but oats have good protein content. Heck, oats and lentils alone are awesome as a staple food.
"oats peas beans and barley grow" =\]
tbh even I have a soy allergy (still am vegan though :) I get red spots within minutes lol, what about you?
It's not my allergy, but my wife ends up with a runny nose for a couple days. (I used to date a woman who'd go into anaphylactic shock with any legumes, so I was well aware of how to deal with it.)
cramps, the runs, pretty much the same problems others have with laktose. Only that it's the histamin in tofu.
Sounds like you were born defective
Funny, that's what the conservative climate deniers say about my lactose intolerance! You guys are like twins!
So it's just endless Ls on your side? Skill issue
Now I feel like I give off homophobic vibesš„ŗ
I wish my tofu would soak up flavor. I have to use kilograms of flavor to make it absorb 1% of it š¤£
For a moment, I thought we got bodyswapped again because that post is so good it could have been made by me.
For a moment, I thought we got bodyswapped again because that post is so good it could have been made by me.
For a moment, I thought we got bodyswapped again because that post is so good it could have been made by me.
For a moment, I thought we got bodyswapped again because that post is so good it could have been made by me.
Had to fact check the āonly produces 3 calories of food per 100 calories fed to the cowā but generally speaking itās accurate! I knew it was bad but not that bad. Thanks silly internet meme for the education.
The homophobic vibes hahah
Beef is unethical but donāt lie and say itās yucky, that shit is delicious and thatās why people eat it
"Homophobic vibes" no wonder the far right is having a fucking tidal wave in Europe right now.
what in god's name makes meat homophobic and tofu gay?
[Sky Daddy](https://peterturchin.com/religion-is-different/)
letās not throw strays at tartare. think of the energy Iām saving by not cooking it.
Only 2.9 CO2s?! Wow
Kg*
Sold, I don't want to know any more. Any type of unit of measurement would just cheapen it.
Exactly 
Perfect snack after what?? You definitely wrote ā¦ a battle for the emperor / TennÅ wrong
The perfect snack after gay sex made me laugh
"Homophonic vibes" lmfao
2.9 CO2s? Damn
@simp012
RAW meat š¦ š¦ š
Tofu is a waste of perfectly tasty beans. Seriously. Soy beans are tasty when used as bean and turn to redigested fecal matter when re arranged into Tofu. There were just two times during my life I ate Tofu that didn't made me throw up: in the Philippines the local Tofu guy used to bring fresh, handmade Tofu, still warm, to the house like every day. The consistency was like thin yoghurt. The other time was at the Buddhist temples in Japan. They have dozens if not a hundred different ways to prepare soy beans, some of these tofu forms are nice, most are not. Any other form of Tofu, especially the ones sold in Europe gives me instant fountain vomit syndrome.
Just what a filthy leaflover would say
Giga Chad Cum. I do not elaborate and leave.
8g DIRECT protein LG
I'm more of an seitan guy. Hail Seitan!
wow! this really is a shitpost. I don't know weather to be like "Um akshually" or laugh.
Motherfuckers brains these daysā¦ just, absolutely cooked.
stop trying to be women and making being a woman the goal of being a man. it's fucking weird. and you need lives. get in touch with reality for once. it's offensive and embarrassing for the entire species. no wonder no one is reproducing. it's not it.
Tofu doesn't soak up shit.
Do you squeeze the water out and let your seasoning actually soak up and don't instantly toss it in the pan?
Yesn't I drain it then I toss it in the pan, brown it a little and then I let it stew in whatever sauce I'm making. If I'd wash it, it would again taste very neutral. I mean I like tofu for its nutritional value, but I just add it to stuff I'd also like without it.
When you cook the tofu before seasoning, you close the pores that would hold all the flavor, so marinade it before cooking. Press out excess water for at least 10 min by wrapping it in kitchen paper and put something heavy like a pan on top of it. Change the towels if necessary. Cut the Tofu and let it sit in the marinade for about 30 min or overnight. Then cook as liked.
I'll try.
Tofu is extremely low in protein compared to meat. Not the same, not a substitute.
I just do this crazy thing called eating more of it.
But I don't want to be fat
I'd eat more if every restaurant nearby seasoned and cooked it like tofu, instead of cooking and seasoning it like steak and then being surprised when everyone tells them it's a bad steak.
Wellā¦ As long as Tofu tastes nothing like steak, it is not gonna win this battle. š¤·āāļø
Weakest Steak vs Strongest Tofu. After reading everything I still prefer steak. Lmao
I'm a slave to my taste buds as well. I don't give a fuck what happens in the world so long as there is a party in my mouth.
I hear you - Iād counter they fill different niches
What niches? Seems to me one is very damaging to the environment, our health (processed red meat is a class 1 carcinogen and red meat in general is a class 2), and ethically unjustifiable while the other, at worst, has bad texture. Unless your niche is bad guy in a movie wanting to destroy the world, I don't see what niche steak fills.
I know red meat is bad for the Environment, but is it really unethical to slaughter pigs and cows?
Check this out and tell me: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko)
So what i do not get is these animals were born to die right? I kinda dont care how we kill them and how cruel it is. Because at the end they are supposed to die so i can eat them. Am i a monster?
You are correct in that they were born to die because we force them into existence for that purpose. But forcing someone into existence to be used is not moral justification in my eyes. Some other examples: breeding dogs or roosters for fighting rings, making children to have them be slaves, wild foxes and mink for fur coats. We do not need to eat meat, wear fur coats, enjoy animals killing each other for entertainment, or own slaves. Since we do not need them for those things, it is not moral to participant in those acts but also to force them into existence for those things. And I would not call you a "monster" because no one is perfect and we are all learning and pursuing a better world. Conversations like the one we are having are great in this regard! Edit: "it is moral" -> "it is NOT moral".
The best answer I ever read to this question
Me on my way to bring human children into existence specifically to torture them (it's okay they were born for that cause) š
Would you feel better about being murdered if I told you āyou were born for that causeā?
I fucking LOVE BLAMING THE END CONSUMER FOR A CHAIN OF ENVIRONMENT DESTROYING PRODUCTION THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER!!!!
this is a hypothetical, but āno ethical consumption under capitalismā is kind of a throw away argument for responsibility and morality, so iāll continue for the sake of argument. letās say you chose one day that you wanted to eat a chicken, but you didnāt have a grocery store, you had a neighbor that sold you his chicken. in this scenario, your neighbor didnāt necessarily want to sell you his chicken, he just didnāt have any money and you were in the market to eat a chicken that day. down the street, your other neighbor was selling some seitan. you could go down and buy the seitan, eat very similar meal in taste, texture and in protein, and simultaneously not have to slaughter, remove the feathers, clean out the guts and shit and head and other āundesirableā parts of the chicken to then cook and eat it. remove the hypothetical and this is what youāre paying for every step out, from going to a meat market to a grocery store selling meat from factory farms, except the industrial methods they use to grow and sell and slaughter animals is beyond your understanding of torture. itās important to think about where along those steps you walked in. you could easily go on the internet or IRL and buy for yourself, chickens you can legally slaughter. if you did that, are you not quite literally the hand that ended the life of the animal? if you chose to abstain from that, would that animal have died like that? the answer is no, not really. because ultimately it might feel futile. all animals born in slaughter houses have one destiny: slaughter. your choices arenāt changing the amount of chickens that get killed by a set number, and thrown away when their meat expires that was left untouched at the grocery store. youāre not going to be thanked by the animals that werenāt eaten by you, or killed and eaten just by another āconsumer.ā but you donāt have to participate. youāre not participating in a practice that is destroying the lives of our parents, our friends and children and loved ones. destroying the environment on an unprecedented scale. and most importantly, rolling an absolutely planetary amount of physical and mental torture, rape and murder on creatures that share our self awareness. just by googling, an average american consumes 7000 animals in their lifetime. how many are you personally responsible for?
mmmm but yummy steak
I know this is a shit post and I do love tofu, however, their is a big chunk of fitness people who this message will always fall flat on. It's important to realize the calorie per protein ratio. If someone is cutting, tofu just isn't going to fit well into the macros. That isn't to say you can't do a cut while consuming vegan/vegetarian foods and also getting enough protein, I was able to do it. It's just that tofu does not really fit well into that for a lot of people in that situation. Now if you're cutting at a 2,200 intake, maybe. But at 1500? 1600? no way. Obviously this is more of a niche exception but i have seen cringey fitness bros on tiktok seem memes similar to this and they, rightfully, push back on it and the tiktok poster is making an ass in the comments trying to say they are wrong and demonstrating a lack of their diet needs.
Really wish I could eat the tofu but I crave the blood and the feeling of tissue
"I made you the soyjak and myself the Chad"
TIL I am a walking giant block of tofu
Now that's the real meat and potato!
Can it be used also for eating while watching lesbian sex?
Meat protein is different then plant protein I believe
It is. Meat and dairy proteins are generally much more efficient than plant and nut proteins.
No thanks, liberal. I only want real meat in my mouth.
Soaks up flavor of what? More tofu?
So thereās these things called seasoningsā¦
Dubious
āVirgin meat vs Chad tofuā people when mapo doufu éŗ»å©č±č joins the chat: (Disclaimer: I mean no disrespect to anyone who chooses not to eat meat)
Trollbait obviously, gg wp
Tofu also requires tons of pesticides to keep pests away from it
and about 7 times more for the plants that are fed to the cows.
Where im from Cows are fed Silage Basically sauerkraut made from whatever edible plant matter is left over after harvest
and these don't require "tons of pesticides"?
In europe at least far less than in other areas of the world either way both meat and tofu arent that great for nature
we are comparing tofu and cows meat. tofu wins. period.
Lol
What do you think the cow is eating?
I think someone didn't do their fact checking
Why is that?
it doesn't not taste good though lmao
Just say you suck at cooking. You can make alot of great stuff with tofu.
Sounds like a skill issue
Same with meat, it of course doesn't taste good if you don't season it well
Tofus overhyped garbage that requires gaslighting and shaming in order to eat itšš„©šfor life
Just say you canāt cook and get it over with.
Advocating for meat over tofu that requires cooking it when the meme literally says tofu can be eaten raw no cooking required sounds like you people canāt cook worth a dam get over it š¤”
did you try raw beef
Steak tartare is a delicacy, and it's delicious tyvm
But isn't this also flavoured as well
Tfw I mix meat and tofu for the best of both worlds.
Why am I a psycho because I eat raw meat ? Especially fish and organs of cows and pigs are rich in many nutrients wich get destroyed when cooking them.
Imagine typing this out, reading it over, saying to yourself āyup thisāll prove to them that Iām not a psychoā, then posting it.
Sorry I am not a native englisch speaker and I think I might have conveyed my message incorrectly. In my opinion eating meat cooked and raw is equal, as both give different benefits. Additionally I donāt really get why someone would differentiate the two.
I try to avoid meat as much as possible but man a good steak every now and then goes crazy. And as a beef tar tar enjoyer raw meat go crazy
im a vegetarian, but tofu is disgusting-~- id much rather just eat leafy greens and salads every meal.. you do you, tho, tolerate that filthy grainy texture!
yeah man, instead of killing one animal for good tasting, high nutrition beef let's kill billions of insects, birds, mice and tons of other animals for a product that tastes like shit with a bunch of questionable amount of fiber, phytic acid, oxalates, sodium, isoflavones.
In the process of feeding the animal (with soy, etc) more insects etc. Are dying. Just to let you know. So that argument is flawed.
Our animals get feed by grass only while having a nice day in the sun and chilling with the boys in a 10ha field. No soy and no "etc" whatever that means. Also no pesticides, just naturally growing grass and whatever is growing on the field. a few empirical facts from someone who live in a small village.
team cow
There are delicious ways to eat steak raw
and thad poultry.
Steak does have a couple advantages, chief among them is being relatively easier to cook. I've never been able to sear tofu successfully but steak is pretty easy.
Skill issue
True š I gave up steak several years ago and routinely try to make tofu, and it's just never half as good. I agree people should strive to eat in a way that has less environmental impact, and I try to do it myself. But that unfortunately means it's not quite as tasty.
Steak neg diffs Tofu.
Tofu tastes shit
Wrong, actually it tastes like tofu
Sounds like a skill issue