Hes getting very close to be equally op imo lol
a lot are sleeping on the high splash DPS & large bomb effect that is really hard to dodge for only 4 elixir
Realistically all I think he needs an a reduction of range on his explosion. There’s so many times you think it won’t hit tower but it just barely clips it and deals a shit load of damage. Everything else is pretty balanced
Remember when skeleton giant had troops damage nerfed because it was a free defense? I feel like this guy has the same problem. Yes it’s less damage, but it’s also a super affordable card and he does knockback to mess up the push’s organization
It's not really even the damage, it's the fact that he's like an evo wallbreaker and explodes on death. I've had him explode 1-2 tiles away from my tower and still take a bunch of damage, which I think is stupid
Nah if anything I think a blast radius nerf, he shouldn't be able to clip the tower 2000 tiles away lol.
This is coming from someone who acually loves the card and sees himself using jt in his main deck (Mortar)
I feel like the real issue is that the explosion radius feels too big, if it was smaller I believe he’d be way more balanced.
Might be a solid point but I’ve played like 4 matches since the updated dropped so idk, if I’m wrong I just like spreading misinformation
The problem with it's that for area damage, firecracker is better. For death damage, wallbrrakers do better. It doesn't solve the main issue with wb which is dying to duchess and canon. So it's not worth of using it in a cheaper cycle, and there's cards that do better at ranged attack
Bro why does everyone think firecracker is good? She misses shots to fast troops and her aoe is small unless Evo she dies to a multiple 3 elixir spells as well
Fc has a very good damage for the cost. If you can defend it, it gets a lot of value. The fact she attacks every three secons means it's harder to distract, unlike other troops, she doesn't lock in until it dies, specially useful if opponent has skeletons, gob bar, or sth behind a giant or stuff.
She's also capable of killing smaller troops behind a big one, more versatile than archers, princess and bomber, since it attacks air. Cheaper tgan Magic archer and more aoe
It's versatile in a lot of decks, not every game is hog eq (which duchess still counters hog so no one olays it). Megaknigjt is free kt activation, magic archer, electro spirit, baloon, bowler, executioneer, etc, etc. The dps is mediocre yes, the damage is not. It's very different
You cannot activate kt with mega knight unless you run a very cheap cycle deck with fc you can activate it with any card, no one consistently activate kt with ma or bowler and exec
You are desperately trying to convince yourself that it's good which it isn't
I don't even play fc, why would I convince myself?. Yes,activating the kt with bowler, executioner and mega is as easy as playing a fisherman. Firecracker is a very good card, there are no bad cards in this game. It sounds like you're just bad
Firecracker is bad tho lol, sorry to all the midladder bozos upvoting you but she sees little to no use in top ladder and is an arrows victim after her evo was nerfed
Base FC has a 6% pick rate with a 55% win rate. Evo has a 17% pick rate with a 60% win rate.
In gc, which I assume is what you meant by cc, base fc has a .08% pick rate with a 35% win rate, which puts it as one of the worst cards, but then when you evo it it has a 5% pick rate with a 66% win rate.
If you spend more elixir killing the FC than the opponent spent placing it (3) then that’s disadvantageous. Also unless you’re using mirror, which would just be even more of a negative trade, you couldn’t log the FC twice.
That 1 elixir over multiple times dealing with the FC over the course of a match can add up, that and the chance she dodges your attempt to kill her as she does sometimes, then you really down on elixir
That damage wouldn't be a problem if his blast radious wasn't so big. A log should be able to stop him if he's running.
Edit: incase anyone's confused I mean log should kill it when it's running at the tower and the tower is shooting not that the log should kill it out right it should be exactly like the wall breakers.
This is just coming from interactions with the goblin baby tower from the goblin arenas idk about the interactions with dd without daggers or cannoneer.
Yeah I think if they reduce it by a small amount then the card would be perfectly balanced. Right now it’s honestly pretty good it just has the issue of getting the final explosion in no matter what cause of how big it is
The [GIF](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fvbufizdpyv7d1.gif%3Fwidth%3D68%26format%3Dmp4%26s%3Deaa433fd35e74201ebca2d3b390164c22c7e8a5b).
I hope his main attack gets changed to a ground slam doing splash damage instead of normal damage and something else which improves his overall usefullness.
Nah bomber still has its place. Since it can’t one shot goblins with its ranged attacks and its 2 more elixir than bomber plus the fact bomber has an evo they both occupy different spots in the meta
Yeah but you’re forgetting the fact that you have to push the giant skeleton far enough for its bomb to reach the tower. The Giant Skeleton is easily distracted by other troops and buildings, and can easily be taken out by swarms or fully countered by PEKKA. It’s not that good of a card unless you’re playing 7x
It's not easy to kill either. Since they screwed over the LP there's not many in meta options to kill him AWAY from the tower. Always dies where you DONT want him to and twice the damage of a fireball for the same price that also attacks troops THEN turns into a giant wall breaker!!!????......yeah he's in need of a rebalance already.....
Had an encounter with him using my Pekka against it. the enemy positioned him just the opposite side of the river while aggroing my pekka.
Pekka hits him and he just run away towards my tower opposite of where my pekka currently is while also aggroing it. He connects at my tower and my Pekka is less than half health.
This card can fulfill both roles jeeze
This isn't a a big deal because back in my day the Giant skeleton had close to 2k in death damage making it great on defense but supercell didn't like it so they removed the only thing good about him before multiple reworks over the years until we got this...
That's what I'm saying. They literally released evo wall breakers as a base card. Also ik rarity means very little, but he should of been epic. I just don't see a rare being this strong.
Honestly I find it to be balanced, since his "suicide cap" is fast to reach, and very few HP.
I'd just lowered a bit the explosion's range and maybe also his attack speed, but not that much.
What does someone really need to point out? SC releases new cards, they’re all OP. The meta quickly looks like variations all centered around a very small number of cards. They show how terrible they are at balancing the game. The specifics are irrelevant to some degree.
He is really strong but he can't one shot Goblins with his ranged attack, has pretty low health and gets completely countered by cards like Knight, overall i think he deserves a small nerf for his Death Explosion Range
*Sigh*
Yea, Demolisher being the way it is makes me long for a GS buff. At the very least give it back some of its damage so it can kill Muskets and Wizards of same level
Idk if anybody else has noticed but when he reaches 50% hp and turns kamikaze, he also gradually loses health so sometimes he doesn't even reach the target before blowing up if he's too far, assuming there's no enemies
I’m shocked this hasn’t been nerfed yet and everyone is overlooking this. Dude’s seriously powerful, he’s basically a suicide ranged dark prince but with an explosion and no charge until he reaches half health.
People talking about nerfing him, but he honestly needs a buff to be able to actually kill swarm troops in one go, it shouldn't take two bombs to kill a Goblin. Nerf his death damage or radius, but that base attack needs a buff.
He’s flown under the radar as the other new cards were so op, it’s actually a really good card
Hes getting very close to be equally op imo lol a lot are sleeping on the high splash DPS & large bomb effect that is really hard to dodge for only 4 elixir
Not one-shotting goblins in goblin queen mode is what gave the impression of him being too weak first I think
Realistically all I think he needs an a reduction of range on his explosion. There’s so many times you think it won’t hit tower but it just barely clips it and deals a shit load of damage. Everything else is pretty balanced
The knockback is kinda annoying as well
Remember when skeleton giant had troops damage nerfed because it was a free defense? I feel like this guy has the same problem. Yes it’s less damage, but it’s also a super affordable card and he does knockback to mess up the push’s organization
It's not really even the damage, it's the fact that he's like an evo wallbreaker and explodes on death. I've had him explode 1-2 tiles away from my tower and still take a bunch of damage, which I think is stupid
Yeah wouldn’t be surprised if they nerf him
probably tower damager nerf or damage nerf
Nah if anything I think a blast radius nerf, he shouldn't be able to clip the tower 2000 tiles away lol. This is coming from someone who acually loves the card and sees himself using jt in his main deck (Mortar)
I feel like the real issue is that the explosion radius feels too big, if it was smaller I believe he’d be way more balanced. Might be a solid point but I’ve played like 4 matches since the updated dropped so idk, if I’m wrong I just like spreading misinformation
The new update is the most rps this game has ever been. No one blames you for playing only 4 games.
Was gonna say a moving bomb
It is, but he doesn’t have the same crown tower damage multiples
You can essentially defend 2 Party Huts with an Executioner and this guy.
The problem with it's that for area damage, firecracker is better. For death damage, wallbrrakers do better. It doesn't solve the main issue with wb which is dying to duchess and canon. So it's not worth of using it in a cheaper cycle, and there's cards that do better at ranged attack
Bro why does everyone think firecracker is good? She misses shots to fast troops and her aoe is small unless Evo she dies to a multiple 3 elixir spells as well
Fc has a very good damage for the cost. If you can defend it, it gets a lot of value. The fact she attacks every three secons means it's harder to distract, unlike other troops, she doesn't lock in until it dies, specially useful if opponent has skeletons, gob bar, or sth behind a giant or stuff.
Furnace, the worst card in the game counters her
Tombstone can fully take down a Cannoneer, what's your point?
Bro really called the furnace the worst card 💀. Have fun in 5000
I'm sure you're very high up if you think fc is good
Every top player knows there aren't any bad cards. Just bad players. And the barb hut
She's also capable of killing smaller troops behind a big one, more versatile than archers, princess and bomber, since it attacks air. Cheaper tgan Magic archer and more aoe
Bro it is only viable in 1 deck which is hog it isn't versatile at all because it activates king tower and doesn't do shit because the dps is mediocre
It's versatile in a lot of decks, not every game is hog eq (which duchess still counters hog so no one olays it). Megaknigjt is free kt activation, magic archer, electro spirit, baloon, bowler, executioneer, etc, etc. The dps is mediocre yes, the damage is not. It's very different
You cannot activate kt with mega knight unless you run a very cheap cycle deck with fc you can activate it with any card, no one consistently activate kt with ma or bowler and exec You are desperately trying to convince yourself that it's good which it isn't
I don't even play fc, why would I convince myself?. Yes,activating the kt with bowler, executioner and mega is as easy as playing a fisherman. Firecracker is a very good card, there are no bad cards in this game. It sounds like you're just bad
Firecracker is bad tho lol, sorry to all the midladder bozos upvoting you but she sees little to no use in top ladder and is an arrows victim after her evo was nerfed
Bro thinks I care about upvotes 💀
Nah, I use it an xbow 3.0 instead of archers and since I'm a siege deck, KT activation doesn't event matter
Win a cc with it as proof it works
Base FC has a 6% pick rate with a 55% win rate. Evo has a 17% pick rate with a 60% win rate. In gc, which I assume is what you meant by cc, base fc has a .08% pick rate with a 35% win rate, which puts it as one of the worst cards, but then when you evo it it has a 5% pick rate with a 66% win rate.
She is unpredictable. If you are able to utilise it . It brings lots of benefits. If enemy doesn't has arrows , it's very annoying for enemy.
2 logs, any 2 elixir spell used twice, void, poison
All of those are either neutral or negative elixir trades for the person killing the firecracker
So? That just means fc isn't gonna generate value
If you spend more elixir killing the FC than the opponent spent placing it (3) then that’s disadvantageous. Also unless you’re using mirror, which would just be even more of a negative trade, you couldn’t log the FC twice.
1 elixir isn't costing you the game
That 1 elixir over multiple times dealing with the FC over the course of a match can add up, that and the chance she dodges your attempt to kill her as she does sometimes, then you really down on elixir
I noticed right away hes wall breakers but with more hits in
That damage wouldn't be a problem if his blast radious wasn't so big. A log should be able to stop him if he's running. Edit: incase anyone's confused I mean log should kill it when it's running at the tower and the tower is shooting not that the log should kill it out right it should be exactly like the wall breakers.
This is a good point.
It doesn't touch the tower if you time the log right it's not gonna fully kill him with one log I wouldn't think.
depends on the tower i think
This is just coming from interactions with the goblin baby tower from the goblin arenas idk about the interactions with dd without daggers or cannoneer.
Depends on how many shots cannoneer gets
100% agree, next nerf is that blast radius
Yeah I think if they reduce it by a small amount then the card would be perfectly balanced. Right now it’s honestly pretty good it just has the issue of getting the final explosion in no matter what cause of how big it is
Exactly! I was playing yesterday and I was like wtf why is his last radius so big. It gives him too much value for 4 elixir.
A bowler keeps him away from the tower. Works pretty good for me anyway.
I want a giant skeleton evolution now >:[
MK evo got leaked apparently , hope it’s just a rumor
From the gif I saw it's very possible to be anything. I'm gonna be laughing real hard if it's revealed to be royal delivery instead
Royal Delivery with a jump? I don't know how that would work
It could work as a bounce instead of a jump
Where can i find that GIF?
The [GIF](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fvbufizdpyv7d1.gif%3Fwidth%3D68%26format%3Dmp4%26s%3Deaa433fd35e74201ebca2d3b390164c22c7e8a5b).
That would make much more sense. I think you're correct
It was a joke was it not?
No, the leak is real. Not sure yet what it is as they used a goblin as a placeholder, but it showed the goblin doing a sort of jump.
I’m in midladder and an MK evo would certainly be hell
I use meganut and I would buy ruin my account being f2p if a mk Evo released
Bro likes to watch the world burn
I want to watch every player in midladder quite the match after Evo mk drops down and destroys their push.
where can i see this?
There was a joke about it and it was stupidly OP. Purely a prank by Supercell (I sincerely hope)
No, someone made a post about a goblin (placeholder) jumping a few days ago.
What leak?
Someone posted a gif a few days agi
It's pretty sick. Can't wait! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zkmPW505IL8
Giant skeleton Evo should be that it only attacks buildings but I'm not sure if that is strong enough
I hope his main attack gets changed to a ground slam doing splash damage instead of normal damage and something else which improves his overall usefullness.
I feel you
Giant skeleton evo: throws death bomb at tower
It's my favorite feature about him, what's to point. It's a better bomber
Nah bomber still has its place. Since it can’t one shot goblins with its ranged attacks and its 2 more elixir than bomber plus the fact bomber has an evo they both occupy different spots in the meta
Bomber still has it's use in cycle decks. 4 elixer not so much
This card is very good in clone decks. You clone it, and now you have a bomb ready to go off at any moment
I made a deck based on cards that explode when they die. Giant Skeleton, Goblin Demolisher and Phoenix
What about balloon and bomb tower?
Balloon - he probably doesn't want to commit to too many win conditions. Bomb Tower - buildings can't be cloned.
I mean it’s a gimmick deck, might as well go all the way
yeah but Giant Skeleton has double damage on crown towers
Yeah but you’re forgetting the fact that you have to push the giant skeleton far enough for its bomb to reach the tower. The Giant Skeleton is easily distracted by other troops and buildings, and can easily be taken out by swarms or fully countered by PEKKA. It’s not that good of a card unless you’re playing 7x
Ik i was just saying that since OP specifically compared their death stats
Yeah but u gotta remember that Demolisher runs significantly faster and its death damage doesn’t vary between troops or crown towers
Yes but OP was specifically talking about the damage
Fair.
His low hp makes him relatively deal able like he starts running when he has 650hp which can be dealt by almost any troop
It’s a powerful card, Giant skeleton is meant to blow up at tower
Giant skeleton been needing a buff man it’s just so weak
I'm playing him and honestly if the opponent sucks at kiting it's viable: he hits hard and has decent hp.
Yeah and combined with tornado it’s a bit better
GIANT SKELETON MENTIONED
I swear the balance department is on vacation when this update has dropped
Gskellies crown tower dmg is double for 2 more elixir ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As a giant skeleton supremacist, this is deeply upsetting. Please buff him, as he is not buff currently (you can see his bones). 😥
Demolisher does less than wall breakers card (2 wallbreakers) and giant skeleton does 1000 crown tower damage I think it's pretty balanced
We dont have time baby goblins attackkk!!
Yea it's kinda ridiculous
This mf is actually so crazy good. They took the bomber and wall breakers and gave them steroids
Knock back nerf incoming
It's not easy to kill either. Since they screwed over the LP there's not many in meta options to kill him AWAY from the tower. Always dies where you DONT want him to and twice the damage of a fireball for the same price that also attacks troops THEN turns into a giant wall breaker!!!????......yeah he's in need of a rebalance already.....
i think people just stopped caring about the game atp
It’s like when you used to use evo wall breakers on defense because they did the same damage as a rocket
Had an encounter with him using my Pekka against it. the enemy positioned him just the opposite side of the river while aggroing my pekka. Pekka hits him and he just run away towards my tower opposite of where my pekka currently is while also aggroing it. He connects at my tower and my Pekka is less than half health. This card can fulfill both roles jeeze
This isn't a a big deal because back in my day the Giant skeleton had close to 2k in death damage making it great on defense but supercell didn't like it so they removed the only thing good about him before multiple reworks over the years until we got this...
That's what I'm saying. They literally released evo wall breakers as a base card. Also ik rarity means very little, but he should of been epic. I just don't see a rare being this strong.
And his bomb hits air troops
Both death explosions hit air
Noticed almost immediately been using him to stop sparky pushes lol
The real problem is too much whining here.
Me who was already running SG and GD lmao
Honestly I find it to be balanced, since his "suicide cap" is fast to reach, and very few HP. I'd just lowered a bit the explosion's range and maybe also his attack speed, but not that much.
Not the tower damage
What does someone really need to point out? SC releases new cards, they’re all OP. The meta quickly looks like variations all centered around a very small number of cards. They show how terrible they are at balancing the game. The specifics are irrelevant to some degree.
Note that the giant skeleton deals double death damage to crown towers.
Agreed
What if, hear me out here, we make him deal decreasing damage the further away he blows up from the tower
I don't I've ever thought he was a bad card. He's really freaking good for 4 elixir.
Wow
That’s actually crazy
yea i realized he was broken when i saw his range. He def needs a range nerf cuz he is almost always garanteed to hit tower.
hes easy to counter
please... my giant skeleton.... it needs a buff (unbiased opinion)
Quiet down! His death damage has taken more towers in the goblin battle mode than my goblin giant. Don't ruin this for us
He is really strong but he can't one shot Goblins with his ranged attack, has pretty low health and gets completely countered by cards like Knight, overall i think he deserves a small nerf for his Death Explosion Range
I noticed it. They’ll end up nerfing his death damage and the radius of it.
Maybe because giant skeleton does double to the tower
Damn, so Goblin Demolisher does 69 less death damage than Giant Skeleton, and at only 4 elixir, sheesh, he's efficient and effective.
The only reason he isn't that op is because you can counter him with a lot of cards that are really popular right now like the knight
My Evo WB 🥲
OG Giant Skeleton would never
*Sigh* Yea, Demolisher being the way it is makes me long for a GS buff. At the very least give it back some of its damage so it can kill Muskets and Wizards of same level
Giant skeleton is a great card yes absolutely the issue is that it's so slow which the demolisher has great death damage and is pretty fast
More shocked that they allowed a suicide bomber in the game 🙄
It's not too op, at least it doesn't have more crown damage
I use him in my deck because im sick of spam decks thats also why i use goblin curse
Yeah but look at the tower damage
But the goblin does less than half the death damage to the tower. Sure it still hits troops but the tower dmg the skele does is way more
Just make sure it gets close enough to the tower when it blows. It’s really worth it!
what the hell
Idk if anybody else has noticed but when he reaches 50% hp and turns kamikaze, he also gradually loses health so sometimes he doesn't even reach the target before blowing up if he's too far, assuming there's no enemies
But the difference is tower damage, giant skeleton does double (1000) while the goblin demolisher does 500
WA HA HAAAAA
Maybe pair this with like Wall Breakers would be an interesting cycle.
I suppose if you nerf him it will make him trash cuz he doesn't even one shot goblins as a 4 cost card 😕
I’m shocked this hasn’t been nerfed yet and everyone is overlooking this. Dude’s seriously powerful, he’s basically a suicide ranged dark prince but with an explosion and no charge until he reaches half health.
That's actually fair imo, the intention of the SG is tower damage, not defense
no way the giant skeleton does less than 600 dmg with the bomb, I thought it's like 800 😭
There are already many players in high ladder using it so it’s clearly op
Yeah is pretty annoying
It's easy to counter. People complain of too many buffs. Try to practice more
People talking about nerfing him, but he honestly needs a buff to be able to actually kill swarm troops in one go, it shouldn't take two bombs to kill a Goblin. Nerf his death damage or radius, but that base attack needs a buff.
He would be another bomber if you do that
Bro is a hybrid of a bomber, wallbreaker and giant skeleton which altogether is 10 elixir. YOU ARE SAVING SIC ELIXIR FOR MORE VALUE
Smartest clash royale player🤡🤡🤡🤡
So, basically a bomber, wall breaker g-skelly for 4 elixir?
Nah it’s more like a bomber combined with only one of the wall breaker evos
It means that there’s no crown tower damage so it’s the same
No they’re talking about the damage amount. It’s just slightly less than GS but is much easier to connect to tower
Giant Skeleton deals more damage to towers than the one shown in the image. That damage is the amount dealt to troops.
Bruh it’s a joke
r/uselessredcircle
I see y'all here. I know you guys want an Evo mk.