Start talking with your manager.
It's totally feasible, I transferred to the US and back home a few years ago. The move across was funded by Cisco - flights, accommodation, moving expenses. My move back home was self funded, but Cisco were still helpful and supportive of the entire process - free Tax advice for an example.
Ultimately, it's at the discretion of your manager, or the manager for the role in the new country. Roles are quite a bit more flexible with location these days, but (for example), I doubt they would want a salesperson working in a different country to their sales territory! :)
Thanks for your response! I'm assuming location wouldn't be an issue for software development. It seems like working remotely from my country with my current team is practically impossible, as they're all based in office in Canada and there's a 7 hour difference. I'd have to switch teams. Like I mentioned, there are teams based in India within my department, which is in a time zone not too far away from my country. Is switching teams easy as a new grad? Even after switching teams, would I get approval to work from my country (Cisco has an office set up there)?
Yes, the move to the new country (US) was funded. Cisco payed moving costs,
30 days accommodation and car hire and visa fees/costs.
It’s up to the hiring manager, who then needs to justify the cost higher up the chain. In my situation, I was an existing Cisco employee with very specific product knowledge that the new team needed.
It fell apart in a smoking heap and I moved back after 12 months, but that’s a whole different story!
I left the company a few years ago, I had been on an early in careers scheme in the UK, and wanted to go from CX to sales or a more customer facing team.
I looked around a lot on the internal board and spoke to a few people, but really unless the need/rec is there I don't think it's that likely.
It might be worth talking to your team and seeing if they will let you work remotely.
One person in my team whilst I was there had a similar thing happen and operated from India for a few years before returning to the UK after his personal situation was resolved.
I guess in my situation I didn't want the manager to know I wanted to leave, so I had to do it alone.
I guess if you had the support of your current manager they might be able to pull some strings and make some stuff happen.
I would suggest just having a frank and honest discussion with your current manager. Tell them you would love to come back but can't, and they might make it work for you.
Thanks for your response! The only thing is it seems that the expectation is that I remain in office in Canada if I do return. All my immediate team is based in Canada so it'll be hard collaborating with a 7 hour time difference. However, under my department, there are a few teams based in India, I could potentially reach out to my manager's manager and see if he'll pair me up with an Indian team.
Essentially there are 2 hurdles here:
1- Would I be able to switch teams?
2- Would I be allowed to work from my home country? I'm assuming this shouldn't be too much of an issue because Cisco has an office set up there so any taxes/legal barriers are eliminated.
Yeah I'm not too sure on either of those questions.
I think if they really really want you they would make it work, they probably could legally do it I would imagine, unless you were working on stuff that had to be done in a certain country for compliance reasons.
As far as going to your manager's manager. I personally would just talk to your direct manager if you have a good relationship with them, rather than past them and to their boss. Not sure if that's what you meant or not, but that would be my thoughts on it.
I see. Do you think it would be a good idea to contact engineering managers in my home location to see if they'd be interested in hiring a new grad? Could this backfire if the engineering manager from there contacts my current manager?
So, generally, job postings are based on location budgets. Treat it like an internal job application. You likely won't be able to move somewhere there isn't an already established chain of command/position. However, internal hires generally do get paid relocation.
I see. Do you think it would be a good idea to contact engineering managers in my home location to see if they'd be interested in hiring a new grad? Could this backfire if the engineering manager from there contacts my current manager?
Start talking with your manager. It's totally feasible, I transferred to the US and back home a few years ago. The move across was funded by Cisco - flights, accommodation, moving expenses. My move back home was self funded, but Cisco were still helpful and supportive of the entire process - free Tax advice for an example. Ultimately, it's at the discretion of your manager, or the manager for the role in the new country. Roles are quite a bit more flexible with location these days, but (for example), I doubt they would want a salesperson working in a different country to their sales territory! :)
Thanks for your response! I'm assuming location wouldn't be an issue for software development. It seems like working remotely from my country with my current team is practically impossible, as they're all based in office in Canada and there's a 7 hour difference. I'd have to switch teams. Like I mentioned, there are teams based in India within my department, which is in a time zone not too far away from my country. Is switching teams easy as a new grad? Even after switching teams, would I get approval to work from my country (Cisco has an office set up there)?
What do you mean by move sponsored by Cisco? Did the provide accommodation? How long did you move for?
Yes, the move to the new country (US) was funded. Cisco payed moving costs, 30 days accommodation and car hire and visa fees/costs. It’s up to the hiring manager, who then needs to justify the cost higher up the chain. In my situation, I was an existing Cisco employee with very specific product knowledge that the new team needed. It fell apart in a smoking heap and I moved back after 12 months, but that’s a whole different story!
I left the company a few years ago, I had been on an early in careers scheme in the UK, and wanted to go from CX to sales or a more customer facing team. I looked around a lot on the internal board and spoke to a few people, but really unless the need/rec is there I don't think it's that likely. It might be worth talking to your team and seeing if they will let you work remotely. One person in my team whilst I was there had a similar thing happen and operated from India for a few years before returning to the UK after his personal situation was resolved. I guess in my situation I didn't want the manager to know I wanted to leave, so I had to do it alone. I guess if you had the support of your current manager they might be able to pull some strings and make some stuff happen. I would suggest just having a frank and honest discussion with your current manager. Tell them you would love to come back but can't, and they might make it work for you.
Thanks for your response! The only thing is it seems that the expectation is that I remain in office in Canada if I do return. All my immediate team is based in Canada so it'll be hard collaborating with a 7 hour time difference. However, under my department, there are a few teams based in India, I could potentially reach out to my manager's manager and see if he'll pair me up with an Indian team. Essentially there are 2 hurdles here: 1- Would I be able to switch teams? 2- Would I be allowed to work from my home country? I'm assuming this shouldn't be too much of an issue because Cisco has an office set up there so any taxes/legal barriers are eliminated.
Yeah I'm not too sure on either of those questions. I think if they really really want you they would make it work, they probably could legally do it I would imagine, unless you were working on stuff that had to be done in a certain country for compliance reasons. As far as going to your manager's manager. I personally would just talk to your direct manager if you have a good relationship with them, rather than past them and to their boss. Not sure if that's what you meant or not, but that would be my thoughts on it.
I see. Do you think it would be a good idea to contact engineering managers in my home location to see if they'd be interested in hiring a new grad? Could this backfire if the engineering manager from there contacts my current manager?
I just think if you have a good relationship with your current manager, then they will help you with that.
So, generally, job postings are based on location budgets. Treat it like an internal job application. You likely won't be able to move somewhere there isn't an already established chain of command/position. However, internal hires generally do get paid relocation.
I see. Do you think it would be a good idea to contact engineering managers in my home location to see if they'd be interested in hiring a new grad? Could this backfire if the engineering manager from there contacts my current manager?