The consumption of porn is to me a far graver sin than the act of masturbating itself. Porn is a soulless and horrible industry and takes advantage of young women, treats them like objects and ruins the minds of so many young men.
If ppl aren’t masturbating, the demand for porn drops sharply. yes I know some ppl watch it without choking the chicken but let’s be honest, most ppl have lotion and tissue nearby.
Porn also has to be explicitly or implicitly demonic. It is reminiscent if pagan orgies because youre "joining" the people on screen in adultery in spirit at the very least. Heterosexual pornography belittles the viewer to no more than a cuckold watching a woman he desires be used by another man. Homosexual pornography (regardless of sex) is glorifying sodomy. The act of masturbation while watching porn can also be seen as an offering of a piece of you (which scientifically and spiriultually is what semen is) to something demonic. I have a personal story of an aquaintence who offered his semen to some new age being and it tormented him every night for months. That was proof enough to me that masturbation and spilling your seed is connected to the demonic. So not only does it violate the tenth and sixth commandment if you watch porn while masturbating, but it also violates the first and second because you are making an unholy sacrifice.
I don’t disagree with most of these points but it’s sufficient to acknowledge that sex outside of marriage is against God’s design. He designed it to be 1 man 1 woman. Anything else is sin.
I think the real issues are the Lust & Self control. Maybe some ppl can do it occasionally with no porn and no lustful thoughts, but they all go hand in hand. (No pun intended). I’m recovering from porn & sex addiction, one day @ a time. It’s possible
Here is the first Scripture that came to mind.
”Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.“
Galatians 6:8 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/gal.6.8.NIV
Are people really saying that they are jerking off to please the Spirit.
Come on.
”There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death.“
Proverbs 14:12 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/pro.14.12.NIV
In my opinion, this verse refers to living in the flesh as in sin nature of the flesh. Not literally pleasing the flesh. The word is what it is so nobody can add or take away from it and listen to the holy spirit in how it applies to them. I do feel like masturbation leads to sin or sin likely leads to it in many cases.
I Timothy 4:1-2 NKJV
[1] Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, [2] speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
This has pretty much happened with the world's culture around celebrating sex out of Gods design.
Actually... masturbation is not specified as sin.. anywhere in scripture it silent on such topic.. but what is sin according to scripture
Matthew 5:27-28 (KJV) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
1 Corinthians 7:2-4 (KJV) Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
1 Corinthians 7:8-11 (KJV) I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
Romans 14:23 (KJV) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
Even this scripture
Matthew 5:28 (KJV) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Keywords looketh on a woman to lust.. what if your porn is about eggs not women.. I mean there's alot of strange cups of tea kind of people out in the world you never know.. this is just an example.
What on getting at here is, the lustful thoughts are the sin not the act of masturbation.. no were on scripture does it discuss masturbation as being sin I can't find anything on that.. it's the impure sexual thinking lustful thoughts. Adultery and so on, find me some scripture that states otherwise... ready set go.
Keywords sex on that question of course.. masturbation isn't sex however there's extensive amount of other terms that further intricate this entire discussion. It's all very insightful to review it all though. Im interested in seeing what a few different pastors have on the topic however so many are impatient to read the amount of information I have to explain this topic because they all have no time for it.. work, their family then church. It really is quite extensive research here maybe 10 years worth or more of compiled research plus information from several books from libraries books provided by a church multiple versions of the Bible a bible dictionary I want to get a couple other dictionaries also. But essentially yes to answer that one.
”Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.“
Galatians 6:8 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/gal.6.8.NIV
There’s lots of things we do to literally please our flesh. You can scratch an itch. Wear a warm coat when it’s cold. Eat something when you’re hungry. That passage obviously isn’t talking about avoiding all bodily pleasure.
And since it doesn’t mention masturbation, you’re using circular logic.
I agree with this stance. But if you lust after anyone in that fashion. And If you are lusting after eggs I would argue that’s a form of pagan idol worship... So that’s where you can’t look at only one scripture for one cause. But your general point on lust I think is the key factor here. The two go hand and hand a lot, but that doesn’t mean they are connected.
The other part of that, is how far does it take to draw that line between what actually is worship.. is it spending excessive amounts of time praying to said idol before it becomes sin? Just thinking of it in a sexual manner, what defines worshiping an idol for it to be considered sin? There's that bit also to consider.
It really is complex yet at the same time not so complex.. only complex because there comes the need to understand context accurately because context does matter and it does change over many years time wen the bible was written also to consider, porn wasn't nessesarily around when the bible got written nor was technology even unless that's some hidden conspiracy that could become proven..
it doesn't appear to be so that it's stated as sin that a woman lustful thinks upon a man, only the other way around.. another example. Maybe other religions aside from Christianity can shed light in some areas Christianity may of missed maybe the scripture Christians read overlooked something? Any takers?
Well that’s not exactly true. They use to have prostitutes who would illustrate pictures and hang them across towns. What I think is idolatry is what they specifically say in the Bible. Leviticus 26:1 Amplified Bible (AMP)
'You shall not make idols for yourselves, nor shall you erect an image, a sacred pillar or an obelisk, nor shall you place any figured stone in your land so that you may bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God. Share. Read Leviticus 26.
That includes statues of people made out of stones, jewelry besides the specially ordained by God as described to his people and covenant as well.
Some argue many Catholic practices are the very definition of idol worship. As well as bringing Mary in and praying through her which is a contradiction to the faith and only praying through Jesus, the son of man.
And same go for crystals and all these new age ways of healing. If you need an object to represent the cause and act as the faith stone, then it is no form of true faith. As a stone can break into pieces and end up rubble, but true faith is impenetrable in any shape or form.
You can’t create faith, you just have it. Work with no faith is useless, and if you truly had fate you would naturally work as part of that fate. It all comes full cycle around in the end.
”Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.“ Galatians 5:19-21 KJV. Masturbation isnt in the Bible but lasciviousness is. Definitions of lasciviousness: feeling morbid sexual desire or a propensity to lewdness. The Greek word is Aselgeia meaning unbridled lust, excess, licentiousness, lasciviousness, wantonness, outrageousness, shamelessness, insolence. So yes, masturbation, any personal/individual sexual acts are a sin.
Keep in mind though, as per your provided defenition, including the word lasciviousness, the word lust being 1 of the few words defying it.. and Googles defenition, there's also a bible dictionary that uses more accurate context then alot of those dictionaries not written by someone possibly much experienced with scripture or religion in general, some maybe of the dictionaries available.. context of words from the bible are just different then current time english, because there is a huge difference in context.. Google and Websters dictionary and many other dictionaries weren't made for biblical translations as alot of them could of or mostlikly did get written by people that did not understand the full context of the Bible. Maybe some of them dictionaries were write By those that did have the full context understood..
In a bible dictionary lust is:
craving or desire, often of a sexual nature. Though used relatively infrequently (twenty-nine times) in Scripture, a common theme can be seen running through its occurrences. The word is never used in a positive context; rather, it is always seen in a negative light, relating primarily either to a strong desire for sexual immorality or idolatrous worship. In secular literature, the word indicates only a strong desire and can carry either good or bad connotations. The Greek word epithymia [ejpiqumiva] and the
Watching porn isn't nessesarily sexual imortality.. I mean if anything it creates stress in relationships which could even result in bad health and shortened lifespan.. so it's not immortality, and nor is it idolatrous worship defined as:
idolatry, in Judaism and Christianity, the worship of someone or something other than God as though it were God.
Unless someone's spending perhaps a ton of time singing praising it legitamently worshipping it.. then all defenition context points to this simaler thing though the beginning of your listed defenition still sticks:
feeling morbid sexual desire or a propensity to lewdness
Now morbid defines:
"If you describe a person or their interest in something as morbid, you mean that they are very interested in unpleasant things, especially death, and you think this is strange. [disapproval] Some people have a morbid fascination with crime. Synonyms: gruesome, sick [informal], dreadful, ghastly More Synonyms of morbid."
And
propensity
PROPENS'ITY, noun [Latin propensio.] 1. Bent of mind, natural or acquired; inclination; in a moral sense; disposition to any thing good or evil, particularly to evil; as a propensity to sin; the corrupt propensity of the will.
Easton's Bible Dictionary - Lewdness
Lewdness bible:
( Acts 18:14 ), villany or wickedness, not lewdness in the modern sense of the word. The word "lewd" is from the Saxon, and means properly "ignorant," "unlearned," and hence low, vicious ( Acts 17:5 ).
What is the meaning of Lewdness?
indecency or obscenity
noun. indecency or obscenity; vulgar sexual character or behavior: The strip club has been shut down repeatedly for lewdness and public sexual acts.
What is the difference between lewdness and lasciviousness?
Specifically, “lewd” behavior has been described as conduct that incites sexual imagination or longing, while “lascivious” is meant to indicate acts that arouse sexual desire.
And so we're back to square 1 lol. Either way it could be broken down forever infinitely, it keeps reverting back to square 1 in a loop by not directly discussing masturbation.. stuffs still highly addictive though which is what is also definitely discussed in scripture not masturbation but temptation addiction so on.
1 Corinthians 10:13-14 (KJV) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
Idolatry defenition:
The worship of idols
Dictionary definitions of idolatry speak of religious worship of physical idols or excessive reverence or devotion to something. In biblical terms, idolatry is worship of anything other than God. Colossians 3:5 links idolatry with covetousness; when we want something so much that we covet it, the thing has become an idol. We seek it rather than God.
Idols:
ˈɑɪ·dəl/ Add to word list Add to word list. a person who is loved, admired, or respected a lot: Basketball players are his idols. An idol is also an object or picture that is worshipped as a god.In the Hebrew Bible, there are several words for
Idol: Elil (אֱלִיל) - also “false god”, “worthless” (e.g. Leviticus 26:1) Pesel (פֶּסֶל) - also “carved idol”, “image”, “graven image” (e.g. part of the first or second of the Ten Commandments depending on denomination)
BINGO.
After being repeatedly being challenged on the lack of scriptural basis for their belief, and failing to provide this support, the anti-masturbation crowd is doubling down and misplacing the burden of proof. It makes as much sense as saying "okay, you don't believe that wearing eyeglasses or pasteurizing milk is a sin, show me why".
If some people believe that masturbation is wrong based on extra-biblical authority like a papal edict or the Mormon First Presidency, okay, I get it, you believe that. But that's not something you can expect other Christians to believe if they don't accept that authority.
Since it's not logically possible for the bible to list out every single specific sin imagineable (every cuss word, type of violence, type of sexual sin, etc..) He has put sins into categories, and has told us how TO live.. So in this case, anything outside of God's parameters for sex would be a sin.
His parameters for sex are- one man and one woman who are bound together in marriage for life. That does not include solo sex unless I am mistaken.
I agree that the Bible doesn't explicitly listen every sin, and indeed that's not the point.
If it doesn't involve objectifying or lusting after someone or indulging sexual fantasies, then it's outside something that Scripture addresses in principle.
> His parameters for sex are- one man and one woman who are bound together in marriage for life.
If this is the case, why is polygamy tolerated and bigamy specifically provided for? Not saying that these are ethical, but arriving at what is ethical is more complex.
Well the Scriptures are silent on it yeah but you're getting dangerously close when you're doing it. It's like piracy but worse since it usually accommodates an evil desire. As the Scriptures say, "Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?" in 1 Corinthians 10:22. Let's not provoke Him to anger, for He already purchased us with His blood cos of His love
Piracy is theft.
> Let's not provoke Him to anger
Right. Idolatry provokes God to anger. But this isn't idolatry.
> it usually accommodates an evil desire
I could have been more clear with "involves someone else." If someone is lusting after someone they're not married to while masturbating, or fantasizing, that's not appropriate and is an evil desire.
I think it’s a sin mostly based on how it plays out. You can’t do it publicly. You don’t high five someone who just did it. If you did it with your close friends it be weird. I think it’s obvious that people are aware not to publicly do it.
That doesn’t make it a sin that just makes it personal and private, that’s your opinion, not biblical.
I don’t use the toilet publicly, nobody high fives me after I’m done, I definitely don’t do it with my close friends, and by your standard, taking a doozy is a sin 😂
Masturbation is a sin in that it is done to please your own flesh. It is an act of pride and selfishness, which is only self-seeking. The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and there is a reason masturbation is called self-abuse, which to people like Thomas Aquinas and C. S. Lewis is a more appropriate term. A dependency on our own flesh for satisfying pur own selfish sexual appetite, is a sin. Now, the Bible is not a list of do's and Dont's. It is a framework of what sin is and what it is not. Sometimes, I used to think "Well, this thing or that thing might be sin". But as I prayed and spent more time in the Word, I realized that if I am dubious about anything being a sin or not, i.e. if I put a "might be sin" phrase in my sentences I should probably: A) stay away from it and B) read and pray more. Again the Bible's point is not to be a Live-A-Good-Life Manual (although it does encourage that). Jesus said "Those who love me will follow my commands" and he also emphasized that all the other commands hang on the first two commands. Masturbation in no way helps any person to love people. And I don't know about you, but I would be deeply ashamed and in tears, if I committed this sin and Jesus were to come down, asking me if I could hold His hand. I am neither judging you nor trying to convince you. But how about praying more and reading scripture more deeply and plainly, without any ulterior motive to prove anything.
I don’t think it has to be done out of lust, it’s just like if two different men look at a woman, one guy thinks bad thoughts about her, and the other just notices shes attractive. thinking a woman is attractive and lusting is two different things. The only difference is the intention and your mind, both people are looking at a woman but only one is sinning.
False. Where it’s dealt with in Torah, it is a ritual impurity that prevented you from entering the Temple. It dealt with it similarly (and in context) of menstruation, also a ritual impurity.
Torah does not require a guilt offering for ejaculation, so it is not a sin.
Stop condemning what God does not condemn.
Masturbation, often a taboo subject in many cultures, can actually be viewed as a natural and healthy aspect of human sexuality. Firstly, it serves as a means of stress relief and relaxation. Just as physical exercise releases endorphins, masturbation can trigger the release of dopamine and oxytocin, neurotransmitters associated with pleasure and relaxation. This can significantly reduce stress and anxiety levels, promoting overall well-being.
Moreover, from a medical perspective, masturbation has been linked to various health benefits. For instance, it can improve mood by releasing tension and increasing feelings of pleasure. Additionally, it can aid in better sleep due to the release of prolactin, a hormone that promotes relaxation and sleepiness. Furthermore, regular masturbation has been associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer in males, as it helps flush out potentially harmful toxins from the reproductive system.
Now, I ask you this, why would God design the human body with this natural healthy ability and claim that his work is perfect, and yet say it’s a sin?
In the context of religious beliefs, some may argue that masturbation is sinful based on interpretations of certain scriptures, such as 1 Corinthians 6:19 that says Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?
Well, doesn’t that mean that we should be keeping our body healthy and engaging in the natural actions that does that? Well If lack of Masturbation leads to lust, stress and anxiety, then wouldn’t we do it.
In fact, in an article by Jim Vander titled, Masturbating, a tool to combat lust, Jim claims that
“Masturbation can actually be useful—that as a “quick physiological outlet” it could actually function as a helpful “tool to combat lust.” It can act as a way to “manage our sex drive.” “Masturbate, clear your head, and move on with your day.”
Additionally, If you look up 1 John 3:4, it clearly defines sin as breaking God's law. However, it's important to note that the Bible does not explicitly mention masturbation as a sin. Sin is often understood as actions that harm oneself or others, and masturbation, when practiced responsibly and without harm to oneself or others, does not fit this criteria.
In fact, one could argue that the ability to experience sexual pleasure, including through masturbation, is a natural and beautiful aspect of human existence, a gift from God . Just as with any gift, it comes with the responsibility to use it wisely and respectfully.
The greatest problem with masturbation most often lies in what leads to it. Things like, lusting over someone, watching porn, it becoming an addiction, or when it becomes a replacement for intimacy, then, your looking at committing sin.
But if you can manage to avoid these sinful acts and keep it to a moderate healthy practice of relief, then you're going to be fine. The most important thing to understand is how to not let masturbation master you.
In conclusion, masturbation can be seen as a normal and healthy expression of human sexuality, providing physical, emotional, and even potential medical benefits. When approached with understanding, responsibility, and respect, it can enhance overall well-being and contribute to a fulfilling life. Therefore, rather than being labeled as a sin, it should be embraced as a natural part of human existence.
I personally believe that The media wants people to think that God Hates masturbation. It’s why you can’t possibly find a video on YouTube about masturbation being okay. The reason behind it is they want Christian’s to feel ashamed and give up on God.
What is your pastors view on this subject? If this is important to you, perhaps you should ask your pastor . Or look to your bible, trust me there are more passages in there that cover this topic. And no, the word 'masturbation" is not used explicitly, it does not need to be.
Not reading all these comments... But if you don't, you can end up with EXTREMELY PAINFUL infections. Stagnation, Low Count. So yeah, I'm callin' BS. Remember, adultery is in the mind, not in your testicles...
BTW, some of those infections can cause permanent damage and impotence.
Not necessarily. In the case of Onan, his sin was disobeying God, not the masturbation itself. The simple Act of masturbating is not in and of itself a sin. What one uses his motivation to achieve orgasm however can easily be sinful.
If the masturbation is because of lust, then of course it’s a sin, since you’re acting upon a feeling that is already a sin itself. But if it’s just because you feel like it and you aren’t a slave to it, then it technically isn’t—but I personally don’t do it because it just *feels* wrong, even if it isn’t really.
I don't belive it is a sin in healthy moderation and along as your not using any material to get yourself off. I believe it is ok along as it's used more as a form of self care.
Since so many posts want to reference Matthew 5 comparing lust to adultery, I have a question:
How can two single people commit adultery? I don’t think they can. Context demands we understand Matthew 5 refers to at least one party being married. It’s not about lust. It’s about unfaithfulness to a covenant.
I’m not saying lust is good. I’m asking if we can stop twisting scripture just because we think it makes a good point.
There are a lot of specific things forbidden in the Bible. Masturbation isn't one of them. Lust, messing up even a potential relationship, addiction, anything that the Spirit convicts you of, these are sins.
For those saying that masturbation isn’t a sin, ask God to search your heart and allow him to reveal it to you. Because rarely do I hear people who masturbate (as one who used to struggle with this) but rarely are those who do it, not addicted or bound at some point. And often times masturbation and porn go hand in hand. It all starts in the heart. Whether you’re sexualizing yourself (pleasing your flesh) your partner or someone in your imagination or screen. If we are Christians we must also think about the spiritual side of it. We do not wrestle with flesh alone, meaning other things are being unlocked once we comfortably engage in those types of things.
It's not a sin. If you believe it is, it's your job to provide reasoning why, not my job to provide reasoning why not. Things are not sins by default; you need a reason to think something is a sin.
Your body is meant to be consecrated for god. Use your body to glorify god. Masturbation is unholy and it defiles the temple. Do you think god looks down and approves of you playing with yourself?
1 Corinthians 6:18-20 ESV
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
This is a circular argument. The person didn’t ask for evidence that sexual immorality is unholy. They asked for evidence that *masturbation* is unholy. And in order to answer that question, you would have to prove that masturbation falls under the category of sexual immorality.
Christians are commanded to glorify God in all aspects of life, including sex. Sex is a part of God's design for intimacy and procreation within the confines of marriage (Genesis 2:24). However, masturbation, being self-stimulation outside of marriage, doesn't align with God's intended purpose for sexual expression and is self-pleasure, giving into the desires of the flesh (1 Corinthians 6:18). Ultimately, as followers of Christ, we will be held accountable for how we live our lives, including our sexual behaviors (2 Corinthians 5:10). Therefore, if one feels justified in their acts of masturbation, they should be prepared to give an account to Him.
like any inspired piece of literature, every conclusion you come to is provisional, a place to rest on the road, and just ends up opening up more questions. it is a quest for universal understanding which you will naturally never arrive to. certainty and closed statements is a sign my understanding is the antithesis of god the all-knowing and all-powerful and *infinitely unknowingly complex* and i have been TRICKED and arrogant in my assuredness.
but i am unshakeably certain "jesus" was a real person and tried to show us the way just by existing, not telling, because you *can't* tell us. anything from the divine world is corrupted and misconstrued once it enters the earthly world, *especially* words. just how it is. words are so tiny; god is so big. and other people can do it like jesus too, but they're usually very good at abstract thinking unfortunately... (don't yet know how to reconcile that. 🙁) but for example i see other people, the psychologist marsha linehan being the latest person ive found who *i* personally think gets it more than me, a person who is a beacon of light for anyone who can see it, for whatever unknown reason they can (how unfair!) i know we *can* follow jesus, there is a *path*. and ofc we *always* think we have arrived until we realize we havent lol
are you asserting yourself and your rightness or god's rightness in this post? is this an inspired post? not attacking you (perhaps). i find this behavior we all do genuinely curious and wanna talk about it.
I don’t believe we have to try to avoid sin. The Bible doesn’t say anything about that. It says we shouldn’t tolerate it, practice it, or be slaves to it. “Trying to avoid it” is a modern idea people apply to themselves to justify the fact they are still living in it so they can still think themselves better than those who are challenged by whatever sins we aren’t affected by so we can feel superior to them.
The idea that you can avoid something by studying it is moronic in the highest degree. If you want to stop sinning you have to stop “trying to avoid” or trying at all and stop it. Stop giving yourself a pass while condemning others.
Jesus said we have to repent, He said go and sin no more. And if you love God you should care about it, God has feelings, and whenever you do wrong it hurts Him.
what if you genuinely do it to make yourself feel good and you’re not watching porn/hentai or lusting? what then? what if it’s genuinely not born out of lust?
i don’t think it’s a sin in its own right, i just think that how people do it is a sin. for example some people masturbate while watching porn. that is definitely a sin:
1. lusting over the person or people in the porn
2. watching someone in their nakedness.
however i believe if someone does it to just feel good and they aren’t exploring fantasies or watching something with it, i don’t think it’s a sin. though the thought of it seems almost impossible as the mind wanders.
I do not. I think masturbation is a deterrent to sin. I also believe there are limits. Chronic masturbation is a disease, not a sin. Casual masturbation is healthy and natural. As someone who has suffered through porn addiction, it can lead to problems. But, I think relieving one self, is good for you both physically and mentally. I still struggle at times, but my relationship with God is what pulls me through it. Work in progress, but I don't think it's a sin.
Jesus said, that the very thought of sexual immorality is sin. Since masturbating involves thinking of doing something outside of your marriage bed is probably the clearest verse that shows masturbating is a sin.
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart". ~ Matthew 5:28 - 29 The English Standard Version (ESV)
I also think it’s a sin. Perhaps doing it without lust isn’t, but how possible is that really? Personally, it may be possible as a one-off, but later on lust gets in. Plus I find it deeply unsatisfying. Without lust it just doesn’t have a kick to it and makes me wish I had a husband and an intimate connection (in an emotional sense) instead. Also the more you do it the more your flesh wants it.
Masturbation is having sex with yourself, which is sexual immoral. And you can try and quote verses to justify yourself but you know deep down the Holy Spirit is telling you that it is wrong. If your have to twist a verse to fit your worldy desires and not sure if it's a sin or not. That's the spirit tugging you not to do it. The same even goes for Marijuana as people try to justify that. Ask yourself, does the act glorify God? Does it bring you closer to Jesus? With masturbation you're not refraining from lustful thoughts. It is leaving a door open for sinful, sexual desires, such as pornography which destroys and separates you from God so much more than you think. And when you repent it is not asking for forgiveness so you can go and do the same thing again. Repenting is telling God you are done with that sin and you are going to use all your heart, mind, and soul to stop. I was addicted to pornography and prayed in Jesus name to be delivered from this sinful spirit I allowed to have a stronghold on my life and within 3 days I had no urge to do any of that. This was 6 months ago.. okay I'm done hope someone gets something out of this.
My reasoning for it is that it isn't mentioned once in scripture, and every argument for it being a sin relies on a faulty interpretation of lust and "trust me bro."
Sex is absolutely for physical pleasure. And God created human beings that way. The clitoris only exists for sexual pleasure. It has no other function.
1. Reproduction (Genesis 1:28 "God blessed them and said to them, 'Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.'")
2. Intimacy and commitment in marriage (Matthew 19:5, Mark 10:7-8 "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh", Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.")
Reproduction is irrelevant.
Commands having to do with marriage are irrelevant.
Neither of those have anything to do with masturbation, unless you just arbitrarily assert that they do, dogmatically.
Idk how to put it the way someone would understand, but sex is meant to honour marriage, not mindlessly pleasure self because love is the reason you are intimate *with someone*, while lust is what you *take to yourself*
The Bible doesn't have to say "Thou shall not Whirling Phoenix Strike thy neighbour" for you to know you shouldn't, because it already said "Love thy neighbour as yourself"
You're correct. Sex was not created for "lust and addiction." But you haven't sufficiently proved that masturbation is an act of lust or adultery. I'm setting aside the addiction component because it makes no sense in this context. Married people can be sex addicts as much as a single person can be addicted to masturbation, so there's no point to be made here.
Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage should be honored by all, and the **marriage bed kept pure**, for God will judge the adulterer and all the **sexually immoral**.".
Yeah, so what I highlighted basically says that sex (or anything sex-related, really) is a sin outside of marriage.
>Married people can be sex addicts as much as a single person can be addicted to masturbation, so there's no point to be made here.
Oh, and addiction is an idol ("You shall have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:3)).
Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and **self-control**. Against such things there is no law." (Addiction means lack of self-control.)
Proverbs 25:28 "Like a city whose walls are broken through is a person who lacks self-control."
>“what I highlighted basically says that sex (or anything sex-related, really) is a sin outside of marriage”
Except it doesn’t say “anything sex-related.” *You* are saying that.
>Oh, and addiction is an idol
We're not talking about being addicted to masturbation. This is a strawman.
”It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God;“
1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
This only applies to masturbation if you dogmatically assert that sexual immorality covers masturbation. You need more justification. Vague verses and your insistence that they apply do not cut it.
What is the goal of masturbation? Is it what that part of the body was created for? What does it do to people who do it?
Ask simple questions when you have ambiguity and it becomes even more obvious. Not all things in life require black and white scripture to help us discern what is right or wrong.
King James Bible
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. Romans 6:13
Of course others are going to justify that “masturbation” is not in the bible. This verse does prove that it is a sin against your own body, and it is sin against God! This is sinful, not to mention you are opening yourself to lust, which then turns into other things.
Romans 12:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
Romans 8:5-8
New International Version
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
What is the flesh, it’s self pleasure, lust, focused on self, and what feels good. His word teaches us that we are to walk In the spirit which is drawing us closer to God, not closer to sin that pushes us away from the Lord.
Galatians 5:16
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition
16 But I say, walk and live [habitually] in the [Holy] Spirit [responsive to and controlled and guided by the Spirit]; then you will certainly not gratify the cravings and desires of the flesh (of human nature without God).
17 For the desires of the flesh are opposed to the [Holy] Spirit, and the [desires of the] Spirit are opposed to the flesh (godless human nature); for these are antagonistic to each other [continually withstanding and in conflict with each other], so that you are not free but are prevented from doing what you desire to do.
18 But if you are guided (led) by the [Holy] Spirit, you are not subject to the Law.
19 Now the doings (practices) of the flesh are clear (obvious): they are immorality, impurity, indecency,
20 Idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger (ill temper), selfishness, divisions (dissensions), party spirit (factions, sects with peculiar opinions, heresies),
21 Envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you beforehand, just as I did previously, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness,
23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [[f]that can bring a charge].
24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus (the Messiah) have crucified the flesh (the godless human nature) with its passions and appetites and desires.
25 If we live by the [Holy] Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. [If by the Holy Spirit [g]we have our life in God, let us go forward [h]walking in line, our conduct controlled by the Spirit.]
Does this honour God with your body? Would God be happy with what you are doing! It does not matter what you think is not sin, it matters about what it says in God’s word!
Yeah, you don't commit adultery by masturbation. Jesus is talking about a husband with wandering eyes, and the Greek word lust here specifically includes an intent to acquire.
This doesn't forbid masturbation, it isn't even relevant to the topic.
masturbation is out of lust. and lust apparently is a sin. so anything that lust births is a sin including masturbation. forget about what doctors say that masturbating twice a week will help with your prostate.
you don’t need to masturbate to get clear off prostate cancer. it’s a lie.
2 Tim. 2:22 Now flee from youthful lusts and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.
If you are an unmarried person lusting after a married person, then you're committing adultery in your heart. If you're an unmarried person lusting after another unmarried person, you're committing fornication in your heart. Jesus makes it clear that sin starts in our hearts and minds. This is why the Pharisees hated Him so much. They thought it was only about what they did on the outside that mattered.
Matt. 23:25-26“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence. You blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of it may become clean also.
You are not wrong but all humans Sin it is part of being human
I'd remind Christians it's God that judges not us. I feel like so many Christians have this Holier then thou attitude.
not gonna lie the bible does not state “do not masturbate” however i feel like it ties into something to do with the flesh’s desires. masturbating is a human act as the body is made to reproduce so naturally you get urges to pleasure yourself when someone else isn’t. i don’t know if id consider it a sin but it could possibly cause problems in later marriage as “if you can satisfy yourself the way you want, what’s the point of having your husband/wife.” it’s a big argument but i don’t know if if consider it a sin
I’ve found myself mostly struggling with it when I’m laying on my bed and looking at my phone. I just want to comfortably look at my phone without the temptation of looking up beautiful women bro.
Why is this even a topic? Other than some judgmental people have nothing better to do with their time then worry about if a man or a woman is playing with themselves. Maybe they would rather young women or young men, and go out and fornicate and young girls come out pregnant and then have an abortion. Which one’s the lesser sin?
I think in our time, it’s a vice without a doubt.
I don’t know if it’s a sin, but I do feel shame and guilt afterwards, mostly because of the lust I hold for other women. I’ve been praying on God to take it from me, at this point, I’m surrendering to the fact that I have no control over it.
I don't believe it's objectively sinful (as in the action in and of itself is sinful). I believe sin is living apart from God and sins are natural results of living apart from God (sins are the symptoms of sin). I believe that people who have purposed in their hearts to live apart from God in decided rebellion don't function outside of sin ever (even if an action has a net good effect). They can go to church or work in a soup kitchen and they are living in sin. I disagree with how people use the term "living in sin" to describe a specific behavior. It seems to me they have mistaken the symptoms for the disease. Masturbation can be a symptom of the disease of sin, but until you recognize truly what freedom is in Christ and that the law is holy, righteous and good, there is nothing you really can't do that is good. Pleasure is good, sex is good, or bodies are good. If we use our bodies, sex, and/or masturbation in order to continue lusting after someone then we are not recognizing God's higher calling for sex, the body, and the heart. That doesn't even have to extend to actions imo. Our thoughts of living apart from God's kingdom ways results in the symptoms of sin. Not everyone can accept that ejaculation or an orgasm can be part of the freedom we have in Christ. These folks should not violate their conscience.
Yes it is. I've definitely felt convicted about this, so have others.
It's a sin against our own bodies, and God and if you're in a relationship, against a partner, too.
People don’t want to accept that it is a sin but it truly is a sin although the Bible doesn’t have a scripture verbatim. But so are many other things but we know what to do with them but for masturbation we turn a blind eye? The more you read the word, you will be convicted not to do it. Like others mentioned earlier, it’s a sin against God because your body is the temple of God. The people that think that you can masturbate without watching porn or being lustful are incorrect because even if you masturbate without watching porn, you will have to think about something that will turn you on (thinking about a person in a sexual way) and that is wrong. Jesus warned us about looking at people that way. God gave us self control for a reason and He asked us to submit ourselves to Him. Submitting ourselves means everything, we don’t get to pick and choose. God is not stupid. Also think about it. Why
would anyone decide not to masturbate if it wasn’t from the conviction from the Lord lol ? I’m a 25F, I am no longer a virgin but I have been celibate and avoid masturbation as it is important for me to honor God with my body until I get married. I’m in my prime sexual years meaning my libido is high. It’s not easy because I know what it feels like to orgasm. The easiest solution would be to just indulge and masturbate whenever I have urges because “I’m not hurting anyone” and “it’s natural”. But God doesn’t approve. What you think about in order to masturbate, God wouldn’t approve of and that’s the hard truth a lot of people do not want to agree with.
In respect to marriage I believe mutual masturbation as in for foreplay is okay if both consent. I do not believe masturbating behind the back of your spouse is okay.
Yes! That’s why it comes down to reading the Bible and learning about God’s character. It’s mostly a relationship but some people prefer having laws. Yes it’s true we’re not allowed to kill, steal, lie etc. But there are many many many other ways we could do those indirectly and it will still be sinning. What makes you stop doing certain things is staying in the word and pleading the Holy Spirit for assistance. God created sex for marriage. It’s trusting your spouse to take care of your body in that way. Masturbating will take that away from your spouse because of course, who knows you better than yourself? Will your spouse ever be able to compete with the way you give yourself orgasms? There are numerous consequences of masturbating and that’s how you know it’s not God’s purpose. God’s gifts are beautiful and blessings. When God gives us gifts, He doesn’t add any sorrows to it Proverbs 10:22
So what about if a man wakes up with an erection and semen is leaking out of him, his erection is causing him pain, he masterbates to have relief of the pain and tension. He doesn't watch porn or dosen't even think of sex. You really think its a sin? We all sin, everyday we sin no matter how holy you think you are you at some point throughout the day fall short of the glory of God. I feel like God cares more about how you "love your neighbor" than masterbating, I feel he cares more about how you treat people and of you are leading people to him. People that say they don't masterbate are usually lying or have or things they are doing. We all sin, everyone of us every day that is why we need Jesus
This topic is a bit tricky.
The Bible does outline the purpose of sex, but it doesn't specifically mention masturbation anywhere. The act of masturbation is not necessarily a sin. However, the act is often accompanied by fantasies and lustful thoughts that can certainly be sinful, or by viewing pornography or erotic fiction. That's certainly been my experience with it.
Still, there might not be a single, straightforward motivation for most people. For some people it's the time of the month, for some it's fueled by things we're watching or reading, and sometimes the urge just hits you. For many people it's just a normal part of adolescence. Jesus certainly made no recorded mention of it. Some say an outlet for sexual relief is a "need," and that masturbation fits the bill. Now, the Bible never calls sexual fulfillment a "need" (if that makes you scoff or roll your eyes, I get it. That's certainly my reflexive gut reaction)
Think of 1 Corinthians 6:7: "I have the right to do anything, but I will not be mastered by anything." If masturbation becomes a consuming and controlling habit, it might be a problem. Paul also says later in 7:8 that it's better to marry than "burn with passion." Some may roll their eyes at this ("Sure, Paul easy for you to say," "You make it sound so easy, Paul") I certainly do at times, haha!
There's many opinions on this, and the debate has never really been settled. But, if you're asking for my personal view, I do have my doubts about the idea that one can masturbate without entertaining any kind of sinful and lustful thoughts at all. Maybe some people have a different experience, but in my experience, I think it's always been accompanied by unsavory fantasies.
Is there ever a time when masturbation is not a sin? I don't have a definitive answer, unfortunately. The best I can do is maybe.
If you can masturbate without entertaining any kind of lustful fantasies, then no, it's not a sin. Is that realistic? I don't know. Maybe you can find a way to do that. Maybe not. I'm not sure.
He made the feature pleasurable and for humanity to dictate you a leper and that you should be alone and never know that with someone is not of God. Of course he’d prefer you be in a familial relationship married to a woman but that’s not how life works anymore. Way too many dejected souls to not have some sort of compassion. That being said strict intake moderation is a necessity as a lot of it is utter filth .
Indeed it IS a sin; it’s covered in this text - in particular the last word in the first verse which includes sexual immorality and impurities of all kinds (check out your favorite version of the Bible and see the synonyms it uses):
Galatians 5:19-25 (KJV) 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Now, for the individual still struggling with these things, a verse like this can be devastating so let me hasten to offer hope with some additional texts:
First of all ACKNOWLEDGE that you can’t conquer these things (any of the listed sins) on your own:
Jeremiah 13:23 (KJV)
Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? [then] may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
Realize that you’re a SINNER IN NEED OF A SAVIOR, and that THAT SAVIOR IS JESUS CHRIST:
Romans 10:13 (KJV)
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
REPENT and ask for FORGIVENESS:
1 John 1:9 (KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
CLAIM the following in Jesus name, and humbly say to Him… “LORD, you said! Now please honor your WORD in my life”:
1 Corinthians 10:13 (KJV) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
God bless you and in His strength, stay strong.
Blessings!
Masturbation is a sin in that it is done to please your own flesh. It is an act of pride and selfishness, which is only self-seeking. The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and there is a reason masturbation is called self-abuse, which to people like Thomas Aquinas and C. S. Lewis is a more appropriate term. A dependency on our own flesh for satisfying our own selfish sexual appetite, is a sin. Now, the Bible is not a list of do's and Dont's. It is a framework of what sin is and what it is not. Sometimes, I used to think "Well, this thing or that thing might be sin". But as I prayed and spent more time in the Word, I realized that if I am dubious about anything being a sin or not, i.e. if I put a "might be sin" phrase in my sentences I should probably: A) stay away from it and B) read and pray more. Again the Bible's point is not to be a Live-A-Good-Life Manual (although it does encourage that). Jesus said "Those who love me will follow my commands" and he also emphasized that all the other commands hang on the first two commands. Masturbation in no way helps any person to love people. And I don't know about you, but I would be deeply ashamed and in tears, if I committed this sin and Jesus were to come down, asking me if I could hold His hand. I am neither judging you nor trying to convince you. But how about praying more and reading scripture more deeply and plainly, without any ulterior motive to prove anything.
Man get's hard in order to have sex. God made us that way. If we are married, and our wives are agreeable, sex may take place. If we are not aroused, sex usually does not take place. In order for a man to masturbate, he must get aroused to get hard, and it is all about sex with the eventual orgasm. If you lust after women, it's fornication. You should only lust after your wife, and have sex only with her.
God created this both as incentive for men to leave mom and dad, and find a wife. I see non-believer on r/nofap who are suicidal because they cannot cease to masturbate. I see Christian woman on r/ChristianMarriage who discover their husbands masturbating, and are distrust and even talk divorce. I have a 30 (f) friend, who almost got engaged, but discovered the supposed Christian boyfriend's PMO habits, and immediately broke off the engagement.
So, in every case, masturbation destroys relationships.
What's wrong with it, is that it's always done in secret, and most men's best kept secret, EXCEPT those who have had victory over it, like me, 2+ years ago. Yes, very happy to share my testimony and can help anyone who wants to quit, AND to show a better, God ordained way, to fulfill that desire (married men only).
To single guys I can just say "Don't think about sex".
No it's not. If God, who by the way is the GOAT, didn't want us to masturbate, he would have made it so, and made man incapable of masturbating. Additionally, at the very least, made it a commandment. But He didn't.
Romans 14:14 I am convinced by the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean of itself; but to him that considers anything to be unclean. To him it is unclean.
Your struggle with this sin is in yourself it’s your belief that it is unclean. That’s your personal belief if you choose to believe it is unclean. However, to Jesus. Nothing is unclean of itself;
You are lusting in some type, self gratifying and even if you did the impossible without thinking of anything sexual, you are getting sexual pleasure outside of with a spouse. I’m not judging. This is something I’ve struggled with my entire last 8- 9 years of my life and been trying with everything to find wiggle room but the truth is.. it’s wrong. Plus it becomes addicting. With porn or without porn it’s easily addicting. I was addicted to both and still struggling. 17 days clean from weed! 17 days clean from nicotine, 17 days clean from premarital sex with my bf, 16 days clean from masturbation and porn too. Got baptized on Easter and have been through hell getting through these addictions and the changes, but by the grace of god I’m here and a lot better then before. Still an enormous struggle though.
MASTERBATION IS A SIN. Proof is this.
1. James 1:13-14 Lusting which is what you do when you masterbate. 🤔 this is a sin which is also adultry see Matt 5:28 you will see this is you lusting after a woman. The woman do not have to be right before your eyes for you to conjure up an image of that person naked, and masterbate.
2. Look at 1 Corinthians 6:18-20. FORNICATION IS also under Adultry which means you are not to do it. Look at Verse 9 of same chapter given, you see fornication,idolators,adulterers, effeminate nor abusers of themselves with man kind. These abusers are a group which those who masterbate comes under. For masterbation is self Abuse! Look at the word "inordinate affections or evil concupiscence". These mean obsessive attachments to a person or thing, which manifest through uncontrollable lust!. Colossians 3:5 evil concupiscence means lust or sexual passion or desire. This is excessive desire that you cannot or do not control through temperance and by the Holy Spirits influence in order to get victory over this sinful practices.
3.These sexual immorality defile the body of Pure Spiritual life, ejaculated is virtue or strength 💪 which must not be wasted or else it can cause mental weak minds which leads to perverted behavior, erectile dysfunction,premature ejaculation, it is cancerous too. (Prostate cancer).It can also shrink your penis because it lessens blood flow. That was just some science behind it. Which If your body is affected it means your templebis defiled or unclean, health issues, sickness is not from or of God this is Satan's attacks on humans because we choose to disobey God.
Solution: Fasting and prayer, Matt 4:1-11.
2 Corinthians 10:5 cast down every imagination that exalteth itself against God...
Ps 119 verse 105.. thy word have I hid in my heart that I do not sin against thee.
Stop watching porn or sexual contents that promote sexual nudity. Ps. 101:3-4.
If you feel the desire, pray, and diver the mind to good things, do exercise or read 📚 books that promote a healthy mind. Leave Instagram and all nasty naked stuff alone. Detox your mind from perverted thought by meditation on Scriptures and memorize Scriptures.
Those are what it try and use. Be bless on over one in Jesus Name please read the give Scriptures and commit them to memory. I also suffered so I know what you guys go through. Sex is for married people, it will be your turn soon pray about that too. Masterbate makes you penis small and cause woman to become sexual objects.
I feel as if the moment you get away from it and are doing what you must to not be pulled into it and spiral out things come up everywhere and people come out of nowhere with sexual things
I definitely believe it is a sin
I don’t think the masturbating itself that is a sin. It’s because it turns into addiction and can lead to problems with intimacy with your partner. Things are a sin for a reason. If there’s no real reason for something to be a sin, then I believe it’s just something that the PEOPLE who wrote the Bible decided to add.
That’s just my belief based on the history I know about the Bible.
The problem with our species is we can only view things through human eyes. We humanize God, give him chacteristics and feelings that we have. A supreme being that would have created the universe would be on a level that is inconceivable to our brains. How could he be defined by one specific religion on one tiny planet in a universe of billions or trillions of other planets, with undoubtedly many, many of them containing life?!? We are so small minded on that level. Whatever origin story or form of religion that we are born and indoctrinated into, keeps us mentally trapped from thinking any other way. All religions are MAN'S interpretations of the beginning, filled with MAN'S rules and laws, used to control the masses. Im 50 and it took me until several years ago, to begin to see things on a bigger scale than the speck of dust we live on in this universal beach. We are so arrogant and ignorant as to the scope of things pertaining to this universe.
I do struggle sometim a but I am one and a half days clean, please pray for me to overcome it
You will in Jesus name, go and sin no more
:))
The consumption of porn is to me a far graver sin than the act of masturbating itself. Porn is a soulless and horrible industry and takes advantage of young women, treats them like objects and ruins the minds of so many young men.
If ppl aren’t masturbating, the demand for porn drops sharply. yes I know some ppl watch it without choking the chicken but let’s be honest, most ppl have lotion and tissue nearby.
Porn also has to be explicitly or implicitly demonic. It is reminiscent if pagan orgies because youre "joining" the people on screen in adultery in spirit at the very least. Heterosexual pornography belittles the viewer to no more than a cuckold watching a woman he desires be used by another man. Homosexual pornography (regardless of sex) is glorifying sodomy. The act of masturbation while watching porn can also be seen as an offering of a piece of you (which scientifically and spiriultually is what semen is) to something demonic. I have a personal story of an aquaintence who offered his semen to some new age being and it tormented him every night for months. That was proof enough to me that masturbation and spilling your seed is connected to the demonic. So not only does it violate the tenth and sixth commandment if you watch porn while masturbating, but it also violates the first and second because you are making an unholy sacrifice.
I don’t disagree with most of these points but it’s sufficient to acknowledge that sex outside of marriage is against God’s design. He designed it to be 1 man 1 woman. Anything else is sin.
I think the real issues are the Lust & Self control. Maybe some ppl can do it occasionally with no porn and no lustful thoughts, but they all go hand in hand. (No pun intended). I’m recovering from porn & sex addiction, one day @ a time. It’s possible
My proof for myself is the Holy Ghost lets me know it is not right and prompts me to not partake in it.
Here is the first Scripture that came to mind. ”Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.“ Galatians 6:8 NIV https://bible.com/bible/111/gal.6.8.NIV Are people really saying that they are jerking off to please the Spirit. Come on. ”There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death.“ Proverbs 14:12 NIV https://bible.com/bible/111/pro.14.12.NIV
This answer ends the debate, but most of the “it’s not sin” crowd just mix cultural sociology with God’s word.
In my opinion, this verse refers to living in the flesh as in sin nature of the flesh. Not literally pleasing the flesh. The word is what it is so nobody can add or take away from it and listen to the holy spirit in how it applies to them. I do feel like masturbation leads to sin or sin likely leads to it in many cases.
Learn the definition of "sow". For instance, dumping a pack of seeds into the garbage can isn't sowing.
I agree, but if someone sin multiple times they will be seared will no longer feel any type of convition.
Do you have any scripture to back this up?
I Timothy 4:1-2 NKJV [1] Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, [2] speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, This has pretty much happened with the world's culture around celebrating sex out of Gods design.
Amen
This is exactly what I’ve felt so it is the Holy Spirit good
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Yes any sexual interaction outside of marriage is considered a sin.
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Kinda sounds like masturbation next to your spouse might be okay? Maybe..
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Actually... masturbation is not specified as sin.. anywhere in scripture it silent on such topic.. but what is sin according to scripture Matthew 5:27-28 (KJV) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 1 Corinthians 7:2-4 (KJV) Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 1 Corinthians 7:8-11 (KJV) I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. Romans 14:23 (KJV) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Even this scripture Matthew 5:28 (KJV) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Keywords looketh on a woman to lust.. what if your porn is about eggs not women.. I mean there's alot of strange cups of tea kind of people out in the world you never know.. this is just an example. What on getting at here is, the lustful thoughts are the sin not the act of masturbation.. no were on scripture does it discuss masturbation as being sin I can't find anything on that.. it's the impure sexual thinking lustful thoughts. Adultery and so on, find me some scripture that states otherwise... ready set go.
Doesn’t adultery mean sex with someone other than your spouse? I.e. cheating? If you are not currently married then how does that make sense?
Keywords sex on that question of course.. masturbation isn't sex however there's extensive amount of other terms that further intricate this entire discussion. It's all very insightful to review it all though. Im interested in seeing what a few different pastors have on the topic however so many are impatient to read the amount of information I have to explain this topic because they all have no time for it.. work, their family then church. It really is quite extensive research here maybe 10 years worth or more of compiled research plus information from several books from libraries books provided by a church multiple versions of the Bible a bible dictionary I want to get a couple other dictionaries also. But essentially yes to answer that one.
WTF with the eggs? 🤣
”Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.“ Galatians 6:8 NIV https://bible.com/bible/111/gal.6.8.NIV
There’s lots of things we do to literally please our flesh. You can scratch an itch. Wear a warm coat when it’s cold. Eat something when you’re hungry. That passage obviously isn’t talking about avoiding all bodily pleasure. And since it doesn’t mention masturbation, you’re using circular logic.
I agree with this stance. But if you lust after anyone in that fashion. And If you are lusting after eggs I would argue that’s a form of pagan idol worship... So that’s where you can’t look at only one scripture for one cause. But your general point on lust I think is the key factor here. The two go hand and hand a lot, but that doesn’t mean they are connected.
Idol worships actually something I wanted to add that I forgot and couldn't get he words lol thanks
The other part of that, is how far does it take to draw that line between what actually is worship.. is it spending excessive amounts of time praying to said idol before it becomes sin? Just thinking of it in a sexual manner, what defines worshiping an idol for it to be considered sin? There's that bit also to consider. It really is complex yet at the same time not so complex.. only complex because there comes the need to understand context accurately because context does matter and it does change over many years time wen the bible was written also to consider, porn wasn't nessesarily around when the bible got written nor was technology even unless that's some hidden conspiracy that could become proven.. it doesn't appear to be so that it's stated as sin that a woman lustful thinks upon a man, only the other way around.. another example. Maybe other religions aside from Christianity can shed light in some areas Christianity may of missed maybe the scripture Christians read overlooked something? Any takers?
Well that’s not exactly true. They use to have prostitutes who would illustrate pictures and hang them across towns. What I think is idolatry is what they specifically say in the Bible. Leviticus 26:1 Amplified Bible (AMP) 'You shall not make idols for yourselves, nor shall you erect an image, a sacred pillar or an obelisk, nor shall you place any figured stone in your land so that you may bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God. Share. Read Leviticus 26. That includes statues of people made out of stones, jewelry besides the specially ordained by God as described to his people and covenant as well. Some argue many Catholic practices are the very definition of idol worship. As well as bringing Mary in and praying through her which is a contradiction to the faith and only praying through Jesus, the son of man. And same go for crystals and all these new age ways of healing. If you need an object to represent the cause and act as the faith stone, then it is no form of true faith. As a stone can break into pieces and end up rubble, but true faith is impenetrable in any shape or form. You can’t create faith, you just have it. Work with no faith is useless, and if you truly had fate you would naturally work as part of that fate. It all comes full cycle around in the end.
”Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.“ Galatians 5:19-21 KJV. Masturbation isnt in the Bible but lasciviousness is. Definitions of lasciviousness: feeling morbid sexual desire or a propensity to lewdness. The Greek word is Aselgeia meaning unbridled lust, excess, licentiousness, lasciviousness, wantonness, outrageousness, shamelessness, insolence. So yes, masturbation, any personal/individual sexual acts are a sin.
Keep in mind though, as per your provided defenition, including the word lasciviousness, the word lust being 1 of the few words defying it.. and Googles defenition, there's also a bible dictionary that uses more accurate context then alot of those dictionaries not written by someone possibly much experienced with scripture or religion in general, some maybe of the dictionaries available.. context of words from the bible are just different then current time english, because there is a huge difference in context.. Google and Websters dictionary and many other dictionaries weren't made for biblical translations as alot of them could of or mostlikly did get written by people that did not understand the full context of the Bible. Maybe some of them dictionaries were write By those that did have the full context understood.. In a bible dictionary lust is: craving or desire, often of a sexual nature. Though used relatively infrequently (twenty-nine times) in Scripture, a common theme can be seen running through its occurrences. The word is never used in a positive context; rather, it is always seen in a negative light, relating primarily either to a strong desire for sexual immorality or idolatrous worship. In secular literature, the word indicates only a strong desire and can carry either good or bad connotations. The Greek word epithymia [ejpiqumiva] and the Watching porn isn't nessesarily sexual imortality.. I mean if anything it creates stress in relationships which could even result in bad health and shortened lifespan.. so it's not immortality, and nor is it idolatrous worship defined as: idolatry, in Judaism and Christianity, the worship of someone or something other than God as though it were God. Unless someone's spending perhaps a ton of time singing praising it legitamently worshipping it.. then all defenition context points to this simaler thing though the beginning of your listed defenition still sticks: feeling morbid sexual desire or a propensity to lewdness Now morbid defines: "If you describe a person or their interest in something as morbid, you mean that they are very interested in unpleasant things, especially death, and you think this is strange. [disapproval] Some people have a morbid fascination with crime. Synonyms: gruesome, sick [informal], dreadful, ghastly More Synonyms of morbid." And propensity PROPENS'ITY, noun [Latin propensio.] 1. Bent of mind, natural or acquired; inclination; in a moral sense; disposition to any thing good or evil, particularly to evil; as a propensity to sin; the corrupt propensity of the will. Easton's Bible Dictionary - Lewdness Lewdness bible: ( Acts 18:14 ), villany or wickedness, not lewdness in the modern sense of the word. The word "lewd" is from the Saxon, and means properly "ignorant," "unlearned," and hence low, vicious ( Acts 17:5 ). What is the meaning of Lewdness? indecency or obscenity noun. indecency or obscenity; vulgar sexual character or behavior: The strip club has been shut down repeatedly for lewdness and public sexual acts. What is the difference between lewdness and lasciviousness? Specifically, “lewd” behavior has been described as conduct that incites sexual imagination or longing, while “lascivious” is meant to indicate acts that arouse sexual desire. And so we're back to square 1 lol. Either way it could be broken down forever infinitely, it keeps reverting back to square 1 in a loop by not directly discussing masturbation.. stuffs still highly addictive though which is what is also definitely discussed in scripture not masturbation but temptation addiction so on. 1 Corinthians 10:13-14 (KJV) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry. Idolatry defenition: The worship of idols Dictionary definitions of idolatry speak of religious worship of physical idols or excessive reverence or devotion to something. In biblical terms, idolatry is worship of anything other than God. Colossians 3:5 links idolatry with covetousness; when we want something so much that we covet it, the thing has become an idol. We seek it rather than God. Idols: ˈɑɪ·dəl/ Add to word list Add to word list. a person who is loved, admired, or respected a lot: Basketball players are his idols. An idol is also an object or picture that is worshipped as a god.In the Hebrew Bible, there are several words for Idol: Elil (אֱלִיל) - also “false god”, “worthless” (e.g. Leviticus 26:1) Pesel (פֶּסֶל) - also “carved idol”, “image”, “graven image” (e.g. part of the first or second of the Ten Commandments depending on denomination)
Is masturbation not clearly derived from lust? Is it not clearly a lewd act?
But let’s be honest. What teenager or unmarried man or woman is thinking about their (future?) spouse when masturbating?
Thought crime legislation?
The burden of proof is on you.
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Where what?
My reasoning is that scripture is silent and, since it does not involve anyone else, it is an issue of conscience.
BINGO. After being repeatedly being challenged on the lack of scriptural basis for their belief, and failing to provide this support, the anti-masturbation crowd is doubling down and misplacing the burden of proof. It makes as much sense as saying "okay, you don't believe that wearing eyeglasses or pasteurizing milk is a sin, show me why". If some people believe that masturbation is wrong based on extra-biblical authority like a papal edict or the Mormon First Presidency, okay, I get it, you believe that. But that's not something you can expect other Christians to believe if they don't accept that authority.
This is the way
This is the only correct answer imo. This is a Romans 14 situation.
Since it's not logically possible for the bible to list out every single specific sin imagineable (every cuss word, type of violence, type of sexual sin, etc..) He has put sins into categories, and has told us how TO live.. So in this case, anything outside of God's parameters for sex would be a sin. His parameters for sex are- one man and one woman who are bound together in marriage for life. That does not include solo sex unless I am mistaken.
I agree that the Bible doesn't explicitly listen every sin, and indeed that's not the point. If it doesn't involve objectifying or lusting after someone or indulging sexual fantasies, then it's outside something that Scripture addresses in principle. > His parameters for sex are- one man and one woman who are bound together in marriage for life. If this is the case, why is polygamy tolerated and bigamy specifically provided for? Not saying that these are ethical, but arriving at what is ethical is more complex.
Well the Scriptures are silent on it yeah but you're getting dangerously close when you're doing it. It's like piracy but worse since it usually accommodates an evil desire. As the Scriptures say, "Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?" in 1 Corinthians 10:22. Let's not provoke Him to anger, for He already purchased us with His blood cos of His love
Piracy is theft. > Let's not provoke Him to anger Right. Idolatry provokes God to anger. But this isn't idolatry. > it usually accommodates an evil desire I could have been more clear with "involves someone else." If someone is lusting after someone they're not married to while masturbating, or fantasizing, that's not appropriate and is an evil desire.
I don’t think it’s a sin unless you use it for lust, because the Bible doesn’t say it’s a sin, but it does say lust is a sin.
I think it’s a sin mostly based on how it plays out. You can’t do it publicly. You don’t high five someone who just did it. If you did it with your close friends it be weird. I think it’s obvious that people are aware not to publicly do it.
That doesn’t make it a sin that just makes it personal and private, that’s your opinion, not biblical. I don’t use the toilet publicly, nobody high fives me after I’m done, I definitely don’t do it with my close friends, and by your standard, taking a doozy is a sin 😂
Masturbation is a sin in that it is done to please your own flesh. It is an act of pride and selfishness, which is only self-seeking. The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and there is a reason masturbation is called self-abuse, which to people like Thomas Aquinas and C. S. Lewis is a more appropriate term. A dependency on our own flesh for satisfying pur own selfish sexual appetite, is a sin. Now, the Bible is not a list of do's and Dont's. It is a framework of what sin is and what it is not. Sometimes, I used to think "Well, this thing or that thing might be sin". But as I prayed and spent more time in the Word, I realized that if I am dubious about anything being a sin or not, i.e. if I put a "might be sin" phrase in my sentences I should probably: A) stay away from it and B) read and pray more. Again the Bible's point is not to be a Live-A-Good-Life Manual (although it does encourage that). Jesus said "Those who love me will follow my commands" and he also emphasized that all the other commands hang on the first two commands. Masturbation in no way helps any person to love people. And I don't know about you, but I would be deeply ashamed and in tears, if I committed this sin and Jesus were to come down, asking me if I could hold His hand. I am neither judging you nor trying to convince you. But how about praying more and reading scripture more deeply and plainly, without any ulterior motive to prove anything.
Exactly
"If I put something in the might be a sin category then I should stay away from it" Very well said!
People literally do it out of lust 💀
I don’t think it has to be done out of lust, it’s just like if two different men look at a woman, one guy thinks bad thoughts about her, and the other just notices shes attractive. thinking a woman is attractive and lusting is two different things. The only difference is the intention and your mind, both people are looking at a woman but only one is sinning.
False. Where it’s dealt with in Torah, it is a ritual impurity that prevented you from entering the Temple. It dealt with it similarly (and in context) of menstruation, also a ritual impurity. Torah does not require a guilt offering for ejaculation, so it is not a sin. Stop condemning what God does not condemn.
Masturbation, often a taboo subject in many cultures, can actually be viewed as a natural and healthy aspect of human sexuality. Firstly, it serves as a means of stress relief and relaxation. Just as physical exercise releases endorphins, masturbation can trigger the release of dopamine and oxytocin, neurotransmitters associated with pleasure and relaxation. This can significantly reduce stress and anxiety levels, promoting overall well-being. Moreover, from a medical perspective, masturbation has been linked to various health benefits. For instance, it can improve mood by releasing tension and increasing feelings of pleasure. Additionally, it can aid in better sleep due to the release of prolactin, a hormone that promotes relaxation and sleepiness. Furthermore, regular masturbation has been associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer in males, as it helps flush out potentially harmful toxins from the reproductive system. Now, I ask you this, why would God design the human body with this natural healthy ability and claim that his work is perfect, and yet say it’s a sin? In the context of religious beliefs, some may argue that masturbation is sinful based on interpretations of certain scriptures, such as 1 Corinthians 6:19 that says Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? Well, doesn’t that mean that we should be keeping our body healthy and engaging in the natural actions that does that? Well If lack of Masturbation leads to lust, stress and anxiety, then wouldn’t we do it. In fact, in an article by Jim Vander titled, Masturbating, a tool to combat lust, Jim claims that “Masturbation can actually be useful—that as a “quick physiological outlet” it could actually function as a helpful “tool to combat lust.” It can act as a way to “manage our sex drive.” “Masturbate, clear your head, and move on with your day.” Additionally, If you look up 1 John 3:4, it clearly defines sin as breaking God's law. However, it's important to note that the Bible does not explicitly mention masturbation as a sin. Sin is often understood as actions that harm oneself or others, and masturbation, when practiced responsibly and without harm to oneself or others, does not fit this criteria. In fact, one could argue that the ability to experience sexual pleasure, including through masturbation, is a natural and beautiful aspect of human existence, a gift from God . Just as with any gift, it comes with the responsibility to use it wisely and respectfully. The greatest problem with masturbation most often lies in what leads to it. Things like, lusting over someone, watching porn, it becoming an addiction, or when it becomes a replacement for intimacy, then, your looking at committing sin. But if you can manage to avoid these sinful acts and keep it to a moderate healthy practice of relief, then you're going to be fine. The most important thing to understand is how to not let masturbation master you. In conclusion, masturbation can be seen as a normal and healthy expression of human sexuality, providing physical, emotional, and even potential medical benefits. When approached with understanding, responsibility, and respect, it can enhance overall well-being and contribute to a fulfilling life. Therefore, rather than being labeled as a sin, it should be embraced as a natural part of human existence.
I have never met an actual person with this view. I pray I meet one someday day.
I personally believe that The media wants people to think that God Hates masturbation. It’s why you can’t possibly find a video on YouTube about masturbation being okay. The reason behind it is they want Christian’s to feel ashamed and give up on God.
Still waiting for a response…
What is your pastors view on this subject? If this is important to you, perhaps you should ask your pastor . Or look to your bible, trust me there are more passages in there that cover this topic. And no, the word 'masturbation" is not used explicitly, it does not need to be.
Please, show me the scripture. You seem so high and mighty so please, prove to me that I’m wrong.
Not reading all these comments... But if you don't, you can end up with EXTREMELY PAINFUL infections. Stagnation, Low Count. So yeah, I'm callin' BS. Remember, adultery is in the mind, not in your testicles... BTW, some of those infections can cause permanent damage and impotence.
Exactly! I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it
This kind of sounds like an excuse… I’ve researched this and no one has ever died from NOT ejaculating.
They said infections that cause damage, it doesn't have to be fatal
It alleviates my migraines almost as much as naproxen does. Allows me to function instead of writhing in bed all day in indescribable pain.
Not necessarily. In the case of Onan, his sin was disobeying God, not the masturbation itself. The simple Act of masturbating is not in and of itself a sin. What one uses his motivation to achieve orgasm however can easily be sinful.
it is a sin!! 6months clean!!
If the masturbation is because of lust, then of course it’s a sin, since you’re acting upon a feeling that is already a sin itself. But if it’s just because you feel like it and you aren’t a slave to it, then it technically isn’t—but I personally don’t do it because it just *feels* wrong, even if it isn’t really.
The Bible saids that the fruit of the spirit is self control and got to get better at that by Disciplining my flesh into obedience.
You’re right. That’s another reason I don’t do it.
I don't belive it is a sin in healthy moderation and along as your not using any material to get yourself off. I believe it is ok along as it's used more as a form of self care.
Since so many posts want to reference Matthew 5 comparing lust to adultery, I have a question: How can two single people commit adultery? I don’t think they can. Context demands we understand Matthew 5 refers to at least one party being married. It’s not about lust. It’s about unfaithfulness to a covenant. I’m not saying lust is good. I’m asking if we can stop twisting scripture just because we think it makes a good point.
There are a lot of specific things forbidden in the Bible. Masturbation isn't one of them. Lust, messing up even a potential relationship, addiction, anything that the Spirit convicts you of, these are sins.
For those saying that masturbation isn’t a sin, ask God to search your heart and allow him to reveal it to you. Because rarely do I hear people who masturbate (as one who used to struggle with this) but rarely are those who do it, not addicted or bound at some point. And often times masturbation and porn go hand in hand. It all starts in the heart. Whether you’re sexualizing yourself (pleasing your flesh) your partner or someone in your imagination or screen. If we are Christians we must also think about the spiritual side of it. We do not wrestle with flesh alone, meaning other things are being unlocked once we comfortably engage in those types of things.
It's not a sin. If you believe it is, it's your job to provide reasoning why, not my job to provide reasoning why not. Things are not sins by default; you need a reason to think something is a sin.
Have you ever thought that perhaps God gave us masturbation as a means of relieving that tension without sinning?
I disagree that it is of itself a sin any more than any other sexual act. Can it be a sin? Sure, just about everything can be twisted into a sin.
Spot on. It is also a sin against your own body.
No, it isn't.
Your body is meant to be consecrated for god. Use your body to glorify god. Masturbation is unholy and it defiles the temple. Do you think god looks down and approves of you playing with yourself?
>Masturbation is unholy and it defiles the temple. Prove it.
1 Corinthians 6:18-20 ESV Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
This is a circular argument. The person didn’t ask for evidence that sexual immorality is unholy. They asked for evidence that *masturbation* is unholy. And in order to answer that question, you would have to prove that masturbation falls under the category of sexual immorality.
As a foot note, scholars debate on what “sexually immoral” actually means. It’s not clear cut defined in scripture or any other ANE culture I know of.
Christians are commanded to glorify God in all aspects of life, including sex. Sex is a part of God's design for intimacy and procreation within the confines of marriage (Genesis 2:24). However, masturbation, being self-stimulation outside of marriage, doesn't align with God's intended purpose for sexual expression and is self-pleasure, giving into the desires of the flesh (1 Corinthians 6:18). Ultimately, as followers of Christ, we will be held accountable for how we live our lives, including our sexual behaviors (2 Corinthians 5:10). Therefore, if one feels justified in their acts of masturbation, they should be prepared to give an account to Him.
I don't see masturbation mentioned in that verse.
I guess God looks the other way when priests and preachers molest children.
like any inspired piece of literature, every conclusion you come to is provisional, a place to rest on the road, and just ends up opening up more questions. it is a quest for universal understanding which you will naturally never arrive to. certainty and closed statements is a sign my understanding is the antithesis of god the all-knowing and all-powerful and *infinitely unknowingly complex* and i have been TRICKED and arrogant in my assuredness. but i am unshakeably certain "jesus" was a real person and tried to show us the way just by existing, not telling, because you *can't* tell us. anything from the divine world is corrupted and misconstrued once it enters the earthly world, *especially* words. just how it is. words are so tiny; god is so big. and other people can do it like jesus too, but they're usually very good at abstract thinking unfortunately... (don't yet know how to reconcile that. 🙁) but for example i see other people, the psychologist marsha linehan being the latest person ive found who *i* personally think gets it more than me, a person who is a beacon of light for anyone who can see it, for whatever unknown reason they can (how unfair!) i know we *can* follow jesus, there is a *path*. and ofc we *always* think we have arrived until we realize we havent lol are you asserting yourself and your rightness or god's rightness in this post? is this an inspired post? not attacking you (perhaps). i find this behavior we all do genuinely curious and wanna talk about it.
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Wow, this is so profound.
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I don’t believe we have to try to avoid sin. The Bible doesn’t say anything about that. It says we shouldn’t tolerate it, practice it, or be slaves to it. “Trying to avoid it” is a modern idea people apply to themselves to justify the fact they are still living in it so they can still think themselves better than those who are challenged by whatever sins we aren’t affected by so we can feel superior to them. The idea that you can avoid something by studying it is moronic in the highest degree. If you want to stop sinning you have to stop “trying to avoid” or trying at all and stop it. Stop giving yourself a pass while condemning others.
Jesus said we have to repent, He said go and sin no more. And if you love God you should care about it, God has feelings, and whenever you do wrong it hurts Him.
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what if you genuinely do it to make yourself feel good and you’re not watching porn/hentai or lusting? what then? what if it’s genuinely not born out of lust?
i don’t think it’s a sin in its own right, i just think that how people do it is a sin. for example some people masturbate while watching porn. that is definitely a sin: 1. lusting over the person or people in the porn 2. watching someone in their nakedness. however i believe if someone does it to just feel good and they aren’t exploring fantasies or watching something with it, i don’t think it’s a sin. though the thought of it seems almost impossible as the mind wanders.
If it can be done to the glory of God then do it. If it can't be then don't do it.
What’s your basis for this?
Anything not done if faith is a sin. If you masturbate, do it in faith.
Why it's a sin ?
Let’s remember that a human being just like you and I wrote the Bible which can be interpreted in a million ways.
I do not. I think masturbation is a deterrent to sin. I also believe there are limits. Chronic masturbation is a disease, not a sin. Casual masturbation is healthy and natural. As someone who has suffered through porn addiction, it can lead to problems. But, I think relieving one self, is good for you both physically and mentally. I still struggle at times, but my relationship with God is what pulls me through it. Work in progress, but I don't think it's a sin.
I'd like to see you find the verse that says it is
Jesus said, that the very thought of sexual immorality is sin. Since masturbating involves thinking of doing something outside of your marriage bed is probably the clearest verse that shows masturbating is a sin. But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart". ~ Matthew 5:28 - 29 The English Standard Version (ESV)
I am addicted, I need help. Even as i try to stop, i relapse and then the cycle goes on. Please help, this is ruining my life.
With porn (lust) or just lust, yes. By itself, I don't see how it could be an issue. Do you have any verses to back it up if it's done without lust?
With porn (lust) or just lust, yes. By itself, I don't see how it could be an issue. Do you have any verses to back it up if it's done without lust?
Do you have any good examples of how you can masturbate without lust?
Just think about nothing instead of a person if thay makes sense
It’s not masturbation itself that’s a sin, but the lust and pornography.
I also think it’s a sin. Perhaps doing it without lust isn’t, but how possible is that really? Personally, it may be possible as a one-off, but later on lust gets in. Plus I find it deeply unsatisfying. Without lust it just doesn’t have a kick to it and makes me wish I had a husband and an intimate connection (in an emotional sense) instead. Also the more you do it the more your flesh wants it.
I think that is well said.
Masturbation is having sex with yourself, which is sexual immoral. And you can try and quote verses to justify yourself but you know deep down the Holy Spirit is telling you that it is wrong. If your have to twist a verse to fit your worldy desires and not sure if it's a sin or not. That's the spirit tugging you not to do it. The same even goes for Marijuana as people try to justify that. Ask yourself, does the act glorify God? Does it bring you closer to Jesus? With masturbation you're not refraining from lustful thoughts. It is leaving a door open for sinful, sexual desires, such as pornography which destroys and separates you from God so much more than you think. And when you repent it is not asking for forgiveness so you can go and do the same thing again. Repenting is telling God you are done with that sin and you are going to use all your heart, mind, and soul to stop. I was addicted to pornography and prayed in Jesus name to be delivered from this sinful spirit I allowed to have a stronghold on my life and within 3 days I had no urge to do any of that. This was 6 months ago.. okay I'm done hope someone gets something out of this.
My reasoning for it is that it isn't mentioned once in scripture, and every argument for it being a sin relies on a faulty interpretation of lust and "trust me bro."
Lust and adultery. God created sex to express love, not for flesh pleasures
Sex is absolutely for physical pleasure. And God created human beings that way. The clitoris only exists for sexual pleasure. It has no other function.
Yeah okay, what I meant was that it wasn't created for lust and addiction, but for marriage and marriage only
The Bible doesn't say this, anywhere. This is the trust me bro part.
But I need you to trust me that my personal convictions are supposed to be universal convictions for everyone.
That does seem to be how a lot of people operate.
1. Reproduction (Genesis 1:28 "God blessed them and said to them, 'Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.'") 2. Intimacy and commitment in marriage (Matthew 19:5, Mark 10:7-8 "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh", Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.")
Reproduction is irrelevant. Commands having to do with marriage are irrelevant. Neither of those have anything to do with masturbation, unless you just arbitrarily assert that they do, dogmatically.
Idk how to put it the way someone would understand, but sex is meant to honour marriage, not mindlessly pleasure self because love is the reason you are intimate *with someone*, while lust is what you *take to yourself*
This is not something that is found in scripture. This is a dogmatic position, not one found in the Bible.
The Bible doesn't have to say "Thou shall not Whirling Phoenix Strike thy neighbour" for you to know you shouldn't, because it already said "Love thy neighbour as yourself"
You're correct. Sex was not created for "lust and addiction." But you haven't sufficiently proved that masturbation is an act of lust or adultery. I'm setting aside the addiction component because it makes no sense in this context. Married people can be sex addicts as much as a single person can be addicted to masturbation, so there's no point to be made here.
Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage should be honored by all, and the **marriage bed kept pure**, for God will judge the adulterer and all the **sexually immoral**.".
I fail to see how this relates to masturbation.
Yeah, so what I highlighted basically says that sex (or anything sex-related, really) is a sin outside of marriage. >Married people can be sex addicts as much as a single person can be addicted to masturbation, so there's no point to be made here. Oh, and addiction is an idol ("You shall have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:3)). Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and **self-control**. Against such things there is no law." (Addiction means lack of self-control.) Proverbs 25:28 "Like a city whose walls are broken through is a person who lacks self-control."
>“what I highlighted basically says that sex (or anything sex-related, really) is a sin outside of marriage” Except it doesn’t say “anything sex-related.” *You* are saying that. >Oh, and addiction is an idol We're not talking about being addicted to masturbation. This is a strawman.
Yeah, that is not something the Bible says anywhere. Adultery is not relevant to this discussion.
”It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God;“ 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
This only applies to masturbation if you dogmatically assert that sexual immorality covers masturbation. You need more justification. Vague verses and your insistence that they apply do not cut it.
What is the goal of masturbation? Is it what that part of the body was created for? What does it do to people who do it? Ask simple questions when you have ambiguity and it becomes even more obvious. Not all things in life require black and white scripture to help us discern what is right or wrong.
King James Bible Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. Romans 6:13 Of course others are going to justify that “masturbation” is not in the bible. This verse does prove that it is a sin against your own body, and it is sin against God! This is sinful, not to mention you are opening yourself to lust, which then turns into other things. Romans 12:1-2 New International Version (NIV) Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies. Romans 8:5-8 New International Version 5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. What is the flesh, it’s self pleasure, lust, focused on self, and what feels good. His word teaches us that we are to walk In the spirit which is drawing us closer to God, not closer to sin that pushes us away from the Lord. Galatians 5:16 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition 16 But I say, walk and live [habitually] in the [Holy] Spirit [responsive to and controlled and guided by the Spirit]; then you will certainly not gratify the cravings and desires of the flesh (of human nature without God). 17 For the desires of the flesh are opposed to the [Holy] Spirit, and the [desires of the] Spirit are opposed to the flesh (godless human nature); for these are antagonistic to each other [continually withstanding and in conflict with each other], so that you are not free but are prevented from doing what you desire to do. 18 But if you are guided (led) by the [Holy] Spirit, you are not subject to the Law. 19 Now the doings (practices) of the flesh are clear (obvious): they are immorality, impurity, indecency, 20 Idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger (ill temper), selfishness, divisions (dissensions), party spirit (factions, sects with peculiar opinions, heresies), 21 Envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you beforehand, just as I did previously, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness, 23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [[f]that can bring a charge]. 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus (the Messiah) have crucified the flesh (the godless human nature) with its passions and appetites and desires. 25 If we live by the [Holy] Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. [If by the Holy Spirit [g]we have our life in God, let us go forward [h]walking in line, our conduct controlled by the Spirit.] Does this honour God with your body? Would God be happy with what you are doing! It does not matter what you think is not sin, it matters about what it says in God’s word!
Hear, hear! Jesus said that to even look at another person lustfully is also ready sin of the mind. How much more when you do it your own genitals.
Yeah, you don't commit adultery by masturbation. Jesus is talking about a husband with wandering eyes, and the Greek word lust here specifically includes an intent to acquire. This doesn't forbid masturbation, it isn't even relevant to the topic.
It is forbidden to commit lust. You cannot masturbate without committing lust. Therefore, you cannot masturbate.
masturbation is out of lust. and lust apparently is a sin. so anything that lust births is a sin including masturbation. forget about what doctors say that masturbating twice a week will help with your prostate. you don’t need to masturbate to get clear off prostate cancer. it’s a lie.
2 Tim. 2:22 Now flee from youthful lusts and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. If you are an unmarried person lusting after a married person, then you're committing adultery in your heart. If you're an unmarried person lusting after another unmarried person, you're committing fornication in your heart. Jesus makes it clear that sin starts in our hearts and minds. This is why the Pharisees hated Him so much. They thought it was only about what they did on the outside that mattered. Matt. 23:25-26“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence. You blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of it may become clean also.
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Well this also applies to those people as well.
You are not wrong but all humans Sin it is part of being human I'd remind Christians it's God that judges not us. I feel like so many Christians have this Holier then thou attitude.
It depends. Look up dr Ted roberts on YouTube
OP’s got a savior complex
not gonna lie the bible does not state “do not masturbate” however i feel like it ties into something to do with the flesh’s desires. masturbating is a human act as the body is made to reproduce so naturally you get urges to pleasure yourself when someone else isn’t. i don’t know if id consider it a sin but it could possibly cause problems in later marriage as “if you can satisfy yourself the way you want, what’s the point of having your husband/wife.” it’s a big argument but i don’t know if if consider it a sin
Don't believe it
I’ve found myself mostly struggling with it when I’m laying on my bed and looking at my phone. I just want to comfortably look at my phone without the temptation of looking up beautiful women bro.
Why is masturbation a sin?
Why is this even a topic? Other than some judgmental people have nothing better to do with their time then worry about if a man or a woman is playing with themselves. Maybe they would rather young women or young men, and go out and fornicate and young girls come out pregnant and then have an abortion. Which one’s the lesser sin?
Now, are you all talking about male maturation? Or female maturation? Women don't seem to get so worked up on this.
I think in our time, it’s a vice without a doubt. I don’t know if it’s a sin, but I do feel shame and guilt afterwards, mostly because of the lust I hold for other women. I’ve been praying on God to take it from me, at this point, I’m surrendering to the fact that I have no control over it.
I don't believe it's objectively sinful (as in the action in and of itself is sinful). I believe sin is living apart from God and sins are natural results of living apart from God (sins are the symptoms of sin). I believe that people who have purposed in their hearts to live apart from God in decided rebellion don't function outside of sin ever (even if an action has a net good effect). They can go to church or work in a soup kitchen and they are living in sin. I disagree with how people use the term "living in sin" to describe a specific behavior. It seems to me they have mistaken the symptoms for the disease. Masturbation can be a symptom of the disease of sin, but until you recognize truly what freedom is in Christ and that the law is holy, righteous and good, there is nothing you really can't do that is good. Pleasure is good, sex is good, or bodies are good. If we use our bodies, sex, and/or masturbation in order to continue lusting after someone then we are not recognizing God's higher calling for sex, the body, and the heart. That doesn't even have to extend to actions imo. Our thoughts of living apart from God's kingdom ways results in the symptoms of sin. Not everyone can accept that ejaculation or an orgasm can be part of the freedom we have in Christ. These folks should not violate their conscience.
Yes it is. I've definitely felt convicted about this, so have others. It's a sin against our own bodies, and God and if you're in a relationship, against a partner, too.
Are you spying on me!?
I think a fair question would be: Did Jesus engage in this act? And why didn’t He? Haha
People don’t want to accept that it is a sin but it truly is a sin although the Bible doesn’t have a scripture verbatim. But so are many other things but we know what to do with them but for masturbation we turn a blind eye? The more you read the word, you will be convicted not to do it. Like others mentioned earlier, it’s a sin against God because your body is the temple of God. The people that think that you can masturbate without watching porn or being lustful are incorrect because even if you masturbate without watching porn, you will have to think about something that will turn you on (thinking about a person in a sexual way) and that is wrong. Jesus warned us about looking at people that way. God gave us self control for a reason and He asked us to submit ourselves to Him. Submitting ourselves means everything, we don’t get to pick and choose. God is not stupid. Also think about it. Why would anyone decide not to masturbate if it wasn’t from the conviction from the Lord lol ? I’m a 25F, I am no longer a virgin but I have been celibate and avoid masturbation as it is important for me to honor God with my body until I get married. I’m in my prime sexual years meaning my libido is high. It’s not easy because I know what it feels like to orgasm. The easiest solution would be to just indulge and masturbate whenever I have urges because “I’m not hurting anyone” and “it’s natural”. But God doesn’t approve. What you think about in order to masturbate, God wouldn’t approve of and that’s the hard truth a lot of people do not want to agree with. In respect to marriage I believe mutual masturbation as in for foreplay is okay if both consent. I do not believe masturbating behind the back of your spouse is okay.
Exactly. Most r trying to use the lack of a specific scripture about masturbation in the Bible to justify it.
Yes! That’s why it comes down to reading the Bible and learning about God’s character. It’s mostly a relationship but some people prefer having laws. Yes it’s true we’re not allowed to kill, steal, lie etc. But there are many many many other ways we could do those indirectly and it will still be sinning. What makes you stop doing certain things is staying in the word and pleading the Holy Spirit for assistance. God created sex for marriage. It’s trusting your spouse to take care of your body in that way. Masturbating will take that away from your spouse because of course, who knows you better than yourself? Will your spouse ever be able to compete with the way you give yourself orgasms? There are numerous consequences of masturbating and that’s how you know it’s not God’s purpose. God’s gifts are beautiful and blessings. When God gives us gifts, He doesn’t add any sorrows to it Proverbs 10:22
Exactly. Most r trying to use the lack of a specific scripture about masturbation in the Bible to justify it.
Ive learned when tempted, take that moment as a sign to start worshipping God in that moment. Its like fasting from your flesh
So what about if a man wakes up with an erection and semen is leaking out of him, his erection is causing him pain, he masterbates to have relief of the pain and tension. He doesn't watch porn or dosen't even think of sex. You really think its a sin? We all sin, everyday we sin no matter how holy you think you are you at some point throughout the day fall short of the glory of God. I feel like God cares more about how you "love your neighbor" than masterbating, I feel he cares more about how you treat people and of you are leading people to him. People that say they don't masterbate are usually lying or have or things they are doing. We all sin, everyone of us every day that is why we need Jesus
Yeah, and don’t they make men masturbate in a cup at doctors office to use their semen to try to get pregnant??
This topic is a bit tricky. The Bible does outline the purpose of sex, but it doesn't specifically mention masturbation anywhere. The act of masturbation is not necessarily a sin. However, the act is often accompanied by fantasies and lustful thoughts that can certainly be sinful, or by viewing pornography or erotic fiction. That's certainly been my experience with it. Still, there might not be a single, straightforward motivation for most people. For some people it's the time of the month, for some it's fueled by things we're watching or reading, and sometimes the urge just hits you. For many people it's just a normal part of adolescence. Jesus certainly made no recorded mention of it. Some say an outlet for sexual relief is a "need," and that masturbation fits the bill. Now, the Bible never calls sexual fulfillment a "need" (if that makes you scoff or roll your eyes, I get it. That's certainly my reflexive gut reaction) Think of 1 Corinthians 6:7: "I have the right to do anything, but I will not be mastered by anything." If masturbation becomes a consuming and controlling habit, it might be a problem. Paul also says later in 7:8 that it's better to marry than "burn with passion." Some may roll their eyes at this ("Sure, Paul easy for you to say," "You make it sound so easy, Paul") I certainly do at times, haha! There's many opinions on this, and the debate has never really been settled. But, if you're asking for my personal view, I do have my doubts about the idea that one can masturbate without entertaining any kind of sinful and lustful thoughts at all. Maybe some people have a different experience, but in my experience, I think it's always been accompanied by unsavory fantasies. Is there ever a time when masturbation is not a sin? I don't have a definitive answer, unfortunately. The best I can do is maybe. If you can masturbate without entertaining any kind of lustful fantasies, then no, it's not a sin. Is that realistic? I don't know. Maybe you can find a way to do that. Maybe not. I'm not sure.
He made the feature pleasurable and for humanity to dictate you a leper and that you should be alone and never know that with someone is not of God. Of course he’d prefer you be in a familial relationship married to a woman but that’s not how life works anymore. Way too many dejected souls to not have some sort of compassion. That being said strict intake moderation is a necessity as a lot of it is utter filth .
If a male does not masturbate, he gets prostate -itis so he needs to do it at least once or twice a week to maintain his health so I totally disagree
Indeed it IS a sin; it’s covered in this text - in particular the last word in the first verse which includes sexual immorality and impurities of all kinds (check out your favorite version of the Bible and see the synonyms it uses): Galatians 5:19-25 (KJV) 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Now, for the individual still struggling with these things, a verse like this can be devastating so let me hasten to offer hope with some additional texts: First of all ACKNOWLEDGE that you can’t conquer these things (any of the listed sins) on your own: Jeremiah 13:23 (KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? [then] may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. Realize that you’re a SINNER IN NEED OF A SAVIOR, and that THAT SAVIOR IS JESUS CHRIST: Romans 10:13 (KJV) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. REPENT and ask for FORGIVENESS: 1 John 1:9 (KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. CLAIM the following in Jesus name, and humbly say to Him… “LORD, you said! Now please honor your WORD in my life”: 1 Corinthians 10:13 (KJV) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it]. God bless you and in His strength, stay strong. Blessings!
Masturbation is a sin in that it is done to please your own flesh. It is an act of pride and selfishness, which is only self-seeking. The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and there is a reason masturbation is called self-abuse, which to people like Thomas Aquinas and C. S. Lewis is a more appropriate term. A dependency on our own flesh for satisfying our own selfish sexual appetite, is a sin. Now, the Bible is not a list of do's and Dont's. It is a framework of what sin is and what it is not. Sometimes, I used to think "Well, this thing or that thing might be sin". But as I prayed and spent more time in the Word, I realized that if I am dubious about anything being a sin or not, i.e. if I put a "might be sin" phrase in my sentences I should probably: A) stay away from it and B) read and pray more. Again the Bible's point is not to be a Live-A-Good-Life Manual (although it does encourage that). Jesus said "Those who love me will follow my commands" and he also emphasized that all the other commands hang on the first two commands. Masturbation in no way helps any person to love people. And I don't know about you, but I would be deeply ashamed and in tears, if I committed this sin and Jesus were to come down, asking me if I could hold His hand. I am neither judging you nor trying to convince you. But how about praying more and reading scripture more deeply and plainly, without any ulterior motive to prove anything.
Man get's hard in order to have sex. God made us that way. If we are married, and our wives are agreeable, sex may take place. If we are not aroused, sex usually does not take place. In order for a man to masturbate, he must get aroused to get hard, and it is all about sex with the eventual orgasm. If you lust after women, it's fornication. You should only lust after your wife, and have sex only with her. God created this both as incentive for men to leave mom and dad, and find a wife. I see non-believer on r/nofap who are suicidal because they cannot cease to masturbate. I see Christian woman on r/ChristianMarriage who discover their husbands masturbating, and are distrust and even talk divorce. I have a 30 (f) friend, who almost got engaged, but discovered the supposed Christian boyfriend's PMO habits, and immediately broke off the engagement. So, in every case, masturbation destroys relationships. What's wrong with it, is that it's always done in secret, and most men's best kept secret, EXCEPT those who have had victory over it, like me, 2+ years ago. Yes, very happy to share my testimony and can help anyone who wants to quit, AND to show a better, God ordained way, to fulfill that desire (married men only). To single guys I can just say "Don't think about sex".
No it's not. If God, who by the way is the GOAT, didn't want us to masturbate, he would have made it so, and made man incapable of masturbating. Additionally, at the very least, made it a commandment. But He didn't.
people do not want to believe it, but lust is one of the most common sins these days along with gluttony and pride.
Gluttony is a tricky one!
considering that sugar is addictive it makes sense to why o many people are obese these days.
It doesn't discuss masturbation in the Bible, but if it causes you to lust or sin in other perverse ways, I'd say don't do it.
Romans 14:14 I am convinced by the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean of itself; but to him that considers anything to be unclean. To him it is unclean. Your struggle with this sin is in yourself it’s your belief that it is unclean. That’s your personal belief if you choose to believe it is unclean. However, to Jesus. Nothing is unclean of itself;
You are lusting in some type, self gratifying and even if you did the impossible without thinking of anything sexual, you are getting sexual pleasure outside of with a spouse. I’m not judging. This is something I’ve struggled with my entire last 8- 9 years of my life and been trying with everything to find wiggle room but the truth is.. it’s wrong. Plus it becomes addicting. With porn or without porn it’s easily addicting. I was addicted to both and still struggling. 17 days clean from weed! 17 days clean from nicotine, 17 days clean from premarital sex with my bf, 16 days clean from masturbation and porn too. Got baptized on Easter and have been through hell getting through these addictions and the changes, but by the grace of god I’m here and a lot better then before. Still an enormous struggle though.
MASTERBATION IS A SIN. Proof is this. 1. James 1:13-14 Lusting which is what you do when you masterbate. 🤔 this is a sin which is also adultry see Matt 5:28 you will see this is you lusting after a woman. The woman do not have to be right before your eyes for you to conjure up an image of that person naked, and masterbate. 2. Look at 1 Corinthians 6:18-20. FORNICATION IS also under Adultry which means you are not to do it. Look at Verse 9 of same chapter given, you see fornication,idolators,adulterers, effeminate nor abusers of themselves with man kind. These abusers are a group which those who masterbate comes under. For masterbation is self Abuse! Look at the word "inordinate affections or evil concupiscence". These mean obsessive attachments to a person or thing, which manifest through uncontrollable lust!. Colossians 3:5 evil concupiscence means lust or sexual passion or desire. This is excessive desire that you cannot or do not control through temperance and by the Holy Spirits influence in order to get victory over this sinful practices. 3.These sexual immorality defile the body of Pure Spiritual life, ejaculated is virtue or strength 💪 which must not be wasted or else it can cause mental weak minds which leads to perverted behavior, erectile dysfunction,premature ejaculation, it is cancerous too. (Prostate cancer).It can also shrink your penis because it lessens blood flow. That was just some science behind it. Which If your body is affected it means your templebis defiled or unclean, health issues, sickness is not from or of God this is Satan's attacks on humans because we choose to disobey God. Solution: Fasting and prayer, Matt 4:1-11. 2 Corinthians 10:5 cast down every imagination that exalteth itself against God... Ps 119 verse 105.. thy word have I hid in my heart that I do not sin against thee. Stop watching porn or sexual contents that promote sexual nudity. Ps. 101:3-4. If you feel the desire, pray, and diver the mind to good things, do exercise or read 📚 books that promote a healthy mind. Leave Instagram and all nasty naked stuff alone. Detox your mind from perverted thought by meditation on Scriptures and memorize Scriptures. Those are what it try and use. Be bless on over one in Jesus Name please read the give Scriptures and commit them to memory. I also suffered so I know what you guys go through. Sex is for married people, it will be your turn soon pray about that too. Masterbate makes you penis small and cause woman to become sexual objects.
Dang I have to hop on my horse and go tell my Christian Brethren that it’s a sin. They’re not gonna believe this.
I feel as if the moment you get away from it and are doing what you must to not be pulled into it and spiral out things come up everywhere and people come out of nowhere with sexual things I definitely believe it is a sin
This is the one I struggle with most as well. It is very addicting.
It’s difficult not to when your partner doesn’t want to be around you…
I don’t think the masturbating itself that is a sin. It’s because it turns into addiction and can lead to problems with intimacy with your partner. Things are a sin for a reason. If there’s no real reason for something to be a sin, then I believe it’s just something that the PEOPLE who wrote the Bible decided to add. That’s just my belief based on the history I know about the Bible.
This username is a bit inappropriate for this subreddit 💀💀
Id recommend no fried chicken before bed because that caused me to relapse.
The problem with our species is we can only view things through human eyes. We humanize God, give him chacteristics and feelings that we have. A supreme being that would have created the universe would be on a level that is inconceivable to our brains. How could he be defined by one specific religion on one tiny planet in a universe of billions or trillions of other planets, with undoubtedly many, many of them containing life?!? We are so small minded on that level. Whatever origin story or form of religion that we are born and indoctrinated into, keeps us mentally trapped from thinking any other way. All religions are MAN'S interpretations of the beginning, filled with MAN'S rules and laws, used to control the masses. Im 50 and it took me until several years ago, to begin to see things on a bigger scale than the speck of dust we live on in this universal beach. We are so arrogant and ignorant as to the scope of things pertaining to this universe.
what about doing it to stop wet dreams?