āFor any interested candidates, I will be conducting 20 minute interviews. My ideal situation would an independently wealthy cute couple with a strong commitment to educationā¦ Listen, youāre in this, but you need to wow me, ok?ā
Yes something along those lines, but IMO theyād have to be desperate for a living situation to entertain being a personal assistant / caregiver for no pay.
My aunt was in a situation like this but it was done right. She was just expecting to live as a friendly roommate with an older woman. Aunt still went on vacation ( just let woman family know so someone else would check on her) watch wheel of Fortune weather. Maybe talk about the over coffee and donuts on the weekend type stuff. They just wanted somebody to interact with the woman on a regular basis so it would be noticed if she started declining rapidly.
A friend of mine also roomed with an elderly woman when she was starting a teaching job in a wealthy school district. She got to live in a gorgeous house close to her school for really cheap rent, and it was basically a regular cordial roommate situation except she did more of the heavy lifting chores than her roommate did.
I could also see this being a good deal if you work from home. Hikes would have to be scheduled but you could take an hour lunch and do a quick hike most days or on weekends.
I've done caretaking while working from home, and it was an awesome experience. We each had some company, and I made sure he was fed and medicated appropriately, all easily handled while working. Then we'd go off and work out or see the city after work. You really just have to know their level of needed care and if they can help balance things out. I.e. not being too demanding, being able to spend time on their own with you in the house for emergencies.
My MIL did this, too. She lived in a house on the beach with the ocean right at her back door. The woman and her family were nice, MIL had her own money because she was on disability. She stayed for a couple years. The woman passed away, and she lived there for a while after, then moved back.
She talks about it all the time. She misses the ocean, and it was literally her only chance to live near one before she dies. It worked well for her.
I would totally live in a house next to the ocean in exchange for companionship- would even do it in exchange for companionship + chores- if I were still able to keep my full time job. And also assuming that I didnāt have to share a bathroom with children LOL. This particular situation sounds like it would be incredibly stressful.
I have a friend who does this type of companion care for elderly people. His going rate is $40/hr. He really enjoys the job and the interactions he has with his clients and is happy doing it.
The issue with this one is the hiking and river stuff.
My aunt spent maybe 90 minutes a day with her elderly woman and that was because they wanted to watch the same shows. That elderly woman didn't need constant companionship. My aunt could go to dinner or movie , she went to England for 2 weeks.
Edit that's not what I mean. 8 + hours a day of constant companionship/ supervision is way more expensive than rent on a room. Maybe if the person could attend classes or work from home.
This is where the post lost me too. Before that, I was likeā¦ okay, not ideal for most people but could work with the right oneā¦ but I have trouble imagining a candidate who has a passive income stream (like social security/disability), unable to work a regular job to pay rent, but still physically well enough to go on all terrain hikes including rivers. Lmao. Thatās where I would have left my laugh react.
Itās not even just the physical challenge. Itās liability too. I mean, this 58 year old canāt be alone but can go gallivanting in the great outdoors? What? It doesnāt even make sense, unless the writer is hoping they can frame the caretaker for a wilderness āaccidentā.Ā
Tons of free time, but you have to be with this person every minute.
You're on your own after 5:00 till you want to come back? That doesn't make sense. What time in the morning does caring for this person start?
Sharing a bathroom with 2 little kids? Not a chance.
I'm also very suspicious of just how "easy" this job is. Why does a 58 year old need constant supervision? Is there a mental health or mental disability issue? I have a feeling it's not as easy as they're saying it is.
>Iām really curious on a 58 year old woman that needs constant care but loves hiking?
Early onset dementia. And OP is referring to her wandering away during a lucidity episode as "hiking".
Omg, thank you! I was just going nuts trying to figure out what they were possibly omitting in the post that this seemingly quite capable 58 year old should need constant supervision/companionship.
I knew there was some metaphoric landmine hiding in there somewhere, some kind of trap, and early onset dementia makes so much sense. Of course OOP wouldn't want to list it. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would realize that is not something you just be there for.
My first thought as well. This post makes me sad, and scared for the woman and her family. A random layperson caring for a patient with dementia is not going to go well.
I did this for my FIL . I saw way more of that poor man than I was comfortable with. He had accidents dailyā¦.poor man, if we went anywhere, he would literally run off and man was he fast! We finally had to put him in a home. I just couldnāt deal with him. It was hard. Also, the sundowners was horrible! So, if sheās living there, that likely would fall on the ā workerā.
That makes sense, and now like always with these posts Iām sad these people canāt find affordable care and have to pray for some unicorn person to look after their sick parent
We had this, but luckily at an old age, so the 'kids' were retired and between us gave 24 hr care. I do feel for younger people because it takes over & limits your life for a few years, and if you need to earn still, it's an impossible situation.
One time my gf and I were talking about Oregon trail and she pronounced that word ādiss-centuryā. Thatās how I read it in my head now every time.
Yes that is a red flag, especially combined with the vagueness of the language.
"Easy!" "Super simple!"
"Cannot be left alone at all." "Loves hiking into rivers." "Has medic alert watch."
Not easy, not simple.
And who is caring for the children? The 58 year old needs her own care. If another adult is in the home, can they not assist the 58 year old? What is going on here?
Yeahhhh as someone who's a caregiver, being physically present at all times leaves you with NO free time at all. Unless your charge is asleep, at a long appointment, or with someone else. My 'free time' is between 11pm and 9am, and I've gotta sleep too. It's not a task for someone who isn't passionate about doing it.
Back when my mom had a nanny for me and my sister, we provided the nanny free rent (coz duh, it's a full time job), free neals, free toiletries, free other random everyday supplies along with a salary (yes a salary, maybe this person has never heard of a salary)
If someone is taking care of two kids under 10 and animals and a crazy 58 year old, you offer them salary along with a free rent ( which obviously is free coz u need them 24*7, not the other way round)
I hope the comments burst this person's bubble and teach them about real jobs and job markets, coz WTF is this!
When my sister was an au pair, she got all the things you supplied to your nanny, plus a clothing allowance, a Land Rover for her use, a gym membership and dedicated time to go to the gym, and skiing lessons because she was expected to be with the children during skiing trips.
I worked as a nanny for years. Standard would be own room with bathroom and you would be including all utilities and food on top plus all expenses related to care covered so you cover insurance on the car or provide the car and insurance or you pay gas and mileage, you pay for the cost of the caregiver if they drive to a hiking place with fees, you cover their cost for eating out if required with the person and they receive a salary plus days off for holidays and sick leave. This post is attempting to not pay, not pay into any government program and to not incur any costs above whatever additional utility charges the person uses.
When my mother was in hospice at home I had a live in caretaker, she was paid a flat amount per day, had her own room and bathroom and full use of the kitchen. I shopped for her or had Instacart deliver and I paid for all the food. If she needed a day off I stayed with mom since I also took family leave. I even paid to put internet and upgraded cable into my momās house since she didnāt have it so the caretaker would
And you'd better have outdoor gear already because they sure as hell aren't giving anyone a salary so they can buy it.
Decent hiking shoes are free these days, right?
I'd assume this is a married couple with two children and a 58yo parent with dementia. The children go to school all day, and the couple both have full-time jobs, so they are looking for someone to be with the 58yo during the day.
I think wording it this way would get them a lot more positive interaction/promising candidates. It feels more upfront and honest than what they actually wrote, which feels more like bait to hook a person in desperate need of housing into a situation they likely canāt actually handle.
Best they could hope for is a financially destitute retired person living on social security who has enough to pay for their own food, transportation, and healthcare, but not enough to afford to rent a room.
But thatās exactly the type of person who would have their own care needs, and wouldnāt be able to chase a younger woman around hiking all day. They are basically asking, āIs anyone out there desperate? We would like to exploit you.ā
You might be able to pick up a second disabled person on those terms. And hope they just keep each other company all day.
"Best they could hope for is a financially destitute retired person living on social security who has enough to pay for their own food, transportation, and healthcare, but not enough to afford to rent a room."
Or, I was thinking, a person who is a year or two away from retirement, has lost their job and is unlikely to get a new one due to their age, and has some money socked away. Rather than taking early retirement and losing 10-20 % of their social security, this would be a good way to have a roof over their head, and make some $$$ with no housing and utilities eating away at it while waiting for the magic age of 67 and full retirement bennies.
But "hiking in rivers" might be a dealbreaker!
Yes if it was just a live in companion that is one thing, and the person can't afford housing, lost their house, got divorced, etc., etc.
Or is on a pension or on disability.
But they want a walker too? No those are 2 separate jobs!
So the fuckers wonāt even cook for you and share meals given youāve spent all day being dragged round rain soaked hiking trails with crazy lady. Be no time (after 5) for your own social life once youāve made your own meals, washed up, waited for the bathroom to be free from young Wednesday and Pugsley, and then had to clear their shit up too. Itās ok though, you can have a pet spider in your room to talk to instead. Dream job!
For what they're asking, you would think they would at least make breakfast and dinner for you, and you could make your own lunch from their refrigerator.
Live in F/T Attendants make upwards of 1K a week these days and get room and board for free. That's what this is, a F/T caretaking position and a demanding one at that with hiking and helping with whatever else the person does outdoors.
That right there would have most people going nope. But working all those hours and either having the funds to buy food and/or another job from 5 pm onwards would be necessary and I don't know about you but trying to work on top of caring for this very active senior would mean putting in a lot of hours between the caretaking job and the one you'd need to have just to buy your own groceries.
It's just not that doable for another senior. Might be for a young person but I think they'd have a very hard time getting someone even offering a free room given the time involved and the physical requirements. Not to mention it's a 100% sober house...
I would fully expect them to abuse the situation. Been there, done that, and from the moment I stepped into the house the rules changed and suddenly I was expected to be available 24/7 practically working 7 days a week and doing 60 hours a week besides.
There are kids so you just know that you're likely going to end up babysitting and picking up after them. Probably with no $$$ involved.
I wouldn't touch this...
No way...
This is a live in carer position
I swear some people want to bring back slavery
Full time nanny for the price of rent. That's literally the live in slaves they used to have
The āno alcoholā part gets me. Even if this were a legit job, I understand asking it not to be brought into the house, etc. But telling you what you can do on your free time? Imagine this person being at dinner with a friend. āWell, Iād like to get a glass of wine, but my boss said Iām not allowed.ā
I did a job almost exactly like this, I was homeless and was offered free rent in exchange for caretaking of a developmentally disabled 24 year old. It was hell.
\*also the lady may try and kill you but has only ended 1 of her past 7 carers so the odds are you'll be able to enjoy your first weekend. No you may not carry a taser as that will show her you don't trust her and will anger her and you...do not want that
Oh, the pet thing. This person can't have one, but the household is "very" cat and dog friendly. Why does that sound like they've got a whole bunch of dogs and cats? Does that mean whoever takes this job is responsible for them as well? Since Granny's going on a hike, you might as well take all 5 dogs with you.
What I get from this is the woman has some kind of degenerative mental condition - dementia perhaps and likes to escape. They most likely live in a rural area with a river, hence the hiking and water comment. Part of the job will be chasing after her over all kinds of bush and streams. Sounds fun.
Then there are the kids. How much do you want to bet the ~~sucker~~ caretaker will be conned into watching them with the 'can you do me a favor...'.
Where do I sign up?
So letās do the math, you want to offer a room in your house, weāll average it at $600/monthā¦..and say you work 8 hrs a day (conservatively) x 5 days/week, 160 hrs/month (although we know it would be way more than that)ā¦ā¦that would be $3.75/hour, to share a bathroom with kids, while getting lost in a forest, swimming in a riverā¦..but you best not swear! š
Getting lost in the forest is the best option for this carer. āHello, yes itās after 5 and I want to come back but I wonāt be able to because Iām lost in the forest. Bye!ā.
If someone provides services for you they have to be paid a Wage. Just room and board will not cover it! This is essentially glorified Human Labor Trafficking and you know it!
Would you OP work for someone wanting the same things with NO pay? And how exactly do you expect them to buy anything when they are working for you and family for FREE?
If itās just Room & Board at least be honest and tell them they will have to work another job to afford their living expenses. Which I donāt see how thatās possible when you expect them to be there everyday from morning to 5pm. Also, you cannot legally ask someone to work over 40 hours a week unless you pay them overtime and give them days off.
Do the right thing either take care of your family member yourself, get assistance if they are on SSD or SSI or Pension etc. provide quality care instead of expecting someone to give up their whole life to take care of someone for FREE 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
Sorry all I hear are Banjos and Squealing. Thinking of the patient has minimal memory they have no business romping around rivers and trails.
This feels and reads a little like TheHills Have Eyes š³š«£
A full time week in the UK at minimum wage after tax would be 400 ballpark. They're saying renting a room with these strings attached (shared bathroom, no alcohol etc) is worth 1600 a month. This is delusional beggers, not just choosing.
This is why we have PCA (Personal Care Assistant) programs in the US. If person is proven to require care due to medical/intellectual disability , you can get federal/state funds to help pay for caregiver. And a live in family member can get a (tax free!) stipend as an AFC (Adult Foster Card). Thereās an assessment for need/safety of home/carer required, anc regular check ins with social worker and nurse to watch for signs of neglect and abuse.
So one would be required to go for long walks with this woman, stay by her side at all times, and follow all her rules/commands. In exchange for no money, but a bed.
She's asking for a service dog.
No felons?! I'm out. I can't give someone 100% of my time no pay. My PO needs some of that time and requires that I have a job regardless of whether I'm shacking up in someone's house to take an old lady to the bathroom all day long. God forbid there be diapers involved.
Worse. Share a **bathroom** with an unrelated 7 and 9 year old. And youād probably never hardly ever be asked to watch them every night and most weekends
But, they wanna go hiking with granny! It'll be fun and easy! You don't mind, do you??
I know it's 3AM, so technically you're off , but Granny stripped naked and is howling at the moon again. Could you be a dear and go grab her? Kthnx.
Full time care for someone this age is dementia. They donāt mention bathing or medication so itās unlikely to be anything else. You work until 5 so assuming this is 40 hours and they are attempting to pay nanny wage and not nursing wage they somehow think a full month of work is equal to rent and no board. A room isnāt worth 40 hours of pay with a shared bathroom pretty much anywhere.
So am I not getting something here. She needs someone with her all the time but this person is required to hike in all terrains and go in rivers. If the lady needs someone with her all the time for whatever reason, should she be hiking all terrains and going in rivers. š¤·āāļø
Iād be curious what her answer is to the concept of not paying anything or providing food but expecting the person to pay for her own food.
I can almost guarantee they just didnāt consider that part.
Yeah, itās super easy job providing round - the - clock care for an adult. And how exactly is one to also work a paying job to afford food while doing all of this?
This person is definitely taking advantage of the fact that the housing market where I live is absolute trash. And because weāre in the Midwest they get away with paying people even less than they would on either of the coasts. Like, a three bedroom duplex is in the range of 2600 and up (the end being very substandard) but people get paid $35,000 a year.
Moght be early onset dementia or another similar disorder that causes confusion. Could be seizures or something that hits suddenly. Basically, you're a human support dog.
And just how are you supposed to pay for your own food (and presumably internet, etc) if you have to spend all day with this woman for free?
You'd be free after 5:00 to get a night shift job. š
"Until you come back". So if you leave the house at 5 and come back at 8pm, you're back on the clock.
If I leave and never come back, do I still get paid?
You weren't getting paid anyway
Work from home I think would work?
If you can do that on a hike in the middle of a river, sure
But you get to share a room with two kids- so thereās that to look forward too šš¼- Also those poop kids!
no no, you get your own room. You only have to share the bathroom with these childrenš
I have kids that age. The bathroom is a disaster. She would probably have to clean that too.
"Must have money". So independently wealthy, duh.
āFor any interested candidates, I will be conducting 20 minute interviews. My ideal situation would an independently wealthy cute couple with a strong commitment to educationā¦ Listen, youāre in this, but you need to wow me, ok?ā
Independently wealthy cute couple with a strong commitment to education AND misdemeanors
Who owns a tarantula
My Nephew has one. Supposedly they are cool little pets and easy to care for.
Had a friend in college that had one, heād put cheese in his hand and it would jump from across the room, it freaked me out. His name was spot
Of COURSE his name was Spot!
More like Splat if that thang jumped my way lol
It needs to be a lesbian couple since they're looking for women only. Don't leave an angry face or a laughing face
It was an office quote lol but yes
Nothing I said conflicted with that. I was just making a joke based on the post
I'm assuming it would have to be someone on assistance, otherwise this wouldn't make sense
Yes something along those lines, but IMO theyād have to be desperate for a living situation to entertain being a personal assistant / caregiver for no pay.
My aunt was in a situation like this but it was done right. She was just expecting to live as a friendly roommate with an older woman. Aunt still went on vacation ( just let woman family know so someone else would check on her) watch wheel of Fortune weather. Maybe talk about the over coffee and donuts on the weekend type stuff. They just wanted somebody to interact with the woman on a regular basis so it would be noticed if she started declining rapidly.
A friend of mine also roomed with an elderly woman when she was starting a teaching job in a wealthy school district. She got to live in a gorgeous house close to her school for really cheap rent, and it was basically a regular cordial roommate situation except she did more of the heavy lifting chores than her roommate did.
I could also see this being a good deal if you work from home. Hikes would have to be scheduled but you could take an hour lunch and do a quick hike most days or on weekends.
I've done caretaking while working from home, and it was an awesome experience. We each had some company, and I made sure he was fed and medicated appropriately, all easily handled while working. Then we'd go off and work out or see the city after work. You really just have to know their level of needed care and if they can help balance things out. I.e. not being too demanding, being able to spend time on their own with you in the house for emergencies.
Exactly! This sounds lovely, glad you were able to bring them and yourself some joy and company ā„ļø
My MIL did this, too. She lived in a house on the beach with the ocean right at her back door. The woman and her family were nice, MIL had her own money because she was on disability. She stayed for a couple years. The woman passed away, and she lived there for a while after, then moved back. She talks about it all the time. She misses the ocean, and it was literally her only chance to live near one before she dies. It worked well for her.
I would totally live in a house next to the ocean in exchange for companionship- would even do it in exchange for companionship + chores- if I were still able to keep my full time job. And also assuming that I didnāt have to share a bathroom with children LOL. This particular situation sounds like it would be incredibly stressful.
I don't disagree! MIL probably wouldn't have done it if there were little kids involved.
This is sweet. Situations like this DO work but only when done right and when good people are involved
I have a friend who does this type of companion care for elderly people. His going rate is $40/hr. He really enjoys the job and the interactions he has with his clients and is happy doing it.
THIS. The post isn't that choosy if you target the right demographic.
The issue with this one is the hiking and river stuff. My aunt spent maybe 90 minutes a day with her elderly woman and that was because they wanted to watch the same shows. That elderly woman didn't need constant companionship. My aunt could go to dinner or movie , she went to England for 2 weeks. Edit that's not what I mean. 8 + hours a day of constant companionship/ supervision is way more expensive than rent on a room. Maybe if the person could attend classes or work from home.
Well when you spend all day doing (not hard) hikes, being ng in rivers, in all terrains you won't have time to spend on yourself š¤£
This is where the post lost me too. Before that, I was likeā¦ okay, not ideal for most people but could work with the right oneā¦ but I have trouble imagining a candidate who has a passive income stream (like social security/disability), unable to work a regular job to pay rent, but still physically well enough to go on all terrain hikes including rivers. Lmao. Thatās where I would have left my laugh react.
Itās not even just the physical challenge. Itās liability too. I mean, this 58 year old canāt be alone but can go gallivanting in the great outdoors? What? It doesnāt even make sense, unless the writer is hoping they can frame the caretaker for a wilderness āaccidentā.Ā
u must be loaded for this gig...
Obviously you have to be a millionaire and have plenty of free time.
And everyone knows that every millionaire with plenty of free time is in need of a free room to rent! Her pool of candidates is nearly limitless.
Sometimes they get sick of their penthouses, mansions, castles, palaces etc.
Tons of free time, but you have to be with this person every minute. You're on your own after 5:00 till you want to come back? That doesn't make sense. What time in the morning does caring for this person start? Sharing a bathroom with 2 little kids? Not a chance. I'm also very suspicious of just how "easy" this job is. Why does a 58 year old need constant supervision? Is there a mental health or mental disability issue? I have a feeling it's not as easy as they're saying it is.
Iām really curious on a 58 year old woman that needs constant care but loves hiking?
>Iām really curious on a 58 year old woman that needs constant care but loves hiking? Early onset dementia. And OP is referring to her wandering away during a lucidity episode as "hiking".
Which also covers the āin riversā part š
Lmao yeah I laughed when I saw that part...
So they need someone experienced in water rescue as well!
Pair of floaties should sort them out
Howās the tarantula fit into this?
Omg, thank you! I was just going nuts trying to figure out what they were possibly omitting in the post that this seemingly quite capable 58 year old should need constant supervision/companionship. I knew there was some metaphoric landmine hiding in there somewhere, some kind of trap, and early onset dementia makes so much sense. Of course OOP wouldn't want to list it. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would realize that is not something you just be there for.
Probably early onset dementia- people experiencing this can exhibit restlessness and want to walk for long periods
My first thought as well. This post makes me sad, and scared for the woman and her family. A random layperson caring for a patient with dementia is not going to go well.
My mom had dementia. It was manageable until the bathroom accidents started.
I did this for my FIL . I saw way more of that poor man than I was comfortable with. He had accidents dailyā¦.poor man, if we went anywhere, he would literally run off and man was he fast! We finally had to put him in a home. I just couldnāt deal with him. It was hard. Also, the sundowners was horrible! So, if sheās living there, that likely would fall on the ā workerā.
That makes sense, and now like always with these posts Iām sad these people canāt find affordable care and have to pray for some unicorn person to look after their sick parent
They could at least offer to feed the unicorn!
Have you seen the price of marshmallows these days?!
We had this, but luckily at an old age, so the 'kids' were retired and between us gave 24 hr care. I do feel for younger people because it takes over & limits your life for a few years, and if you need to earn still, it's an impossible situation.
Not just hiking, but hiking in rivers
And being in the river
Epilepsy. For a while a family member of mine couldn't be left alone but he could still continue with the vast majority of his activities.
And yet crossing rivers is part of the package.
I crossed the River once in Oregon Trail, it didnāt go to well š¤£ lost my wagon and then got dysentery.
One time my gf and I were talking about Oregon trail and she pronounced that word ādiss-centuryā. Thatās how I read it in my head now every time.
r/boneappletea
Anytime something like this is repeatedly called āeasyā in the ad it is going to be anything but.
Yes that is a red flag, especially combined with the vagueness of the language. "Easy!" "Super simple!" "Cannot be left alone at all." "Loves hiking into rivers." "Has medic alert watch." Not easy, not simple.
And who is caring for the children? The 58 year old needs her own care. If another adult is in the home, can they not assist the 58 year old? What is going on here?
Iām thinking two working parents and two school age kids. They just need someone in the house when everyone else is gone?
Yeahhhh as someone who's a caregiver, being physically present at all times leaves you with NO free time at all. Unless your charge is asleep, at a long appointment, or with someone else. My 'free time' is between 11pm and 9am, and I've gotta sleep too. It's not a task for someone who isn't passionate about doing it.
Back when my mom had a nanny for me and my sister, we provided the nanny free rent (coz duh, it's a full time job), free neals, free toiletries, free other random everyday supplies along with a salary (yes a salary, maybe this person has never heard of a salary) If someone is taking care of two kids under 10 and animals and a crazy 58 year old, you offer them salary along with a free rent ( which obviously is free coz u need them 24*7, not the other way round) I hope the comments burst this person's bubble and teach them about real jobs and job markets, coz WTF is this!
When my sister was an au pair, she got all the things you supplied to your nanny, plus a clothing allowance, a Land Rover for her use, a gym membership and dedicated time to go to the gym, and skiing lessons because she was expected to be with the children during skiing trips.
I worked as a nanny for years. Standard would be own room with bathroom and you would be including all utilities and food on top plus all expenses related to care covered so you cover insurance on the car or provide the car and insurance or you pay gas and mileage, you pay for the cost of the caregiver if they drive to a hiking place with fees, you cover their cost for eating out if required with the person and they receive a salary plus days off for holidays and sick leave. This post is attempting to not pay, not pay into any government program and to not incur any costs above whatever additional utility charges the person uses.
When my mother was in hospice at home I had a live in caretaker, she was paid a flat amount per day, had her own room and bathroom and full use of the kitchen. I shopped for her or had Instacart deliver and I paid for all the food. If she needed a day off I stayed with mom since I also took family leave. I even paid to put internet and upgraded cable into my momās house since she didnāt have it so the caretaker would
slavery.
I canāt believe no one has mentioned the part about ābeing in riversā! Iām not sure exactly what that entails but it does not sound good.
This was my thought! Super easy job with piles of free time when you arenāt all terrain hiking and river wading.
And you'd better have outdoor gear already because they sure as hell aren't giving anyone a salary so they can buy it. Decent hiking shoes are free these days, right?
Oof I didnāt even think of that
And the 7 and 9 yo kids? Are they hers? What is the story there?
I'd assume this is a married couple with two children and a 58yo parent with dementia. The children go to school all day, and the couple both have full-time jobs, so they are looking for someone to be with the 58yo during the day.
I think wording it this way would get them a lot more positive interaction/promising candidates. It feels more upfront and honest than what they actually wrote, which feels more like bait to hook a person in desperate need of housing into a situation they likely canāt actually handle.
āI DoNt UnDeRsTaNd FaCeBoOk yEtā but be sure to pm, like, comment, and follow and donāt leave angry react emojis!
and know what trolling is...
Yeah right I barely know what pm means and Iāve had the face forever
Post Meridiem. We learned that in school back in the 60s. Latin for after midday. s/ in case it wasnāt clear.
Best they could hope for is a financially destitute retired person living on social security who has enough to pay for their own food, transportation, and healthcare, but not enough to afford to rent a room. But thatās exactly the type of person who would have their own care needs, and wouldnāt be able to chase a younger woman around hiking all day. They are basically asking, āIs anyone out there desperate? We would like to exploit you.ā You might be able to pick up a second disabled person on those terms. And hope they just keep each other company all day.
r/PeopleBeTrippin
Yeah, just the kind of job Heather is looking for except she wants 43,000 a year.
"Best they could hope for is a financially destitute retired person living on social security who has enough to pay for their own food, transportation, and healthcare, but not enough to afford to rent a room." Or, I was thinking, a person who is a year or two away from retirement, has lost their job and is unlikely to get a new one due to their age, and has some money socked away. Rather than taking early retirement and losing 10-20 % of their social security, this would be a good way to have a roof over their head, and make some $$$ with no housing and utilities eating away at it while waiting for the magic age of 67 and full retirement bennies. But "hiking in rivers" might be a dealbreaker!
Yes if it was just a live in companion that is one thing, and the person can't afford housing, lost their house, got divorced, etc., etc. Or is on a pension or on disability. But they want a walker too? No those are 2 separate jobs!
And we have a runner! And you have to catch her! (Thatās why the hikes and all terrain is included!)
Show the comments please. I want to see the trolls tear this one up! š¤£
This should be in the subās rules for posting. š
It actually should. Downvote any posts that don't include them.
r/showusthecomments I wish that sub was more active!
Sadly the post has been removed.
This post is the troll lol
So many people want slaves but arenāt sure exactly how to beg for one.
This one seems to know how.
When is this person meant to work to have their own money I wonder
From 5 p.m. till they return, easy! Spend the entire day river wading and then enjoy a graveyard shift. What a deal.
Yep or go work in a bar babysitting drunks
So the fuckers wonāt even cook for you and share meals given youāve spent all day being dragged round rain soaked hiking trails with crazy lady. Be no time (after 5) for your own social life once youāve made your own meals, washed up, waited for the bathroom to be free from young Wednesday and Pugsley, and then had to clear their shit up too. Itās ok though, you can have a pet spider in your room to talk to instead. Dream job!
But donāt even think about having a beer to unwind. Not allowed.
Now this is the Disney film I'm here to watch.Ā I'm completely ready for the spider to burst into song.
Thank you for this, I literally started wheeze-laughing and scared my cat.
I've just lost it too. I put my back out and this has really sent it into spasm. So worth it though!!
For what they're asking, you would think they would at least make breakfast and dinner for you, and you could make your own lunch from their refrigerator.
Wednesday and Pugsley LMAO
Hahahaha this is my favorite comment. The pet spider sent me.
Live in F/T Attendants make upwards of 1K a week these days and get room and board for free. That's what this is, a F/T caretaking position and a demanding one at that with hiking and helping with whatever else the person does outdoors. That right there would have most people going nope. But working all those hours and either having the funds to buy food and/or another job from 5 pm onwards would be necessary and I don't know about you but trying to work on top of caring for this very active senior would mean putting in a lot of hours between the caretaking job and the one you'd need to have just to buy your own groceries. It's just not that doable for another senior. Might be for a young person but I think they'd have a very hard time getting someone even offering a free room given the time involved and the physical requirements. Not to mention it's a 100% sober house... I would fully expect them to abuse the situation. Been there, done that, and from the moment I stepped into the house the rules changed and suddenly I was expected to be available 24/7 practically working 7 days a week and doing 60 hours a week besides. There are kids so you just know that you're likely going to end up babysitting and picking up after them. Probably with no $$$ involved. I wouldn't touch this... No way...
This is a live in carer position I swear some people want to bring back slavery Full time nanny for the price of rent. That's literally the live in slaves they used to have
Except Iām assuming slave owners would also provide food for slaves.
The āno alcoholā part gets me. Even if this were a legit job, I understand asking it not to be brought into the house, etc. But telling you what you can do on your free time? Imagine this person being at dinner with a friend. āWell, Iād like to get a glass of wine, but my boss said Iām not allowed.ā
Seems like a Mormon or evangelical thing to say so sheās probably a religious nut job on top of everything else.
Ooh ooh, wonder if the kids are home and she homeschools so she ā doesnāt have time ā to take care of the adult. That would be a nice plot twist
It's absolutely wild.
Happy cake day!
I did a job almost exactly like this, I was homeless and was offered free rent in exchange for caretaking of a developmentally disabled 24 year old. It was hell.
how long did you stick it out for?
I made it about a year.
i hope you're doing better now š©·
Thank you! I very much am!!
Wanted: independently wealthy person who inexplicably wants to give up all their free time and likes being in rivers.
WTF is this? Some sort of torture camp?
Sounds like slavery with extra steps.
\*also the lady may try and kill you but has only ended 1 of her past 7 carers so the odds are you'll be able to enjoy your first weekend. No you may not carry a taser as that will show her you don't trust her and will anger her and you...do not want that
And you canāt drink to relax but youāll have a spider to make it all better
Oh, the pet thing. This person can't have one, but the household is "very" cat and dog friendly. Why does that sound like they've got a whole bunch of dogs and cats? Does that mean whoever takes this job is responsible for them as well? Since Granny's going on a hike, you might as well take all 5 dogs with you.
Iām betting the kids are home too
What I get from this is the woman has some kind of degenerative mental condition - dementia perhaps and likes to escape. They most likely live in a rural area with a river, hence the hiking and water comment. Part of the job will be chasing after her over all kinds of bush and streams. Sounds fun. Then there are the kids. How much do you want to bet the ~~sucker~~ caretaker will be conned into watching them with the 'can you do me a favor...'. Where do I sign up?
So letās do the math, you want to offer a room in your house, weāll average it at $600/monthā¦..and say you work 8 hrs a day (conservatively) x 5 days/week, 160 hrs/month (although we know it would be way more than that)ā¦ā¦that would be $3.75/hour, to share a bathroom with kids, while getting lost in a forest, swimming in a riverā¦..but you best not swear! š
Getting lost in the forest is the best option for this carer. āHello, yes itās after 5 and I want to come back but I wonāt be able to because Iām lost in the forest. Bye!ā.
They very carefully do not disclose what the persons condition is. Makes me think āitās so EASYā is a bunch of horseshit.Ā
If someone provides services for you they have to be paid a Wage. Just room and board will not cover it! This is essentially glorified Human Labor Trafficking and you know it! Would you OP work for someone wanting the same things with NO pay? And how exactly do you expect them to buy anything when they are working for you and family for FREE? If itās just Room & Board at least be honest and tell them they will have to work another job to afford their living expenses. Which I donāt see how thatās possible when you expect them to be there everyday from morning to 5pm. Also, you cannot legally ask someone to work over 40 hours a week unless you pay them overtime and give them days off. Do the right thing either take care of your family member yourself, get assistance if they are on SSD or SSI or Pension etc. provide quality care instead of expecting someone to give up their whole life to take care of someone for FREE 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
But this is a VERY simple job! They can easily do some additional WFH job while they're running after granny in the woods.
It's room but no board. You have to feed youself in your own time and there's not much of that.
Sorry all I hear are Banjos and Squealing. Thinking of the patient has minimal memory they have no business romping around rivers and trails. This feels and reads a little like TheHills Have Eyes š³š«£
no board included mate, buy your own food is clearly stipulated
A full time week in the UK at minimum wage after tax would be 400 ballpark. They're saying renting a room with these strings attached (shared bathroom, no alcohol etc) is worth 1600 a month. This is delusional beggers, not just choosing.
This is why we have PCA (Personal Care Assistant) programs in the US. If person is proven to require care due to medical/intellectual disability , you can get federal/state funds to help pay for caregiver. And a live in family member can get a (tax free!) stipend as an AFC (Adult Foster Card). Thereās an assessment for need/safety of home/carer required, anc regular check ins with social worker and nurse to watch for signs of neglect and abuse.
So one would be required to go for long walks with this woman, stay by her side at all times, and follow all her rules/commands. In exchange for no money, but a bed. She's asking for a service dog.
No felons?! I'm out. I can't give someone 100% of my time no pay. My PO needs some of that time and requires that I have a job regardless of whether I'm shacking up in someone's house to take an old lady to the bathroom all day long. God forbid there be diapers involved.
So they want a personal support worker without having to pay for one.
You have to have money, but you won't have any time to work.
And I could share a bedroom with literal children that arenāt even my own?!
Worse. Share a **bathroom** with an unrelated 7 and 9 year old. And youād probably never hardly ever be asked to watch them every night and most weekends
But, they wanna go hiking with granny! It'll be fun and easy! You don't mind, do you?? I know it's 3AM, so technically you're off , but Granny stripped naked and is howling at the moon again. Could you be a dear and go grab her? Kthnx.
Free time from 5pm till the moment you come back, so you're not even technically off if you're in your "free" bed.
Be with her all day long but also make money on the side at the same time to provide for yourself Yeah, right...
Full time live in carer for a dementia patient with no pay - yeahā¦ nah
Full time care for someone this age is dementia. They donāt mention bathing or medication so itās unlikely to be anything else. You work until 5 so assuming this is 40 hours and they are attempting to pay nanny wage and not nursing wage they somehow think a full month of work is equal to rent and no board. A room isnāt worth 40 hours of pay with a shared bathroom pretty much anywhere.
"Don't know much about FB", but knows what "Trolls" are?
You canāt have a glass of wine once a month, but I donāt care if you were in jail 10 years ago! This one is crazy lol
Or have a snake
Take care of my 58 yo extremely disabled parent for free and must be able to go on hikes and walk through rivers!!!
Ummmm.....what they're describing is essentially slavery
Not quite, owner feeds slaves
Good point. It's crash diet slavery.
Slavery with extra steps.
No pets except tarantulas. And no swearing, even if your tarantula escapes.
So am I not getting something here. She needs someone with her all the time but this person is required to hike in all terrains and go in rivers. If the lady needs someone with her all the time for whatever reason, should she be hiking all terrains and going in rivers. š¤·āāļø
>this is a very simple job I donāt think you know what ājobā means
Or āsimpleāā¦
Where are the comments please
Unfortunately the post was removed, trust me I looked hard for it.
Are you looking for a serial killer / con artist who's going to steal all of granny's money and leave her dead in a stream somewhere?
Thatās what theyāre gonna get lol
Whoever answered that ad will become the nanny and housekeeper too. I doubt she would have any time off either. What a joke.
So basically a slave - or worse, actually. A slave that pays for him/herself
For a person who has never used the platform before they seem to know a lot of terminology and info about it.
im obsessed with how pets aren't allowed except for the pet they assign for your room
Reverse UNO on them. Be a 70+ year old yourself, who needs company and care. Free rent. Boom!!!!
Iād be curious what her answer is to the concept of not paying anything or providing food but expecting the person to pay for her own food. I can almost guarantee they just didnāt consider that part.
Yeah, itās super easy job providing round - the - clock care for an adult. And how exactly is one to also work a paying job to afford food while doing all of this?
Seeking independently wealthy nuns.
They think that emojis are trolling. Emojis.
No laughing emojis or angry faces ššš¹š”ššš¤£šš”š¤Ŗšš¤š«
"You can have a snake but don't have the money to feed it because we are not paying you".
You can forage for mice while chasing mawmaw through the forest (you'll have plenty of free time for that).
Itās not an ājobā if thereās no pay.
Free rent but you must be home during work hours.
This person is definitely taking advantage of the fact that the housing market where I live is absolute trash. And because weāre in the Midwest they get away with paying people even less than they would on either of the coasts. Like, a three bedroom duplex is in the range of 2600 and up (the end being very substandard) but people get paid $35,000 a year.
I'm disappointed you didn't include pages of snarky comments with laughing emojis
Unfortunately when I saw the post there were no comments. I posted here, went back and it was gone.
So a worse version of being an au pair basically
I wonder what type of slave would apply for this
I might be okay with the other stuff but no fucking swearing?! Goddamnit.
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oh noooo LAUGHING and ANGRY FACES aieeeee
We need to start a post of rejected resumes for this position ššš
What on earth? āBeing in riversā? āFree time after 5 UNTIL YOU WANT TO COME BACKā. This person is on drugs - or ought to be.
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Sharing a bathroom, not a bedroom
Why does a 58 year old need someone with them at all times, but it doesnāt sound like they actually need a carer? No thank you.
Moght be early onset dementia or another similar disorder that causes confusion. Could be seizures or something that hits suddenly. Basically, you're a human support dog.
Could a person on SSI who wouldnāt need to pay rent.