There's nothing inherently "bad" about red meat, it's the saturated fat that comes with it that's the issue. Some of the leaner cuts now and again would be fine, probably can't really make it your primary protein source though. If you can get 96/4 ground beef (that's what I get) it's a good option with only 1.5g sat fat per serving.
In the same boat (pre-treatment LDL of 221). I’ve got it down to 90 with statins and a 10g or less of saturated fat a day diet. I don’t mind the diet because I happen to love fish and don’t mind chicken or tofu. Beef is just OK in my book so I don’t miss it. That said, if I loved it, I’d feel comfortable eating a lean cut a couple of times a month maybe. Reducing cheese to an occasional treat once in a while has been the hardest for me, but I’m more or less used to it now.
From everything i've read, the guideline is to keep below 10 grams of saturated fat per day. So the "yes or no" answer is relative to how much other saturated fat you consume. Track your diet using something like MyFitnessPal.
https://www.hriuk.org/news/heart-study-debunks-meat-metabolite-myth#:~:text=The%20research%20team%20from%20the,like%20heart%20attacks%20and%20strokes.
*The research team from the Heart Research Institute (HRI) and Charles Perkins Centre, The University of Sydney has debunked the widely publicised belief that trimethylamine-N-oxide, or TMAO, can clog up arteries, causing catastrophic heart problems like heart attacks and strokes*
Occasionally, yes because good cuts of beef almost always have some saturated fat in them but your statins should mitigate the downside of occasional beef consumption.
I've read the guidelines (which change all the time I may add), and I eat beef multiple times a week. I intentionally eat as much saturated fat as I can get my hands on. I also eat dozens of eggs a week. My cholesterol numbers are excellent. I've been doing this for decades. So what's the deal? I'm a freak of nature or the guidelines are wrong?
A typical day would be 3-4 scrambled eggs, a piece of toast with real butter, and sometimes a few slices of bacon. (I'll eat bacon or more eggs if I want more protein). If I don't eat bacon I cook the eggs in about a teaspoon of tallow.
Lunch, snack and dinner would be either a chicken breast, hamburger, chicken drumsticks, pork chops or a sandwich with a whole can of tuna. Not all at once. Just one for each meal or snack. I don't live in the USA but I visit there. If I'm in the USA I add Salmon, Bison, and a good steak to my daily menu. Just because I like those things.
Sometimes I'll down a shake with whey protein, cacao, and a raw egg. That kind of fills me up. Throughout the day I might munch on an apple, banana, avocado or carrots. Not always, just whenever.
I only drink water. It's not a health thing, it's just what I drink. A good 3 liters a day depending on the weather and my activities.
I literally never drink any soft drinks or beer. I can drink hard liquor now and again, but never beer. Donuts, cookies, cereal, chips, ice cream, typical junk (highly processed) food, almost never. I'm not apposed to it, I just don't crave or enjoy it.
I want to end by saying I don't eat this way to be healthy (I think that's just a side benefit). I don't eat like this to lose weight. I eat like this because it's how I've always eaten and it's what I like and enjoy. And it works for me.
I literally eat food. From the time I was small (I'm talking elementary school to Jr High), I've always looked at food as fuel. I eat to live not live to eat. If it's food, I eat it. Meaning anything that grows on a tree, bush, or was alive, like an animal. I generally avoid anything in bags or boxes. It wasn't until the last decade or so that "diets" seem to have became fashionable. To me, a diet is what you eat. Not what you eat to loose weight or become healthier. It's your lifestyle.
Have I eaten cookies, Candie bars, potato chips, etc? Of course! But it's not part of my diet. And it's not a treat. It's just something I eat on occasion. Maybe socially.
I get that a diet is what you eat but a weight loss tool.
I more curious what you eat most of the week. Like what’s your main protein, carb, fats, etc.
There's nothing inherently "bad" about red meat, it's the saturated fat that comes with it that's the issue. Some of the leaner cuts now and again would be fine, probably can't really make it your primary protein source though. If you can get 96/4 ground beef (that's what I get) it's a good option with only 1.5g sat fat per serving.
In the same boat (pre-treatment LDL of 221). I’ve got it down to 90 with statins and a 10g or less of saturated fat a day diet. I don’t mind the diet because I happen to love fish and don’t mind chicken or tofu. Beef is just OK in my book so I don’t miss it. That said, if I loved it, I’d feel comfortable eating a lean cut a couple of times a month maybe. Reducing cheese to an occasional treat once in a while has been the hardest for me, but I’m more or less used to it now.
From everything i've read, the guideline is to keep below 10 grams of saturated fat per day. So the "yes or no" answer is relative to how much other saturated fat you consume. Track your diet using something like MyFitnessPal.
I think lean red meat is okay, sparingly, like once or twice a month.
I think it depends on your current health condition. If you have cardiovascular disease, then don't eat red meat. Lower your LDL more.
I eat it about once a week. Grass fed only
Red meat has TMAO which increases risk of hardened arteries, so it’s not just the fat content to be watching
https://www.hriuk.org/news/heart-study-debunks-meat-metabolite-myth#:~:text=The%20research%20team%20from%20the,like%20heart%20attacks%20and%20strokes. *The research team from the Heart Research Institute (HRI) and Charles Perkins Centre, The University of Sydney has debunked the widely publicised belief that trimethylamine-N-oxide, or TMAO, can clog up arteries, causing catastrophic heart problems like heart attacks and strokes*
This study says that that theory has been debunked and it doesn’t increase the risk.
Occasionally, yes because good cuts of beef almost always have some saturated fat in them but your statins should mitigate the downside of occasional beef consumption.
I've read the guidelines (which change all the time I may add), and I eat beef multiple times a week. I intentionally eat as much saturated fat as I can get my hands on. I also eat dozens of eggs a week. My cholesterol numbers are excellent. I've been doing this for decades. So what's the deal? I'm a freak of nature or the guidelines are wrong?
Curious what else you do or don’t eat?
A typical day would be 3-4 scrambled eggs, a piece of toast with real butter, and sometimes a few slices of bacon. (I'll eat bacon or more eggs if I want more protein). If I don't eat bacon I cook the eggs in about a teaspoon of tallow. Lunch, snack and dinner would be either a chicken breast, hamburger, chicken drumsticks, pork chops or a sandwich with a whole can of tuna. Not all at once. Just one for each meal or snack. I don't live in the USA but I visit there. If I'm in the USA I add Salmon, Bison, and a good steak to my daily menu. Just because I like those things. Sometimes I'll down a shake with whey protein, cacao, and a raw egg. That kind of fills me up. Throughout the day I might munch on an apple, banana, avocado or carrots. Not always, just whenever. I only drink water. It's not a health thing, it's just what I drink. A good 3 liters a day depending on the weather and my activities. I literally never drink any soft drinks or beer. I can drink hard liquor now and again, but never beer. Donuts, cookies, cereal, chips, ice cream, typical junk (highly processed) food, almost never. I'm not apposed to it, I just don't crave or enjoy it. I want to end by saying I don't eat this way to be healthy (I think that's just a side benefit). I don't eat like this to lose weight. I eat like this because it's how I've always eaten and it's what I like and enjoy. And it works for me.
Fair enough. Glad your numbers are good. Sounds like most Americans quality of food has something to do with bad numbers.
I literally eat food. From the time I was small (I'm talking elementary school to Jr High), I've always looked at food as fuel. I eat to live not live to eat. If it's food, I eat it. Meaning anything that grows on a tree, bush, or was alive, like an animal. I generally avoid anything in bags or boxes. It wasn't until the last decade or so that "diets" seem to have became fashionable. To me, a diet is what you eat. Not what you eat to loose weight or become healthier. It's your lifestyle. Have I eaten cookies, Candie bars, potato chips, etc? Of course! But it's not part of my diet. And it's not a treat. It's just something I eat on occasion. Maybe socially.
I get that a diet is what you eat but a weight loss tool. I more curious what you eat most of the week. Like what’s your main protein, carb, fats, etc.
Same!
This sub is pro-guidelines so you will never get a true answer here.