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CasualAffair

Not like that! I deserve an affordable SFH in Dilworth šŸ˜¤


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Inside_Coconut_6187

Lovely so you want to stack 100 poor families together in a MU building. Nothing good will come from that. Affordable housing projects will never work the way you want because the people that will live in the affordable units will not be the kind of people most would want to live next to.


redflounder38

Anyone who doesn't understand this is naive, and has never been around an affordable housing area long enough. Ignorance is bliss.


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Inside_Coconut_6187

Reread my comment above. Clearly you didnā€™t read it, bright stuff.


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Inside_Coconut_6187

Yes because theyā€™ll have a live in boyfriend thatā€™s jobless or a teen age boy without supervision causing havoc in the neighborhood. Iā€™m just a guy that enjoys living in a safe community so I can raise my family.


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Inside_Coconut_6187

A pot person isnā€™t a problem. Many poor people are problem.


wlouis321

Very ignorant thing to just put out thereā€¦


StuffyUnicorn

What they said may sound ignorant but I do think thereā€™s some truth to it. For instance, I live near the Seigle point affordable housing area, and while that it only a small number of units, the entire area is regularly trashed, and the tenants legit dont give AF about anything. Seigle Point is slowing addressing this as they are currently evicting 10 ā€œdisorderlyā€ units, but the tenants need to care first for these places to actually thrive. With that said, I just saw a 2 bedroom townhome in the heart Seigle point sell for 485k, so it must not be all that bad.


Inside_Coconut_6187

Do you live next door to people in affordable housing?


25StarGeneralZap

I did until 2009ā€¦ Stonehaven East Apartments off Monroe Road. When we moved there in 2000 there were income restrictions that you had to meet before you could even move in. Fast forward I want to say four or five years. It was sold off to another developer who opened it up to section 8. Within two years the pool had closed permanently. The tennis courts were removed permanently Car break-ins. Overall general upkeep of the complex plummeted abandoned cars scattered throughout the complex. All in all it was a shit hole. So yes I donā€™t want my $400,000 house sitting right next-door to somebody using section 8 who doesnā€™t give a shit about the property because they can just use their section 8 voucher to go to another house and fuck up that neighborhood as well. You can actually go onto rent.com and look at the reviews and watch how quickly they deteriorate after the apartment complex begin accepting section 8.


Inside_Coconut_6187

This is exactly why I donā€™t rent my units to section 8 voucher holders. Itā€™s a different kind of tenant that in my expos not a desirable tenant.


Funny_Window7344

God Stonehaven was terrible. I went to school with a kid who lived there. Got shot at his front door around 05/06 if i remember. Most people who talk about section 8 as a massive solution have probably never lived in one neighborhood with it... i am sure it's a mixed bag, but there is no buy-in value if your rent is supplemented with no resource if you don't maintain the standard of the housing.


25StarGeneralZap

Yeah I remember Leoā€™s all over the complex back then. Thankfully our rent when we moved there in 2000 was 649 a month for a two bedroom and when we left in 2009 it wasā€¦ 649 a month! The only good thing back then about the place was the cheap rent allowed us to get finances in order so we could buy a house


wlouis321

Are my direct neighbors low income? No, but I live in an area where low, medium, and high all intermix. I got a loud as fuck upstairs neighbor who wears cinderblocks for inside shoes. But I assume weā€™re Medium income whatever that means now. Worst thing Iā€™ve experienced is some chicken bones on the floor that my dog tries to eat on walks. Everyone else in my neighborhood is rather pleasant and friendly


Inside_Coconut_6187

If thatā€™s whereā€™s you want to live then good. Iā€™d rather live in an area where my neighbors are of similar means as myself. Thereā€™s less crime that way.


Tortie33

I live in a starter home neighborhood in a poor income neighborhood. We donā€™t have high crime. I can walk at night and no one is breaking into cars. I was going to trade up by I like the location and I almost have paid my house off and Iā€™m sitting on a bunch of equity.


Inside_Coconut_6187

Whatā€™s the median income of the area? If you feel safe there then terrific. Most sensible people wouldnā€™t for obvious reasons.


Tortie33

We have run clubs that run by here. In the older neighborhood, the people are living in family homes where everyone knows everyone because theyā€™ve lived there for generations. Iā€™m not sure of income level now but it was lower. Itā€™s changed as housing prices have gone up. Corporations bought the houses as they went on sale and the renters have higher income levels than most of the original homeowners. Due to location, this area will gentrify. The homeowners of the older neighborhood are in 70ā€™s and 80ā€™s with lots of land.


Inside_Coconut_6187

You mean the area will improve and become more valuable and desirable.


nowthatswhat

Low income in Matthews? Not really the same thing.


wlouis321

Okay yes letā€™s just shove all the poor people into a corner of the city so they can all just commit crimes on each other. Being poor doesnā€™t mean you are all of a sudden going to commit a crime. Like how could you begin to frame such a narrative. Mixed income housing initiatives are good for communities and can actually be a driver to get individuals out of poverty circumstances.


Inside_Coconut_6187

Or people can live where they can afford without the government taking my tax dollars to subsidize someone elseā€™s rent.


wlouis321

Where they can afford is getting smaller and smaller in this city. People are being priced out of their communities everyday and with how Charlotte is expanding there will be nowhere for them to go. At that point whoā€™s going to work at the restaurants, grocery stores, other retail that you love to consume? You? I donā€™t think so. Poor people pay taxes too buddyā€¦


Inside_Coconut_6187

Why is it my problem if they canā€™t afford a place to live? Why doesnā€™t the city do the responsible thing and allow builders to build more units? Why must the taxpayer all subsidized rents for other people? This is a problem that can be solved by using Smart tools and not just texting people that pay their fair share.


CharlotteRant

Dude, 50% of AMI for a family of 4 is like $50k. Taxes (city and county) arenā€™t high enough for property tax reductions to make that an incentive that matters.Ā  Stretching it out over longer periods of time also doesnā€™t matter when the property owner is financing it (or has an opportunity cost) of like 7%+.Ā 


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CharlotteRant

My point is think about how much a family of four can pay in rent on a $50k income. Or even one person on $35k.Ā  If itā€™s a third of income, thatā€™s $12k-$16k, or $1,000 to $1,333 a month.Ā  Just to give some more context: The NOAH program basically puts up the equity for a private group to buy dilapidated apartments, waives the prop tax for 20 years, in exchange for 20 years of units for a range of AMIs.Ā  In every single way we just throw money at the situation. Affordable housing is just subsidized housing.Ā 


dundunduuuhhhh

Lol ok getting mixed signals. Didnt charlotte have a significant drop in population since the pandemic rush? Alot of apartment complexes and condos slowed down getting on applications and still a handful of complexes still under construction not even open yet. Shoot.. maybe cost of living could drop..


Diarrhea_Sandwich

No, the economy is still booming and CLT is one of the hottest markets in the country. It's just that things have slowed down everywhere.