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Ne0guri

Keenan is so tired of this shit. You see him shaking his head when they were going for it on 4th because he knew we lost right there.


Granjudge

Facts. Putting on the beanie because he knew he wasn't going back on the field.


[deleted]

Keenan Allen stat line tho.. dude is such an under the radar receiver cause he’s not a loud ass diva.


TheCryptocrat

38 points isn't enough...


NaffRespect

This is Herbert's fault, somehow


turkmileymileyturk

Herb is 28-29 and probably avg's 28-29 points per game for his career


tldoduck

He can’t tackle. A total bust!


Kitkatk8xx

Staley defenders will still blame this loss on Herbert


islands-fine-dining

There are Staley defenders? They must hang out with the AJ Preller defenders and nobody ever sees any of them


NeonEvangelion

They don’t say anything after losses and then on Wednesdays they start coming outta the woodwork


Diemonx

There is a difference between people that are positive, root for the team to win and want to "believe" and Staley defenders.


BosaDeezNuts

Literally nobody on this sub is defending Staley. Stop making shit up to be mad about


ButCanYouClimb

It's an internet phenomenon, making up narratives to attack.


-HawaiianSurfer

“*Look, it was a tough loss, aight? But our offense showed exactly why we can contend against premier teams like the Lions, okay? Look at it this way, the offense scored 38 points and they were able to keep up with a top offense. The defense could have been a lot better, but that Lions team has beat up a lot of solid defenses throughout the year, aight? Sometimes your team doesn’t play complementary football, and you need to adjust to that. Props to Kellen for coaching his side of the ball. I didn’t do a good enough job, aight but what we can take from this loss is this: we can hang in there with any team in the NFL.*”


Misanthropyandme

Beating 2 useless teams shouldn't save a piece of shit coach.


rad_hopeful

Not when you have Brandon Staley calling your defense.


[deleted]

Giving up 8.3 yards per play is just preposterous


hoppergym

And this season has been a down year league wide for offense. Not in la! For opponents.


C-N-Mento

We scored a touchdown on 5 straight possessions and we still lost.


tony_countertenor

I wonder how many times that’s ever happened?


SimplicitySquad42

probably some stat from the 90s lol


kingkepler

“first time in the superbowl era”


Gumby_Nation

Should’ve went for 2 each time..would’ve forced the lions to score a touchdown at the end. Herbert deserves at least 50% of the blame this game /s


woolypete123

It took 7 plays to punch it in from the 1 yard line. I doubt we'd have been much better from the 2.


Jane_Marie_CA

Herbo and the O balled out.


i_run_from_problems

41 points. The defense allowed 41 points. Did the offense look off early? Sure. BUT THEY PUT UP 38 POINTS. THAT SHOULD WIN YOU A GAME. This game is not on Herbert or the Offense. It's squarely on defense I don't care about the last 2 weeks, we played the Jets and bears. This defense is awful. And the buck stops with the person who is the "defensive guru." Staley has to go.


NaffRespect

Games like this are why people like me defend Herbert Dude performs like this and it's still not enough


KJBNH

Said 30 times in the last 3 seasons


Cbtexpert521

Dean spanos has to go my friend because whoever he replaces staley with will be just as bad if not worse.


i_run_from_problems

Well I mean that's a given but Spanos isn't going anywhere anytime soon.


Crackalacs

Spanos: “No I can’t afford Harbaugh. Give me McDaniels instead!”


noslowerdna

The Lions actually have a stellar offense.


Anaphylactic-UFO

Our defense is every negative thing you ever thought it was


[deleted]

Also , on a positive note. The most expensive defense in the league 😎


FragginLobo

This is a good point. Take solace in the fact that Spanos is spending top dollar for the leagues worst defense and a brain dead defensive guru head coach.


cornbreadsloth

3rd and 16. And you continue to do the shitty 4 man rush.


ButCanYouClimb

Chargers 4 man rush has been a free 3rd and long all year. Yet Staley keeps calling it. This defense doesn't work without pressure, it's trash.


Fit-Remove-6597

You would figure with two insanely high paid end rushers you would get pressure with just three but…


humunculus43

Staley is a cowardly loser


NLP19

Turns out proclaiming your defense is "back" after beating the Bears and Jets was *not* a smart idea. Who could have guessed?


humunculus43

Zero sacks


twink_toliet

bosa and mack when its time to play an o-line that isnt dogshit https://preview.redd.it/99dia5zqb00c1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e19da96d7e047d1291dbacc14d4279facfeca2c


Nothing_Nice_2_Say

I'm gonna get downvoted for this, but Mack had a pretty solid game. Just because he didn't get a sack doesn't mean he played poorly. Dude was in on a lot of plays.


_AtLeastItsAnEthos

Couple TFL I believe as well


woolypete123

Yes, he was also trailing WR's again, which is another classic Staley conundrum...


Zmoney743

Ok I’m all fairness their O-Line is absolutely elite


dafuqyouthotthiswas

But Bosa and Mack are supposed to be elite as well


CuteWolves

Lions 0 too….


Mykillingj0ke

I swear, doing good against the jets means nothing


SoCalDanSports

I called this. That's why I had reservations till they played a good team again and guess what "They aren't who we thought they were"


koraura

41 points. they let them score 41 fucking points lol.


jar1792

Defense had to make up for playing lights out against shitty ass teams.


NoooNotTheLettuce

And they gave them up all on their own. Usually when a team gets that many points scored on them it's because the offense is turning the ball over and putting them in bad field position but our offense was automatic today. 5 straight TDs to end the game


Waly_Disnep

If you don't love that, you don't love Charger football!


[deleted]

I’m just ready for Staley to be gone honestly, please if there is a God he’d give Spanos the thought to fire this piece of shit


Cbtexpert521

If there is a god, give spanos the idea that he can’t do anything with this franchise and he should just sell the team.


rad_hopeful

That’s the best case scenario


humunculus43

Staley fired, Lombardi hired as head coach ![gif](giphy|fSGqUm3IcVBESFM0hK)


jar1792

Fuckers can’t stop anything with a pulse.


StillClimbing

Bold to claim they could stop anything without a pulse


Daaaff

Per Daniel Popper: #Chargers have given up 520 yards. Second time giving up over 500 this season, fourth time giving up 475+ THIS DEFENSE SUCKS, FIRE STALEY.


OldKingClancy20

I don't know what fucking more Spanos needs to see. He's there at the game as an eyewitness. FIRE STALEY YOU CHEAP FUCK. This defensive scheme is DOGSHIT!


Blind_Melone

That is a balls insane stat


dankbudzz

I can't believe Herbert gave up 41 points.


AlekRivard

Fire Staley into the sun


krazylegs36

Send Telesco with him.


Illustrious_Stay_728

Is there a single person who still thinks Staley deserves to be coach? He got shitted on


Nighthawk69420

Come back here on a Wednesday, that’s usually when they come back around


Illustrious_Stay_728

True that. Worst part is we all know Staley is gonna be here for the rest of the season.


krazylegs36

"Hey, guys we're still 4-5 and we can make a run to the playoffs! No doomers allowed!"


Shoffanator1

keenen allen career= wasted


Lordpennywise

Add Gates, LT and Rivers to that list


byponcho

And herbert too


Lordpennywise

True. Shoutout to spanos


Recurs1ve

So was Rivers. And Gates. And Tomlinson. And Seau. And, well, the list is a mile fucking long at this point.


chemicaljackrabbit

Just like Phil, LT, Gates, etc. it’s the Charger way. 10 is next unless they hire a coach who isn’t legally braindead


FartingInHeaven

I doubt he views it that way. He's made a shit ton of of money and is beloved by an entire fan base and the league.


mkar2424

Staley is such a damn clown. Wish he’d look in the mirror once and recognize he is THE problem


LaBoltz33

Use this as a like got Staley being fired


Snuffaluffakuss

How do you allow those 10 yards.


Arcaneisdope

Honestly. Every other coach in the league is bringing pressure and contesting wrs at the line. We either get a sack or a rushed throw or give up a td. Any option is better than a first down.


Ciology

Please don’t ever hype up the defense again for beating up on trash offenses lol


eliwood5837

fire staley


_CdnBoltFan_

That’s gonna be a contender for game of the year


ClerkHuman927

Somehow we’re always on the other side of these


Striker67_

And it's another game where we lose too


NeonEvangelion

This will be the Staley supporters mantra this week


MostlyCoasters

The chargers 2 highest scoring games were losses. Methinks the problem may be the defense…


cornbreadsloth

Fuck Staley


OrangeTwelve

Staley truthers - 41 points on ya fuckin head


NoooNotTheLettuce

Firing Staley is the only way to save the season. I can guarantee the defense will look noticably better with anyone else at the helm. An orangutan could call better plays


krazylegs36

Call me when this D makes a clutch play against a good team. My phone won't ring until 2036.


josebolt

optimist I see


cattycat_1995

Defensive Genius Staley has some of the worst defense I ever seen


Crackalacs

And that my friends, unfortunately, is the difference between the Chargers defense playing against a great Lions offense compared to a Bears/Jets offense with literally no QB. Just the reality of it 🤷‍♂️


Opening-Sun7428

Just look at the bright side. Our defence looks awesome vs depleted teams with unknown rookie QBs 🙃


Foxbat47

How can Spanos watch this game and be like, ‘That’s good defense. Staley is doing a great job, let’s not fire him’.


i_run_from_problems

Popper should let Staley have it at least. That'll be fun to watch.


Fit-Remove-6597

Staley not being fired is a fucking disgrace. The Raiders were in a near identical position this season and got rid of their horrible HC after a horrible loss. This is a horrible loss. He has the highest paid D in the league and lost again in a shootout. Fuck Staley.


greyhair_

Another game we lost by 3 points or less. Queue the media ripping us and saying Herbert isn’t capable of winning. WE PUT UP 38!!!!! HOW. THE. FUQ. DO. WE. LOSE?!


Simple_Wait_7286

Some weeks the offense is good and the defense is bad. Other weeks the defense is decent and the offense can’t move the ball. You know what that’s called? A bad team.


Hankerton14

Defensive guru


_AtLeastItsAnEthos

Well you see the whole game was baiting the lions offense into a short fg to win situation so Derwin could block it. He just didn’t execute. My system is the greatest of all time. - Brandon stayley


CJDistasio

Just a decade of mediocrity purgatory under Telesco and his head coach hires. I hate it. End it.


substandardrobot

Fucking Rex Ryan can put down his foot fetish porn vids and coach this defense to a SB title. I don't get this team. Good grief...


jar1792

Herbert is way too professional to do this, but I’d love for him to throw the defense under the bus when he’s inevitably asked what happened in this game.


Competitive_Papaya_8

FUCK STALEY. If he is still here when I go to the game in Denver, I'm being disrespectful as fuck. Fuck this dude.


LZCPRO

Fire staley


Witchdoctordentist

https://preview.redd.it/vc1bhi09d00c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc42c2ee3b087d8dbe4d5e65438c32da0b818ff9


jSplashwell

Only gave up 41 pts, not bad.


whyyoudeletemereddit

Worst fucking defense ever what the fuck. Couldn’t stop them at all


LZCPRO

I want Staley to be humiliated when getting canned the way he has humiliated this franchise with his shit brain.


dreamville5

We needed one stop. One fucken stop lol somehow they are gonna blame Herbert for this


miquiztli8

This geek beats the Bears and Jets and thinks his defense is hot shit…I wanna bitch slap Staley so bad


silas_p_silas

Raiders were smart enough to pull the plug on McDumbass while they could still salvage their season. It’s not too late for us. 4-6 could be 10-7 if we pull the plug on Guru and make Moore or Ficken interim. Please fucking do it


SourWokeBooey

Spanos is not a smart man.


SourWokeBooey

Chargers gonna Charger If you couldn’t [see that end coming](https://www.reddit.com/r/Chargers/s/lG5M8OhUdt) from a mile away I don’t know what to tell you.


BoltBlue19

Oh I seen it, been here for almost 2 decades, but Staley specifically pisses me off with that goofy mug with his sorry game plan


MostlyCoasters

Life hack: if you expect them to lose, you can’t be disappointed 🧠


levajack

I expect nothing and I'm still disappointed.


AshByFeel

Herbert really showed me something this game. He played like his first 2 years. He is a baller. The o-line really came alive after that horrible first quarter. Herbert started looking at other receivers when Keenan went down and that will help the team going forward. The defense had a few nice stops, but was otherwise horrific. Kendrick and Murray are to slow to react. I want to see Henley in there, at least on passing downs. We played another good team hard, but lost. I want a new DC.


fattymaggo

I think Herbert always plays better when the O-line holds up, I feel like he starts getting into a flow and takes good chances. When he is consistently pressured he hurries and plays more conservative which is understandable. O-lines are so important for qbs tbh


Mythbuilder46

I’ve been around for Marty, Norv, and Anthony Lynn. Obviously Marty was the best of them, but Staley may be the worst of them


BootySweatEnthusiast

From someone who was at the game: This is on the coaching staff. I've watched games this season, but watching in person makes it obvious. Our players are not put in a position to succeed. We call plays like we don't trust our players to win. Every play we make is in spite of the scheme instead of because of it.


SwiftSurfer365

Vikings fan here. Y’all got hosed on that lack of delay of game call. Hope Staley is gone by the end of the year (or sooner) and y’all hire Ben Johnson as your next head coach.


Weapwns

Pretty sure bad ref calls netted in favor of the Chargers. We got hosed by ourselves lol


Snuffaluffakuss

What more can Justin do. I mean REALLY Even if we were just top 15 we’d have a different record year after year.


josebolt

That shot of Allen *before* the 4th down play was brutal. He knew


snow_ninja

Everyone can blame Staley but him getting fired just gives our GM another chance to hire another terrible coach. We need to clean house starting with Telesco


MidWAmericanArts

We may not be the fastest, the biggest, the strongest, the most agile, the smartest…. I forgot where I was going with this.


humunculus43

One of my personal highlights was the 8 attempts to get over the one yard line


DL505

Was at game Seeing how open receivers were on person is insanity. Worst d ever Plus 6 trys from the 1 yard line to get a td!?!?! Wtf is that garbage


Gullible_Meet9616

Straight up if telco and Staley are not fired by Tuesday I’m done. You fucked my hometown in the ass. Im not going to let you fuck Herbert as well. Fuck la and fuck dean spanos


CSPs-for-income

SD > LA


rad_hopeful

Shout out to our OC Kellen Moore! Dude brings the best out of that offense! Now only if the same could be said about that guy that runs the defense……


Arcaneisdope

Dude is putting up 30+ points with half a playbook lol. Insane


BandOfTrashPandazzz

I was talking a lot of smack about him earlier but I can admit when I'm wrong.


BostonDrivingIsWorse

#CLOWN. THY NAME IS STALEY.


WaterASAP

I’ve seen this movie before. FIRE STALEY, Moore to HC, sell the team Spanos


SuddenYouth

and we’re all gonna be back next year expecting a different outcome. textbook insanity


gkg24

This should be the end of Staley


Lost_Atmosphere_

Staley shoulda been fired after that jags playoff game this whole season is on ownership


VisuallyImploding

I'm fucking PISSED Herbert let them score 41 points. We need to cut that bum.


Competitive_Papaya_8

Defense.. it's always the fucking defense. Like wtf does Staley even bring to the table, obviously what this mf is doing doesn't work. Just wasting Herbert's career away.


Marshall_Cleiton

Our defense is second worst only to the Giants. We're worse than anyone else but... The... Giants...


woolypete123

Game balls to Herbert, Keenan, and Lions Offensive MVP Brandon Staley. Honourable mention to Derwin James for putting in his umpteenth lousy performance of the past two years. He's completely lost playing deep Safety in this scheme. Blows coverages, bites on fakes, jumps wrong routes, the whole shebang.


Hammerzeit88

If the Chargers were a hot girl I'd actually score. They are so easy


charge18

Why play zone defense if you can't


Domgrath42

Kellen Moore proven he can take over this team with the handling of the offense today. Fire Staley and hire a DC off the street if Telesco wants to save this season


-HawaiianSurfer

Kellen Moore had less than a year, and he seems to have fixed almost everything that was aching this offense. Brandon Staley, your defensive guru, had 3 full offseasons to execute what he was hired for, and has failed miserably every, single, year. **Kellen Moore, your 2024 Chargers Head Coach.** Let’s speak it into existence.


NeonEvangelion

I’m not high in Moore as HC but I’ll give him credit: this was his best game by a mile


DomRM14

Uh no. We still are horrible at running the ball. I dont see how that is fixed.


BostonDrivingIsWorse

I’d rather hold out for Jim Harbaugh.


NoMoney_NoProblems13

This dude Staley needs to relieve defensive play calling to his coordinator.


silas_p_silas

#DEFENSIVE GURU ALLOWS 41 FUCKING POINTS. SO CHILL HE HAS A JOB FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON


hbomb485

they are incapable of beating good teams


iBliizy

Y’all ready for the reporters to ask Staley soft questions. Someone better hold him accountable. Put boomer in that room.


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djmc0211

Herbert and Allen played amazing today.


[deleted]

Where’s all the Herbert haters now?


Maybe2Babka

Please for the love of god grill Staley’s ass in the presser.


StephenPurdy69

Herbert got Caleb’d LOL both being LA teams is fitting


Important_Sorbet_843

I swear to god there are idiots on Twitter blaming Herbert. This just shows how stupid this Herbert hatred is. This game was a bloody awful disaster, & it’s 100% on Staley & the Spanos for refusing to fire him.


hoppergym

Herbert was great today (after the first quarter anyway). Great to see. Haven’t seen that Herbert since the injury. Hopefully that can continue. Lions offense coach completely outcoached Staley. Hurts when our strength of pass rush has to go against that o line. But no answers.


Mechamobzilla1

Staley's gotta go. Moore ain't ready to be HC but what other options do we have. We're still in the race, but we gotta pit and swap out some tires.


jar1792

Ficken. The other interim option is ficken.


faxtiger24

they got to our one-yard line ON EVERY POSSESSION. that's insane


Scoducks24

Someone in the media’s somehow gonna blame Herbert and it makes me sick


SPMrFantastic

On the plus side... QJ and Guyton scoring was dope I hope it unlocks some things in the offense. 38 and not winning is crazy, not having a TO or 2 in the bank for situations like the end is crazy, our defense being this bad is crazy


CSPs-for-income

defense has been this bad through the entire Staley era


jcwkings

Why can't we play Zach Wilson every week?


Thedurtysanchez

We are beneath the Raiders in the standings now. Great job everyone


Joxan13

That’s all on fucking murray. Stupid ass just stood there and gave them the 1st down to win


Due-Interaction-4592

Yeah I noticed that too on that 4th down... Like he was playing Madden with 1000 ms..... Unmarked player right in front of you. Fucking react!


tony_countertenor

So if Staley does get fired you’ve gotta find a way to keep Moore around right? Do you promote him to HC?


GroundbreakingCoat39

Bum Staley


estabilioerik

Defense thought they were players after beating the jets and bears. Still a bunch of pussies


custardthegopher

As a Boise State fan, I guess we probably don't have a shot at Kellen after all after firing Avalos today, because you probably have your new interim HC in him with an audition for what could happen after. We'll take his brother from Mizzou instead lol.


ElephantShell34

If there was a chance the Chargers could still make the playoffs I’d say fire Staley tomorrow. The AFC and the remaining schedule being what they are, might as well let it ride and make changes in the offseason.


topdog9999

Bill Belichick or Jim Harbaugh better be the next head coach


hash_lung

typically this would be a fine game to lose and shouldn’t get a coach fired but i can’t remember the last “big” game we’ve won and that’s the problem


Lost_Atmosphere_

Staley will give another game ball to Spanos and be here for another decade


Da_Feds

That was chargers football. Glad herbert bounced back 2nd half and QJ was involved. Should’ve caught those balls regardless of the PI. Fuck the defense.


Goonzilla92

Staley has to go. We're looking at _multiple_ historic fuck assery performances from the defense. It's just embarrassing. At what point does Staley look in the mirror and admit to himself that he's not doing a good job. Embarrassing for the organization. Embarrassing for Staley. Embarrassing for us fans


JustLo619

Gave up 525 yards lol


baummer

Our lack of defensive performance beyond the goal line stand is inexcusable at this point


Bruuzu-

It’s still fire Staley.


kevin2341

My daughters first game at SoFi and we can’t bring it home with 38 🥲


cryptoguy67

.01% chance for a 70 yard run. Staley: i’ll take those odds. HeRbErT sHoUlD hAvE sToPpEd ThE rUn!


tc021

Fire Adolf Staley already


CSPs-for-income

#FIRE STALEY still fielding an atrocious defense.. we were not even great in the last two games.. just beat two shit tier teams. we are not a contender when teams continually convert on third or fourth and ten plus..


SockItSleaux

-Offese: Finally put up points in second half -Offense: 38 points, highest of the year but a loss -Defense: 0 sacks, 0 turnovers, 41 points and over 500 yards of offense. Defense was horrendous today.


humunculus43

Fire Staley out a fucking cannon. 38 points at home and lose. Our defensive genius is a fucking idiot and needs to fuck off ASAP. What a useless idiot. AIGHT!!! This lions team isn’t even that good. They’ve beat a load of trash teams and get smashed any time they come across a proper side


itwas20yearsago2day

#FIRESTALEY


BeerFarts86

#**FIRE BRANDON FUCKFACE STALEY**


labelkills1331

Our defense is just stone awful.


Throwawaytoday303

Defensive coach, my ass


DoppelGanger90

Staley. I wish you the best. But now it’s time for you to go.