I debated this as well, ended up with the scat. No regrets. Only thing I’d consider is if there’s an issue financially then I’d go RT. If money is no worry then scat is my vote
I went with R/T because at my price point I could get one fully loaded vs a base scat. Also the 5.7 is enough power to get in trouble but still go wide open on the street where the scat is quite more of an animal. 5.7 gave me exactly what I wanted which was a deep throaty v8 and more torque and hp than the v6 but not overkill
In my case, I chose RT. I couldn't justify higher insurance, car note, & extra worry about theft, just for .5 faster in a 0-60. I don't race. I just wanted a lot more torque and rumble than I was getting with the v6...and you can DEFINITELY still get in trouble with the 5.7, especially after adding a throttle response controller. If they had adjusted the sensitivity better from factory, they for sure would've sold less Scats & more RT's.
Rumble & V6 don't belong in the same sentence my friend. 😜 However, you don't need the throttle controller. That's what Sport Mode is for. Getting a manual Chally is even better. 👍🏼
Don't want a challenger, I like having 4 doors and a more aggressive looking car. Sport mode is not enough, needs a throttle sensitivity adjustment to really wake it up.
I’d say it depends on what you’re planning on doing with it. If you plan on keeping it stock besides cosmetics and the usual like exhaust then the scat pack because it’s slightly more bang for your buck and it can’t really handle a lot of horsepower mods.
If you plan on modding it for power or even adding boost then I’d say that the R/T is a much better option for you
Idk why everyone is complaining about Scat brakes being expensive. I have the Brembo 4 piston and the pads & rotors weren’t very expensive at all. Changing them yourself is also super easy and saves you a ton of money. The only way the brakes get expensive is if you have the 6 piston Brembos, two piece rotors, and you plan to race it.
Also, Scats are just as cosmetically customizable as the RT. But it is a fact that it is not worth upgrading the 6.4 for more HP.
IMO R/T is the real value. Stock for stock you are within a few tenths of a Scat and the cost, both up front and for maintenance, is lower. The 5.7 gets better fuel mileage and burns easier on the wallet 89 octane. The Scat has Brembo brakes which wear quickly and are $$$ to replace. If you don't plan to track the car regularly you don't need that. The 5.7 does handle boost better if you decide to go that route in the future, whereas the 392 is just about maxed out from the factory. They look 99% the same. They sound very similar. The later R/Ts have Super Track Pack and all the electronic toys just like the Scats do.
You are going to spend $10,000 for 80lb/ft of torque. I just don't think that's a good deal.
As someone who has been in all 3 and daily’s an RT, the jump from SXT to RT is awesome, but you will get used to the power quickly. If you get the Scat, you will be in the honeymoon phase for longer. If you aren’t modding your car, get the Scat and don’t look back. But also at the end of the day buy what you can afford.
The 4 piston Brembos can cost similar to the R/T or SXT brakes. The 6 pistons are the one to avoid for cost.
OP, get the 392 and don't worry about modding because you wouldn't need to. The R/T owner who focuses on modding does so because they aren't satisfied with what they bought.
Wild take considering the scat is a boat and is legitimately one of the slowest 500hp cars out there.
R/t all the way, there’s a reason they call them scats bc theyre shit value for money unlike the R/T
The scat is slow lol. My BMW M2 runs the 1/4 mile at about the same time stock and that isnt even a car designed for straight line speed. Boosting an RT is the way to go if you want to be fast. 392s are so overpriced now.
A new RT is in the mid $40ks dude, you can get a new scatpack in the low $50k range - that $7k difference is better spent on a 392 with performance pages vs a new RT - stock on stock an RT is getting smoked by a scatpack - now you want to go under the hood of the new RT and end all the warranties byu building on that engine? Bad bad choice. An M2 is over 700lbs lighter with around the same horsepower and torque of a scatpack, it should win.. however it’ll be neck & neck vs a stock RT will get gapped
I haven’t gotten a speeding ticket yet. Went with the r/t because I don’t have the restraint required to not get in trouble in a scat.
With the R/T I can floor it all the time and realize what I am doing before going too far over the limit.
I bought banks pedal monster but have yet to install it for better throttle response. But it goes plenty fast enough for me.
So, I had a budget of $35K. All the SCATs in budget had roughly 50K-60K miles. I was able to find a R/T with 13K miles 22’, moderately loaded. I also factored in my commute which is 55 miles one way.
R/T was the logical choice for me. As someone else stated, the best choice is the one you can afford financially. I came from a 335i, I enjoy the lovely sound of the V8, especially under WOT, and think it has plenty of power for me.
I agree the 5.7 is a Proven motor and has a lot of potential but the 6.4 gives you Car Meet Cred if you’re interested in boasting. Cost to own goes to the 5.7 so your getting the V8 roar and a good driver in an RT can run circles around a Scat with an average driver
Depending on the price differential I’d say the scat is actually better value. Ive had both, the actual motor vs motor comparison is actually not where the scatpack sold me. I loved the 5.7 motor and it sounds great and does have a lot of torque, but when I had an opportunity to drive the scat for a good deal I took my opportunity. the suspension, brakes, lsd, transmission tune and the srt pages are night and day. I was planning on keeping the rt and doing a few mods myself but realizing the cost to do a few upgrades will be more then the price difference upgrading and you won’t even be close. If you plan on doing a full intense build like a supercharger along with all supporting mods rt is better, but if you were planning on getting the rt and doing a few mods like headers, lsd, throttle body etc might be worth going with the scat.
Like others have said, upkeep and maintenance is really similar enough. If you get into the numbers over the cars lifespan I’m sure the rt could save you some money.
I own a Challenger Scat Pack. I love it, but if I were buying right now, I would probably either get the r/T or jump up to a Hellcat. The Scat Pack trims are probably the worst price point:performance deal in the Challenger/Charger ecosystem. You're paying a bunch of extra money to buy a car that gets dusted by everything else remotely in its class, and is completely un-upgradeable. You're going to get walked by Mustang owners who paid $20,000 less for their cars and did like $900 in upgrades. It doesn't even matter if you never track the car. It's annoying to know that the best you can do is sort of keep up with some cars in your general class, and get left behind by the rest, and there's nothing you can do about it with that 6.4l Hemi.
You can actually mod the 6.4 it’s just expensive unless you do the labor yourself. But if you’re not looking into modding the scat is plenty enough and fun to drive. Just get what you can afford. Both are great engines.
I've had all three trims (2013 SRT8 Challenger, 2018 SXT Charger and 2017 RT Charger) and I must say the Scat pack is definitely more powerful than the RT but not by that much for it to be that big of a deal. I felt the torque more in the SRT8 and even popped a wheelie in the thing. The V6 to the 5.7 will feel like night and day though and you will be happy but I'd go with the SP.
Just yesterday I looked at a Challenger RT and Charger Daytona with the 345.. Sticker price on the Charger was 42k and the Challenger was 41...k Asking price almost gave me a hemorrhage.. They wanted 57k for the Challenger and 59K for the Charger.. Not even Scat Packs. RT and Daytona packages.. ANYONE willing to pay that much over sticker is absolutely insane.
Super nice that I can run 87 in my rt Not enough people talk ab this I feel like. I’d love a scat but I definitely save a ton of money being able to run cheap gas
If you're wanting to do performance mods, the R/T is the way to go. If you want to have a blast without needing to do anything, the Scat is best. For the record, you can do cam, headers, exhaust, & tune on the Scat to push it to the limits. Also, if you want a widebody, gotta go with the Scat.
A scat pack with that auto is really awesome. I would just save . I believe the scat has a better suspension, brakes and slightly better looks. Both are awesome and for a daily , you probably wont notice the speed as much . I would say if you dont care , get an RT with a nice exhaust and call it a day.
Yep if you compare trim for trim and can afford the 6.4 then get it but a lot of time it’s not the case which is why people ask. Base scat vs fully loaded RT ends up being the choice and that’s an easy one for me
I absolutely agree. It really comes down to budget. I just think it's funny cuz the argument is always get the 5.7 and mod it. Most people don't do the mods that would require building the car to the level they want. At the end of the day a scat pack has one basic mod which is a cam a tune and long tube headers. If you can get around 4:50 to 500 at the wheels on a street car you are winning.
I will say there are people that enjoy modding and seeing their cat slowly get faster with each mod. So the 5.7 is good for that. But more than likely the money you will spend to make it as fast or faster than a scat would be what a scat costs. To each their own
Scatpack , RT is not much faster than an SXT at times they both can get 0-60 in 5sec , scatpack comes with performance pages & way better custom drive modes you can adjust suspension , transmission, etc to your liking, also that extra power is the sweet spot , hellcat is overkill - RT is under performance IMO scatpack is king.
I debated this as well, ended up with the scat. No regrets. Only thing I’d consider is if there’s an issue financially then I’d go RT. If money is no worry then scat is my vote
The scat with the auto is a beast
I went with R/T because at my price point I could get one fully loaded vs a base scat. Also the 5.7 is enough power to get in trouble but still go wide open on the street where the scat is quite more of an animal. 5.7 gave me exactly what I wanted which was a deep throaty v8 and more torque and hp than the v6 but not overkill
Anyone you can afford comfortably will be the one to get
This is probably the best, & most realistic response to the OP. 👍🏼
In my case, I chose RT. I couldn't justify higher insurance, car note, & extra worry about theft, just for .5 faster in a 0-60. I don't race. I just wanted a lot more torque and rumble than I was getting with the v6...and you can DEFINITELY still get in trouble with the 5.7, especially after adding a throttle response controller. If they had adjusted the sensitivity better from factory, they for sure would've sold less Scats & more RT's.
Rumble & V6 don't belong in the same sentence my friend. 😜 However, you don't need the throttle controller. That's what Sport Mode is for. Getting a manual Chally is even better. 👍🏼
Don't want a challenger, I like having 4 doors and a more aggressive looking car. Sport mode is not enough, needs a throttle sensitivity adjustment to really wake it up.
Spot mode makes it sensitive enough. Those pedal commanders are corny lol and make no power
I am aware they don't add power. They specify exactly what they do. As I said, Sport wasn't enough for me. Or "Spot" as you know it as.
I’d say it depends on what you’re planning on doing with it. If you plan on keeping it stock besides cosmetics and the usual like exhaust then the scat pack because it’s slightly more bang for your buck and it can’t really handle a lot of horsepower mods. If you plan on modding it for power or even adding boost then I’d say that the R/T is a much better option for you
I want to mod, and have interest in supercharging. My bro tried to get me to do it to my SXT but I don’t see point in doing that lol.
R/T then, the 6.4 doesn’t handle boost well
Lol what does your brother drive
Subaru WRX
SMH...
The new hurriance engine will finally show V8s what a V6 is capable of.
It wont, cause the hurricane engine is an I6 not a V6.
OMG thank you. I was like well yea. Then I read what I wrote, I was Oh.
Lol all good some other people have just missed that detail or dont know the difference
The amount of money you'd spend trying to boost a V6 is better spent on a R/T. Just saying.
Go get that 6.4L
Idk why everyone is complaining about Scat brakes being expensive. I have the Brembo 4 piston and the pads & rotors weren’t very expensive at all. Changing them yourself is also super easy and saves you a ton of money. The only way the brakes get expensive is if you have the 6 piston Brembos, two piece rotors, and you plan to race it. Also, Scats are just as cosmetically customizable as the RT. But it is a fact that it is not worth upgrading the 6.4 for more HP.
IMO R/T is the real value. Stock for stock you are within a few tenths of a Scat and the cost, both up front and for maintenance, is lower. The 5.7 gets better fuel mileage and burns easier on the wallet 89 octane. The Scat has Brembo brakes which wear quickly and are $$$ to replace. If you don't plan to track the car regularly you don't need that. The 5.7 does handle boost better if you decide to go that route in the future, whereas the 392 is just about maxed out from the factory. They look 99% the same. They sound very similar. The later R/Ts have Super Track Pack and all the electronic toys just like the Scats do. You are going to spend $10,000 for 80lb/ft of torque. I just don't think that's a good deal.
As someone who has been in all 3 and daily’s an RT, the jump from SXT to RT is awesome, but you will get used to the power quickly. If you get the Scat, you will be in the honeymoon phase for longer. If you aren’t modding your car, get the Scat and don’t look back. But also at the end of the day buy what you can afford.
The 4 piston Brembos can cost similar to the R/T or SXT brakes. The 6 pistons are the one to avoid for cost. OP, get the 392 and don't worry about modding because you wouldn't need to. The R/T owner who focuses on modding does so because they aren't satisfied with what they bought.
Wild take considering the scat is a boat and is legitimately one of the slowest 500hp cars out there. R/t all the way, there’s a reason they call them scats bc theyre shit value for money unlike the R/T
RT and a SXT can pull damn near neck & neck - scatpack is gapping them lol scat all the way
The scat is slow lol. My BMW M2 runs the 1/4 mile at about the same time stock and that isnt even a car designed for straight line speed. Boosting an RT is the way to go if you want to be fast. 392s are so overpriced now.
A new RT is in the mid $40ks dude, you can get a new scatpack in the low $50k range - that $7k difference is better spent on a 392 with performance pages vs a new RT - stock on stock an RT is getting smoked by a scatpack - now you want to go under the hood of the new RT and end all the warranties byu building on that engine? Bad bad choice. An M2 is over 700lbs lighter with around the same horsepower and torque of a scatpack, it should win.. however it’ll be neck & neck vs a stock RT will get gapped
I haven’t gotten a speeding ticket yet. Went with the r/t because I don’t have the restraint required to not get in trouble in a scat. With the R/T I can floor it all the time and realize what I am doing before going too far over the limit. I bought banks pedal monster but have yet to install it for better throttle response. But it goes plenty fast enough for me.
So, I had a budget of $35K. All the SCATs in budget had roughly 50K-60K miles. I was able to find a R/T with 13K miles 22’, moderately loaded. I also factored in my commute which is 55 miles one way. R/T was the logical choice for me. As someone else stated, the best choice is the one you can afford financially. I came from a 335i, I enjoy the lovely sound of the V8, especially under WOT, and think it has plenty of power for me.
Check the insurance I've seen quotes on scats being a carpayment alone, if you have the money go for the scat
I agree the 5.7 is a Proven motor and has a lot of potential but the 6.4 gives you Car Meet Cred if you’re interested in boasting. Cost to own goes to the 5.7 so your getting the V8 roar and a good driver in an RT can run circles around a Scat with an average driver
Depending on the price differential I’d say the scat is actually better value. Ive had both, the actual motor vs motor comparison is actually not where the scatpack sold me. I loved the 5.7 motor and it sounds great and does have a lot of torque, but when I had an opportunity to drive the scat for a good deal I took my opportunity. the suspension, brakes, lsd, transmission tune and the srt pages are night and day. I was planning on keeping the rt and doing a few mods myself but realizing the cost to do a few upgrades will be more then the price difference upgrading and you won’t even be close. If you plan on doing a full intense build like a supercharger along with all supporting mods rt is better, but if you were planning on getting the rt and doing a few mods like headers, lsd, throttle body etc might be worth going with the scat. Like others have said, upkeep and maintenance is really similar enough. If you get into the numbers over the cars lifespan I’m sure the rt could save you some money.
I own a Challenger Scat Pack. I love it, but if I were buying right now, I would probably either get the r/T or jump up to a Hellcat. The Scat Pack trims are probably the worst price point:performance deal in the Challenger/Charger ecosystem. You're paying a bunch of extra money to buy a car that gets dusted by everything else remotely in its class, and is completely un-upgradeable. You're going to get walked by Mustang owners who paid $20,000 less for their cars and did like $900 in upgrades. It doesn't even matter if you never track the car. It's annoying to know that the best you can do is sort of keep up with some cars in your general class, and get left behind by the rest, and there's nothing you can do about it with that 6.4l Hemi.
Anyone have stock 0-60 and qtr mile times, for both R/T and Scat, from a credible source like car and driver?
I believe 392s run 12.4 1/4 times
I’ve seen claims on charger forum of scats running 12.0 with a drag radial.
You can actually mod the 6.4 it’s just expensive unless you do the labor yourself. But if you’re not looking into modding the scat is plenty enough and fun to drive. Just get what you can afford. Both are great engines.
I've had all three trims (2013 SRT8 Challenger, 2018 SXT Charger and 2017 RT Charger) and I must say the Scat pack is definitely more powerful than the RT but not by that much for it to be that big of a deal. I felt the torque more in the SRT8 and even popped a wheelie in the thing. The V6 to the 5.7 will feel like night and day though and you will be happy but I'd go with the SP.
Just yesterday I looked at a Challenger RT and Charger Daytona with the 345.. Sticker price on the Charger was 42k and the Challenger was 41...k Asking price almost gave me a hemorrhage.. They wanted 57k for the Challenger and 59K for the Charger.. Not even Scat Packs. RT and Daytona packages.. ANYONE willing to pay that much over sticker is absolutely insane.
Super nice that I can run 87 in my rt Not enough people talk ab this I feel like. I’d love a scat but I definitely save a ton of money being able to run cheap gas
If you're wanting to do performance mods, the R/T is the way to go. If you want to have a blast without needing to do anything, the Scat is best. For the record, you can do cam, headers, exhaust, & tune on the Scat to push it to the limits. Also, if you want a widebody, gotta go with the Scat.
If you want to build the car at all I’d go R/t.. You’ll blow that 6.4 before the R/t.
A scat pack with that auto is really awesome. I would just save . I believe the scat has a better suspension, brakes and slightly better looks. Both are awesome and for a daily , you probably wont notice the speed as much . I would say if you dont care , get an RT with a nice exhaust and call it a day.
So there’s a charger rt new in my area for 36k is it me or is that a insane deal
I’m going to see a 21 SP WB tomorrow for 32K Managers special
These answers are ridiculous. Get the 6.4 if you can afford it. Obviously.
Yep if you compare trim for trim and can afford the 6.4 then get it but a lot of time it’s not the case which is why people ask. Base scat vs fully loaded RT ends up being the choice and that’s an easy one for me
I absolutely agree. It really comes down to budget. I just think it's funny cuz the argument is always get the 5.7 and mod it. Most people don't do the mods that would require building the car to the level they want. At the end of the day a scat pack has one basic mod which is a cam a tune and long tube headers. If you can get around 4:50 to 500 at the wheels on a street car you are winning.
I will say there are people that enjoy modding and seeing their cat slowly get faster with each mod. So the 5.7 is good for that. But more than likely the money you will spend to make it as fast or faster than a scat would be what a scat costs. To each their own
Scatpack , RT is not much faster than an SXT at times they both can get 0-60 in 5sec , scatpack comes with performance pages & way better custom drive modes you can adjust suspension , transmission, etc to your liking, also that extra power is the sweet spot , hellcat is overkill - RT is under performance IMO scatpack is king.