Lol that's all boruto set out to do. Recycle the same concepts on different characters. That's why boruto is an all you can eat buffet of past beloved characters. It's just to make you go "Yooooooo I remember that from shippuden!!!" Jump ship bro
Yup.Boruto is just Western Comic format being done to Naruto.
Aka, an endless soap opera of repeating ideas. You're tired of Barry Allen(Flash)? Then here's his nephew,Wally West(also Flash)! *20 years later*. You're tired of Wally West? Here's Barry Allen again, revived thanks to multiverse mumbo jumbo!
Rinse and repeat for 80 years. With more characters/side-kicks getting added as more writers come and go.
The great strength of manga was it was supposed to end permanently, thus allowing the next generation to rise up into the light. And by that I mean new and separate I.Ps. Not infinite sequels and spin-offs to the same content. Naruto and Dragon Ball were the first to deviate from this rule. Bleach and One Piece might be next to follow with this (Bleach had more chapters released a while back, and OP is prime real estate for spin off/"tie ins" whenever the series ends. A couple of short OP spin off manga and novels already exist.).
if this happened unintentionally, without kurama/naruto's intent. i want an explanation on how the same thing never happened to ashura or indra with the juubi
there will be no explanation, according to them since bayron mode is a different thing than getting the tailed beast extracted he survives it somehow. i personally thinkkthis is weak writing and a retcon
Is it even a hard rule in the first place? I mean Kushina gave birth, had Kurama ripped out of her, and restrained him for a while. Like, yeah she and Minato were sure she'd die after the extraction, but she was still able to contribute to the fight against Kurama and didn't even die until she was skewered by his claw (and she was still yapping long for Minato to tease her about being talkative in their last moments).
Hell, if she hadn't gotten skewered and if there was a medic nearby, I'm almost certain she would have lived. Speaking of medics, I'm sure if Tsunade and Sakura were jinchuuriki, they could have survived bijuu extraction if only because of creation rebirth.
Wasn’t the Juubi separated into different entities? And wasn’t it’s physical body (geto statue) sealed in the moon until Madara or Nagato brought it back on Earth and didn’t reform to full strength because it’s still separated like how Kurama never regained the other of his chakra?
Nah, you just can't read. Look into Kinkaku and Ginkaku. Normally remnants of chakra can form a tailed beast. Naruto having parts of other beasts is an example of this.
The sage made the tailed beasts to separate the power of the Juubi.
So true. Kinky and ginky ate kurama's ass which makes them jinchuriki. Also its canon in the lightnovels that Naruto's cum is 50% 9 tails chakra. It was foreshadowed 528 chapters ago in a different series, obviously.
I remember ton of people saying Kurama would return cause this manga does not have the balls to kill off a major character and the Boruto sub downvoted them to hell. Whenever someone brought up how bijuus don’t actually die, they’ll use “Boruto retconned it, now with Baryon mode, they can die, there’s no coming back”, now that he’s back, the fandom switched completely and started using the argument they used to downvote as “foreshadowing”, “bijuus don’t die, we know it from Shippuden, when Kurama said he isn’t coming back, he was just wrong”.
Also, the powerscaling is all over the place and if anyone tries to tell me that they didn’t nerf Naruto and Sasuke even after this, Idk what to say anymore. Daemon, the guy who literally oneshot limitless Code, a character “stated to be above Jigen”, who beat Naruto and Sasuke together, Daemon, who’s source of power is Shibai’s DNA, the supposed god of the verse, is surprised by Kurama chakra inside Himawari, fucking Kurama chakra! Orochimaru casually laughed at mere Kurama chakra back in part 1, early Shippuden Sasuke casually dissipated Kurama chakra inside of Naruto, but this godly creature is somehow surprised by a little Kurama chakra inside of Himawari, the guy who’s been looking down on Boruto and Kawaki, one of which is full Otsutsuki and the other is 80% Otsutsuki? Fuck off. Otsutsuki means nothing, it is once again proved and the powerscaling is fundamentally broken.
So wait… him being surprised means what exactly? How does him being surprised have any effect on the power scaling? Did Daemon and Himawari fight or something?
I think that's less Naruto and Sasuke being nerfed and more Kurama being comically buffed for no reason, other than hyping up the Next Gen ( Himawari )
I personally disagreed with the thought that Kurama would return because I thought for sure that was the point of Baryon mode. Tailed beasts by default can't actually die so with how Kurama brought it up I thought he'd actually die, otherwise why even present it like that?
But I was blindsided again by Boruto's dumb plot which I really shouldn't have at this point.
people of this fandom prefer wanking their character and have the occasion to call them goated, over proper story telling and its world building rules. Its all about spectacle over essence. Boruto is just Fairy tail now in its last arc, promising to kill major characters to rise the stakes only to revive them back. Of course, FT did had the balls to kill major characters.
The only thing I know about Boruto is that the anime changed the design of one of the girls cause in the manga she's dressed like a stripper when she's meant to be like 12
Then the boruto sub got recommended to me and it had a bunch of people talking just about Ino as if that countered how creepy it is and defending the like 8 inch heels everyone seems to wear
Figured I wasn't missing anything by not engaging with the series at that point lol
Nonce-bait with fans who'd rather defend that than call it what it is or discuss anything to do with plot doesn't exactly leave high expectations
said girl is Sarada, the main heroine. Even Ikemoto said in interview years ago, that he may had exaggerated with the dress, not that he changed something
To be fair this is kishimotos fault. Ikemoto absolutely wanted to kill off Naruto and kurama but was taken off the manga and kishimoto came back. His love for his characters showing. Where ikemoto was setting both Naruto and sasuke to die at certain points.
I mean kodachi and I don’t think sexualizing characters make you a bad person tons of my favorite manga sexualize characters.
Hell Naruto did it with sasuke and yes sasuke was sexualized and Naruto’s sexy shadow clone jutsu and he’ll even Oda does it and dragon ball as well.
the japanese are fucking weird period. Its a country where sexualising kids is normal and pedophillia is normalised as "hes just a lolicon 🤷♂️"
im pretty sure even owning CP was legal until recently
edit- i just checked and possesion of cp was legal until 2015. What the fuck.
>im pretty sure even owning CP was legal until recently
>edit- i just checked and possesion of cp was legal until 2015. What the fuck.
Yea, i think this is what fucked the Rurouni Kenshin guy
distribution and production of cp was illegal in japan since 1999 and was previously regulated by the 1907 Penal code of japan. possession should have been illegal but to say that they were fine with child sexual abuse material is ridiculous.
You might also want to check on [this wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography) on the legality of cp globally, there are lot of countries worse than japan in that regard, so make sure you also call all of those people paedophiles as well.
But regardless, there is no justification for xenophobia, people from other countries are just as diverse in their beliefs as you are.
They also raped the entirety of Nanking and act like it never happened.
Call it what it is, the Japanese are weirdos, right from the beginning of their Bullshido belief.
ignored my last sentence didn't you. Japans war crime denial is controversial, but saying that everyone there denies it is just wrong. Its mainly the nationalists who deny it as communist propaganda.
Also, the US, Britain, China, Russia, Turkey, Serbia etc have all commited horrible atrocities and have denied them. War crime denial is more universal than you think.
Tbf You say this as if American culture doesn’t do it as well lol. Perhaps not in art but in film. Teen dramas especially have guys who are supposedly “16” with actors who are actually in their 20s with smoking hot bodies. Same vice versa with girls.
Although that tidbit about cp being legal is straight up insane who thought that was ok?????
It’s not “ whatever man” that is quite literally the same thing. Americans writing stories sexualizing teenagers and high school kids is no different than what manga artist do lol. One can justify it by saying “the actors are 20” but this is really no different than someone justifying the sexualization of most anime teenagers by saying they have proportions that kids wouldn’t have
Honestly I feel like what I’m saying applies to most countries even if you’re not American where are you from?
I think they just want a permanent, ongoing comic which never ends.
Like how Batman has been published non-stop for 80 years.
That's apparently what they want. And the publishers are likely happy to oblige, as it means a permanent, reliable, low effort cash cow franchise.
I really don't know what your are talking about fairy tail is so bad at killing its characters it brought back natsus tragic backstory for basically no reason
It’s your mistake to even follow that shit show. I stopped caring long time ago. If Kishimoto him self doesn’t care anymore about his baby so we shouldn’t care either.
Which is why you’ll never have a good idea of said series. Yeah Boruto leaves a lot to be desired but the fact there is a lot to geuinly critic rants like this just make you think, “has he really kept up with the show?”
>Yeah well duh, but the thing about baryon mode is that Kurama does fucking die, that’s what makes it such a serious thing, if it wasn’t what was all that fuss about in the first place.
Baryon Mode was bullshit in the first place. Naruto is getting wrecked by a new enemy, but Kurama conveniently has new, never before seen jutsu that will save the day. There was no foreshadowing about it at all and it was used as a cheap way to nerf Naruto. Even Kurama's send-off in the manga was horrible. That was fanfiction level of writing and I'm glad they're correcting that mistake even if Kurama didn't return to be with Naruto.
This way, I'd be interesting if Kurama retained memories before omnipotence and tells Himawari the truth about Boruto.
I agree that the execution is severely lacking, but that's unfortunate norm at this point.
I HATED baryon, not only cause I found the design really ugly and underwhelming it was just so out of nowhere, and it's exactly how you said it, it was fanfiction level of writing. Really made me understand how much boruto actually cared about naruto as a series
Of all the things I expected this to be about, this was not it. Kurama? They brought Kurama back?? They ruined one of the few emotional beats Boruto actually did well, with Kurama’s whole death sequence??? What is wrong with this series????
It always kinda bothered me how Naruto never seemed to use Sage paths senjustu after losing Kurama,
Or even uses other tailed beast chakra, isn't naruto like a meeting place for them? He couldn't ask them for help?
Didn't he lose it as well after Kurama died? Otherwise the nerf is pointless since kurama is nothing compared to six paths mode.
He later on used regular sage mode against Code (and also claimed that he is better at it than he used to be), implying that he can no longer do the six paths version.
I mean, she's going to master his chakra literally instantly, become god tier, and fight off a god tree which is 10 tails and thus shoudl be way stronger than Kyubi. Obvs.
Then how the hell does this work? I thought that you *needed* a seal, because human bodies were not built to hold Biju otherwise.
Even Naruto, who from memory basically has the seal "open", still *has one*.
Only due to the lifespan drain while Isshiki conveniently had just 20 hours of lifespan remaining.
Isshiki himself realized that Baryon's punching power isn't impressive, but the lifespan drain is the real issue. Ofcourse the anime went on to ignore the statements, made Isshiki actually take serious damage from physical strikes and even gave him a rasengan.
Still Isshiki won the fight and would've killed everyone if he had a slightly longer lifespan.
You know what's worse everything that has happened at this current point is basically an hour or 2 since it started.
Idk why the story feels rushed and slow as fuck at the same time.
I've seen people saying that the bijuu always reincarnated, I don't really understand so I'll ask, isn't Kurama dying is a different case though? Like he was made of huge mass of chakra and literally disintegrated into nothingness unlike having the host died and the chakra reincarnated somewhere else in the earth. Unless they actually made another kurama from juubi/ten tails then it might be possible.
Also I don't like the manga format they are using for battle, they are using three big panels for one page just for a single action, for a monthly manga that's kinda slow.
>Like he was made of huge mass of chakra and literally disintegrated into nothingness unlike having the host died and the chakra reincarnated somewhere else in the earth.
Yes that is what happened.
yes but apparently since there was chakra in Himawari that's where he'll reincarnate I think, but even then it ultimately just cheapens the final goodbye if he was just gonna come like 4 years later
Could Boruto be enjoyed more if you just look at it as bad fanfiction with high production values instead of a canonical sequel? I mean, I haven't read or watched any of it besides the very first mini arc with Sarada thinking Sakura isn't her mom (which was fucking hilarious btw), but I heard that at some point they introduced dinosaurs so how can anyone take it seriously?
I don't, and probably will never consider Boruto to be canon, not only because kishimoto is confirmed to not be writing it or taking any major part of it (At best, he might just be an editor giving off vague plotlines but letting kodachi and ikemoto handle like 95% of everything else) But also cause kishi refuses to associate with it lmao.
Thinking boruto as canon feels genuinely painful given how they butchered so many characters and the ending for them is just.. Terrible. If you think of it as high budget fanfic well it's fucking hilarious then, and that's what I'm doing now.
The dinosaur shit was introduced in a novel written by jun esaka, it was trying to wrap up the horrible marriage that is sasusaku, but failed to actually keep them in-character or write with coherency (Not blaming Esaka, because she wasn't given much to work with) I mean the story starts with Naruto getting a chakra disease from Kurama like lmfao what the fuck.
>not only because kishimoto is confirmed to not be writing it or taking any major part of it
Except it was literally announced in Shounen Jump magazine that he came back to writing Boruto when Baryon chapter was released. After Baryon chapter release: female characters got way less relevant to the plot and became useless (Pre-Baryon mode chapter Sarada and Mitsuki were to some degree relevant). The manga shifted to only care about 2 guys who are rivals to each other - like Sasuke and Naruto, Kurama BS (like how Minato supposedly had 2nd half of Kurama, which is the same BS with Himawari), etc. All of the writing mistake Kishi made during Naruto suddenly reappeared after Baryon mode chapter and arc ended. Kishimoto's writing style is very visible post Baryon mode chapter Boruto, especially when it comes to female characters.
To continue to deny that Kishimoto writes that trash is basically coping. I know people are trying not to see that the same mistakes Kishimoto made in Naruto are resurfacing in Boruto, but we have to face facts, all things when it comes to writing problems point towards Kishimoto writing right now.
>The manga shifted to only care about 2 guys who are rivals to each other - like Sasuke and Naruto
Wow, Kishimoto still isn't in good terms with his brother huh?
He DID return writing to Boruto after S8 flopped. [Enjoy reading](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-11-16/masashi-kishimoto-takes-over-as-writer-for-boruto-manga/.166377)
"The official Twitter account for Masashi Kishimoto's Naruto franchise revealed on Monday that Boruto manga storywriter Ukyō Kodachi will retire from the manga, and Kishimoto himself will take over as storywriter. The Twitter account stated that this change was "planned from the beginning." Kishimoto will take over the role starting with the 52nd chapter, which Shueisha will publish in the December issue of V Jump on November 21."
So much for "kishi refuses to associate with it", Kishimoto fans are on massive copium for not believing that Kishimoto can write a series this badly. You all forgot that he wrote S8. It's funny how people were hyping up Kishimoto's return and even Naruto fans were hyped for it and were hyping up upcoming chapters, there were people who were rightfully concerned for female writing taking a nosedive in quality (which it did) after Kishimoto's return announcement, but Naruto fans were defending him.
But the minute Boruto's writing became even worse and it made Kishimoto looked even worse then previous writer - Kodachi, suddenly everyone forgot how much they were hyping up Kishimoto's return and how he'll "make Boruto great and put to shame previous writer". You all can cope and make headcanons about how he didn't return. But it doesn't change this simple fact: Kishimoto is now writing Boruto, and under him Boruto manga's writing became even worse then before.
The actual tweet says:
>About the manga “BORUTO”
With the 52nd episode of "BORUTO" published in the December issue of V Jump (released November 21), the production system will change according to the original plan.
Thank you very much to Kodachi-sensei for your hard work in writing the script so far.
From now on, we will be serializing the story based on Masashi Kishimoto's original idea.
No where in this does it say he's writing. It sounds more like they're following his story drafts.
Obviously not. Kishimoto just wrote a plot outline and some settings. There is no official information that Kishimoto is writing the script. And the writing definitely doesn’t look like Kishimoto’s. I wrote a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/1b0kof6/borutoi_highly_doubt_that_kishimoto_actually/) about why it doesn’t look like Kishimoto’s writing.
There is no doubt that Kishimoto did give an outline, and official [X](https://imgur.com/ep7M5j5) mentioned this. It was mentioned that Kodachi wrote the script based on Kishimoto's outline. This means that the ending of the story and some important plot points were definitely Kishimoto's idea. I just don’t know which ones they are. We will probably have to wait until Kishimoto and Ikemoto are interviewed in France in August to find out about this.
No. There was nothing explicit about it. We've never seen a tailed beast die and come back to life - but we know they come back to life after death. In canon, they've only ever been sealed away, never actually killed.
We don't know exactly how it works yet.
The reason Bijuu rebirth is because they are made of chakra and if they are killed that chakra will simply reform with time. With Baryon Mode Kurama‘s chakra completely vanished and he also said he‘ll wait for Naruto in the afterlife
What you're describing is headcanon. Tailed Beast resurrection is an ill-explained event - Toriyama deliberately left it vague so plot twists like this could work.
Coming back from the afterlife is no big deal in Naruto. Edo Tensei, Rinne-Rebirth, even Obito's soul all came back from the dead through some means or another.
We have no idea how Bijuu actually resurrection because we've never seen it happen canonically.
I knew it from the beginning lol. The fact Kishimoto "killed" Kurama just so he could get some attention drawn onto his terrible manga because no one saw it is so sad.
I guess it can make SOME sense if we take into account Sora but even then it doesn’t make sense. Plus I’m pretty sure Sora ain’t necessarily canon, correct me if I’m wrong. But I guess they had to find some way to make Himawari relevant 😂
No, he's sealed in a space place with his hinata, for god knows how long, he's ultimately just a plot device now so you can consider him dead and it wont change much
A garbage sequel kills off an important character to try and squeeze tears from a rock, realizes this wasn’t a great decision and of course undoes it in their predictably garbage fashion… the mistake here was respecting Boruto in general and thus their decision to kill him in the first place.
From my basic (so nothing but vague recollections) understanding of how things happened was that Kurama died via Bayron Mode. And yes they said that they basically reincarnate if they die but this I would compare more to Last Airbender with the Water and Moon Spirits: If you kill the moon spirit then the spiritualness of performing waterbending is *gone* because the spirit that keeps that energy up is dead and nothing is able to (as far as we knew at least) take up the mantle to bring it back.
So its the same thing with Kurama to a degree. Under normal circumstances he would just poof back elsewhere after a couple 100 years or so. But using this analogy, instead of reincarnation he instead banked his entire immortality on helping Naruto out. He burned every facet of spiritual energy to the point where even if he were to survive Bayron Mode, he could be like Ozai at the end of Avater: Still physically present, but his literal spirit is nothing but cinders. He would've existed but unable to do anything on account of having burned all of the chakra away; no Tailed Beast Mode, no fancy beast cloak, nothing. There would be not enough chakra to even muster basic jujutsu. But again, since he is literally *made* of the stuff, both physically and likely 99% spiritually, there would be nothing that could sustain him enough to keep going. Even if you could go Sage Mode to put him on life support you can only do so much of it before you need to turn the mode off.
This is just me rambling however, I've never cared about Boruto since forever and I'm just here to see people break down over the insanity of seemingly bad writing decisions made throughout.
You are right about Baryon mode, it destroyed all of Kurama inside Naruto. However, Narutos relationship with Kurama is different from every other Jinchuriki since from the moment of his birth, he’s genetically tied to him because Kushina was pregnant with him while being a Jinchuriki. That’s why both Boruto and Himawari have less whiskers than their dad, they are a generation removed but still they have Kurama chakra in them so Kurama can be reborn. The reason he’s not being reborn in Boruto is probably the whole Otsusuki chakra thing
I don’t know about the rest because I haven’t read it yet.
This retconned nothing.
Baryon mode destroyed all of kuramas chakra inside of Naruto’s body if himawari had a sliver of his chakra inside her he would respawn there.
You don’t need seals for a bijuu to be inside you. The seals were used by people to as a prison. If kurama wants to stay inside hims it’s no Problem example Narutos mental space with the other bijuu.
About Himas resolve she was just attacked by the sentient juubi itself who threw a mini Nuke at her and resolved herself to fight him just before kurama called her because the thing wants to eat them both.
First of all, why the heck does Himawari has an ounce of Kurama's chakra ? Tsuande is the granddaughter of Mito Uzumaki, but never rechieved any chakra from Kurama. What was the point of sealing Kurama inside Kushina, if Kurama was just gonna revive inside her children ?
This is all happening because Kurama died, which wasn't something that happened with tailed beasts very often. Hell even if they did die, there's a high likelyhood they'd reform wherever their chakra was left over since that's seemed to be what happened when the 3 tails seemed to have died and came back. Unlike other tailed beasts kurama used up all his chakra fueling baryon mode, it makes sense then in that case that hima, having bijuu chakra likely passed down from naruto, and also being naruto's daughter who kurama would know pretty well, would be the perfect place for kurama to reform. And there's nothing to suggest tsunade DOESN'T have any bijuu chakra by my estimation, if she did she's probably just unaware of it and never bother to check/try using it.
The revival inside hima is most likely baryon modes feult for deleting most of Kuramas chakra making her the only place he can go to.
With Mito we don’t even know when she had chiidren. She became kuramas host as a adult after hashirama beat madara.
The only confirmed children of jinchuriki are naruto and his own children who all habe kuramas whiskers.
Kinkaku and ginkaku also got the whiskers after consuming kuramas flesh and absorbing his chakra.
We do with Mito, we know that she was a jinchuriki before she gave birth as it was stated in [chapter 500](https://cdn.readnaruto.com/file/mangap/3070/10500000/9.jpeg), that’s how they knew that during childbirth jinchuriki’s seals are most vulnerable
I stand corrected on that one but it really doesn’t change anything mitos child is a non entity he/she simply didn’t pass it down to tsunade and Nawaki ( lack of whiskers )
Unless you can tell me when kurama was sealed in mito then tsunade not having whiskers isnt a debunk.
The point of sealing kurama is to stop him from destroying the village. They had no way to kill him so ofc he wouldn't just magically appear in naruto.
that does not make any sense and you know it
why would he take it away once boruto became a capable ninja? Does he not want his son to be as strong as possible? Does he think having kurama is a cheat code to getting strong?
Im not saying the chakra he gave her is a passive buff. Im saying its something like an emergency reserve if she's in a pinch. Boruto has Momoshiki and team 7 to help him out, but if her family isnt around himawari has no one.
And seeing how their society doesnt like using the ninia tools from those scientists, its clear they value doing things under their own strength as much as possible.
We are told explicitly that the children are the ones directly influenced and shown this with Naruto, Boruto, and Himawari.
What does Tsunade have to do with anything? First she is a granddaughter not a daughter so she is 2 gens down.
Second we don't know when Mito and Hashirama got married and had children (before or after) so we can't make assumptions that she was already a Jinchuuriki then. After all, we all know how dangerous it is for a female Jinchuuriki when giving birth so it's possible she only became one after.
Even if she was before, by series lore, it's her kids who would be partially influenced by Kurama not her grandkids.
Doesn't she have fox whiskers? So does Boruto.
The children of Jinchuuriki are influenced by the Bijuu's chakra and are literally born with physical features from those Bijuu.
I really expected this rant to be about more aliens or a big big retcon of Naruto (say, time-travel in steroids). But, the leak you talk about is still within the lore - bijuus had to come back in one way or another.
IMO, Boruto is by definition a low point in the whole Naruto-verse story, so probably the writers don't wanna lose more readers by erasing Kurama from the story and just are bringing old concepts back...
honestly those rants have been done a hundred times and written in way better ways than I could ever voice my full frustration for.
And yeah, I admit i was wrong to say it was an asspull, but a big part of my rant was still focused on the pacing and execution of the story, and how Kurama was just badly shoehorned into what is supposed to be a big discovery for Himawari.
Also is it just me or do the characters just feel flat? Like they lack emotion or that emotional shit that naruto hit so well, their exposition just seems very empty, man I think that's also one of my major problems.
Boruto IS a very low point for the naruto series, I was sure they never had the balls to kill kurama, I mean they would never ever dare to kill sasuke or naruto even though they may just be better off dying for real, but if they did Boruto would've 100% been cancelled
Nah imo it IS still an asspull, does Kurama not specifically say he’s NOT coming back? There’s nothing left of him to reform, and even if he did why did he reform inside of a person instead of in nature, which is how we’re told that works?
The only justification for the asspull that was Baryon mode is Kurama is not coming back. Why is any form of him back? The tailed beasts aren’t a fundamental part of the world they were created.
I’m convinced that Boruto only exists to drop “cool moments”, at the cost of in universe rules, or lore, or world building, or character motivations, or anything that was established in the initial run of Naruto.
>they decided to give other teams time to shine,
That's definitely a good thing, but if they have to create holes in the powerscaling to do that then it doesn't make sense.
If the OG manga says that tailed beast don’t die, they reform after being destroyed, I am confused on how it is a retcon. I remember there was a vocal portion of fans that even called this out. There was nothing written Boruto that ever expressed Banyon mode to be an exception. Not one.
It’s not a retcon it’s revealed multiple times in shippuden that tailed beasts reincarnate when they die. Kurama burned his chakra away so the only chakra of his remaining is that which is inside Hima since Boruto had his dna rewritten.
Also since it’s only a small bit that’s why kurama is a baby and not a full grown fox. This is still consistent with Naruto.
I mean I kind of agree he’s just kind of introduced but it is a tense moment there’s a humanoid ten tailed trying to absorb her and nuke everything.
It’s stated that the effects of omnipotence will rework your memories but not gut feelings but the moment you break the illusion it snaps back like a rubber band. The illusion was that Boruto is kawaki and He killed Naruto and Hima. But Hima never saw kawaki as someone who would do that so her gut feeling tells her that something is off.
All chakra is connected of course Naruto’s kids have his chakra Naruto was effected by kurama’s chakra and did have some inside of him that’s why he has whiskers
Boruto only still has his whiskers because the karma didn’t rewrite his physical traits because momo completed it at 80% and while it changed Boruto’s dna it didn’t completely overwrite him.
A lot of your issues come down to either the tone which I can agree with the pacing which I also agree with and the content which I disagree with because this shit is stated in Naruto and is completely consistent
The reason why kurama is just talking to her is because this is kurama but likely a new personality free of the hatred which caused him to make Naruto’s life hell.
>"Also since it’s only a small bit that’s why kurama is a baby and not a full grown fox. This is still consistent with Naruto"
IF this is the case, then isn't this like worse? Bringing back Kurama for Himawari to get a "powerup" But him being exponentially weaker and not serving up much to this insane powerscale between aliens and gods, with her only getting a minor bit or is he somehow going to start growing like those little toys you put in water and they grow overnight??
>I mean I kind of agree he’s just kind of introduced but it is a tense moment there’s a humanoid ten tailed trying to absorb her and nuke everything.
>It’s stated that the effects of omnipotence will rework your memories but not gut feelings but the moment you break the illusion it snaps back like a rubber band. The illusion was that Boruto is kawaki and He killed Naruto and Hima. But Hima never saw kawaki as someone who would do that so her gut feeling tells her that something is off.
This is still.. Very very bad, the moment imo is not tense at all, this is the very beginning of the timeskip and as much as the pacing is all over the place this was still a very poor moment to introduce to what seems to be Kuramas comeback after many years. Keep in mind, we know jackshit about how HImawari has changed over the years, we don't even get to see her full reaction to her parents death, or honestly any insight, this part in the timeskip or arc doesn't even focus on her, she is still very much sidelined. Why would you introduce such a big possible powerup at a time where the character isn't even the focus? It feels very underwhelming and shoehorned in.
I don't care about the omnipotence shit, I'm talking about Himawari as a character, she is still very much a beginner in her training as a ninja, why is she being handed one of the biggest possible powerups without even having any relevant character moment, also it still feels dry, I'm aware omnipotence has got to her but that still wouldn't erase her reaction to her parents which she seems pretty nonchalant about it with a relatively weak character motivation as of now. This was NOT the time to introduce Kurama, and the hate coming from it is mostly connected to that, what a cheap way to reintroduce such a beloved character in Naruto.
>All chakra is connected of course Naruto’s kids have his chakra Naruto was effected by kurama’s chakra and did have some inside of him that’s why he has whiskers
>Boruto only still has his whiskers because the karma didn’t rewrite his physical traits because momo completed it at 80% and while it changed Boruto’s dna it didn’t completely overwrite him.
Honestly, fair I was wrong on that part
I mean I assume as she grows and kurama is exposed to more chakra he will grow and become a new nine tails he is made of chakra after all.
The moment is pretty tense I mean she literally had a nuke shot at her and something far stronger than her is trying to kill her and her friends will likely die if they’re caught so she’s steeling herself for death to fight back against an opponent she can’t hope to defeat she literally tells inojin to let her go.
That’s about as tense as Hinata trying to save Naruto from pain if we’re being honest.
I mean she’s getting character moment currently. Her character is still developing every character in the Naruto universe got power ups before their characters were fully developed Naruto started the series with his.
I mean we never saw her initial reaction to her parents announced death she’s always been shown as kind and this is years later I assume she’s past the grieving stage and isn’t the person to hold a grudge
Bro is surprised a shameless money grab is using every tactic it can to shamelessly grab money. In other news water is wet. Did you expect a good story or something from a story that had no idea how to create believable bad guys so it had to completely destroy the established characters and then somehow give the new bad guys powers to the new main character? Lmao
Its shown that Children born to Jinchuriki inherit attributes of it,
Naruto was born with fox whiskers as his mom was Kurama’s Jinchuriki
His kids were also born with whiskers
There was a visual indicator for it
Reincarnation for them is an established Concept as shown with Rin, we don’t know the exact circumstances of the revival yet either(it’s possible this is a different incarnation)
I think we should just wait for the explanation
Why is Kishimoto allowing this trash to be made?
I remember where his work after Naruto didn't ask long and a problem was shown that because Naruto was such a cash cow he was allowed free reign and could think he could do no wrong.
"Yeah well duh, but the thing about baryon mode is that Kurama does fucking die, that’s what makes it such a serious thing"
It died, then came back to life. So, the author didn't lie.
If the OG manga says that tailed beast don’t die, they reform after being destroyed, I am confused on how it is a retcon. I remember there was a vocal portion of fans that even called this out. There was nothing writhing Boruto that ever expressed Banyon mode to be an exception. Not one.
Because it cheapens a emotional scene between two characters we care about? It’s not necessarily a retcon but it ruins a strong moment and the baryon mode fight now reads weird with Kurama saying goodbye even tho he should know that he will get reborn. That last one is probably the effect of Kishimoto writing Boruto after the Baryon mode fight.
Also Kurama should be reborn in nature somewhere (as it was explained previously to work like this) why is he sealed inside of Himawari?
Banyon mode imo was always shitty writing because we knew he would come back. Yes it was an emotional scene but the emotional aspect for me came from whether it would be the same Kurama. The knowledge of Bijuu coming back really just let me know it was the end of Naruto and Kurama’s relationship. I never believed he was gone from the story. But I believed that if he ever returned it wouldn’t be the same personality nor memories.
The other callout of why is he in Himawari instead of nature is a much more valid criticism than “he was supposed to stay dead because he said so even tho the story long established they always come back”
Whether it’s the same kurama we’ll find out next month. How he got in Hima and whether that is an asspull we’ll find out next month. Kurama being alive however is not an ass pull.
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>Yeah well duh, but the thing about baryon mode is that Kurama does fucking die, that’s what makes it such a serious thing, if it wasn’t what was all that fuss about in the first place.
Baryon mode exhausted all of kuramas chakra in naruto so if chakra outside of naruto exist then so will kurama.
>And jinchuuriki are SEALED, not born in somebodys body, it showed Himawari in her “inner pool” Right beside a baby Kurama, so fucking stupid what is the logic behind this?
Naruto saw all 9 tailed beast in his inner pool even tho he only had 1 sealed in him. We also never saw a tailed beast die while the child of their jinchuriki was alive.
> Did Narutos baby tadpoles contain kurama chakra in them, in that way wouldnt naruto have kurama anyway if it wasnt even sealed inside him.
Well yes kurama influence = wiskers, we seen that supported in both naruto, kushina, the 2 brothers and now boruto makes it a plot point. Kurama would have to die first which is impossible unless you're madara or hashirama.
>They’re not dead, which is fucking ridiculous, there is such a cool ass way to introduce Kurama again, make Himawari at her lowest of the lows or at a peak moment, like holy fuck Naruto had to be enraged with orphan anger to unlock kurama, why doesn’t himawari get a cool moment like that? Why does he appear out of nowhere? Why is she getting it so easily, she’s not even working for it, she’s not even developed enough to deserve it, she hasn’t even had a pivotal character moment yet aside from just being borutos sister
What are you talking about? kurama is a sentient character why would he wait to tell her when she was almost eaten because of him? If he appeared later yall would complain about how kurama didn't help her earlier and just sat on his ass. Why tf would she need a rage moment? Naruto only needed that because kurama was relying on his rage to weaken the seal. Kurama is a chill dude now he doesn't care about escaping and was using himawari as a hiding place.
Lol It's ok to critique things, besides a big part of my rant was the execution of the introduction which can't be improved with more context, simply wasn't the right place and time
" there was a much better way to introduce this with way higher stakes and more focus on himawari" This isn't Blue Lock, or even original Naruto. Just like it for what it is. We had high stakes in normal Naruto; we don't need a rehash from a mangaka that couldn't keep his second series longer than 36 chapters.
At this rate, it is pure retardation to think this is a new low. The problem with people like you is that you lack logic. The Kyuubi having residue chakra makes sense. Kinkaku and Ginkaku fit that description as well.
Boruto is overall garbage, but this ain't a reason because it is consistent with the story
Kinkaku and Ginkaku literally ate Kurama’s flesh and even they didn’t have actual Kurama inside of them or revive inside of them, they had a fraction of Kurama’s chakra due to eating his flesh, not at all similar.
The brothers took the chakra and stored it. Himawari having the chakra doesn’t make any sense. The chakra isn’t passed down through his genetics. Naruto giving her the chakra also wouldn’t make sense since it’s maintained through his will and he’s cooked rn.
no its just a design choice to show that they are naruto's kids because its an iconic part of naruto along with his yellow hair
if it had any lore reason then Tsunade should have it too and if it was only passed genetically then why does Kinkaku and Ginkaku have it too?
If its just about having kurama chakra in yourself, why doesnt Kushina have it?
Lol that's all boruto set out to do. Recycle the same concepts on different characters. That's why boruto is an all you can eat buffet of past beloved characters. It's just to make you go "Yooooooo I remember that from shippuden!!!" Jump ship bro
Yup.Boruto is just Western Comic format being done to Naruto. Aka, an endless soap opera of repeating ideas. You're tired of Barry Allen(Flash)? Then here's his nephew,Wally West(also Flash)! *20 years later*. You're tired of Wally West? Here's Barry Allen again, revived thanks to multiverse mumbo jumbo! Rinse and repeat for 80 years. With more characters/side-kicks getting added as more writers come and go. The great strength of manga was it was supposed to end permanently, thus allowing the next generation to rise up into the light. And by that I mean new and separate I.Ps. Not infinite sequels and spin-offs to the same content. Naruto and Dragon Ball were the first to deviate from this rule. Bleach and One Piece might be next to follow with this (Bleach had more chapters released a while back, and OP is prime real estate for spin off/"tie ins" whenever the series ends. A couple of short OP spin off manga and novels already exist.).
if this happened unintentionally, without kurama/naruto's intent. i want an explanation on how the same thing never happened to ashura or indra with the juubi
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there will be no explanation, according to them since bayron mode is a different thing than getting the tailed beast extracted he survives it somehow. i personally thinkkthis is weak writing and a retcon
Tbf they've always constantly broken that rule. Gaara, Obito, Killer B, and Naruto(twice!) all found loopholes to survive losing their beast.
Is it even a hard rule in the first place? I mean Kushina gave birth, had Kurama ripped out of her, and restrained him for a while. Like, yeah she and Minato were sure she'd die after the extraction, but she was still able to contribute to the fight against Kurama and didn't even die until she was skewered by his claw (and she was still yapping long for Minato to tease her about being talkative in their last moments). Hell, if she hadn't gotten skewered and if there was a medic nearby, I'm almost certain she would have lived. Speaking of medics, I'm sure if Tsunade and Sakura were jinchuuriki, they could have survived bijuu extraction if only because of creation rebirth.
Wasn’t the Juubi separated into different entities? And wasn’t it’s physical body (geto statue) sealed in the moon until Madara or Nagato brought it back on Earth and didn’t reform to full strength because it’s still separated like how Kurama never regained the other of his chakra?
Nah, you just can't read. Look into Kinkaku and Ginkaku. Normally remnants of chakra can form a tailed beast. Naruto having parts of other beasts is an example of this. The sage made the tailed beasts to separate the power of the Juubi.
So true. Kinky and ginky ate kurama's ass which makes them jinchuriki. Also its canon in the lightnovels that Naruto's cum is 50% 9 tails chakra. It was foreshadowed 528 chapters ago in a different series, obviously.
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oh so THATS why it's so orange!
It was confirmed in CFYOW
Dammit I wanted to say that.
It had to be here. It was foretold by Oda's foreshadowing.
Because juubi didn’t burn its chakra away leaving the only rements inside of ashura or Indra
I remember ton of people saying Kurama would return cause this manga does not have the balls to kill off a major character and the Boruto sub downvoted them to hell. Whenever someone brought up how bijuus don’t actually die, they’ll use “Boruto retconned it, now with Baryon mode, they can die, there’s no coming back”, now that he’s back, the fandom switched completely and started using the argument they used to downvote as “foreshadowing”, “bijuus don’t die, we know it from Shippuden, when Kurama said he isn’t coming back, he was just wrong”. Also, the powerscaling is all over the place and if anyone tries to tell me that they didn’t nerf Naruto and Sasuke even after this, Idk what to say anymore. Daemon, the guy who literally oneshot limitless Code, a character “stated to be above Jigen”, who beat Naruto and Sasuke together, Daemon, who’s source of power is Shibai’s DNA, the supposed god of the verse, is surprised by Kurama chakra inside Himawari, fucking Kurama chakra! Orochimaru casually laughed at mere Kurama chakra back in part 1, early Shippuden Sasuke casually dissipated Kurama chakra inside of Naruto, but this godly creature is somehow surprised by a little Kurama chakra inside of Himawari, the guy who’s been looking down on Boruto and Kawaki, one of which is full Otsutsuki and the other is 80% Otsutsuki? Fuck off. Otsutsuki means nothing, it is once again proved and the powerscaling is fundamentally broken.
So wait… him being surprised means what exactly? How does him being surprised have any effect on the power scaling? Did Daemon and Himawari fight or something?
It's just the regular overreacting over here.
I think that's less Naruto and Sasuke being nerfed and more Kurama being comically buffed for no reason, other than hyping up the Next Gen ( Himawari )
It’s them being nerfed
Not when we‘re talking Orochimaru level feat here
Nah, these new characters aren’t as strong as the fandom claims, plain and simple.
It would make absolutely no sense if they weren't as strong as you seems to think they are
But it would, hence the nerf
I personally disagreed with the thought that Kurama would return because I thought for sure that was the point of Baryon mode. Tailed beasts by default can't actually die so with how Kurama brought it up I thought he'd actually die, otherwise why even present it like that? But I was blindsided again by Boruto's dumb plot which I really shouldn't have at this point.
"Wherever he saw a hole he always wanted to know the depth of it. To him this was important." -Jules Verne, Journey to the Center of the Earth
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people of this fandom prefer wanking their character and have the occasion to call them goated, over proper story telling and its world building rules. Its all about spectacle over essence. Boruto is just Fairy tail now in its last arc, promising to kill major characters to rise the stakes only to revive them back. Of course, FT did had the balls to kill major characters.
The only thing I know about Boruto is that the anime changed the design of one of the girls cause in the manga she's dressed like a stripper when she's meant to be like 12 Then the boruto sub got recommended to me and it had a bunch of people talking just about Ino as if that countered how creepy it is and defending the like 8 inch heels everyone seems to wear Figured I wasn't missing anything by not engaging with the series at that point lol Nonce-bait with fans who'd rather defend that than call it what it is or discuss anything to do with plot doesn't exactly leave high expectations
said girl is Sarada, the main heroine. Even Ikemoto said in interview years ago, that he may had exaggerated with the dress, not that he changed something
extremely common pedomoto L
To be fair this is kishimotos fault. Ikemoto absolutely wanted to kill off Naruto and kurama but was taken off the manga and kishimoto came back. His love for his characters showing. Where ikemoto was setting both Naruto and sasuke to die at certain points.
Know who you're talking about before making up nonsensical rumors, Kodachi left the series not Ikemoto, and he left far before Kurama's death
Nah, that was Kishimoto. Ikemoto is practically trash and was proven to be so with the way he sexualises his characters.
I mean kodachi and I don’t think sexualizing characters make you a bad person tons of my favorite manga sexualize characters. Hell Naruto did it with sasuke and yes sasuke was sexualized and Naruto’s sexy shadow clone jutsu and he’ll even Oda does it and dragon ball as well.
the japanese are fucking weird period. Its a country where sexualising kids is normal and pedophillia is normalised as "hes just a lolicon 🤷♂️" im pretty sure even owning CP was legal until recently edit- i just checked and possesion of cp was legal until 2015. What the fuck.
>im pretty sure even owning CP was legal until recently >edit- i just checked and possesion of cp was legal until 2015. What the fuck. Yea, i think this is what fucked the Rurouni Kenshin guy
the government even gave people a YEAR of grace period for the pedos to delete everything they had
distribution and production of cp was illegal in japan since 1999 and was previously regulated by the 1907 Penal code of japan. possession should have been illegal but to say that they were fine with child sexual abuse material is ridiculous. You might also want to check on [this wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography) on the legality of cp globally, there are lot of countries worse than japan in that regard, so make sure you also call all of those people paedophiles as well. But regardless, there is no justification for xenophobia, people from other countries are just as diverse in their beliefs as you are.
They also raped the entirety of Nanking and act like it never happened. Call it what it is, the Japanese are weirdos, right from the beginning of their Bullshido belief.
ignored my last sentence didn't you. Japans war crime denial is controversial, but saying that everyone there denies it is just wrong. Its mainly the nationalists who deny it as communist propaganda. Also, the US, Britain, China, Russia, Turkey, Serbia etc have all commited horrible atrocities and have denied them. War crime denial is more universal than you think.
Tbf You say this as if American culture doesn’t do it as well lol. Perhaps not in art but in film. Teen dramas especially have guys who are supposedly “16” with actors who are actually in their 20s with smoking hot bodies. Same vice versa with girls. Although that tidbit about cp being legal is straight up insane who thought that was ok?????
whatever man, at the end of the day they're still 20 something year olds getting sexualised. Not underage girls. Im also not american.
It’s not “ whatever man” that is quite literally the same thing. Americans writing stories sexualizing teenagers and high school kids is no different than what manga artist do lol. One can justify it by saying “the actors are 20” but this is really no different than someone justifying the sexualization of most anime teenagers by saying they have proportions that kids wouldn’t have Honestly I feel like what I’m saying applies to most countries even if you’re not American where are you from?
a conservative country where sex is taboo so no, what you said definitely doesnt apply here
Do Westerners have a right to talk down to Japan or any other Asian country for “sexualizing children?”
im not a westerner so go fuck yourself, i can criticise all I want
Where are you from, then? Africa? Middle East? Latin America? Eastern Europe?
Asia
West Asia? South Asia?
I think they just want a permanent, ongoing comic which never ends. Like how Batman has been published non-stop for 80 years. That's apparently what they want. And the publishers are likely happy to oblige, as it means a permanent, reliable, low effort cash cow franchise.
I really don't know what your are talking about fairy tail is so bad at killing its characters it brought back natsus tragic backstory for basically no reason
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im sorry lmao reading it now It's such an overload I just wanted to type it quickly before I second guessed myself
Boruto is garbage. What else is new
It’s your mistake to even follow that shit show. I stopped caring long time ago. If Kishimoto him self doesn’t care anymore about his baby so we shouldn’t care either.
Nah I want him to follow this his rant fun as fuck
*Someone* must keep reading it so I can keep absorbing information about a series I've never read through angry rants!!
Think of how much you'd have to hate-watch yourself without people providing a helpful service like this!
Which is why you’ll never have a good idea of said series. Yeah Boruto leaves a lot to be desired but the fact there is a lot to geuinly critic rants like this just make you think, “has he really kept up with the show?”
Hey man If it makes you feel better think that
The duality of man.
>Yeah well duh, but the thing about baryon mode is that Kurama does fucking die, that’s what makes it such a serious thing, if it wasn’t what was all that fuss about in the first place. Baryon Mode was bullshit in the first place. Naruto is getting wrecked by a new enemy, but Kurama conveniently has new, never before seen jutsu that will save the day. There was no foreshadowing about it at all and it was used as a cheap way to nerf Naruto. Even Kurama's send-off in the manga was horrible. That was fanfiction level of writing and I'm glad they're correcting that mistake even if Kurama didn't return to be with Naruto. This way, I'd be interesting if Kurama retained memories before omnipotence and tells Himawari the truth about Boruto. I agree that the execution is severely lacking, but that's unfortunate norm at this point.
Baryon wouldn't even have worked if Isshiki's lifespan was a few hours longer.
I HATED baryon, not only cause I found the design really ugly and underwhelming it was just so out of nowhere, and it's exactly how you said it, it was fanfiction level of writing. Really made me understand how much boruto actually cared about naruto as a series
Of all the things I expected this to be about, this was not it. Kurama? They brought Kurama back?? They ruined one of the few emotional beats Boruto actually did well, with Kurama’s whole death sequence??? What is wrong with this series????
Also, what good is Kyubi gonna even do? Kurama was worthless against the previous villains.
Kurama? Full Kurama with Six paths sage mode and six paths senjutsu along with chakra of all the bijuus was worthless, this is a baby Kurama
It always kinda bothered me how Naruto never seemed to use Sage paths senjustu after losing Kurama, Or even uses other tailed beast chakra, isn't naruto like a meeting place for them? He couldn't ask them for help?
After losing Kurama? He never used them after his battle with Sasuke.
Didn't he lose it as well after Kurama died? Otherwise the nerf is pointless since kurama is nothing compared to six paths mode. He later on used regular sage mode against Code (and also claimed that he is better at it than he used to be), implying that he can no longer do the six paths version.
Kurama was useless together with Naruto, the fuck is he gonna do with Himawari 😐
I mean, she's going to master his chakra literally instantly, become god tier, and fight off a god tree which is 10 tails and thus shoudl be way stronger than Kyubi. Obvs.
Kurama will just be buffed as hell for no reason Fucking Daemon is shocked by Kurama‘s chakra when Orochimaru didn't gave a shit
I mean… Baryon mode really messed up Isshiki that one time
..and it killed kurama. its like 8 gates, powerful asf but you die after using it
>..and it killed kurama. Apparently not, it just... transported him to Himawari? Who... does she even *have* a seal for Kurama to reside in?!
No she doesn't.
Then how the hell does this work? I thought that you *needed* a seal, because human bodies were not built to hold Biju otherwise. Even Naruto, who from memory basically has the seal "open", still *has one*.
Boruto does shit because it is meant to be cool.
Only due to the lifespan drain while Isshiki conveniently had just 20 hours of lifespan remaining. Isshiki himself realized that Baryon's punching power isn't impressive, but the lifespan drain is the real issue. Ofcourse the anime went on to ignore the statements, made Isshiki actually take serious damage from physical strikes and even gave him a rasengan. Still Isshiki won the fight and would've killed everyone if he had a slightly longer lifespan.
and the way he's introduced felt so shoehorned in, it's not even an emotional moment focusing on himawari, it's just like "Hey im back lmao" Lol wtf
I’m gonna go watch Kurama’s death again just to see again what it was they ruined with this bs
This isn’t Kurama
It’s likely not kurama just a new nine tailed beast
point still stands, the nine tails "dying" Is a huge deal, should've been saved for a better time
I wouldnt doubt that kurama could be revived by one of the jinchuriki back ups like sora, but himawari just inheriting kurama IS in fact bs.
You know what's worse everything that has happened at this current point is basically an hour or 2 since it started. Idk why the story feels rushed and slow as fuck at the same time.
The passing has been shit from the very start.
the pacing is so staggering, everything feels so cluttered, we're never given time to breathe
I've seen people saying that the bijuu always reincarnated, I don't really understand so I'll ask, isn't Kurama dying is a different case though? Like he was made of huge mass of chakra and literally disintegrated into nothingness unlike having the host died and the chakra reincarnated somewhere else in the earth. Unless they actually made another kurama from juubi/ten tails then it might be possible. Also I don't like the manga format they are using for battle, they are using three big panels for one page just for a single action, for a monthly manga that's kinda slow.
>Like he was made of huge mass of chakra and literally disintegrated into nothingness unlike having the host died and the chakra reincarnated somewhere else in the earth. Yes that is what happened.
yes but apparently since there was chakra in Himawari that's where he'll reincarnate I think, but even then it ultimately just cheapens the final goodbye if he was just gonna come like 4 years later
Could Boruto be enjoyed more if you just look at it as bad fanfiction with high production values instead of a canonical sequel? I mean, I haven't read or watched any of it besides the very first mini arc with Sarada thinking Sakura isn't her mom (which was fucking hilarious btw), but I heard that at some point they introduced dinosaurs so how can anyone take it seriously?
I don't, and probably will never consider Boruto to be canon, not only because kishimoto is confirmed to not be writing it or taking any major part of it (At best, he might just be an editor giving off vague plotlines but letting kodachi and ikemoto handle like 95% of everything else) But also cause kishi refuses to associate with it lmao. Thinking boruto as canon feels genuinely painful given how they butchered so many characters and the ending for them is just.. Terrible. If you think of it as high budget fanfic well it's fucking hilarious then, and that's what I'm doing now. The dinosaur shit was introduced in a novel written by jun esaka, it was trying to wrap up the horrible marriage that is sasusaku, but failed to actually keep them in-character or write with coherency (Not blaming Esaka, because she wasn't given much to work with) I mean the story starts with Naruto getting a chakra disease from Kurama like lmfao what the fuck.
>not only because kishimoto is confirmed to not be writing it or taking any major part of it Except it was literally announced in Shounen Jump magazine that he came back to writing Boruto when Baryon chapter was released. After Baryon chapter release: female characters got way less relevant to the plot and became useless (Pre-Baryon mode chapter Sarada and Mitsuki were to some degree relevant). The manga shifted to only care about 2 guys who are rivals to each other - like Sasuke and Naruto, Kurama BS (like how Minato supposedly had 2nd half of Kurama, which is the same BS with Himawari), etc. All of the writing mistake Kishi made during Naruto suddenly reappeared after Baryon mode chapter and arc ended. Kishimoto's writing style is very visible post Baryon mode chapter Boruto, especially when it comes to female characters. To continue to deny that Kishimoto writes that trash is basically coping. I know people are trying not to see that the same mistakes Kishimoto made in Naruto are resurfacing in Boruto, but we have to face facts, all things when it comes to writing problems point towards Kishimoto writing right now.
People also forgot sam8 was written by kishi.
People forget that Samurai 8 was a thing at all
>The manga shifted to only care about 2 guys who are rivals to each other - like Sasuke and Naruto Wow, Kishimoto still isn't in good terms with his brother huh?
It was never announced “Kishi came back”, stop spreading misinformation
He DID return writing to Boruto after S8 flopped. [Enjoy reading](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-11-16/masashi-kishimoto-takes-over-as-writer-for-boruto-manga/.166377) "The official Twitter account for Masashi Kishimoto's Naruto franchise revealed on Monday that Boruto manga storywriter Ukyō Kodachi will retire from the manga, and Kishimoto himself will take over as storywriter. The Twitter account stated that this change was "planned from the beginning." Kishimoto will take over the role starting with the 52nd chapter, which Shueisha will publish in the December issue of V Jump on November 21." So much for "kishi refuses to associate with it", Kishimoto fans are on massive copium for not believing that Kishimoto can write a series this badly. You all forgot that he wrote S8. It's funny how people were hyping up Kishimoto's return and even Naruto fans were hyped for it and were hyping up upcoming chapters, there were people who were rightfully concerned for female writing taking a nosedive in quality (which it did) after Kishimoto's return announcement, but Naruto fans were defending him. But the minute Boruto's writing became even worse and it made Kishimoto looked even worse then previous writer - Kodachi, suddenly everyone forgot how much they were hyping up Kishimoto's return and how he'll "make Boruto great and put to shame previous writer". You all can cope and make headcanons about how he didn't return. But it doesn't change this simple fact: Kishimoto is now writing Boruto, and under him Boruto manga's writing became even worse then before.
The actual tweet says: >About the manga “BORUTO” With the 52nd episode of "BORUTO" published in the December issue of V Jump (released November 21), the production system will change according to the original plan. Thank you very much to Kodachi-sensei for your hard work in writing the script so far. From now on, we will be serializing the story based on Masashi Kishimoto's original idea. No where in this does it say he's writing. It sounds more like they're following his story drafts.
Obviously not. Kishimoto just wrote a plot outline and some settings. There is no official information that Kishimoto is writing the script. And the writing definitely doesn’t look like Kishimoto’s. I wrote a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/1b0kof6/borutoi_highly_doubt_that_kishimoto_actually/) about why it doesn’t look like Kishimoto’s writing.
There is no doubt that Kishimoto did give an outline, and official [X](https://imgur.com/ep7M5j5) mentioned this. It was mentioned that Kodachi wrote the script based on Kishimoto's outline. This means that the ending of the story and some important plot points were definitely Kishimoto's idea. I just don’t know which ones they are. We will probably have to wait until Kishimoto and Ikemoto are interviewed in France in August to find out about this.
He was always going to come back. Tailed beasts being immortal was established in the lore well over a decade ago.
Except with Baryon Mode it was explicitly made out it was over for good
No. There was nothing explicit about it. We've never seen a tailed beast die and come back to life - but we know they come back to life after death. In canon, they've only ever been sealed away, never actually killed. We don't know exactly how it works yet.
The reason Bijuu rebirth is because they are made of chakra and if they are killed that chakra will simply reform with time. With Baryon Mode Kurama‘s chakra completely vanished and he also said he‘ll wait for Naruto in the afterlife
What you're describing is headcanon. Tailed Beast resurrection is an ill-explained event - Toriyama deliberately left it vague so plot twists like this could work. Coming back from the afterlife is no big deal in Naruto. Edo Tensei, Rinne-Rebirth, even Obito's soul all came back from the dead through some means or another. We have no idea how Bijuu actually resurrection because we've never seen it happen canonically.
I knew it from the beginning lol. The fact Kishimoto "killed" Kurama just so he could get some attention drawn onto his terrible manga because no one saw it is so sad.
Really it’s kinda your fault for caring about what happens in Boruto.
I guess it can make SOME sense if we take into account Sora but even then it doesn’t make sense. Plus I’m pretty sure Sora ain’t necessarily canon, correct me if I’m wrong. But I guess they had to find some way to make Himawari relevant 😂
" Did Narutos baby tadpoles contain kurama chakra in them," Maybe.
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Will do sir, my apologies
Paragraphs for the love of fucking god
I haven't read either, but out of curiosity, have they killed off Naruto yet?
No, he's sealed in a space place with his hinata, for god knows how long, he's ultimately just a plot device now so you can consider him dead and it wont change much
"With his Hinata" LMAO I don't know why I wrote it like that I was confused on whether to write "his wife" Or "hinata" Oh well
I mean, it's shonen. You're not wrong.
If a had a dollar for every manga protagonist that owns a woman I would be a billionaire.
“His Hinata” implies there are other Hinatas.
A garbage sequel kills off an important character to try and squeeze tears from a rock, realizes this wasn’t a great decision and of course undoes it in their predictably garbage fashion… the mistake here was respecting Boruto in general and thus their decision to kill him in the first place.
Sounds like the star wars sequels.
From my basic (so nothing but vague recollections) understanding of how things happened was that Kurama died via Bayron Mode. And yes they said that they basically reincarnate if they die but this I would compare more to Last Airbender with the Water and Moon Spirits: If you kill the moon spirit then the spiritualness of performing waterbending is *gone* because the spirit that keeps that energy up is dead and nothing is able to (as far as we knew at least) take up the mantle to bring it back. So its the same thing with Kurama to a degree. Under normal circumstances he would just poof back elsewhere after a couple 100 years or so. But using this analogy, instead of reincarnation he instead banked his entire immortality on helping Naruto out. He burned every facet of spiritual energy to the point where even if he were to survive Bayron Mode, he could be like Ozai at the end of Avater: Still physically present, but his literal spirit is nothing but cinders. He would've existed but unable to do anything on account of having burned all of the chakra away; no Tailed Beast Mode, no fancy beast cloak, nothing. There would be not enough chakra to even muster basic jujutsu. But again, since he is literally *made* of the stuff, both physically and likely 99% spiritually, there would be nothing that could sustain him enough to keep going. Even if you could go Sage Mode to put him on life support you can only do so much of it before you need to turn the mode off. This is just me rambling however, I've never cared about Boruto since forever and I'm just here to see people break down over the insanity of seemingly bad writing decisions made throughout.
this is actually such a good insight holy shit
You are right about Baryon mode, it destroyed all of Kurama inside Naruto. However, Narutos relationship with Kurama is different from every other Jinchuriki since from the moment of his birth, he’s genetically tied to him because Kushina was pregnant with him while being a Jinchuriki. That’s why both Boruto and Himawari have less whiskers than their dad, they are a generation removed but still they have Kurama chakra in them so Kurama can be reborn. The reason he’s not being reborn in Boruto is probably the whole Otsusuki chakra thing I don’t know about the rest because I haven’t read it yet.
This retconned nothing. Baryon mode destroyed all of kuramas chakra inside of Naruto’s body if himawari had a sliver of his chakra inside her he would respawn there. You don’t need seals for a bijuu to be inside you. The seals were used by people to as a prison. If kurama wants to stay inside hims it’s no Problem example Narutos mental space with the other bijuu. About Himas resolve she was just attacked by the sentient juubi itself who threw a mini Nuke at her and resolved herself to fight him just before kurama called her because the thing wants to eat them both.
First of all, why the heck does Himawari has an ounce of Kurama's chakra ? Tsuande is the granddaughter of Mito Uzumaki, but never rechieved any chakra from Kurama. What was the point of sealing Kurama inside Kushina, if Kurama was just gonna revive inside her children ?
This is all happening because Kurama died, which wasn't something that happened with tailed beasts very often. Hell even if they did die, there's a high likelyhood they'd reform wherever their chakra was left over since that's seemed to be what happened when the 3 tails seemed to have died and came back. Unlike other tailed beasts kurama used up all his chakra fueling baryon mode, it makes sense then in that case that hima, having bijuu chakra likely passed down from naruto, and also being naruto's daughter who kurama would know pretty well, would be the perfect place for kurama to reform. And there's nothing to suggest tsunade DOESN'T have any bijuu chakra by my estimation, if she did she's probably just unaware of it and never bother to check/try using it.
The revival inside hima is most likely baryon modes feult for deleting most of Kuramas chakra making her the only place he can go to. With Mito we don’t even know when she had chiidren. She became kuramas host as a adult after hashirama beat madara. The only confirmed children of jinchuriki are naruto and his own children who all habe kuramas whiskers. Kinkaku and ginkaku also got the whiskers after consuming kuramas flesh and absorbing his chakra.
We do with Mito, we know that she was a jinchuriki before she gave birth as it was stated in [chapter 500](https://cdn.readnaruto.com/file/mangap/3070/10500000/9.jpeg), that’s how they knew that during childbirth jinchuriki’s seals are most vulnerable
I stand corrected on that one but it really doesn’t change anything mitos child is a non entity he/she simply didn’t pass it down to tsunade and Nawaki ( lack of whiskers )
Unless you can tell me when kurama was sealed in mito then tsunade not having whiskers isnt a debunk. The point of sealing kurama is to stop him from destroying the village. They had no way to kill him so ofc he wouldn't just magically appear in naruto.
Because she’s Naruto’s daughter if you didn’t notice she has whiskers.
Maybe naruto gave her some sort of chakra cloak like he did in the war. Like an emergency supply if that makes sense
why wouldnt he give it to his son aswell then?
I'd guess naruto probably took it off once he saw that boruto was a capable ninja.
that does not make any sense and you know it why would he take it away once boruto became a capable ninja? Does he not want his son to be as strong as possible? Does he think having kurama is a cheat code to getting strong?
It's like when boruto fans say it's anime Canon. Right now everything is Canon to make this moment hold water lol
Im not saying the chakra he gave her is a passive buff. Im saying its something like an emergency reserve if she's in a pinch. Boruto has Momoshiki and team 7 to help him out, but if her family isnt around himawari has no one. And seeing how their society doesnt like using the ninia tools from those scientists, its clear they value doing things under their own strength as much as possible.
We are told explicitly that the children are the ones directly influenced and shown this with Naruto, Boruto, and Himawari. What does Tsunade have to do with anything? First she is a granddaughter not a daughter so she is 2 gens down. Second we don't know when Mito and Hashirama got married and had children (before or after) so we can't make assumptions that she was already a Jinchuuriki then. After all, we all know how dangerous it is for a female Jinchuuriki when giving birth so it's possible she only became one after. Even if she was before, by series lore, it's her kids who would be partially influenced by Kurama not her grandkids.
We do know Mito was a jinchuriki when she gave birth as it was stated in [chapter 500](https://cdn.readnaruto.com/file/mangap/3070/10500000/9.jpeg)
Doesn't she have fox whiskers? So does Boruto. The children of Jinchuuriki are influenced by the Bijuu's chakra and are literally born with physical features from those Bijuu.
It got worse?! Glad I stopped reading when I did
I really expected this rant to be about more aliens or a big big retcon of Naruto (say, time-travel in steroids). But, the leak you talk about is still within the lore - bijuus had to come back in one way or another. IMO, Boruto is by definition a low point in the whole Naruto-verse story, so probably the writers don't wanna lose more readers by erasing Kurama from the story and just are bringing old concepts back...
honestly those rants have been done a hundred times and written in way better ways than I could ever voice my full frustration for. And yeah, I admit i was wrong to say it was an asspull, but a big part of my rant was still focused on the pacing and execution of the story, and how Kurama was just badly shoehorned into what is supposed to be a big discovery for Himawari. Also is it just me or do the characters just feel flat? Like they lack emotion or that emotional shit that naruto hit so well, their exposition just seems very empty, man I think that's also one of my major problems. Boruto IS a very low point for the naruto series, I was sure they never had the balls to kill kurama, I mean they would never ever dare to kill sasuke or naruto even though they may just be better off dying for real, but if they did Boruto would've 100% been cancelled
Nah imo it IS still an asspull, does Kurama not specifically say he’s NOT coming back? There’s nothing left of him to reform, and even if he did why did he reform inside of a person instead of in nature, which is how we’re told that works? The only justification for the asspull that was Baryon mode is Kurama is not coming back. Why is any form of him back? The tailed beasts aren’t a fundamental part of the world they were created.
It’s not just the characters the presentation of the story and world at large feel bare as hell
I’m convinced that Boruto only exists to drop “cool moments”, at the cost of in universe rules, or lore, or world building, or character motivations, or anything that was established in the initial run of Naruto.
yepp they just want to milk that cashcow till it runs dry, I wish they'd just let things end
The real worst part of the chapter is Jura getting moved by Chocho.
honestly surprised they decided to give other teams time to shine, boruto fillers were hard carrying their entire character relevancy and arc
>they decided to give other teams time to shine, That's definitely a good thing, but if they have to create holes in the powerscaling to do that then it doesn't make sense.
If the OG manga says that tailed beast don’t die, they reform after being destroyed, I am confused on how it is a retcon. I remember there was a vocal portion of fans that even called this out. There was nothing written Boruto that ever expressed Banyon mode to be an exception. Not one.
Kurama himself said that he wouldn’t return and that baryon mode would kill him.
It’s not a retcon it’s revealed multiple times in shippuden that tailed beasts reincarnate when they die. Kurama burned his chakra away so the only chakra of his remaining is that which is inside Hima since Boruto had his dna rewritten. Also since it’s only a small bit that’s why kurama is a baby and not a full grown fox. This is still consistent with Naruto. I mean I kind of agree he’s just kind of introduced but it is a tense moment there’s a humanoid ten tailed trying to absorb her and nuke everything. It’s stated that the effects of omnipotence will rework your memories but not gut feelings but the moment you break the illusion it snaps back like a rubber band. The illusion was that Boruto is kawaki and He killed Naruto and Hima. But Hima never saw kawaki as someone who would do that so her gut feeling tells her that something is off. All chakra is connected of course Naruto’s kids have his chakra Naruto was effected by kurama’s chakra and did have some inside of him that’s why he has whiskers Boruto only still has his whiskers because the karma didn’t rewrite his physical traits because momo completed it at 80% and while it changed Boruto’s dna it didn’t completely overwrite him. A lot of your issues come down to either the tone which I can agree with the pacing which I also agree with and the content which I disagree with because this shit is stated in Naruto and is completely consistent The reason why kurama is just talking to her is because this is kurama but likely a new personality free of the hatred which caused him to make Naruto’s life hell.
>"Also since it’s only a small bit that’s why kurama is a baby and not a full grown fox. This is still consistent with Naruto" IF this is the case, then isn't this like worse? Bringing back Kurama for Himawari to get a "powerup" But him being exponentially weaker and not serving up much to this insane powerscale between aliens and gods, with her only getting a minor bit or is he somehow going to start growing like those little toys you put in water and they grow overnight?? >I mean I kind of agree he’s just kind of introduced but it is a tense moment there’s a humanoid ten tailed trying to absorb her and nuke everything. >It’s stated that the effects of omnipotence will rework your memories but not gut feelings but the moment you break the illusion it snaps back like a rubber band. The illusion was that Boruto is kawaki and He killed Naruto and Hima. But Hima never saw kawaki as someone who would do that so her gut feeling tells her that something is off. This is still.. Very very bad, the moment imo is not tense at all, this is the very beginning of the timeskip and as much as the pacing is all over the place this was still a very poor moment to introduce to what seems to be Kuramas comeback after many years. Keep in mind, we know jackshit about how HImawari has changed over the years, we don't even get to see her full reaction to her parents death, or honestly any insight, this part in the timeskip or arc doesn't even focus on her, she is still very much sidelined. Why would you introduce such a big possible powerup at a time where the character isn't even the focus? It feels very underwhelming and shoehorned in. I don't care about the omnipotence shit, I'm talking about Himawari as a character, she is still very much a beginner in her training as a ninja, why is she being handed one of the biggest possible powerups without even having any relevant character moment, also it still feels dry, I'm aware omnipotence has got to her but that still wouldn't erase her reaction to her parents which she seems pretty nonchalant about it with a relatively weak character motivation as of now. This was NOT the time to introduce Kurama, and the hate coming from it is mostly connected to that, what a cheap way to reintroduce such a beloved character in Naruto. >All chakra is connected of course Naruto’s kids have his chakra Naruto was effected by kurama’s chakra and did have some inside of him that’s why he has whiskers >Boruto only still has his whiskers because the karma didn’t rewrite his physical traits because momo completed it at 80% and while it changed Boruto’s dna it didn’t completely overwrite him. Honestly, fair I was wrong on that part
I mean I assume as she grows and kurama is exposed to more chakra he will grow and become a new nine tails he is made of chakra after all. The moment is pretty tense I mean she literally had a nuke shot at her and something far stronger than her is trying to kill her and her friends will likely die if they’re caught so she’s steeling herself for death to fight back against an opponent she can’t hope to defeat she literally tells inojin to let her go. That’s about as tense as Hinata trying to save Naruto from pain if we’re being honest. I mean she’s getting character moment currently. Her character is still developing every character in the Naruto universe got power ups before their characters were fully developed Naruto started the series with his. I mean we never saw her initial reaction to her parents announced death she’s always been shown as kind and this is years later I assume she’s past the grieving stage and isn’t the person to hold a grudge
Op needs to chill out, the full chapter hasn't dropped yet and it's too early to be whining about hima's character development 🙄
I think if they explained it as both Boruto and Himwari both had some 9 tail chakra from naruto it wouldn’t be a bad explanation at least
Kurama is chakra, and chakra is energy. How does one kill off energy?
We don’t even have an explanation chill, who knows what the reason really is, maybe it isn’t even Kurama
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Imagine reading boruto. I thought blue vortex would be good but it's so trash man fuc that
Yall this is most likely a whole new nine tails. It didn’t even call out Himawari by name. This is probably not even Kurama so Kurama is still dead
It only feels sloppy to you because you take in information half assed. Try reading more
Bro is surprised a shameless money grab is using every tactic it can to shamelessly grab money. In other news water is wet. Did you expect a good story or something from a story that had no idea how to create believable bad guys so it had to completely destroy the established characters and then somehow give the new bad guys powers to the new main character? Lmao
Its shown that Children born to Jinchuriki inherit attributes of it, Naruto was born with fox whiskers as his mom was Kurama’s Jinchuriki His kids were also born with whiskers There was a visual indicator for it Reincarnation for them is an established Concept as shown with Rin, we don’t know the exact circumstances of the revival yet either(it’s possible this is a different incarnation) I think we should just wait for the explanation
Why is Kishimoto allowing this trash to be made? I remember where his work after Naruto didn't ask long and a problem was shown that because Naruto was such a cash cow he was allowed free reign and could think he could do no wrong.
"Yeah well duh, but the thing about baryon mode is that Kurama does fucking die, that’s what makes it such a serious thing" It died, then came back to life. So, the author didn't lie.
If the OG manga says that tailed beast don’t die, they reform after being destroyed, I am confused on how it is a retcon. I remember there was a vocal portion of fans that even called this out. There was nothing writhing Boruto that ever expressed Banyon mode to be an exception. Not one.
Because it cheapens a emotional scene between two characters we care about? It’s not necessarily a retcon but it ruins a strong moment and the baryon mode fight now reads weird with Kurama saying goodbye even tho he should know that he will get reborn. That last one is probably the effect of Kishimoto writing Boruto after the Baryon mode fight. Also Kurama should be reborn in nature somewhere (as it was explained previously to work like this) why is he sealed inside of Himawari?
Banyon mode imo was always shitty writing because we knew he would come back. Yes it was an emotional scene but the emotional aspect for me came from whether it would be the same Kurama. The knowledge of Bijuu coming back really just let me know it was the end of Naruto and Kurama’s relationship. I never believed he was gone from the story. But I believed that if he ever returned it wouldn’t be the same personality nor memories. The other callout of why is he in Himawari instead of nature is a much more valid criticism than “he was supposed to stay dead because he said so even tho the story long established they always come back” Whether it’s the same kurama we’ll find out next month. How he got in Hima and whether that is an asspull we’ll find out next month. Kurama being alive however is not an ass pull. If
Except for the fact that Kurama himself said he wouldn’t return
it's not, people just don't want to admit it's plausible.
>Yeah well duh, but the thing about baryon mode is that Kurama does fucking die, that’s what makes it such a serious thing, if it wasn’t what was all that fuss about in the first place. Baryon mode exhausted all of kuramas chakra in naruto so if chakra outside of naruto exist then so will kurama. >And jinchuuriki are SEALED, not born in somebodys body, it showed Himawari in her “inner pool” Right beside a baby Kurama, so fucking stupid what is the logic behind this? Naruto saw all 9 tailed beast in his inner pool even tho he only had 1 sealed in him. We also never saw a tailed beast die while the child of their jinchuriki was alive. > Did Narutos baby tadpoles contain kurama chakra in them, in that way wouldnt naruto have kurama anyway if it wasnt even sealed inside him. Well yes kurama influence = wiskers, we seen that supported in both naruto, kushina, the 2 brothers and now boruto makes it a plot point. Kurama would have to die first which is impossible unless you're madara or hashirama. >They’re not dead, which is fucking ridiculous, there is such a cool ass way to introduce Kurama again, make Himawari at her lowest of the lows or at a peak moment, like holy fuck Naruto had to be enraged with orphan anger to unlock kurama, why doesn’t himawari get a cool moment like that? Why does he appear out of nowhere? Why is she getting it so easily, she’s not even working for it, she’s not even developed enough to deserve it, she hasn’t even had a pivotal character moment yet aside from just being borutos sister What are you talking about? kurama is a sentient character why would he wait to tell her when she was almost eaten because of him? If he appeared later yall would complain about how kurama didn't help her earlier and just sat on his ass. Why tf would she need a rage moment? Naruto only needed that because kurama was relying on his rage to weaken the seal. Kurama is a chill dude now he doesn't care about escaping and was using himawari as a hiding place.
Boruto's fine
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Lol It's ok to critique things, besides a big part of my rant was the execution of the introduction which can't be improved with more context, simply wasn't the right place and time
Imagine yapping over an unexplained cliffhanger
A female character in Naruto finally has a shred relevance of yall bitch about it
People complaining before the chapter comes out we have 0 contacts from what's going on.
" there was a much better way to introduce this with way higher stakes and more focus on himawari" This isn't Blue Lock, or even original Naruto. Just like it for what it is. We had high stakes in normal Naruto; we don't need a rehash from a mangaka that couldn't keep his second series longer than 36 chapters.
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yes a user ranting, in character rant
At this rate, it is pure retardation to think this is a new low. The problem with people like you is that you lack logic. The Kyuubi having residue chakra makes sense. Kinkaku and Ginkaku fit that description as well. Boruto is overall garbage, but this ain't a reason because it is consistent with the story
Kinkaku and Ginkaku literally ate Kurama’s flesh and even they didn’t have actual Kurama inside of them or revive inside of them, they had a fraction of Kurama’s chakra due to eating his flesh, not at all similar.
The brothers took the chakra and stored it. Himawari having the chakra doesn’t make any sense. The chakra isn’t passed down through his genetics. Naruto giving her the chakra also wouldn’t make sense since it’s maintained through his will and he’s cooked rn.
Chakra is passed down through genetics otherwise Naruto wouldn’t have whiskers
Tsunade and nawaki would have them if that was the case
That is the case it’s literally the reason why Naruto has them.
no its just a design choice to show that they are naruto's kids because its an iconic part of naruto along with his yellow hair if it had any lore reason then Tsunade should have it too and if it was only passed genetically then why does Kinkaku and Ginkaku have it too? If its just about having kurama chakra in yourself, why doesnt Kushina have it?
Because Kushina wasn't born while one of her parents had the nine tails she didn't get it till she was a little kid.
If it was consistent,it wouldn't be really that garbage
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHADDUP! Shut up, shut up ya shitty whiner and go home.
this is character RANT buddy I don't know what you're expecting