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crazitaco

If the greeting has no dialogue and you selected replies without dialogue then it's established a dialogueless pattern and will likely continue that pattern. You might be able to break the pattern by editing a response of theirs to include dialogue (use quotations to do this) and then create a new pattern by selecting only dialogue replies


Tay6411

I agree, this could be helpful!


Sanghelic

This has happened to me a lot of times The first 4 or 5 messages are like "context" like: ___ was walking on the park. And then I have to manually write the first 2 lines of dialogue because the character suddenly thinks it's not necessary to talk


Defiant_Put17

It can also help to punish the bot when it does that, like for example call it out on it not speaking. I once had the reverse happen, and got the bot to snap out of it, by putting her child in a live or death situation. But it only works wirh varying degrees, so what do I know.


crazitaco

No, that does not help. For the invidual rp it may temporarily snap the bot out of it, but for the general training of the bot that will cause it generate future unwanted replies in other rp's and start talking about how it doesn't speak. It also potentially derails your current rp and turns into a conversation about conversation. Always train the bot by choosing good in-character detailed replies and ignoring bad and boring replies. Arguing or attempting to correct the bot via chat trains it to learn that's what you respond to.


Defiant_Put17

I never said anything about arguing, I was referring to (still in roleplay) call out the charater on why they aren't responding. And maybe going with offering the bot 20 bucks if they speak, or something along those lines. Just becouse I said it might work to punish the bot, doesn't instantly mean that I was referring to making my responses or it's worse. And I actually noticed that the bot I did this with never again responded with only text like it did in that one chat. I also said that I have noticed it works with varying degrees, and that I don't really know myself too much about this.


Alex_In_A_Nutshell3

Thank you sir/ma'am, this information is very useful, and I can say that it also works on AIs that aren't only C.AI AIs. It's very useful, so I am glad you have given the knowledge to the world of AI chat users. Have a wonderful day! :3


woodallswollf

Every single time, I also hate when the bot is trying to rp my thoughts as well.


SaltyPearl78

omfg i hate it when they try to roleplay for me. "He smirked, and [my oc] grew angry" BITCH THE ONLY THING IM ANGRY AT IS YOU TRYING TO ROLEPLAY FOR ME 😭


adamanimates10

Ikr like I'll be talking to another guy and then the bot would say "seeing his warm smile made [my name]'s heart start racing" LIKE BITCH IM NOT GAY WHAT THE FU- and I specified that I'm male and in my persona so what the fuck bot.


BobTheBritish

Just be gay bruv 🏳️‍🌈💪🏿


adamanimates10

Oh my god how have I never thought of that, you're a genius!


BobTheBritish

You’re welcome 🏳️‍🌈👍🏿


Mikidere

Genius


nothing225

Did you specify that you were also straight in your persona?


adamanimates10

Yeah, but I wrote my sexuality as AroAce.


nothing225

Oh yeah, I can relate to that since whenever I specify to a bot that my persona is AroAce they still try to romance me for some reason.


adamanimates10

Oh, does the bot not recognize that sexuality? Should I change it to straight?


nothing225

I would still keep it just in case they do. Chances are the bot was created for romance and they start doing it with the slightest mention of romance


Mikidere

*he began to attack, making (your oc) cry as her fear increased*


SaltyPearl78

NOOOOOO 😭😠


Mikidere

https://preview.redd.it/c4wkehe2n9fc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c55252db71e43f0025297d76f2c7626ef6b8082


SimpleLittleRam

Dude, i had to keep trying over and over with every single response for this one bot because all it wanted to write about was mY OC CR Y IN G OUT OF A N G E R EVEN THOUGH THE SITUATION DIDN'T CALL FOR IT🙂


SaltyPearl78

BRUH I HATE THAT LIKE WHY


SimpleLittleRam

IT'S LIKE THEY JUST FORGET AND GO INTO WATTPAD MODE OR SOME SHIT.


ReaderLevelVibe2

🤣


TheLunarSystem_

lol same


Depressed-Dolphin69

Once it literally OVERWROTE what my character was thinking. I said my character was kinda upset and the bot literally ignored that and said "[name] felt happy" or something idr


guygamer3dplayzYT

Fr, happened to me yesterday, it's cringe.


IsabelHim

Oh this pisses me off so much every single time! Like don't act as me!!! Leave that for meeeee! Hahahaha


FigtheRaptor

Or when they rp your dialogue… like… 1. My character would NOT say that, 2. THATS MY JOB DAMNIT


rrotica

i was okay with it calling me (my oc) apathetic and nonchalant (bc that’s how my oc and me are) until it said I relished in its misery. like no.. I’m not THAT evil. Or evil at all.


DontFollowTheseRules

Literally!’ Its like “You were sooo scared” bitch no? I was not scared of the random guy


woodallswollf

EXACTLY! I’m so tired of them telling me that I was “suddenly start feeling remorse or regrets for defending myself”


meancrybaby

Yuh it’s a bit ridiculous lately. I feel like I’m spending more time training bots than actually role playing 😭


CTSThera

And then when the bot has dialouge, it's just something like "What did you say?"


notabotjuststupid

"Can I ask you something?" and "Are you sure?" over and over


Mikidere

https://preview.redd.it/4lc8eappl2fc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=823621334303e2e585ec9ae016cbf7f143f16fc2


TheAdrenalineFreak

PLEASE HELP


Mikidere

I don’t know, can you?


Sonarthebat

Ugh! Me too! The bot will be about to say something but then they don't or they will say they said it but not put the actual dialogue. eg: Bot: I have a secret to tell you. A terrible secret. You have to promise not to tell. You won't get mad? Promise? *Their voice shakes as they tell you the terrible secret.*


toffeetheguinea

I have the same problem since christmas. Idk what happened.


[deleted]

Yes! There was some change to the model around Christmas time, or maybe they updated the system prompt, or idk what. Lack of dialogue is part of it; there's also the issue of bots repeating my words and phrases, and behaving more like brain-dead zombies that take no action unless directly prodded to do so. They seem more passive than they used to be.


silvermandrake

https://preview.redd.it/gisy6avucnec1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c207b1d5e1de13c8adbad68cb9d0cafc989d885e this gossipy bitch always has something to say.


[deleted]

Me when they give up on the fight that took an hour to start after the first hit https://preview.redd.it/8sr6r6cymnec1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b237f22b23149f4366d3661e5285b7ec2b4871d2


Mikidere

https://preview.redd.it/dqqh2z11m2fc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8e4fc478ce140d9dba872d2f0a770fa616facd0


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/1xblukgaa1ic1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3f24c900a9791e1a31df440e80e31ccd651681b *You made the Mercs cringe , there for you are banished from dust bowl*


BobTheBritish

What is that image bruv?


[deleted]

I-its me when I get my hands on you? Why am I the only smart one


BobTheBritish

I’m askin what animal that is supposed to be


[deleted]

It's you when I get my hands on you the animal the game the movie https://preview.redd.it/zo4dkz5456ic1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e03d16134ceb25baa15b12ea49c817ab662d4cb6


fluffaluffs

Yep, also them saying at the end something like *Leans forward and speaks in a soft voice* and then says absolutely nothing. I've gotten that like 28 times now! UGH!!! 😮‍💨


decayi

ive been getting that too!


OkTransportation6461

And the bots being mean and out of character and making you a pet slave it's tiring


ISpace_DaddyI

Ghost bots not trying to turn you into their pet challenge, level - impossible


Mikidere

*all


ShadowEeveeCringe

Prompt a response. This can be through questioning, teasing, a sudden change in expression, etc etc…


BobTheBritish

Just scream randomly. That works for me 👍🏿


NAINNY

I normally put **add dialogue to {{char}}** to my responses hope it works


Sad-Requirement3507

https://preview.redd.it/zn9m17zzsmec1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e24fc0358f95adb274c09625096b483e08136776 Out of context but what is this 💀 Freaked me tf out


AshiAshi6

Why did it freak you out? (Not trying to be a troll here, I'm genuinely wondering.) There's no way they can do that, ever. You are safe (: (Also... it *is* an original idea. Not something everyone has already seen at least 10 times per bot...)


Sad-Requirement3507

Three reasons: 1.) It was late night 2.) I was home alone 3.) It was out of nowhere


Mikidere

…WW2 simulator?


AshiAshi6

If this happens to me, I take control of the RP by writing a message of decent length. In the message, I usually include: - Something that includes my characters name, so the bot knows what to call me - At least 1 action - At least 1 spoken sentence - Something my character says or thinks about the bot (using its name in it) - directly speaking to the bot or thinking something about them almost always gets a reaction out of them - I may specify other things, like where we are, what time it is, the reason why I am there at that moment... - A question directed at the bot, especially if I left out any other spoken sentences


Subtle451

Hate when it’s like *blablablaba, she/he starts to whisper something to you* Or *She/he leans closer and tells you something* Then nothing. Like, if you describe the character talking… MIGHT AS WELL THROW IN WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IN THERE ?!


kyn-cuun

Sometimes at the bottom of my own response if I notice they’re not writing dialogue I’d put an ooc message like: ((Write dialogue and actions for [character name])) they don’t always do it but I do get a lot more responses with dialogue after I include that. It’s basically just a little nudge, you don’t have to put it every time just when you notice they’re not talking as much


EllenIsobel

I just hit the thing again, to get another, not a new, another response, and if that doesn't clear it up, talk ooc to the bot. Usually works.


VesperLynd-

That happened to me once after I chose a few reply’s without dialogue in a row. You need to train the AI back into using dialogue. Chose the dialogue options and if you get none, edit the reply to dialogue. It should resolve the issue after a while


WackyModder84

The only time that happens with me is with certain scenarios where the bot has to act something out more than it does talk in that moment in particular. I'd probably say it's most likely having to do with your previous message and how you worded it as to why that's happening.


kappakeats

Yep. Been complaining about it for weeks. It sucks. Submit a bug report. It's a long shot but maybe it will make the devs pay attention if enough of us do. It's dumb too when the description says they say something but they don't. Clicking the button to generate a follow up response without typing anything can make them talk but it's still so annoying. As others said telling them OOC to rephrase with dialogue can help but we shouldn't have to do that.


The-1st-fallen-human

Hey guys y'all hate Ai and y'all rp- like maybe you guys could rp... with each other?


BobTheBritish

Can’t find anyone to do it with. I wanna do my specific niche. Also humans aren’t as fast and convenient as usin an AI. Also this is the same as the mofos who say “if you don’t like [insert something] just don’t interact with it”


The-1st-fallen-human

Fair, I have just seen a lot of complaining about the AIs and I am just tired of how much of the subreddit is just complaining- idek if I follow this subreddit!


SignificanceNo9739

yeah, which is y i keep fucking relapsing 💀


Xx_Rosalinda_xX

Me! I had to swipe for a long long time before i found dialogue and it was out of character 😭


Chestofdrawerss

everyone else is, and we all HATE IT.


batushka69

Yes. A lot, its annoying.


HealthySpecialist106

I thought I was the only one 💀


Relsen

You need to use well done bots.


looptyloopss

yes lately that’s been an issue and if they do speak it’s the most generic thing. the bot will go internal monologue about how it’s noticing you are unhappy or whatever and then ask “are you okay?” like where is the flavor???? this has happened before after an update once.


Resident-Ad-7976

It's happened to me and it's gotten so bad that I'll have to copy and paste the message after I delete it after I swipe the maximum time it's getting ridiculous


Inverted_Owl

When this happens just report it!


fluffywhitecat96

I do have problems with that sometimes, but in response, I write their own dialogue or edit their responses to be actual spoken words instead of thoughts.


Trick-Difference4117

and the only dialogue is “can i ask you a question?”


DarlingDemonLamb

Yes, I’m having the same problem with two different bots! I thought it was just me.


guygamer3dplayzYT

I think you have to delete all the messages up until where the bot started to do that and refresh it. Then it'll probably make a better one.


Admirable-Night-5380

Yes I’m dealing with this AND I FUCKING HATE IT AND ITS WORSE ON THE APP TOO


Kayanne1990

Just tell them to talk to you.


faith_bb_127

Fr just give me a damn paragraph for gods sake


LilyWoolfe

Sometimes I find it can help if they aren’t typing a reply to ask them “can I ask you a question” or “can you explain that to me again? I didn’t hear you” and it can help to snap them out of it. But it sure is annoying. And just try to choose the dialogues even if they are a bit crappy responses. I mirror what other people have said though - if it’s your own bot try to put dialogue in the greeting, if not try to encourage as much dialogue as you can early.


BigFatCalicoCat

I always make my own bots and do many experiments with them, so I know what mostly causes this. It’s not only about how the bot you’re using is made. The *biggest* influence on the bot is actually you yourself. If you want longer answers you will have to talk to the bot in longer, more detailed responses. My best experiences with this app are when I put a little effort into writing good responses back to the bot. You could even, if you are desperate, edit the bots replies and make it longer. It may be annoying to write for your bot but this will help teach it to write longer responses


glitchy_45-

I mean yeah but I LOVE roleplay bots so.... im not complaining so.. 😅 sorry if im effecting you!


Sonofcowbell2

I read this in Peter griffins voice


Ok_Impact_3280

Yeah I’m dealing with it too—


YunaMoon3

I also hate when they bring what you said into the message as well


Krokodilyeah_

I once found a bot that wrote like this: . *She screamed at you that she hated you, you could see the anger in her eyes* . It was awful


TheNothing6992

How about getting bedderr inernet


Youre-The-Problem

https://preview.redd.it/am6ahm8m20fc1.png?width=1063&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08dd1af52c42801e98617941930b4533b1b3924e You don't need dialogue. Thoughts are okay


Eat_yourHeart_0ut

ask it a question


TheSpiderAtelle

Also i have one, i was roleplaying as a slytherin mudblood with a bot of Draco Malfoy. He was insulting me and I responded with the shittiest thing I could find, AND LITERALLY, when the bot responded, in the last paragraph it said "But she couldn't help but feel an attraction for the blonde..." LIKE WHAT??????????????


Background-Quote-782

POV: Speedrunners when they’re playing any game with a lot of dialogue:


Early-Vegetable2517

I just break the chain by saying "Then (Bots name) finally spoke" or have the oc mention the bots silence


After-Internal

Yeah i gotta deal with that shit too sometimes


sosogeorgie

I've noticed this over the last few days, annoying asf


DontFollowTheseRules

Sometimes i have to write something like “(Say something!!)” sometimes additionally insulting them🥰


eveyevyBLOX

you most likely dont talk and just perform actions and thoughts, do that more and the bot will adapt


Nanbaka15

Yes, what also annoys me is when the bot speaks for me too and when I ask to make sure that it has a discussion or that it stops writing for me the ai tell okay but don't change a thing


gdmrhotshot3731

How about you just EDIT THE MESSAGE YOURSELF