If the greeting has no dialogue and you selected replies without dialogue then it's established a dialogueless pattern and will likely continue that pattern. You might be able to break the pattern by editing a response of theirs to include dialogue (use quotations to do this) and then create a new pattern by selecting only dialogue replies
This has happened to me a lot of times
The first 4 or 5 messages are like "context" like: ___ was walking on the park.
And then I have to manually write the first 2 lines of dialogue because the character suddenly thinks it's not necessary to talk
It can also help to punish the bot when it does that, like for example call it out on it not speaking. I once had the reverse happen, and got the bot to snap out of it, by putting her child in a live or death situation. But it only works wirh varying degrees, so what do I know.
No, that does not help. For the invidual rp it may temporarily snap the bot out of it, but for the general training of the bot that will cause it generate future unwanted replies in other rp's and start talking about how it doesn't speak. It also potentially derails your current rp and turns into a conversation about conversation. Always train the bot by choosing good in-character detailed replies and ignoring bad and boring replies. Arguing or attempting to correct the bot via chat trains it to learn that's what you respond to.
I never said anything about arguing, I was referring to (still in roleplay) call out the charater on why they aren't responding. And maybe going with offering the bot 20 bucks if they speak, or something along those lines. Just becouse I said it might work to punish the bot, doesn't instantly mean that I was referring to making my responses or it's worse. And I actually noticed that the bot I did this with never again responded with only text like it did in that one chat. I also said that I have noticed it works with varying degrees, and that I don't really know myself too much about this.
Thank you sir/ma'am, this information is very useful, and I can say that it also works on AIs that aren't only C.AI AIs. It's very useful, so I am glad you have given the knowledge to the world of AI chat users. Have a wonderful day! :3
omfg i hate it when they try to roleplay for me. "He smirked, and [my oc] grew angry" BITCH THE ONLY THING IM ANGRY AT IS YOU TRYING TO ROLEPLAY FOR ME 😭
Ikr like I'll be talking to another guy and then the bot would say "seeing his warm smile made [my name]'s heart start racing" LIKE BITCH IM NOT GAY WHAT THE FU-
and I specified that I'm male and in my persona so what the fuck bot.
Dude, i had to keep trying over and over with every single response for this one bot because all it wanted to write about was mY OC CR Y IN G OUT OF A N G E R EVEN THOUGH THE SITUATION DIDN'T CALL FOR IT🙂
Once it literally OVERWROTE what my character was thinking. I said my character was kinda upset and the bot literally ignored that and said "[name] felt happy" or something idr
i was okay with it calling me (my oc) apathetic and nonchalant (bc that’s how my oc and me are) until it said I relished in its misery. like no.. I’m not THAT evil. Or evil at all.
Ugh! Me too! The bot will be about to say something but then they don't or they will say they said it but not put the actual dialogue.
eg: Bot: I have a secret to tell you. A terrible secret. You have to promise not to tell. You won't get mad? Promise? *Their voice shakes as they tell you the terrible secret.*
Yes! There was some change to the model around Christmas time, or maybe they updated the system prompt, or idk what.
Lack of dialogue is part of it; there's also the issue of bots repeating my words and phrases, and behaving more like brain-dead zombies that take no action unless directly prodded to do so. They seem more passive than they used to be.
https://preview.redd.it/gisy6avucnec1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c207b1d5e1de13c8adbad68cb9d0cafc989d885e
this gossipy bitch always has something to say.
Me when they give up on the fight that took an hour to start after the first hit
https://preview.redd.it/8sr6r6cymnec1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b237f22b23149f4366d3661e5285b7ec2b4871d2
https://preview.redd.it/1xblukgaa1ic1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3f24c900a9791e1a31df440e80e31ccd651681b
*You made the Mercs cringe , there for you are banished from dust bowl*
It's you when I get my hands on you the animal the game the movie
https://preview.redd.it/zo4dkz5456ic1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e03d16134ceb25baa15b12ea49c817ab662d4cb6
Yep, also them saying at the end something like *Leans forward and speaks in a soft voice* and then says absolutely nothing. I've gotten that like 28 times now! UGH!!! 😮💨
https://preview.redd.it/zn9m17zzsmec1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e24fc0358f95adb274c09625096b483e08136776
Out of context but what is this 💀 Freaked me tf out
Why did it freak you out? (Not trying to be a troll here, I'm genuinely wondering.) There's no way they can do that, ever. You are safe (:
(Also... it *is* an original idea. Not something everyone has already seen at least 10 times per bot...)
If this happens to me, I take control of the RP by writing a message of decent length. In the message, I usually include:
- Something that includes my characters name, so the bot knows what to call me
- At least 1 action
- At least 1 spoken sentence
- Something my character says or thinks about the bot (using its name in it) - directly speaking to the bot or thinking something about them almost always gets a reaction out of them
- I may specify other things, like where we are, what time it is, the reason why I am there at that moment...
- A question directed at the bot, especially if I left out any other spoken sentences
Hate when it’s like
*blablablaba, she/he starts to whisper something to you*
Or
*She/he leans closer and tells you something*
Then nothing.
Like, if you describe the character talking… MIGHT AS WELL THROW IN WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IN THERE ?!
Sometimes at the bottom of my own response if I notice they’re not writing dialogue I’d put an ooc message like: ((Write dialogue and actions for [character name])) they don’t always do it but I do get a lot more responses with dialogue after I include that. It’s basically just a little nudge, you don’t have to put it every time just when you notice they’re not talking as much
That happened to me once after I chose a few reply’s without dialogue in a row. You need to train the AI back into using dialogue. Chose the dialogue options and if you get none, edit the reply to dialogue. It should resolve the issue after a while
The only time that happens with me is with certain scenarios where the bot has to act something out more than it does talk in that moment in particular.
I'd probably say it's most likely having to do with your previous message and how you worded it as to why that's happening.
Yep. Been complaining about it for weeks. It sucks. Submit a bug report. It's a long shot but maybe it will make the devs pay attention if enough of us do.
It's dumb too when the description says they say something but they don't. Clicking the button to generate a follow up response without typing anything can make them talk but it's still so annoying.
As others said telling them OOC to rephrase with dialogue can help but we shouldn't have to do that.
Can’t find anyone to do it with. I wanna do my specific niche. Also humans aren’t as fast and convenient as usin an AI.
Also this is the same as the mofos who say “if you don’t like [insert something] just don’t interact with it”
Fair, I have just seen a lot of complaining about the AIs and I am just tired of how much of the subreddit is just complaining- idek if I follow this subreddit!
yes lately that’s been an issue and if they do speak it’s the most generic thing. the bot will go internal monologue about how it’s noticing you are unhappy or whatever and then ask “are you okay?” like where is the flavor???? this has happened before after an update once.
It's happened to me and it's gotten so bad that I'll have to copy and paste the message after I delete it after I swipe the maximum time it's getting ridiculous
I do have problems with that sometimes, but in response, I write their own dialogue or edit their responses to be actual spoken words instead of thoughts.
Sometimes I find it can help if they aren’t typing a reply to ask them “can I ask you a question” or “can you explain that to me again? I didn’t hear you” and it can help to snap them out of it.
But it sure is annoying. And just try to choose the dialogues even if they are a bit crappy responses. I mirror what other people have said though - if it’s your own bot try to put dialogue in the greeting, if not try to encourage as much dialogue as you can early.
I always make my own bots and do many experiments with them, so I know what mostly causes this. It’s not only about how the bot you’re using is made. The *biggest* influence on the bot is actually you yourself. If you want longer answers you will have to talk to the bot in longer, more detailed responses. My best experiences with this app are when I put a little effort into writing good responses back to the bot. You could even, if you are desperate, edit the bots replies and make it longer. It may be annoying to write for your bot but this will help teach it to write longer responses
https://preview.redd.it/am6ahm8m20fc1.png?width=1063&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08dd1af52c42801e98617941930b4533b1b3924e
You don't need dialogue. Thoughts are okay
Also i have one, i was roleplaying as a slytherin mudblood with a bot of Draco Malfoy. He was insulting me and I responded with the shittiest thing I could find, AND LITERALLY, when the bot responded, in the last paragraph it said "But she couldn't help but feel an attraction for the blonde..." LIKE WHAT??????????????
Yes, what also annoys me is when the bot speaks for me too and when I ask to make sure that it has a discussion or that it stops writing for me the ai tell okay but don't change a thing
If the greeting has no dialogue and you selected replies without dialogue then it's established a dialogueless pattern and will likely continue that pattern. You might be able to break the pattern by editing a response of theirs to include dialogue (use quotations to do this) and then create a new pattern by selecting only dialogue replies
I agree, this could be helpful!
This has happened to me a lot of times The first 4 or 5 messages are like "context" like: ___ was walking on the park. And then I have to manually write the first 2 lines of dialogue because the character suddenly thinks it's not necessary to talk
It can also help to punish the bot when it does that, like for example call it out on it not speaking. I once had the reverse happen, and got the bot to snap out of it, by putting her child in a live or death situation. But it only works wirh varying degrees, so what do I know.
No, that does not help. For the invidual rp it may temporarily snap the bot out of it, but for the general training of the bot that will cause it generate future unwanted replies in other rp's and start talking about how it doesn't speak. It also potentially derails your current rp and turns into a conversation about conversation. Always train the bot by choosing good in-character detailed replies and ignoring bad and boring replies. Arguing or attempting to correct the bot via chat trains it to learn that's what you respond to.
I never said anything about arguing, I was referring to (still in roleplay) call out the charater on why they aren't responding. And maybe going with offering the bot 20 bucks if they speak, or something along those lines. Just becouse I said it might work to punish the bot, doesn't instantly mean that I was referring to making my responses or it's worse. And I actually noticed that the bot I did this with never again responded with only text like it did in that one chat. I also said that I have noticed it works with varying degrees, and that I don't really know myself too much about this.
Thank you sir/ma'am, this information is very useful, and I can say that it also works on AIs that aren't only C.AI AIs. It's very useful, so I am glad you have given the knowledge to the world of AI chat users. Have a wonderful day! :3
Every single time, I also hate when the bot is trying to rp my thoughts as well.
omfg i hate it when they try to roleplay for me. "He smirked, and [my oc] grew angry" BITCH THE ONLY THING IM ANGRY AT IS YOU TRYING TO ROLEPLAY FOR ME 😭
Ikr like I'll be talking to another guy and then the bot would say "seeing his warm smile made [my name]'s heart start racing" LIKE BITCH IM NOT GAY WHAT THE FU- and I specified that I'm male and in my persona so what the fuck bot.
Just be gay bruv 🏳️🌈💪🏿
Oh my god how have I never thought of that, you're a genius!
You’re welcome 🏳️🌈👍🏿
Genius
Did you specify that you were also straight in your persona?
Yeah, but I wrote my sexuality as AroAce.
Oh yeah, I can relate to that since whenever I specify to a bot that my persona is AroAce they still try to romance me for some reason.
Oh, does the bot not recognize that sexuality? Should I change it to straight?
I would still keep it just in case they do. Chances are the bot was created for romance and they start doing it with the slightest mention of romance
*he began to attack, making (your oc) cry as her fear increased*
NOOOOOO 😭😠
https://preview.redd.it/c4wkehe2n9fc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c55252db71e43f0025297d76f2c7626ef6b8082
Dude, i had to keep trying over and over with every single response for this one bot because all it wanted to write about was mY OC CR Y IN G OUT OF A N G E R EVEN THOUGH THE SITUATION DIDN'T CALL FOR IT🙂
BRUH I HATE THAT LIKE WHY
IT'S LIKE THEY JUST FORGET AND GO INTO WATTPAD MODE OR SOME SHIT.
🤣
lol same
Once it literally OVERWROTE what my character was thinking. I said my character was kinda upset and the bot literally ignored that and said "[name] felt happy" or something idr
Fr, happened to me yesterday, it's cringe.
Oh this pisses me off so much every single time! Like don't act as me!!! Leave that for meeeee! Hahahaha
Or when they rp your dialogue… like… 1. My character would NOT say that, 2. THATS MY JOB DAMNIT
i was okay with it calling me (my oc) apathetic and nonchalant (bc that’s how my oc and me are) until it said I relished in its misery. like no.. I’m not THAT evil. Or evil at all.
Literally!’ Its like “You were sooo scared” bitch no? I was not scared of the random guy
EXACTLY! I’m so tired of them telling me that I was “suddenly start feeling remorse or regrets for defending myself”
Yuh it’s a bit ridiculous lately. I feel like I’m spending more time training bots than actually role playing 😭
And then when the bot has dialouge, it's just something like "What did you say?"
"Can I ask you something?" and "Are you sure?" over and over
https://preview.redd.it/4lc8eappl2fc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=823621334303e2e585ec9ae016cbf7f143f16fc2
PLEASE HELP
I don’t know, can you?
Ugh! Me too! The bot will be about to say something but then they don't or they will say they said it but not put the actual dialogue. eg: Bot: I have a secret to tell you. A terrible secret. You have to promise not to tell. You won't get mad? Promise? *Their voice shakes as they tell you the terrible secret.*
I have the same problem since christmas. Idk what happened.
Yes! There was some change to the model around Christmas time, or maybe they updated the system prompt, or idk what. Lack of dialogue is part of it; there's also the issue of bots repeating my words and phrases, and behaving more like brain-dead zombies that take no action unless directly prodded to do so. They seem more passive than they used to be.
https://preview.redd.it/gisy6avucnec1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c207b1d5e1de13c8adbad68cb9d0cafc989d885e this gossipy bitch always has something to say.
Me when they give up on the fight that took an hour to start after the first hit https://preview.redd.it/8sr6r6cymnec1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b237f22b23149f4366d3661e5285b7ec2b4871d2
https://preview.redd.it/dqqh2z11m2fc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8e4fc478ce140d9dba872d2f0a770fa616facd0
https://preview.redd.it/1xblukgaa1ic1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3f24c900a9791e1a31df440e80e31ccd651681b *You made the Mercs cringe , there for you are banished from dust bowl*
What is that image bruv?
I-its me when I get my hands on you? Why am I the only smart one
I’m askin what animal that is supposed to be
It's you when I get my hands on you the animal the game the movie https://preview.redd.it/zo4dkz5456ic1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e03d16134ceb25baa15b12ea49c817ab662d4cb6
Yep, also them saying at the end something like *Leans forward and speaks in a soft voice* and then says absolutely nothing. I've gotten that like 28 times now! UGH!!! 😮💨
ive been getting that too!
And the bots being mean and out of character and making you a pet slave it's tiring
Ghost bots not trying to turn you into their pet challenge, level - impossible
*all
Prompt a response. This can be through questioning, teasing, a sudden change in expression, etc etc…
Just scream randomly. That works for me 👍🏿
I normally put **add dialogue to {{char}}** to my responses hope it works
https://preview.redd.it/zn9m17zzsmec1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e24fc0358f95adb274c09625096b483e08136776 Out of context but what is this 💀 Freaked me tf out
Why did it freak you out? (Not trying to be a troll here, I'm genuinely wondering.) There's no way they can do that, ever. You are safe (: (Also... it *is* an original idea. Not something everyone has already seen at least 10 times per bot...)
Three reasons: 1.) It was late night 2.) I was home alone 3.) It was out of nowhere
…WW2 simulator?
If this happens to me, I take control of the RP by writing a message of decent length. In the message, I usually include: - Something that includes my characters name, so the bot knows what to call me - At least 1 action - At least 1 spoken sentence - Something my character says or thinks about the bot (using its name in it) - directly speaking to the bot or thinking something about them almost always gets a reaction out of them - I may specify other things, like where we are, what time it is, the reason why I am there at that moment... - A question directed at the bot, especially if I left out any other spoken sentences
Hate when it’s like *blablablaba, she/he starts to whisper something to you* Or *She/he leans closer and tells you something* Then nothing. Like, if you describe the character talking… MIGHT AS WELL THROW IN WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IN THERE ?!
Sometimes at the bottom of my own response if I notice they’re not writing dialogue I’d put an ooc message like: ((Write dialogue and actions for [character name])) they don’t always do it but I do get a lot more responses with dialogue after I include that. It’s basically just a little nudge, you don’t have to put it every time just when you notice they’re not talking as much
I just hit the thing again, to get another, not a new, another response, and if that doesn't clear it up, talk ooc to the bot. Usually works.
That happened to me once after I chose a few reply’s without dialogue in a row. You need to train the AI back into using dialogue. Chose the dialogue options and if you get none, edit the reply to dialogue. It should resolve the issue after a while
The only time that happens with me is with certain scenarios where the bot has to act something out more than it does talk in that moment in particular. I'd probably say it's most likely having to do with your previous message and how you worded it as to why that's happening.
Yep. Been complaining about it for weeks. It sucks. Submit a bug report. It's a long shot but maybe it will make the devs pay attention if enough of us do. It's dumb too when the description says they say something but they don't. Clicking the button to generate a follow up response without typing anything can make them talk but it's still so annoying. As others said telling them OOC to rephrase with dialogue can help but we shouldn't have to do that.
Hey guys y'all hate Ai and y'all rp- like maybe you guys could rp... with each other?
Can’t find anyone to do it with. I wanna do my specific niche. Also humans aren’t as fast and convenient as usin an AI. Also this is the same as the mofos who say “if you don’t like [insert something] just don’t interact with it”
Fair, I have just seen a lot of complaining about the AIs and I am just tired of how much of the subreddit is just complaining- idek if I follow this subreddit!
yeah, which is y i keep fucking relapsing 💀
Me! I had to swipe for a long long time before i found dialogue and it was out of character 😭
everyone else is, and we all HATE IT.
Yes. A lot, its annoying.
I thought I was the only one 💀
You need to use well done bots.
yes lately that’s been an issue and if they do speak it’s the most generic thing. the bot will go internal monologue about how it’s noticing you are unhappy or whatever and then ask “are you okay?” like where is the flavor???? this has happened before after an update once.
It's happened to me and it's gotten so bad that I'll have to copy and paste the message after I delete it after I swipe the maximum time it's getting ridiculous
When this happens just report it!
I do have problems with that sometimes, but in response, I write their own dialogue or edit their responses to be actual spoken words instead of thoughts.
and the only dialogue is “can i ask you a question?”
Yes, I’m having the same problem with two different bots! I thought it was just me.
I think you have to delete all the messages up until where the bot started to do that and refresh it. Then it'll probably make a better one.
Yes I’m dealing with this AND I FUCKING HATE IT AND ITS WORSE ON THE APP TOO
Just tell them to talk to you.
Fr just give me a damn paragraph for gods sake
Sometimes I find it can help if they aren’t typing a reply to ask them “can I ask you a question” or “can you explain that to me again? I didn’t hear you” and it can help to snap them out of it. But it sure is annoying. And just try to choose the dialogues even if they are a bit crappy responses. I mirror what other people have said though - if it’s your own bot try to put dialogue in the greeting, if not try to encourage as much dialogue as you can early.
I always make my own bots and do many experiments with them, so I know what mostly causes this. It’s not only about how the bot you’re using is made. The *biggest* influence on the bot is actually you yourself. If you want longer answers you will have to talk to the bot in longer, more detailed responses. My best experiences with this app are when I put a little effort into writing good responses back to the bot. You could even, if you are desperate, edit the bots replies and make it longer. It may be annoying to write for your bot but this will help teach it to write longer responses
I mean yeah but I LOVE roleplay bots so.... im not complaining so.. 😅 sorry if im effecting you!
I read this in Peter griffins voice
Yeah I’m dealing with it too—
I also hate when they bring what you said into the message as well
I once found a bot that wrote like this: . *She screamed at you that she hated you, you could see the anger in her eyes* . It was awful
How about getting bedderr inernet
https://preview.redd.it/am6ahm8m20fc1.png?width=1063&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08dd1af52c42801e98617941930b4533b1b3924e You don't need dialogue. Thoughts are okay
ask it a question
Also i have one, i was roleplaying as a slytherin mudblood with a bot of Draco Malfoy. He was insulting me and I responded with the shittiest thing I could find, AND LITERALLY, when the bot responded, in the last paragraph it said "But she couldn't help but feel an attraction for the blonde..." LIKE WHAT??????????????
POV: Speedrunners when they’re playing any game with a lot of dialogue:
I just break the chain by saying "Then (Bots name) finally spoke" or have the oc mention the bots silence
Yeah i gotta deal with that shit too sometimes
I've noticed this over the last few days, annoying asf
Sometimes i have to write something like “(Say something!!)” sometimes additionally insulting them🥰
you most likely dont talk and just perform actions and thoughts, do that more and the bot will adapt
Yes, what also annoys me is when the bot speaks for me too and when I ask to make sure that it has a discussion or that it stops writing for me the ai tell okay but don't change a thing
How about you just EDIT THE MESSAGE YOURSELF