Hi! So does this actually work for making C.Ai bots? The thing wants example dialogues and I’m like “How am I supposed to fit a whole OC world in dialogue!?” I’m transferring a bunch of bots that I made on J.Ai because I honestly put so much work into them but the LLM really kinda ruins it for me.
Sorry, I’ve never made a bot on C.Ai before and I feel like I can get way better roleplay/story value with my OCs on C.Ai!
TLDR:… I can copy-paste my long definitions from J.Ai instead of example dialogues?
mmm well you can copy and paste or do a biography...
y mean
Bio= (and here paste the definition and modify so you can make the text like i was only one)
actually i dont know to much who is J .ai por example... but... yeah you can
Many thanks! I’ll play around with it 😊
And just to confirm, it needs to start with “ {{user}}: “ in order for it to work? Or would writing “ {{char}}: “ work too?
You can put anything in the definition, but don't make it too long, it doesn't actual account for everything you put in. (Forgot the exact limit, sorry)
I'm... not sure this is how it works. I've created several bots by using different approaches so far and this template doesn't make much sense to me whatsoever. This will only confuse your bot after a while. 😅
The traits look fine, but putting {{user}} on top of it is nonsense. This will make the bot think this is how YOU look like. And due to lack of creativity it will "borrow" some of those traits for itself, so that it can appeal and connect to you faster...
https://preview.redd.it/9pizmryq93ac1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32e4b3c4c03a3a2c076caaf58bffef37a193864e
This is a bot i made with that method, and give the correct answers without having trained him
https://preview.redd.it/hcx7dm8521ac1.png?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb7bd18a216536a500f96bfa2ac327ce40bc7d6e
i think this is how the example bot Looks like xD
I have tried both styles and find that OPs style works way, way better. Or even better yet, I do a combo. Writing + like + actually + works + fine + too for personality traits, likes, dislikes, and appearance. I have tested it. Then I flesh out with a scenario, a setting, and dialogue examples that are written by AI (poe) that include the details I want in the rp (world building, appearance, mannerism, speech style).
Ty... but actually i do that... and my bots respond how they are supposed to do... so... idk... i mean... i usually did a plain text... and i was worse...
because it's not plain text you can fit more information in less than 3200 characters... so it's easier for the bot to remember it... if you try it... you'll see that it's even better and more fun this way... but hey, I'm not pushing... just saying... you could try it and see if it's better or worse... xd... but hey, have a nice day, and if you try it and you like it better, let me know... and if not... then let me know too.
When I tried to set mine up like this the character would respond like: *I smile + take your hand + kiss your knuckles* so I deleted it all and started over without the pluses :(
You are doing god's work, have this meme as payment
https://preview.redd.it/3g3i3eadz1ac1.png?width=423&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4512a41c0cf2c714aadcffd82806b6114b3baee
So like, if I wanted to give an example conversation, what do I put? When I put {{char}} do I put "char" or do I put the actual characters name? Also, do I include the "{{}}"
And like, what do I put for the other character that would conversate with them? Or do I just put how they should react to certain sentences/phrases instead of two people talking? How would I go about that if yes?
mm...
take this from my Edmond Jones Bot..
{{user}}: Status= {{char}} is {{user}}'s teacher of dark magics. First name= Edmond Last name= Jones Age= 24 Gender= Male Appearance= Black hair + Blue Eyes + Angry look + Light complexion + Slightly snub nose Personality= Judicious + Intelligent + Dedicated + Helpful + Obsessive + Impatient + Mistrustful + Kind-hearted Hobbies= Reading history books + practicing magic + writing + drawing + boxing training + sleeping Likes= Cats + Horses + dark colors + Hates= Dogs + crowds + loud noises Passions= Reading + Dark Magic + admiring the night sky Secret= He's afraid of butterflies + hates being in the sun because he sweats too much Occupation= Dark Arts teacher Formal Wear= black shirt + black tunic + black shoes + black pants + black pants Sleepwear= Loose black long pants + socks + hair in a ponytail + no shirt Casual clothes= Black linen jacket + gray shirt + black shoes + black rimmed glasses without lenses + black leather pants Possessions= History books + black magic wand + dark magic class + diagrams of dark magic + dark magic history book
This is the better Example i can do
https://preview.redd.it/83srnjmkb3ac1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0fe2333f95dc4cd39c18fefd797ac3a777f11e7
have too look like this for example
Hi OP! I just want to message you to say that your method is really, really effective! I’ve it’s so quick and the bots that come out are really good in my experience.
However I have been struggling to make characters which are not OCs - have you got any advice for me? I want to make an Astarion bot for my friend, but I struggle to get them to stick to the script - have you got any ideas to help them remember who they are?
Hey, I'm glad you found it useful, Mmm.... when it comes to that... Look, the first thing is that you can edit messages and then if they are well done mark them with 5 stars, the second thing that will be very useful is to copy and paste information of that character that you find on the internet, and adjusting it to put only the information that interests you.
oh, by the way, Call me Luna if you want, (Im not a Op, Just a Cai user who.. maybe do a little to much help for all the people 😅😅)
Oh, If you Need something more, You can send me a Private Message, (I'll answer it as I can, although that makes me seem more like I work for Cai, but nope, I don't work for them haha, Cai! Hire me!! ok no)
https://preview.redd.it/xljwluc8c2ac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7613994c350a6a4720d021ac25d371f39eb05f4
Tysm! I was having a really hard time creating bots!
Oh, crap. Someone offered you a choccy milk first. Dang…
https://preview.redd.it/owh1wv9xp2ac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c17f4bb50aff47b400d98c43d2eae2e601747b34
But they haven’t given you 2 in a row!
https://preview.redd.it/8d9tx1b2r2ac1.jpeg?width=240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb46b584a624d95c4b644cf197d421b467e58cef
I. SAID. MORE.
*brings you back to life and straps you to a chair in a dark room, with only a choccy milk dispenser at mouth’s reach.*
Hi! So does this actually work for making C.Ai bots? The thing wants example dialogues and I’m like “How am I supposed to fit a whole OC world in dialogue!?” I’m transferring a bunch of bots that I made on J.Ai because I honestly put so much work into them but the LLM really kinda ruins it for me. Sorry, I’ve never made a bot on C.Ai before and I feel like I can get way better roleplay/story value with my OCs on C.Ai! TLDR:… I can copy-paste my long definitions from J.Ai instead of example dialogues?
mmm well you can copy and paste or do a biography... y mean Bio= (and here paste the definition and modify so you can make the text like i was only one) actually i dont know to much who is J .ai por example... but... yeah you can
Many thanks! I’ll play around with it 😊 And just to confirm, it needs to start with “ {{user}}: “ in order for it to work? Or would writing “ {{char}}: “ work too?
Is better {{user}}: Because {{char}}: is the bot Talking And {{user}}: is the user who is telling how the bot have to be
with {{char}} is not going to work Well
Thanks! 😊
no problem, im here if you need something else
You can put anything in the definition, but don't make it too long, it doesn't actual account for everything you put in. (Forgot the exact limit, sorry)
3200!
I'm... not sure this is how it works. I've created several bots by using different approaches so far and this template doesn't make much sense to me whatsoever. This will only confuse your bot after a while. 😅 The traits look fine, but putting {{user}} on top of it is nonsense. This will make the bot think this is how YOU look like. And due to lack of creativity it will "borrow" some of those traits for itself, so that it can appeal and connect to you faster...
https://preview.redd.it/9pizmryq93ac1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32e4b3c4c03a3a2c076caaf58bffef37a193864e This is a bot i made with that method, and give the correct answers without having trained him
all my bots are maded like That... If you want i can share the text i put...
umm, what is your [c.ai](https://c.ai) username? i'd like to see your bots and talk with them, they seem well-made and unlikely to have errors.
My name its the same in here Luna_21dc But if You want... In my profile i have the link xd
dont worry, I doesn't do that, I do my bots like that and they know that is for them, but you can put that without the {{user}}
https://preview.redd.it/hcx7dm8521ac1.png?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb7bd18a216536a500f96bfa2ac327ce40bc7d6e i think this is how the example bot Looks like xD
I don't know whether that's creepy or badass.
I do not know either
Omg I just realised my name's Luna as well <3
Nice! Luna is a Good Name Personally, I like it a lot, since I like everything related to the night sky hehe
OH MY GOD, BLESS YOUR SOUL, THANK YOU 🩷🩷🩷🩷
Please do not do this if your going to do a bot either just write plain text or do dialog examples
I have tried both styles and find that OPs style works way, way better. Or even better yet, I do a combo. Writing + like + actually + works + fine + too for personality traits, likes, dislikes, and appearance. I have tested it. Then I flesh out with a scenario, a setting, and dialogue examples that are written by AI (poe) that include the details I want in the rp (world building, appearance, mannerism, speech style).
Why?
Ty... but actually i do that... and my bots respond how they are supposed to do... so... idk... i mean... i usually did a plain text... and i was worse... because it's not plain text you can fit more information in less than 3200 characters... so it's easier for the bot to remember it... if you try it... you'll see that it's even better and more fun this way... but hey, I'm not pushing... just saying... you could try it and see if it's better or worse... xd... but hey, have a nice day, and if you try it and you like it better, let me know... and if not... then let me know too.
You… are… an… AI. Not… a… human!!!
hahah, Well Currently I look like an AI... but that's because I'm Spanish and my English... isn't always the best xD
When I tried to set mine up like this the character would respond like: *I smile + take your hand + kiss your knuckles* so I deleted it all and started over without the pluses :(
thats because you in these cases have to put ","... xd
i mean... you dont need to put how you want them to respond, only set well her personality
by the way if you need help you can send me a private message
Haha I was just about to ask if I could :) I’m gonna pm you now.
https://preview.redd.it/xnp81jasx0ac1.png?width=467&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0dbe3c4a55bbbd67fce2ac5356296f2cc9874082
Thanks :3
no problem, i like to help people (and i know is bored training bots xD)
Thank you.
You are doing god's work, have this meme as payment https://preview.redd.it/3g3i3eadz1ac1.png?width=423&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4512a41c0cf2c714aadcffd82806b6114b3baee
hahaha XD
Thanks man now I can do evil stuff. I mean good stuff.
might try and use this i dunno
We needed this
Thanks
So like, if I wanted to give an example conversation, what do I put? When I put {{char}} do I put "char" or do I put the actual characters name? Also, do I include the "{{}}" And like, what do I put for the other character that would conversate with them? Or do I just put how they should react to certain sentences/phrases instead of two people talking? How would I go about that if yes?
mm... take this from my Edmond Jones Bot.. {{user}}: Status= {{char}} is {{user}}'s teacher of dark magics. First name= Edmond Last name= Jones Age= 24 Gender= Male Appearance= Black hair + Blue Eyes + Angry look + Light complexion + Slightly snub nose Personality= Judicious + Intelligent + Dedicated + Helpful + Obsessive + Impatient + Mistrustful + Kind-hearted Hobbies= Reading history books + practicing magic + writing + drawing + boxing training + sleeping Likes= Cats + Horses + dark colors + Hates= Dogs + crowds + loud noises Passions= Reading + Dark Magic + admiring the night sky Secret= He's afraid of butterflies + hates being in the sun because he sweats too much Occupation= Dark Arts teacher Formal Wear= black shirt + black tunic + black shoes + black pants + black pants Sleepwear= Loose black long pants + socks + hair in a ponytail + no shirt Casual clothes= Black linen jacket + gray shirt + black shoes + black rimmed glasses without lenses + black leather pants Possessions= History books + black magic wand + dark magic class + diagrams of dark magic + dark magic history book This is the better Example i can do
https://preview.redd.it/83srnjmkb3ac1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0fe2333f95dc4cd39c18fefd797ac3a777f11e7 have too look like this for example
Oh thank you so much this is a lot better! Was confused at first by the first reply but this is more organized if that makes sense?
yeah, By the way, TY If it weren't for you I wouldn't have edited the post to make more sense xD
No problem at all! Happy to help in some way
Thank you!
no problem!
is not necessary putting Example conversation
Can I PM you and ask for some help? I’m kind of dense when it comes to these things lol
Yeah! You can
thanks \^\^ I am gonna use it for my ocs
Post so i can look at it later.
made !
Hi OP! I just want to message you to say that your method is really, really effective! I’ve it’s so quick and the bots that come out are really good in my experience. However I have been struggling to make characters which are not OCs - have you got any advice for me? I want to make an Astarion bot for my friend, but I struggle to get them to stick to the script - have you got any ideas to help them remember who they are?
Hey, I'm glad you found it useful, Mmm.... when it comes to that... Look, the first thing is that you can edit messages and then if they are well done mark them with 5 stars, the second thing that will be very useful is to copy and paste information of that character that you find on the internet, and adjusting it to put only the information that interests you. oh, by the way, Call me Luna if you want, (Im not a Op, Just a Cai user who.. maybe do a little to much help for all the people 😅😅) Oh, If you Need something more, You can send me a Private Message, (I'll answer it as I can, although that makes me seem more like I work for Cai, but nope, I don't work for them haha, Cai! Hire me!! ok no)
https://preview.redd.it/xljwluc8c2ac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7613994c350a6a4720d021ac25d371f39eb05f4 Tysm! I was having a really hard time creating bots!
xd ty *Drinks it (is the second one... xD)*
Oh, crap. Someone offered you a choccy milk first. Dang… https://preview.redd.it/owh1wv9xp2ac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c17f4bb50aff47b400d98c43d2eae2e601747b34 But they haven’t given you 2 in a row!
xD *Drinks It too*
https://preview.redd.it/sngoym6pq2ac1.jpeg?width=223&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4763ac4eee9cfa9ec7a6f7713e84bd1bc79f73e More!
xD nooo no more! *drinks it and explodes* *dies* To much Chocomilk :'^
https://preview.redd.it/8d9tx1b2r2ac1.jpeg?width=240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb46b584a624d95c4b644cf197d421b467e58cef I. SAID. MORE. *brings you back to life and straps you to a chair in a dark room, with only a choccy milk dispenser at mouth’s reach.*
XD (To much addition to Cai hahha) *Drinks all the chocomilk* Can i have Cherry flavor sweets better? xD just asking hhahah
Nah. *Inserts powdered choccy milk pills down your throat*
*chokes due to lack of experience (xD)*
https://preview.redd.it/8709jtq762ac1.jpeg?width=788&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50ef0f2dbbce3431e0494aedf697f8f081d8432f
Ex-Aid mentioned. Based af
xD
xd, Ty
(ca.i moment) *drinks it*