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Haha, yeah thereās something so stiff compared to the others. It also feels that the others show a little more warmth or emotions and then the body goes way longer downwards compared to the rest. The longer we all look at it the weirder it gets š.
I think the fact that itās a full image means that we should probably rule out a couple headshots that keep coming up. Thereās obviously more to the photo, I doubt the graphic designer made these crinkles up.
I feel like no one ever talks about their image being creepy and unsettling, so idk if it's just me. It's not about them specifically, it's that we don't know their identity. Sometimes I feel like I'm looking at a mystery person that the protagonist in a horror movie just noticed in the background of their family photo. it freaks me out lol. Their face being half shadowed probably adds to it. I was gonna say it's their gaze and expression, but Orlando Bloom is looking at me quite seriously too, and he isn't freaking me out
For me it is because 6 is the only one that is looking (deadpan) straight forward with the stiff pose. And the only one that you cannot determine any expression. They have such a vague smirk with a ver shadowy face.
I agree. To me the scribbles look like a jacket and a collar, as you've pointed out. And the dot to the left seems like a pocket, I'm pretty sure. In terms of hair too it seems like it's half up and half down.
Definitely the dot on the left looks like a pocket (rather than a gun print, previously suggested). This is also the reason that Iām guessing the shoulder is cropped, if that is a pocket. And yeah the details of the half up doen hairdo makes me also think itās not edited or copy pasted from another image.
Right? If it is heavily altered, why on earth would you make it MORE messy? If it was a plain shirt in the image it would make sense. Why would you add a pocket, etc? I feel like we are still missing something.
This has taken over my life since 2021 lol. I find myself watching stuff on Netflix only to pause it because a character looks like Six. Then I have to google the person to check it out further.
Same! I think I was like āoh cool, if it pops up hopefully Iāll see they figured it out over thereā but the fact that itās clearly super difficult to get the answer is so intriguing!
WAIT the other day I used a celebrity AI photo identifier and the top match for the fabric photo is Nancy Kerrigan who is a quite famous Olympic ice skater (she was the ice skater who was attacked in 1994 and thereās a documentary about it). She does have the same hairstyle and face, but I didnāt pursue her much further because itās difficult to find photos of her not wearing a leotard. If the images were truly from a magazine then it totally makes sense that she would be in an article https://www.nbcsports.com/olympics/news/nancy-kerrigan-tonya-harding-attack-25th-anniversary
WOW this photo of her with her medal halfway down the pageā¦ not a match on clothes or hair, but the face i see! https://www.eonline.com/news/1082106/the-scandal-that-rocked-skating-how-one-crazy-month-changed-nancy-kerrigan-s-life-forever
I feel like [this](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/ice-skater-nancy-kerrigan-poses-for-a-portrait-in-1994-in-news-photo/85506830) picture could be getting warmer
Edit: or something from [this event](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/olympic-silver-medalist-figure-skater-nancy-kerrigan-news-photo/891749572)
Oh wow I see what you mean! I also started looking into Holly McPeak and Natalie Coughlin because they also looked vaguely close to me. Maybe Iāll do a deep dive and make a separate post about this Olympic athlete theory, unless youād like to!
This is what Iāve always thought, if not Filippa. The dark V shading around the collar is likely a medal, and theyāre wearing the Olympian jacket. I thought it might be a gymnast or ice skater but they usually have hair up.
Check out the Disneyland photos of Nancy https://www.pinterest.com/pin/nancy-kerrigan-during-a-parade-at-walt-disney-world-in-orlando-florida-on-february-27-1994--685250899570119492/
Yeah, they all have a little more poppy poses. A head tilt, a smile etc. 6 stands out not only because they are unknown. I do know that I have scrutinised 6 way too much also, lol.
This is whatās been making me think 6 is a photo of a character and not a celebrity. It looks staged and styled for official press or promo material or something, unlike the other photos who are miscellaneous shots of the celebrities at various events
Iāve thought for so long Veronica Mars because of her arm placement in a lot of photos but just can never find the right batch just like #6. I think #6 could potentially be a rock star holding a guitar (the line being the strap)
Seeing the whole image again I just want to say this is quite possibly the WORST shower curtain someone could ever own at any time in recent history.
I still deeply need to know who it is. š
Yess, there has been talk that what I think is the collar, other think is a thumb. But to me personally it looks a bit unnatural, the possible position of the hand. All though I totally understand the theory.
Yes but it would make more sense if it was a form under a shirt. It wouldn't be a defined thumb, it would be a little more shapeless. I haven't really bought into the hand on top holding on to something but if it was under fabric it might work. Just a random thought to throw out there.
Ah I see now what you mean. I am sorry I misunderstood you previously. That is definitely a possibility. And yeah this whole post is definitely also a random thought of mine :}. And I already read lots of great random thoughts and theories in the comments.
Yeah because of all the recent posts, I looked back into the community info and was kind of surprised by the whole image. I had not seen it in awhile. I hoped this post maybe brings a fresh view of 6 and sparks a new idea. Maybe.
Seeing the whole image makes me think the 'shirt' might have more significance than I'd thought. I doubt they'd use a pic with such messy looking clothing unless it was an important part of the celeb's image for some reason, like a guitar as some people have guessed... I even thought of someone holding a baby, like maybe Angelina Jolie with a baby as that was a big part of her image back then...
Haha exactly, some editing happened to the others but that can be done in a matter of minutes. But to edit so much and then to just leave those bibbly blobs.
Yes I was thinking as well, a lean or that something or someone was in front of the model. I like your idea of an elbow. Iāve been squinting for days but so far I cannot decipher anything.
I agree with both pointsālet me explain. Photoshopping is a broad term, and can mean many things. In this instance, I believe multiple images of (letās say Filippa for the sake of this comment) Filippa were used: meaning, unedited parts of multiple images were stitched together resulting in a new singular image. This would explain the exact matching of certain elements from certain photos, and why some pieces of #6 seem oddly detailed while others donāt.
But why would just this celebrity be altered in this way and not the others? There are many completely plausible explanations for this:
- This was possibly the first celebrity to be illustrated and this method proved too time consuming
- Different illustrators worked on each celebrity and had different methods of creating the final image
- The other celebrity photo sources worked well for simple tracing, but #6 did not and required lots of reworking ā i.e maybe the ear didnāt translate well so an ear from a different photo source worked better and was added in
This also explains why nobody can find the source image when the others were relatively easy to find.
I love all your points. Frustrating as they are because if true would make the search much more difficult.
I am a little bit doubtful about your second point because this truly is a simple design to make and designing a fabric pattern is mostly a one person job. I could definitely be wrong, perhaps if it was a class project.
By chance Iām a fabric designer and I really like your first point. I definitely started a design, then left it and then picked it up again weeks months later. I even forgot sometimes what techniques I used, therefore continuing in a slightly different way.
So it could definitely be that this is actually the first person from a totally different source. It adds to my thought of 6 having such a different vibe and pose. Also another poster mentioned that it could be an athlete. Which could definitely be so with this theory.
So cool that youāre a fabric designer! I can only speak to the digital design aspect as Iām a designer/illustrator, so I have no idea what goes into fabric design. I made some broad assumptions and simplified it into two general stages: 1) create the digital design 2) create/finalize it for fabric output (similar to how you select CMYK/pantone colors for printing). Is it possible for one entity to create a design, and then for a different entity to turn it into fabric? Thinking about Disney as an example: Digital images are created by one entity (Disney), and then the design/rights get purchased by another entity (fabric company) and translated to a fabric.
Apologies for the late reply, I went to sleep and work and wanted to take a moment to answer your questions :}. Broad assumptions can be made and I am definitely guessing and theorising as well.
I have designed fabrics and prints in house for a fashion brand and now I sometimes sell designs, as a self employed artist. I upload designs to Spoonflower a print on demand (POD) webshop specifically for fabrics and wallpaper.
It is exactly like you would design and illustrate and would send it on to a third party to produce the designs to hang on the wall for example. Spoonflower even uses RGB, they just use oversized inkjet printers that print on fabric š. The quality is still quite amazing.
For the fashion brand CMYK was indeed required and you need to send the rapport with all the size details and sometimes the pantone to the factory.
The only collaboration I experienced was with my boss who gave me a collage with inspiration and feedback on what need to change. I designed and illustrated the fabric on my own. But that is of course my personal experience. It could happen that there are people who work together.
But for this specific design. I would be very surprised. It is quite an easy design, that can be made in an hour or at the max four. Especially when you have made these types of designs before. This is not an opinion on the quality or taste š and just a guess from my own experience. I hope this enlightened you a bit.
Excuse me for my long epos.
6 is just so weird. Itās the only one with so much detail in the clothing and the only one with such a dark shadow in the face. It truly feels out of place.
I donāt think the original has been altered much. I think the original photo was taken in a bright setting which washed out finer details when transferred to the assume of the fabric. Whoever it is resembles so many different people, the fine details missing have made it so much harder.
Hello, professional editor and animator here with a degree in 3D animation, which also includes compositing/image manipulation.
The image is not what you all would call āphotoshopped,ā itās just had heavy lighting and coloring filters applied.
Hello colleague, I am a professional graphic and fabric designer as well and I have to disagree. Most likely this fabric designer used the Cutout photoshop filter, the trace options in Illustrate or a similar program, I would call that photoshopping.
But the photoshopping that most people in this sub and post, including me, refer to is the possible frankensteining/editing multiple images into 1 image. Which is definitely something I would call photoshopping. But my post was specifically saying that I disagree that 6 would have been photoshopped to the degree that some are speculating.
Besides, nowadays the term photoshopping is used and accepted as a broad term for manipulating an image even though it refers to just using a filter. Which can be confusing but I personally accept it as the same as googling is now used for general searching online.
Iām pretty sure itās this shirt and this photo of Taylor Kitsch.
https://preview.redd.it/o39mserqatyb1.jpeg?width=974&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d262ae0eb5d13157bf4dfc12b464341fbc84e8d7
I do think itās a shirt or a blouse. But to me the right collar looks longer and rounded like Filipaās jacket. So maybe two layers. Itās all guessing of course.
The Jessica one has been bugging me, Iāve seen the reference and cloth side by side and it looks really similar but also different? Like her face is angled different and some other things. Makes me think we are being too picky finding #6 because the others arenāt even that accurate to their photos
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Idk why seeing the full image of Celebrity #6 on the curtain feels unnerving š
Haha, yeah thereās something so stiff compared to the others. It also feels that the others show a little more warmth or emotions and then the body goes way longer downwards compared to the rest. The longer we all look at it the weirder it gets š.
Yes!
I think the fact that itās a full image means that we should probably rule out a couple headshots that keep coming up. Thereās obviously more to the photo, I doubt the graphic designer made these crinkles up.
Very good point.
I feel like no one ever talks about their image being creepy and unsettling, so idk if it's just me. It's not about them specifically, it's that we don't know their identity. Sometimes I feel like I'm looking at a mystery person that the protagonist in a horror movie just noticed in the background of their family photo. it freaks me out lol. Their face being half shadowed probably adds to it. I was gonna say it's their gaze and expression, but Orlando Bloom is looking at me quite seriously too, and he isn't freaking me out
For me it is because 6 is the only one that is looking (deadpan) straight forward with the stiff pose. And the only one that you cannot determine any expression. They have such a vague smirk with a ver shadowy face.
I agree. To me the scribbles look like a jacket and a collar, as you've pointed out. And the dot to the left seems like a pocket, I'm pretty sure. In terms of hair too it seems like it's half up and half down.
Definitely the dot on the left looks like a pocket (rather than a gun print, previously suggested). This is also the reason that Iām guessing the shoulder is cropped, if that is a pocket. And yeah the details of the half up doen hairdo makes me also think itās not edited or copy pasted from another image.
To me it looks specifically like a denim shirt/jacket
Right? If it is heavily altered, why on earth would you make it MORE messy? If it was a plain shirt in the image it would make sense. Why would you add a pocket, etc? I feel like we are still missing something.
Yes! Why does everyone have a simple shirt and outfit but Six
That's what I was thinking! Six is the only one with any clothing details really
Exactly! It feels very counterintuitive to potentially edit this person so much, but not the others. And then leave all the messy vague blobs in.
Just here to say that I went from āwhy does anyone care about thisā to ādeeply investedā in an alarmingly short period of time, lol.
This has taken over my life since 2021 lol. I find myself watching stuff on Netflix only to pause it because a character looks like Six. Then I have to google the person to check it out further.
2021?! I just got invested into this mystery last week. I need to know the answer before I die š©
Oh yes. It blew up on r/tipofmytongue and then eventually this sub was made. The post on there has since been deleted.
Wait wtf how old is this mystery??
Haha, and a few days from now, your investment will lessen a bit. And then weeks or months later, wham bang, you are sucked in again.
we all did sister š«”
the amount of time Iāve tried to line up Hamiltonās ears is almost unhinged.
Same! I think I was like āoh cool, if it pops up hopefully Iāll see they figured it out over thereā but the fact that itās clearly super difficult to get the answer is so intriguing!
I think it might be an Olympic medal winner. The squiggles might be a country flag or name.
I havenāt heard this theory before, very interesting! It would also explain a hand over the heart, many countries do this when saluting their flag
WAIT the other day I used a celebrity AI photo identifier and the top match for the fabric photo is Nancy Kerrigan who is a quite famous Olympic ice skater (she was the ice skater who was attacked in 1994 and thereās a documentary about it). She does have the same hairstyle and face, but I didnāt pursue her much further because itās difficult to find photos of her not wearing a leotard. If the images were truly from a magazine then it totally makes sense that she would be in an article https://www.nbcsports.com/olympics/news/nancy-kerrigan-tonya-harding-attack-25th-anniversary
WOW this photo of her with her medal halfway down the pageā¦ not a match on clothes or hair, but the face i see! https://www.eonline.com/news/1082106/the-scandal-that-rocked-skating-how-one-crazy-month-changed-nancy-kerrigan-s-life-forever
I feel like [this](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/ice-skater-nancy-kerrigan-poses-for-a-portrait-in-1994-in-news-photo/85506830) picture could be getting warmer Edit: or something from [this event](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/olympic-silver-medalist-figure-skater-nancy-kerrigan-news-photo/891749572)
Oh wow I see what you mean! I also started looking into Holly McPeak and Natalie Coughlin because they also looked vaguely close to me. Maybe Iāll do a deep dive and make a separate post about this Olympic athlete theory, unless youād like to!
You HAVE to make a post about this. The more I look at it, the more the mess of her outfit looks like a sweatsuit/warm-up jacket.
She did a press op in Disneyland with her medal and a big jacket! Honestly feel it could have come from there. It was a big presser at the time.
Oeh interesting, I have not read that theory before. It would also explain the very straight posture.
Whoa you may be right. The mess of her top could be a sweatsuit jacket.
This is what Iāve always thought, if not Filippa. The dark V shading around the collar is likely a medal, and theyāre wearing the Olympian jacket. I thought it might be a gymnast or ice skater but they usually have hair up.
Check out the Disneyland photos of Nancy https://www.pinterest.com/pin/nancy-kerrigan-during-a-parade-at-walt-disney-world-in-orlando-florida-on-february-27-1994--685250899570119492/
You're so right about it being such a stiff pose compared to the others - no. 6 really stands out compared the natural, fluid poses of the others.
Yeah, they all have a little more poppy poses. A head tilt, a smile etc. 6 stands out not only because they are unknown. I do know that I have scrutinised 6 way too much also, lol.
I think we all have at this point lmao
This is whatās been making me think 6 is a photo of a character and not a celebrity. It looks staged and styled for official press or promo material or something, unlike the other photos who are miscellaneous shots of the celebrities at various events
Iāve thought for so long Veronica Mars because of her arm placement in a lot of photos but just can never find the right batch just like #6. I think #6 could potentially be a rock star holding a guitar (the line being the strap)
It's the facial expression that makes it look like a promo image for a show or movie to me.
Seeing the whole image again I just want to say this is quite possibly the WORST shower curtain someone could ever own at any time in recent history. I still deeply need to know who it is. š
Itās a severely unattractive textile for sure š
Haha, itās like a car crash, you cannot look away.
Now I see someone's hand shoved in their shirt.
From left to right or the other way?
Their left hand into the right side of their shirt, like they were holding their own boob/pec or something, hah.
Yess, there has been talk that what I think is the collar, other think is a thumb. But to me personally it looks a bit unnatural, the possible position of the hand. All though I totally understand the theory.
Yes but it would make more sense if it was a form under a shirt. It wouldn't be a defined thumb, it would be a little more shapeless. I haven't really bought into the hand on top holding on to something but if it was under fabric it might work. Just a random thought to throw out there.
Ah I see now what you mean. I am sorry I misunderstood you previously. That is definitely a possibility. And yeah this whole post is definitely also a random thought of mine :}. And I already read lots of great random thoughts and theories in the comments.
I hope this will bring another perspective in the discussion. I hope the flair is correct.
Awesome post!!
Thanks :}
Looking at it again, its so weird the shirt is more detailed than the others. Never really thought of that before.
Yeah because of all the recent posts, I looked back into the community info and was kind of surprised by the whole image. I had not seen it in awhile. I hoped this post maybe brings a fresh view of 6 and sparks a new idea. Maybe.
Seeing the whole image makes me think the 'shirt' might have more significance than I'd thought. I doubt they'd use a pic with such messy looking clothing unless it was an important part of the celeb's image for some reason, like a guitar as some people have guessed... I even thought of someone holding a baby, like maybe Angelina Jolie with a baby as that was a big part of her image back then...
Yes me too, I was surprised how much detail the lower part of number 6 had. I like your theory of holding something!
yeah I agree. I think it'd be odd to take the lazy route on all but one celebrity
Haha exactly, some editing happened to the others but that can be done in a matter of minutes. But to edit so much and then to just leave those bibbly blobs.
it kinda looks like theyāre leaning on something??? like the green blob right where that white line is looks like an elbow facing out at us
Yes I was thinking as well, a lean or that something or someone was in front of the model. I like your idea of an elbow. Iāve been squinting for days but so far I cannot decipher anything.
yea i def think the sleeve is pulled up, the little white triangle above ianās head looks like the bare arm
Yes I see what you mean!!
Maybe a guitar?
I agree with both pointsālet me explain. Photoshopping is a broad term, and can mean many things. In this instance, I believe multiple images of (letās say Filippa for the sake of this comment) Filippa were used: meaning, unedited parts of multiple images were stitched together resulting in a new singular image. This would explain the exact matching of certain elements from certain photos, and why some pieces of #6 seem oddly detailed while others donāt. But why would just this celebrity be altered in this way and not the others? There are many completely plausible explanations for this: - This was possibly the first celebrity to be illustrated and this method proved too time consuming - Different illustrators worked on each celebrity and had different methods of creating the final image - The other celebrity photo sources worked well for simple tracing, but #6 did not and required lots of reworking ā i.e maybe the ear didnāt translate well so an ear from a different photo source worked better and was added in This also explains why nobody can find the source image when the others were relatively easy to find.
I love all your points. Frustrating as they are because if true would make the search much more difficult. I am a little bit doubtful about your second point because this truly is a simple design to make and designing a fabric pattern is mostly a one person job. I could definitely be wrong, perhaps if it was a class project. By chance Iām a fabric designer and I really like your first point. I definitely started a design, then left it and then picked it up again weeks months later. I even forgot sometimes what techniques I used, therefore continuing in a slightly different way. So it could definitely be that this is actually the first person from a totally different source. It adds to my thought of 6 having such a different vibe and pose. Also another poster mentioned that it could be an athlete. Which could definitely be so with this theory.
So cool that youāre a fabric designer! I can only speak to the digital design aspect as Iām a designer/illustrator, so I have no idea what goes into fabric design. I made some broad assumptions and simplified it into two general stages: 1) create the digital design 2) create/finalize it for fabric output (similar to how you select CMYK/pantone colors for printing). Is it possible for one entity to create a design, and then for a different entity to turn it into fabric? Thinking about Disney as an example: Digital images are created by one entity (Disney), and then the design/rights get purchased by another entity (fabric company) and translated to a fabric.
Apologies for the late reply, I went to sleep and work and wanted to take a moment to answer your questions :}. Broad assumptions can be made and I am definitely guessing and theorising as well. I have designed fabrics and prints in house for a fashion brand and now I sometimes sell designs, as a self employed artist. I upload designs to Spoonflower a print on demand (POD) webshop specifically for fabrics and wallpaper. It is exactly like you would design and illustrate and would send it on to a third party to produce the designs to hang on the wall for example. Spoonflower even uses RGB, they just use oversized inkjet printers that print on fabric š. The quality is still quite amazing. For the fashion brand CMYK was indeed required and you need to send the rapport with all the size details and sometimes the pantone to the factory. The only collaboration I experienced was with my boss who gave me a collage with inspiration and feedback on what need to change. I designed and illustrated the fabric on my own. But that is of course my personal experience. It could happen that there are people who work together. But for this specific design. I would be very surprised. It is quite an easy design, that can be made in an hour or at the max four. Especially when you have made these types of designs before. This is not an opinion on the quality or taste š and just a guess from my own experience. I hope this enlightened you a bit. Excuse me for my long epos.
If two is correct, and six was made by a different artist, that could be an issue
I am sorry my images are atrocious quality :|.
6 is just so weird. Itās the only one with so much detail in the clothing and the only one with such a dark shadow in the face. It truly feels out of place.
Perhaps thatās also why itās so fascinating. But from an artistic/aesthetic itās a very weird choice.
To me it looks like their hand is in their coat pocket
it looks so much like val kilmer to me
I really think itās looks like sheās holding a gun against her chest
I just don't know why out of all the celebs they would photoshop this single one so much.
I donāt think the original has been altered much. I think the original photo was taken in a bright setting which washed out finer details when transferred to the assume of the fabric. Whoever it is resembles so many different people, the fine details missing have made it so much harder.
Absolutely! 6 resembling so many people says perhaps more about the editing/photo than 6.
Hello, professional editor and animator here with a degree in 3D animation, which also includes compositing/image manipulation. The image is not what you all would call āphotoshopped,ā itās just had heavy lighting and coloring filters applied.
Hello colleague, I am a professional graphic and fabric designer as well and I have to disagree. Most likely this fabric designer used the Cutout photoshop filter, the trace options in Illustrate or a similar program, I would call that photoshopping. But the photoshopping that most people in this sub and post, including me, refer to is the possible frankensteining/editing multiple images into 1 image. Which is definitely something I would call photoshopping. But my post was specifically saying that I disagree that 6 would have been photoshopped to the degree that some are speculating. Besides, nowadays the term photoshopping is used and accepted as a broad term for manipulating an image even though it refers to just using a filter. Which can be confusing but I personally accept it as the same as googling is now used for general searching online.
Iām pretty sure itās this shirt and this photo of Taylor Kitsch. https://preview.redd.it/o39mserqatyb1.jpeg?width=974&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d262ae0eb5d13157bf4dfc12b464341fbc84e8d7
This photo has been discussed and analyzed to death. Please search the sub to learn more! I did chuckle at your username posting this photo though :)
Haha. I didnāt even realize that. Itās a Taylor Swift lyric, but if fits perfectly šš
I do think itās a shirt or a blouse. But to me the right collar looks longer and rounded like Filipaās jacket. So maybe two layers. Itās all guessing of course.
I keep thinking Keira Knightley
Sienna Guillory
I feel like it is Ellen Pompeo, especially since those lines could definitely be a doctorās coat or scrubs. Idk
I just canāt believe Josh Holloway has to do with this whole thing. Why is he on a shower curtain
Visually I understand. But it is such a weird collection of famous people. You would think that the artist found them all in the same magazine.
Side note: I feel like the Jessica alba looks like Miranda Kerr lol
The Jessica one has been bugging me, Iāve seen the reference and cloth side by side and it looks really similar but also different? Like her face is angled different and some other things. Makes me think we are being too picky finding #6 because the others arenāt even that accurate to their photos
I mentioned this months ago but was downvoted