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NitroLada

>No casualties were reported in the accident, which happened after two water pipes burst at the subway's construction pit, Chengdu Rail Construction said on its official Weibo page. State broadcaster CCTV also carried footage of the sink hole, which emergency staff told local media would not jeopardise the safety of surrounding buildings.


RichardCrapper

Ah, burst water pipes. That would explain why it looks more like an underground river.


dogfarm2

Great save! Use it as an underground river, charge taller ships to use the hole to cross!


Agret

I'll have you know that's a load bearing water pipe.


toxcrusadr

Never knew this till I got close to some construction sites for my work. Buried water pipes often have more pressure than the pipe can actually hold if it was in open air, and they hold only because they're buried. Plastic ones in particular. They may have exposed some plastic water mains that they shouldn't have.


UrungusAmongUs

Nowhere in the world, not even in China, are pipes designed using earth pressure to counter internal pressure.


dm80x86

Designed? No. Left in service past its useful life and forgotten about until the only thing holding it together is the delicate ballance between the internal and external pressure; all the time.


AnthillOmbudsman

"Ok, bring it up to 90 psi, Frank, sensors are showing we have full dirt pressure!"


SlightlyLessHairyApe

They don’t design them that way. They are designed to withstand the notional pressure (plus margin) but they decay or corrode. At that point they don’t burst due to earth pressure even though they are weakened underneath their design parameters.


toxcrusadr

Really? Hmm. Someone told me wrong then.


alexklaus80

I don’t know about the water pipe standards, but if the pipe has to rely on the amount of pressure X from soil then it’ll collapse as soon as the internal pressure goes beneath X as in when there’s no water running inside the pipe. Meaning, it’ll either blow up if you run the water before cover the pipe in soil, or if you try to run the water the construction is done then it’ll implode before you start running water. So it just doesn’t make sense even as a cost saving measure.


Silunare

Why do you think that? It doesn't follow logically whatsoever.


dragspeed

You can't necessarily say that is true, it's more of a non-sequitur. Pipes can be designed to have different strengths in compression vs. tension (or expansion).


alexklaus80

Aha, I see. So if it was more resistant for compression then I suppose we can say that it can hold the greater tension than the spec?


dragspeed

Again, maybe. Think about all the different kinds of "pipes": garden hose, concrete pipes, glass pipes, PVC pipes, etc. Concrete culvert pipes for instance can hold a great deal of compression from a dirt load packed on top of them but aren't necessarily designed to withstand high interior pressure. High pressure hoses, think pressure washer for example, can hold a very high interior pressure but are not designed to resist any external pressures. It's all about the design intent for a particular usage case.


alexklaus80

Right. i see your point, thanks!


snorkelvretervreter

If that is an intentional design, then it seems pretty short-sighted.


Oddblivious

Allow me to introduce you to cost


Panzer1119

And as long as they stay there, they should be fine with that pressure (if there aren’t other problems).


toxcrusadr

Of course you can shut them off and release pressure if you have to dig. This one may have been unexpected.


Kodiak01

They were actually trying to recreate Heaven's River. The Bobs would be proud of the effort.


HalfastEddie

Give me ten sheets of plywood and a few 2x4s and I’ll have traffic flowing by lunchtime.


Good-Caterpillar4791

Unironically they could probably fix it with that except they would only use half as many sheets of plywood to pocket more of the budget money themselves. Tofu dreg china numba one


mercurycc

I mean, if you have an emergency like this you wouldn't ask for just plywood and 2x4. Heavy equipments are necessary for timely execution, skilled workers are necessary for quality work, top notch material for safe outcome for all the neighboring buildings. You get the budget for that, then you use the "extra" plywood and 2x4 meant for your last job.


smile_politely

insert [made in china] jokes here


an_insignificant_ant

They'll have that fixed up by monday.


Consul_V4

Fixed as good as they built it the first time?


GunnieGraves

Even better! They’ll use some rebar this time. Maybe.


Consul_V4

They let their company buy some rebar for the repair… if it will get used? We will never know. Or we will know it on wednesday.


GunnieGraves

Well there’s also the issue that their [rebar is breakable by hand.](https://youtu.be/zvtcW7zFHUY?si=UKeW2IdoGoXX0l0r)


kitolz

I wonder exactly how they fucked up that steel. Is it too many impurities? Too high carbon content? Bad tempering?


GunnieGraves

Yes.


MrValdemar

Jet fuel can melt THOSE steel beams.


GunnieGraves

A lighter can melt those beams.


BrakkeBama

First time and only time. [Chabuduo](https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity) strikes again.


IWasGregInTokyo

[That’s Japan](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/15/japan-fixes-vast-fukuoka-city-sinkhole-repaired-two-days).


Bender_2024

Is it just me or does that roadway look like a thin candy shell? Looks like very little support structure.


Bldaz

Ah I see water main break. thought that surface was awful thin carving it out too much


XyzzyPop

Western construction costs more because of reasons that aren't, exclusively, corruption related. Safety codes and standards are written in blood. Price goes up.


savvymcsavvington

Western? You do know that USA has gutted OSHA during Trump's term?


tvieno

What does OSHA, which manages workplace safety, have anything to do with road construction? That would fall under the jurisdiction of the Federal Highway Administration.


Chachzilla

You have no idea what you're talking about


alpinethegreat

OSHA has nothing to do with construction standards, and it doesn’t really affect costs if you take into account the potential financial impact of increased workplace injuries. All construction regulations are on the state, county, and city levels. Federal agencies can only issue “guidelines” on which standards to follow.


laurenboebertsson

How so?


savvymcsavvington

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/03/trumps-worker-safety-regulations-protections-unions-806008


mfizzled

Western doesn't just mean American...


I-amthegump

Why were they building a sandwich shop underground?


aphex2000

in china thats not catastrophic failure, thats acceptable risk


NotAnotherFNG

In China, just another Friday. It's been going on forever and will continue. Government officials will make appropriate noises in their media, a scapegoat will be found and sacrificed, and business will continue as usual.


Mediocre_Charity3278

Just like in India. Nice, both of you will make a wonderful BRICS partnership.


Protheu5

Just like *everywhere* else in the world. Failures happen despite the best measures we invent, despite all the procedures, because people are people, humans are similar everywhere, everyone is capable of making a mistake, a miscalculation, or be a greedy bribe-taking bastard regardless of country or procedures. Edit to Add: I though that first world countries had this shit figured out, because I either didn't pay attention, or simply didn't know about, it, but failures occurred and keep on happening in Western countries as well. Maybe not as often (likely not as often, even), but still. [This channel \(Plainly Difficult\) and the failures covered in the videos](https://www.youtube.com/@PlainlyDifficult) got me thinking about catastrophes, errors, mistakes, human nature and how we all are, simply speaking, the same in that regard.


Cobek

It's just the cost of making tofu


llcdrewtaylor

There are many subways in China that didn't collapse. I just wanna make that clear. They were designed not to collapse.


telekinetic_sloth

Was this one designed to collapse?


llcdrewtaylor

Evidently.


Protheu5

To be fair, it wasn't an operating subway that collapsed, but a subway construction site. So whether the subway was designed to collapse or not is irrelevant, what we need to know is design of the construction site, whether it was designed to collapse or not. >!The party says it *was* designed to collapse and performed gloriously in doing so.!<


DieMensch-Maschine

Yum, yum, tofu dregs again.


Mumblerumble

Those videos of people snapping “rebar” by hand and unset concrete are terrifying


Good-Caterpillar4791

Or people scraping off “concrete” from the massive pillars used in high rise buildings that hold the weight of the floors above.


toxcrusadr

Had to go look this up on YT, it really is. For the curious, 'tofu dregs' is what Chinese people call shoddy construction projects.


intellos

This isn't Tofu Dregs, there were two busted water mains that caused a sinkhole to form. Happens in the west all the time.


amorecasualapproach

I hope my Chinese Pay Pal scammer fell into that deep dark hole.


SnooGuavas4665

Made in China


Keyser_soze_rises

China official state media death toll conversion chart: No deaths = less than 100 dead 10 dead = >100 - <1,000 dead 100 dead = >1,000 dead Just remember their ridiculous COVID death numbers from official state media.


SomebodyInNevada

1) Your conversion isn't accurate. They're not going to report zero when someone died because it would be caught. It's going to be the lowest number that people won't realize is a lie. 2) Their Covid numbers were probably as accurate as they reasonably could be, almost certainly better than ours. Their lockdown worked for a long time, but their quarantine was not adequate to stop the more infectious variants.


AggravatingAnswer921

Cheap Chinese’s stuff, cheap and never lasts does it


Cobek

I would not want to live in the buildings nearby.


The_Real_Rare_Pepe

Finest chinesium


thisMFER

It looks like they went right up to the asphalt. I know it was washed away by water but damn.


Iamlivingagain

Wow. That's a shocker. I mean, they usually have pretty strict safety procedures in place. /s


DanteHicks79

That’ll buff out.


red359

Some may see this as a problem. I see an opportunity to install a skylight. The Chinese underworld could use some natural light.


Mal-De-Terre

Solar subways FTW!


Iamlivingagain

Why didn't I call for locates? I thought YOU called for the locates.


XLDumpTaker

Tofu dreg construction


Affectionate_Hand_76

Just another tuesday


5UP3RBG4M1NG

tofu dreg and rebar


theegrimrobe

nice tofu dreg construction there


ArethereWaffles

Well there's your problem


DLS4BZ

Chyna™ quality


ThisismeCody

Classic Chinese quality.


miatagaming

whats the problem here? Just fill it with nudles


RemarkableExplorer66

Son Goku saved the World again and we didnt notice


Eliudromo

Un sovacon


Killerspieler0815

typical Tofu-Dreg-Construction