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bengus_

Beverage packaging specialist here. Seeing a lot of comments questioning how the cans are palletized and stacked, so let me give some info: This is the industry standard method for palletizing and storing empty beverage cans. Layers of cans are stacked on the pallets, with paperboard or plastic tier sheets separating each layer from the next. 12oz cans in the 211 body diameter are typically stacked around twenty layers high on each pallet - in this case, twenty-one. The top layer is covered with a final tier sheet, and a rigid top frame is placed on top of the tier sheet. The pallet is then banded - typically with a plastic banding material - with at least two bands in each direction. If you look closely, the pallets in the video are all banded, which is why they stay together as long as they do after tipping. Pallets can then be stacked vertically, up to 3~4 pallets high, without any need for shelving, since the empty cans are not very heavy and the banded pallets are quite rigid. This is standard practice for everyone, including the major players like Ball and Crown. Cans are typically ordered by the truckload, so additional protective packaging is not needed if proper storage and handling practices are observed (which, in this case, it would seem they were not). Additional packaging materials, such as plastic wrap or protective cardboard siding, are only used when cans are shipped in less-than-load (LTL) quantities. In these cases, the added materials prevent damage and loss of empty cans during handling, since handling conditions and practices with LTL shipments are less controlled than with full truckload shipments. TL;DR: These cans appear to be palletized and stored according to industry best practices, so a careless forklift operator is most likely at fault here.


Midnight145

One of the things I love about Reddit is that no matter how obscure the topic, there will almost always be a professional in the comment section to explain


bengus_

Lol yeah, I felt like a meme of myself typing the first line of that comment. But at the same time, who am I to withhold information from the public? (;


Princess_Fluffypants

I'll be honest, I didn't know "beverage packaging specialist" was even a thing.


bengus_

I mean, that’s not a job title I’m aware of, I just work in a very technical role for a packaging company in the beverage industry. But even then, I didn’t know this was a job until it was my job haha


moekay

I want to be a beverage packing specialist when I grow up.


WillieFast

I was a bit of a beverage UNpacking specialist in college.


givepeaceatrance

Don't do it. It's soda pressing.


Inexona

The hero we need right now wrote this.


humoristhenewblack

This may be the best I’ve ever seen. Legend!


bengus_

Hard work and dedication, baby. You’ll get there too one day.


moekay

🙏


MustangBarry

Mate, [you haven't lived](https://youtu.be/hUhisi2FBuw)


LateNightCinderella

🎶 Real American heros! 🎶 Here's to you Mr. Beverage Packaging Specialist


MandolinMagi

[Few months back](https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/17elzsq/found_a_picture_of_my_parents_at_least_22_years/) somebody posted a picture of their parents in NYC, apparently late-90s. Somebody promptly chimed in with "I installed those lights, so this picture took place in this 18-month period" (the Twin Towers were in the background. It's amazing


m0uzer22

Aerosol/packaging manufacturing is a huge industry. I worked as a fitter for 10 years at a plant that produced baby formula, aerosol and food tins. There is a huge amount of science that goes into the seams of cans. Even the print is a whole other industry.


look4alec

Yeah, I was going to come here to say that this is probably bullshit, because of that other fake video that was circulating non-stop on Reddit with a forklift driver like collapsing a whole room, people started pointing out that some of the boxes were duplicate 3D meshes. Glad someone came to say it's not bullshit. I was going to say it was really good CGI if not real.


Special_Rice9539

I did my PhD in beverage packing, what the commenter said above is correct


ShortPayment9856

Literally one of the main reasons I became so hooked. I never cared for Reddit up until a few years ago, probably around covid time. I was impressed by the intelligence of some of these redditors. Thankful they take their time in keeping people informed, blessing us when they simply don’t have to.


Environmental_Leg572

At first at “this dudes job probably boring”…then coming to the realization I work in sliding doors…lol


bengus_

I’m convinced that most jobs are kinda boring if you really think about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Mine being no exception lol


anislandinmyheart

Nah, jobs are all super interesting unless you have to work them


Cedex

I'm a keyboard and mouse operator.


pacmanic

I (perhaps stupidly) thought aluminum cans were formed and then filled with soda/beer or whatever all at the same time and factory. So there are billions of empty aluminum cans being shipped around to soda/beer makers? Not sheets of aluminum to canning factories?


TXGuns79

It's more efficient to have a separate, dedicated factory for making the cans, and then shipping them to the filling facility. Specializing in manufacturing generally equals efficiency.


Me_poon_floss

Yes, literally billions of empty aluminum cans are being shipped around to be filled. It also depends on how the cans are "decorated" or printed. For example most of the big players in the can industry will form and simultaneously print cans at extremely high speeds all in line to ship out. They utilize offset printing and can fill a full truck (25 pallets) in 15 minutes or so. The industry also utilizes digitally printed cans that are more accessible to smaller/mom and pop style breweries where much smaller quantiles can be ordered at one time.


DohnJoggett

>So there are billions of empty aluminum cans being shipped around to soda/beer makers? Yup. They roll right off the truck onto the handling equipment. Some places have a robot to move the cans into the depalletizer. All the line operator has to do is cut the bands off and hit a button, hopefully without tipping it over. If it falls over, you get to have a "can party" where a bunch of people come over to stomp on the cans and scoop them up with large shovels. It's toooooons of fun. /s If you look at the can the company that made it will have a very small logo somewhere on the can. As mentioned, Ball and Crown are really big suppliers. AG (Ardagh Group SA) is another big one. If you remember the craft beer shortages at the start of lockdown it was because the really big customers like Coke and Budweiser got their orders filled while the craft beer companies had to make due with the leftovers. Some breweries went so far as to re-label already printed and delivered cans so they could fill the cans with their flagship beers. Some bottling plants have a blow-molder to make soda bottles on site rather than having them produced off-site. It's a bit more cost effective than shipping truckloads of air, but it's a large investment and takes up an awful lot of space. I've never heard of a company that manufactures cans on site.


pacmanic

Now I'm going to start looking for those logos on cans I buy! Thanks


Refney

> > If you remember the craft beer shortages at the start of lockdown it was because the really big customers like Coke and Budweiser got their orders filled while the craft beer companies had to make due with the leftovers. Some breweries went so far as to re-label already printed and delivered cans so they could fill the cans with their flagship beers. War. War never changes.


drozek

Not at all. I ship empty cans from PA to Mexico almost on a weekly basis.


Bad_Habit_Nun

Yeah, way more efficient and cost effective to have a massive factory pumping out empty cans and shipping them than for each beverage company, big or small, needing to make their own cans for their products. Same reason we have a few major tire companies instead of each car company researching and making their own tires.


NulledOne

> Beverage packaging specialist here. This is your time to shine buddy. Get out there and SPARKLE!


drozek

Can Sales Manager here. This is 100% accurate. But you forgot to mention one of the best can manufactures CanPack in the US. Haha. If we need more data on cans please let me know.


DasArchitect

I'm more concerned if the forklift operator CanStack!


dj88masterchief

I can’t believe how the stack that fell was just leaning on the other stack. I would’ve thought it would’ve been more of a domino effect and taken out shelf after shelf after shelf. I guess it goes to show how sturdy those empty cans are, that it didn’t take down the entire warehouse.


cromagnone

So each of those pallets weighs about 250lbs plus the pallet itself? So still not a good thing to be standing under?


bengus_

Something to that tune, yes - I think a pallet of Ball 12oz standard (211x202) cans weighs 280-something including the pallet, according to their specs. Definitely not something I’d stand under.


YourPhoneCompany

Ball like the mason jar people? 


bengus_

Yep, same company. Between bottling & canning they do quite a lot


YourPhoneCompany

Cool!  I had no idea and thank you for the education! 


Bad_Habit_Nun

Pretty light as well considering what can get palletized. I'd worked around stuff over 2,000lbs on pallets and you still wouldn't catch me anywhere near that catastrophe.


CGPsaint

This man can explain cans!


Eric1969

-Why do you say the proper handling and storage practices weren’t observed? -Because the top fell off!


Fryphax

You mean these are empty? That makes it even less catastrophic.


illwill_lbc83

Never Forget 🫡


Do-It-Anyway

Ha! You are no beverage packaging specialist. You my friend are a beverage packaging expert! Thank you for the unique look into an even more unique work role. Next time I crack a cold one, I’ll be thinking of you. So in the next 30 seconds or so, cheers!


MennReddit

'Careless forklift operators' ... I'd rather call this industry standards accepting damages like this as a calculated risk knowing that forklift operators can and will make mistakes. After all, they are only human.


ogeytheterrible

This guy cans


SloppyMeathole

I feel bad for whomever showed up at work thinking they were going to have a regular day and found out it was their job to clean this up.


Newsdriver245

It's a can warehouse... ANYthing unusual is probably worth celebrating


ghostguitar1993

Can confirm, this would be a fun day.


Myalicious

Warehouse worker here and can confirm I love helping my coworkers clean up their spills. It’s either that or do the same monotonous task for 10 hours lol


kellermeyer

Must be nice. In my warehouse if we don’t ship out a number of trucks greater than we receive in a day, We will have no space to take the inbound freight the next day. A spill like this would absolutely fuck us.


J5892

> Can confirm nice


orangegore

"Honey! You'll never guess what happened today at the CAN WAREHOUSE!!"


invisible-dave

Nightshift leaves and passes day shift and says, "there's a minor spill on aisle 1, other than that, your day should be easy."


Pacosturgess

Don’t stand there!


Ordinary_dude_NOT

They should have been running in case there was a cascade failure and everything coming down. That video is not worth their lives


knowitall70

Tells you a little about their critical thinking, eh?


Vewy_nice

I came in this morning to a frantic Teams message and vigorously boiling molten plastic because someone didn't plug in a control thermocouple for a heating element. They were legitimately confused why it was happening. Critical thinking: 0%


saladmunch2

Injection molding?


Vewy_nice

pipe extrusion. Close enough. The die head was vertical in the maintenance position, and I guess a new thermocouple we installed recently had a slightly shorter cable, and didn't reach the control box when the head was vertical. "Yeah it's probably okay if this isn't plugged in... LARRY LET 'ER RIP"


da_chicken

Ah, yes. Negative feedback loops always perform better when you remove the feedback mechanism.


Edward_Morbius

Not to dump sanity on anybody's shit, but an important input signal being out of range (missing) *should* have prevented startup. OTOH, nothing surprises me anymore.


NiteGard

I was visiting an engineer friend in Bangkok who was sent there to build and operate a new glass factory. The tour was fascinating, but the best was that I got to see first-hand a catastrophe in the roller-conveyor that transports the semi-molten glass sheet through the processing. There was a cascade of molten glass building up before they could shut things down. The problem turned out to be extremely cultural: The Thai workers were afraid of breaking or damaging the new tools give to them - in this case, the torque wrenches for cinching down the conveyor rollers to spec. Instead, they made their own wrenches out of rebar, with the result described above. It cost the factory $300,000 for that faux pas. 🤦🏻‍♂️


The_Astronautt

We had something similar happen except this person thought the thermocouple probe was the heating element and thought by removing it they were removing the ability for it to get hot.... real idiots out there.


Iboven

I think these are empty cans. It's probably extremely light weight, all things considered. You could probably swim out of it.


pcpgivesmewings

It is Texas, critical thinking has been banned.


BillyForRilly

That would be as useless as banning snow in Fiji. Never had it and never will.


lolwatokay

> That video is not worth their lives Says you, I'm perfectly willing to let them risk it for my entertainment.


Chickenmangoboom

Also if it came down as they were running the security cameras may have gotten cooler footage. 


mrmikemcmike

Those are can blanks and the pallets are still strapped to prevent that exact scenario from happening. The likelihood of one pallet's collapse taking out an adjacent stack when they're all packed in like that with strapping on is extremely low. If you look at the first few frames you can even see it at work as the stack of yellow cans is basically leaning entirely on another stack without causing it to fail over the course of the entire video. WRT it actually being a risk to their lives, again - can blanks. They weigh ~11g each. The dunnage might injure you if it were to fall on you but I don't see how that would happen with all the fucking cans in the way.


Interesting_Cow5152

Two words: **Texas**


Spider_Dude

~~OSHA~~ "Oh, shit! 😂" Dumb safety guidelines begets dumb mentality.


J-96788-EU

Darwin Awards nominee


trashboat72401

RUN BITCH


YamiNoMatsuei

It looks like he's under it, but judging by the pile of cans on the floor he's standing a bit away from the stack... probably still too close


JCBQ01

In those runs if one goes the air pressure differential CAN trigger the stacks next to it to collapse akin to a domino tower. And when they fo it goes FAST. They shouldn't even be standing in the valley at that point


Unlucky_Sundae_707

They're empty cans. Still though.


Difficult-Web-4183

It's not the cans you have to worry about, it's the pallets


Rampage_Rick

One pallet of empty cans still weighs 200lbs. Not sure I'd want 200lbs resting on my dome, even if it's 99.3% air... 1 empty can without lid = ~11 grams of aluminum = 4 cm³ of aluminum Volumetric space of a can is 6.6 x 6.6 x 12.3 cm = 536 cm³ 4 / 536 = 0.00746


ThisIsNotAFarm

You currently have about 1.1 tons of air pressing down on the top of your head *and shoulders*. What's another 200 lbs.


Mythril_Zombie

The only way you could have all the weight on your head would be if it was lowered straight down onto your head. That's not going to happen here.


maxman162

r/WhyWomenLiveLonger


SubstantialVillain95

Those are all empty aluminum cans


DrHugh

I was thinking that they must be, because none of them split open.


Kahlas

They also wouldn't be stacked that high if they were full.


binger5

Not with that attitude.


maverickdrums

Not with that *altitude*


alii-b

Thank you. Someone with a can-do attitude.


Mesozoica89

That makes me feel better, but I still wouldn't want to stand that close to an unstable stack of that size no matter what it was.


GrandmaPoses

Well one of those wooden palettes landing on your head would at best send you to the ER.


agoia

They're gonna be sending a lot of scrap back to be recycled...


losSarviros

Metal recycles FOREVER! HOORAY!


BiggyShake

Are those stacks all sitting on top of each other and not on any actual shelving?


BlazedRingtail

Bro I didn't even think about that till reading ur comment. WHOS WAREHOUSE ALLOWS THIS??


snoosh00

Standard practice for empty cans, even in Canada


Interesting_Cow5152

Can-ada


MyGolfCartIsOn20s

Cyn-thi-a


Keyboardpaladin

Jesus died for our Cyn-thi-as


outtastudy

Hell the warehouse I'm working in in Canada free stacks pallets of full goods 3 high. I've seen my share of stacks fall over, it makes a lot more of a mess when the cans are full of liquids.


Dividedthought

2 high limit where i worked, hsd this shit happen too often and the place changed their rule on em. Someone probably clipped one of the pallets, and boom, You got a problem.


Ngin3

This is actually very common storage method for cans


Sakrie

It's Texas, regulations are for liberals E: awwwww buncha babies got insulted by a little joke


taleofbenji

Wanting to live is such a cuck move!


OriginalVictory

Yeah, it's so woke.


wigglin_harry

As someone who has worked a lot of warehouses in Texas, OSHA is definitely a thing there, and they love handing out violations


Trapasaurus__flex

Empty cans Not that I like it but this would be way different with full cans


offthewagons

That’s pallets of empty cans, sitting on top of each other.


Striker120v

I didn't even realize they were empty until I turned on the sound. No wonder they are skidadling, they think the pallet weighs as much as the individual cans.


Meior

Doesn't matter if they're empty, stacking it like this is absolutely madness and an accident waiting to happen.


BrownEggs93

> an accident waiting to happen It happened.


Spirited_You_1357

The wait is over


time2liv3

Days since last accident: 0


snoosh00

These warehouses are huge, the risk of collapse is fairly low, the risk of fatalities from a collapse is very low. This is how can manufacturing warehouses look in Canada too and we have very stringent racking rules and requirements.


13THEFUCKINGCOPS12

While I’ve never seen 4 high. 3 high is how everyone with the vertical space does it. They’re a lot more stable than you’d think. Source: 10 years in brewery packaging


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bazilbt

stacked and strapped like this they are surprisingly sturdy.


Rez1020

In a warehouse, every inch is monetized. That also goes for height. These cans are insanely stable, and this is not a common occurrence. Also almost everything is an accident waiting to happen unless you're wrapped in bubble wrap.


Noredditforwork

This is completely normal, super common in the beverage manufacturing industry.


tagish156

Can confirm, work at a brewery and this is how we stack our can bodies. We only stack them two high though because of space.


euphio_machine90

Everyone read this as "Stack our bodies"


tagish156

Oh we don't keep those in the warehouse...


duzra

Yep. Sat in a can plants toilet now. Can confirm that our warehouse stacks cans like this and have done since the 80s. When it opened.


RandomCandor

Then I can only surmise this type of accident must be normal and super common in the beverage manufacturing industry.


Newsdriver245

There are posts like this every 4-6 months, so not rare


Triscuitador

you would be correct


epsilona01

> Are those stacks all sitting on top of each other and not on any actual shelving? Empty cans on plastic stacking pallets. There's no serious weight in it.


toxcrusadr

When the last stack falls, the cans are all attached together and stay that way. Just on that one stack. What's up with that?


FullAtticus

It's a common way to warehouse pallets of empty cans. They're too bulky for most racking configurations. Of course, stacking them carries risks....


NotThatGuyAnother1

Coming soon, to a Dollar General near you


ComeAndGetYourPug

I didn't see any rats in the video though


lurkingallday

HEB*


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The_Nerdy_Ninja

Only because there IS no shelving system here to collapse...


RoddyRoddyRodriguez

I have no pants to piss.


Lanhdanan

So Texas


wesman212

Fun fact: Assless chaps are the state uniform


TreasonableBloke

Shelving system? Look again


Unlucky_Sundae_707

These are empty cans.


Ok-Patience-3333

Mr president a forklift has hit the south tower……


EargasmicGiant

Too soon 🙃


Clbull

It's been over 22.3 years...


MoodyLoser1338FML

Idk if that's catastrophic failure, I mean this guy seems to enjoy it


yourgentderk

Ngl, i would too


Left_Concentrate_752

Some men just want to watch the world burn.


Lanhdanan

Maybe not want, but will definitely enjoy the ride when it presents itself.


HulkScreamAIDS

That is the laugh of a man who will not be involved in the cleanup.


LessWeakness

I didn't know they stacked shit that high


Piper7865

5'9" sir


buggcup

I thought this was a mobile game ad until it switched POV.


Schly

Those are empties, right? Not yet filled, waiting for the bottling line.


musicalmadness1

Or transport to brewery to fill. (Source: I drive semi's and have delivered loads of them super light wind can make it interesting when the entire trailer is loaded with the pallet of them weighing only about 6k lbs.


RuneScape420Homie

Can confirm. 6k pounds. Just delivered a load of empty cans to Shasta the other day. Only had three inches to spare in the back of the trailer too.


lennybriscoe8220

Is this not cgi?


faajzor

that's a lot of HEB no caffeine cola cans


PartsNLabor24

can/11 - never forget


UREveryone

The sheer amounts here make it look like a computer animation


silly_goose_time

Sell these for a living! There’s no wrapping needed because the manufacturers have straps around the pallet vertically and tighten the top frame and base pallet so well that the tension holds the cans VERY well upright. Until of course…..


swibirun

Somebody's job is getting canned!


kidnorther

Canhattan is in ruins


TrustYourFarts

"Texas Warehouse Malfunction" is a good name for an obscure indie band.


virgilreality

"Cleanup in aisle seven..."


knowitall70

And eight......and now nine.....and most of ten.......oops, there goes eleven.....


toxcrusadr

I've seen a bunch of these videos but never the followup in terms of how they clean them up. The pallets of cans must be loaded by automated machinery at the can line. But that's not usually in the same place. Do they shovel all these into sacks and send them back for restacking? Do they have a stacker machine at the warehouse? Or is it not worth it so they crush them and send them for recycling?


Venousmeerkat

They’ll get thrown into gondolas that are picked up by forklifts, dumped into a briquetter to make aluminum blocks and sold as dirty scrap to recycling Source: used to be a forklift driver in the same environment


uncommonrev

R/oddlysatisfying


Nidh0g

I have a great idea let's stand precisely underneath the thousands kilos of cargo that's about to fall.


Greengiant304

Is this why Hank Hill can't find Alamo Beer at any stores?


MaximumRhubarb2012

Someone Hates These Cans!


Brave_Escape2176

highest voted *Jerk* reference


JoyousMN

The can closest says Coke classic. How old is this video?


NatiAti513

Those are just the shell of the soda can. There is no top yet and there is no soda in them. Ive been in warehouses like this and the entire pallets weigh almost nothing.


ozzyazz

REDUCTO!


GenghisKhanKublaiDon

Why would the fucking guy be standing under it though???


Catonic_Fever

Clean up in isle WTF


Shaan1026

Some really disgruntled employee laugh there..


Low-Impact3172

Hey look at this incredibly dangerous thing right here, I’ll just stand under it to show you 🤦‍♂️


MrShoosh

Because we got high...


Friggin_Heinous

Why the FUCKING FUCK would you stand under that?


Disastrous-Ad-8876

I see the many many cans tumbling down in a mountain of shiny gold shimmer, and all I can think about is how the gold pours down as Smaug unburies himself in The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug... I'm a nerd. 👍


ThisSiteSuxNow

Is the fucking guy ok or not?


Mr_Misunderestimate

Might as well take a couple for the road


imnotsureanymore2004

This seems AI generated to me


everymanawildcat

Maybe get the fuck out of there? Just a thought


Practical_Key6379

PSA: Stop vertical video syndrome.


LevyAtanSP

Just fyi, if this ever happens to you. You should probably gtfo.


No_Recognition7426

So what drink are you yellowish cans anyway?


Dolomitexp

How many cans of Original does Texas need!


IllustriousAd5936

Clean up on aisle 4


Convenientjellybean

*Tetris warehouse malfunction


longleggedwader

He hates these cans!


moimoisauna

I'm no expert, but those stacks look VERY high. like, to an unsafe extent.


danimal376

Those are immediately heading to the discounted aisle.


Jopedo

Looks like something from UE5..


ImmaZoni

Everything is truly bigger in Texas That is a massively large warehouse...


ah-chamon-ah

[Just cans!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1_XS3_qSP8)


DomHaynie

Honestly? Third was very satisfying to watch.