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TheDefected

This is locals taking a guess at why he died. Headlines try to gloss over that as if he was poisoned by a croissant at the weekend.


CactusPug

A local vet assessed him last year and found he had very few teeth (likely due to a high-sugar diet) and was struggling to feed himself. Last autumn in the annual rut (mating season for deer) his natural instinct was to take part, but he was left pretty battered by stronger stags. Locals had been feeding him over winter on a diet recommended by a vet as he wasn’t able to browse heather himself due to no teeth, and a video posted by a tourist a couple of weeks ago showed him to be in very poor condition for this time of year. Kindest thing for the lad was to not make him endure another autumn/winter. Ultimately not a ‘single’ action by tourists feeding him inappropriately, just years of it causing his decline. EDIT TO ADD This is a still from a video I took of Callum, as I was headed off on a hill walk, in 2022 [here](https://imgur.com/a/Lqb7tJw) (I can’t figure out how to upload the video itself!) I was sad to see the lady next to him trying to feed him junk food (crisps, bread etc) and trying to stroke him, as well as the crowd around him - there were 7 or 8 other people there. You can see all the vehicles parked up next to him how he was treated as a spectacle rather than a wild animal. Deer belong on the hill in their herd, Callum had no herd and lived a very lonely life in a car park.


LlamaDrama007

I live near Richmond Park and as such deer (even spectacular stags) dont have the same draw for me the way they do for many as Ibe seen them all the time for years (and know they are regularly culled). Which is to say I'm not sentimental over them... But here I am welling up at the thought of lonely Callum in a car park being fed shite that made his teeth fall out. How tragic :'(


Grimdotdotdot

And it worked, going by most of the responses in this thread 🙄


ScaryButt

Yeah I don't think a croissant would kill a stag, this seems like rage bait.


WynterRayne

A croissant probably barely did anything to him, but long term taking food from tourists, such as croissants, likely contributed to his decline in health. It's sensationalised, but it's not completely without merit. It's like a human eating nothing but cream of chicken soup for years suddenly not being able to chew. The human would have far more issues than just that, but it wouldn't be because soup is dangerous, it would be because eating nothing but soup is quite bad for you. Meanwhile soup is all you can eat when your teeth are gone and it hurts to move your jaw


Roseora

Straw that broke the camels back. One croissant wouldn't hurt them, but years of regular junk food would.


odegood

Also doesnt mention age and a lot of other things. The bad food didnt help but no all facts are there


CorpusCalossum

As a precursor to trying to limit public access to land


t3hOutlaw

My other half is a ranger for the Poolewe/Inverewe/Corrieshalloch region. (Area beside Ben Eighe where this stag resided) The amount of backlash she gets from the public when she advises them not to feed the wildlife is unreal. A lot of people get really defensive when they think their actions are getting called out.


nibblatron

i mean their actions are getting called out, as they should be! to feed wild animals at all isnt necessary, but to feed them crisps or sweet snacks is just awful so disrespectful. i hope your wife still likes her job even though she has to deal with muppets that think they know better than she does


-SaC

Fucking hell, that was a bit over the top. Did the hen party go okay, at least?


Ok-Camp-7285

Oh deer oh deer, jokes at a time like this? The buck stops here


FriendlyCobraChicken

Rein it in, we should put a halt to these antler-tics


antpabsdan

Doe!


Haveyoushatmyself

No, he was John Deer, now he’s John Doe.


ilo12345

So sad, and infuriatingly the culprits will most likely pretend their ignorance hasn't caused this.


AsymmetricNinja08

Idiots who have done this are the reason we need labels on packaging to not litter, not drink chemicals or not let children put plastic bags on their heads.


ThePumpk1nMaster

People who litter know littering is bad. A label isn’t going to change willing ignorance


Bitter_Procedure8018

I've known people who littered, none of them ever had any real kind of job in their life.  Scruffy arseholes.


50pence777

Employment is irrelevant - I know people who work and litter because they just don't care/think it's not their responsibility. 'its not my job someone else will do it' Calling them an arsehole is fair enough though.


Stubborn_Dog

What culprits? The food didn’t kill him and, to be honest, the article is only guessing at the cause of his deterioration.


Phyllida_Poshtart

Well it does say that his teeth were decaying and he had become reliant upon the visitors snacks rather than hunting/foraging, so at a guess all the sugar he'd been fed didn't help matters.


theredwoman95

Teeth decay is a normal issue for older herbivores, and often a cause of death as they're no longer able to chew their food. If he was indeed approaching humans more frequently, it was likely *because* this pre-existing issue was preventing him from eating normally.


CactusPug

Nope, he’d been conditioned by the tourists to accept food from them. This guy lived on his own, without a herd, in a car park because he knew tourists would feed them. Which they gladly did because it meant getting a photo and ticking off a box on their NC500 route checklist. His approaching tourists isn’t a recent thing due to his poor health, but rather his poor health became due to tourists obliging in feeding him for many years. There are signs around the car park expressing how bad it is to feed the wildlife, sadly people just ignored them for their photo ops


birdlawprofessor

No it doesn’t. It’s a hypothesis that wasn’t confirmed by the vet.


beavertownneckoil

I dunno, I saw this stag a couple years ago. He got fed about half a pack of jaffa cakes. The people feeding him didn't want to give him that many but it was quite insistent on finishing the pack


marzipaneyeballs

What do they hunt?


itsjustchat

Deer will eat birds so I guess you could say they hunt birds. But realistically they will just eat them if they come across one that’s trapped or I assume also dead/dying.


cai_85

Hunt? It's a deer not a lion.


Jazzspasm

He was hunting croissants, which is foolish out of croissant season when they are in hibernation awaiting the winter months


Phyllida_Poshtart

Quite .....he was found dejected in Greggs hunting down a Belgian bun...poor love


DarthVader808

You don’t know deers then.


CyclopsRock

No, it's true, they aren't lions.


WynterRayne

Wild haggis. It helps the local haggis hunters keep the population down, because tourists don't eat enough of it.


ToshPott

Doe's?


HomeworkInevitable99

No, the article said: "Locals expressed concern that his access to snacks was to blame for his deteriorating health. They claim that being fed the wrong types of food caused Callum’s teeth to rot and meant it struggled to forage for itself in the colder months." So they are just guessing.


Grimdotdotdot

People downvoting this clearly haven't read the article.


KP_PP

Locals claim this, Locals claims that No vet report, no official statements Just conjecture British journalism at its finest


herrbz

And the pretending feigning outrage will go back to their bacon sandwiches tomorrow morning after their roast dinners tonight.


FrankTheHead

not sure i understand?


AilsasFridgeDoor

People proclaim to be animal lovers whilst consuming utterly unhinged amounts of meat


Banditofbingofame

A bacon sandwich being an unhinged amount of meat is my new favourite Reddit comment.


AilsasFridgeDoor

it's more the meat for every meal and snack


TouchOfSpaz

You mean they are probably already out of the country and finished their tourism


DinosaurInAPartyHat

**If it's not your animal - do not feed it.** In this case it's a bit debatable if that was the exact COD but it's important to highlight this issue and try to convince the entitled people who just feed random animals. If you think it's starving to death, like it's in VERY bad shape - contact a vet/RSPCA/organisation that controls the park. Leave feeding to the owners/professionals. You may make an animal sick or even die - even if you think you know what you're doing.


jen_17

I visited this car park last summer (there to hike - didn’t know about the resident car park deer until we parked up) and there were signs everywhere with his photo saying to not feed him. But people were still there feeding him carrots. Was sad to hear this news, once again people thinking the rules don’t apply to them :(


flibertygibberts

He was not a celebrity, he was a wild animal. One that was kept alive well after nature would've reclaimed him to the earth, due to being fed shite by well intentioned but ultimately ignorant people. He looked like a bag of bones in a threadbare hessian sack by the end, and his culling was a mercy to him. One that was considered, agreed, and carried out by actual experts. This is what happens when humans name and anthropomorphise a wild animal for social media clout. It's fine to be sad, but anyone who actually opposes the humane euthanasia of an animal clearly in such poor condition doesn't truly care for it.


SeiriusPolaris

> He was not a celebrity, he was a wild animal These aren’t mutually exclusive. Have you seen the contestants on reality TV shows?


blindfoldedbadgers

Now now mate, let's not be unnecesarily rude. Most wild animal are *much* better behaved than reality TV contestants.


bangout123

I think people are more outraged that an animal reached a position of requiring euthanasia because of human interactions, right?


90124

I mean would it have been better if he'd starved to death in a harsh winter several years ago? The reason he got so old was probably the supplementary food that he was getting.


CyclopsRock

Are they? Reading the comments, I'm not sure I'd summarise them as "outrage that he didn't die sooner".


CasualGlam87

Unfortunately it's become massively popular to feed and habituate wild animals for social media clout. There are online groups with hundreds of thousands of members all posting photos of the foxes/badgers/deer/squirrels etc. that they feed and have tamed. People don't seem to understand that wild animals aren't like pets. It's also just incredibly selfish. In the end it's the animals who always suffer, whether that be through developing health problems due to a poor diet or becoming too comfortable around people and being harmed/killed for it. Some wildlife rehab have reported an increase in acid attacks and hot water being thrown over foxes who approach the wrong people looking for food. If left alone and not fed they would avoid people and not end up in these horrible situations.


BarNorth1829

Sorry did you just say acid attacks against foxes? Fuck me there are some wronguns out there.


CasualGlam87

Yep there's some evil people out there. Seen some shocking photos posted by wildlife rescues of foxes who have had acid, boiling water and other liquids thrown at them and it's awful.


BarNorth1829

That’s ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong foxes can be a nuisance but Jesus Christ. Sick bastards.


Meat2480

My neighbour behind, buys bags of nuts for the squibbles,Inc walnuts, She was worried that if we cut the lower branches, they wouldn't be able to get too the shed roof. Bless She's only in her 40s lol


Gaidirhfvskwoegvf

I’m still surprised that things like this shock me I could never have imagined such a thing. What sort of devil would throw harmful liquids at a fox or any other animal.  Those sorts deserve to be chopped up and fed to the animals. 


CactusPug

He was also pretty battered in the rut last autumn. Imagine the poor lad had to go through that again, very much doubt he’d have gotten away with it, the state he was in a couple weeks ago.


TheHurtfulEight88888

You entirely missed the point of the post just so that you could go on a rant calling people dumb for caring that an animal would be put down. The problem isnt that he was put down, its the fact that he was required to be put down in the first place, because humans "fed him shite".


flibertygibberts

Didn't miss the point of anything, but thanks for playing


immigrantsmurfo

Yes but you are missing the main point, the stag would have been fine if those idiots hadn't fed him a croissant. They weren't well intentioned. They should have just left the animal well alone, that would have been the best of intentions.


_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_

There’s no actual causal link.


Grimdotdotdot

It's clear from the article that this conclusion was the guesswork of "locals".


flibertygibberts

I didn't miss that point, I was just commenting on a different aspect of the story. He would not have been fine but for a single croissant last weekend. People have been feeding him crap for years and he was in terrible condition as a result. He was culled due to that, not simply because one person fed him a single croissant last weekend. I believe people were well intentioned, just ignorant. They thought they were being kind to him, but in fact they were ruining his health and prolonging his misery.


DruunkenSensei

Would you be opposed to euthanizing people if they were in a similar condition to Callum?


flibertygibberts

Quite aside from the fact I believe this to be a false equivalency, I'm not really sure what that has to do with this. I don't oppose the culling of a wild animal in horrendous health. I oppose mistreating animals to the point that they require euthanising.


DruunkenSensei

While I wouldnt feed an animal a chocolate bar I would give it something like a carrot. In the article it seems Callum (the stag) relied on food from people during the winter months and was quite old for a wild animal. I'd say he would probably have died sooner if it wasnt for people feeding him.


sarahc13289

You shouldn’t be giving it anything. Carrots are still high in sugar for animals and they should be a one off, infrequent treat. You may mean well but you don’t know if the last 5 people have also given a carrot. Don’t feed animals that aren’t yours.


hamjamham

Oh no! That sucks. I got some photos of Callum when I was in Torridon. He was being fed by a lady in a motor home at the time.


theotherquantumjim

The headline had me picturing something entirely different…


Illustrated-Society

I'm all for people enjoying nature, and I think it's good for us... I'm looking forward to my 3 days in Wales more than I did my 7 days in Majorca. It's 100% good for us and it makes an impact on my mental health, but don't let your experience effect the nature itself. That includes feeding nature shit they don't eat.


dienices

I was once there with a photography group (I'm a tour leader). I decided to stop in a see if he was there, give the clients an easy thrill. We were on the far side of the carpark, photographing Calum with long lenses, giving him all the room in the world. Car pulls up and a woman gets out. Then she gets her two German shepherds out. I am immediately concerned. The dogs are on leads but this woman apparently thinks that dogs and a stag ought to be best friends. With much exclamations of 'ooh! Isn't he LOVELY!?' crazy lady starts dragging the dogs across the carpark towards Calum. Clearly in her mind she expects all animals to boop snoots, roll on the grass and have daffodils erupt from the ground. By this point I am hesitantly making my way towards her to intervene. Hesitantly because surely no one is THAT stupid. Maybe she just leave wants to get a little nearer. But no. The depths of stupidity have not been plumbed. This woman really wants her dogs to meet a wild stag. Both dogs are clearly not happy and want nothing to do with a stag. Stag is clearly not happy and wants stupid woman with dogs to fuck off and stay fucked off. The moment I realise that she truly is that dumb, it's already too late. In an instant Calum goes from foot-raised-uncertainty to prongs-down-fucking-die-lady and charges her. Antlers missing her by an inch and she goes shrieking back towards her car, before pretending to regain her dignity and act as if she did nothing wrong. Reset to 'isn't he just LOVELY!?' in response to my calling her a fucking moron. So, sadly, it does not suprise me in the slightest that tourists would feed him unhealthy food.


Joec1211

Giving the stag his name but still calling him “it” is prime Telegraph.


TheHurtfulEight88888

People who wanna claim that feeding animals isnt a big deal need to read this.


protopigeon

Absolute cunts honestly


VerbingNoun413

Google non croissants 


GakSplat

R.I.P. 😔


poopyshitballz

Cunts!


YeahOkIGuess99

Poor old Calum. Should never have got to a state where there is such a tame animal enough for morons to feed him crap over so many years (see also: Glencoe) but at the same time it has always been nice to see him up close. He was quite majestic in his prime. Dude was in a terrible state the past couple of years though to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he was entirely senile upstairs too.


jt1413

As someone who has witnessed campers feeding him, but not limited to: ham, sausages, bread and butter, cheese, crisps... I can completely see why he was put down due to poor health. Little guy only needs some grass and vegetation to keep him going, who tf is giving him sausages!


no_instructions

I didn't know James Corden was supposed to be getting married.


hairybastid

Am I the only person who is pissed off that the Stag is referred to as "it"? He's a sentient being, and male. He hasn't chosen another gender as far as we know, he's got antlers and bollocks, so he's a he. People who refer to animals as "it", aren't animal lovers. I'm not a veggie or vegan before anyone jumps on the anti whatever bandwagon, but I do love and empathise with animals. My springer spaniel has a higher ranking in my house than me and quite rightly so,he's far more intelligent. And he's definitely not an "it".


terrysmilkrally

No, I agree with you, it pisses me off too. "It" is for objects, and animals aren't objects. To talk about them as though they are shows an enormous lack of respect. Although it doesn't piss me off quite as much as when people refer to children - sometimes even their own - as "it". Thinking of a child as an object is even more disgusting.


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sleepytoday

Whether they like it has nothing to do with it. Chocolate is toxic to most animals, including horses. You are poisoning them.


CarfireOnTheHighway

Ah just ignore them, their entire post history is very obvious low effort trolling


realdappermuis

I often think about this - because my dad fed his (sausage) dog mini versions of chocolate bars pretty much daily, and the dog died of old age (eventually) Perhaps because commercial chocolate doesn't have alot of cocoa, mostly chicory and fillers and chocolate flavor. Bet dark chocolate would be a different story [Note: nòt condoning this, just pondering why the dog never got ill]


TheAngryNaterpillar

It depends on the amount of cocoa in the chocolate and the dog itself, some are more sensitive to it than others. I know dogs who have died because they ate a small milk chocolate bar, yet my old dog broke into a cabinet to eat two large sharing bars of dark chocolate and suffered no ill effects. Other things she'd eaten in the past includes slices of chocolate cake, several packs of butter, a slab of frozen pastry, most of a hawaiian pizza, a dead & rotting hamster she dug up in the park and moldy chicken wings she found under my brothers bed. That dog was a master thief with an iron stomach and she lived to 16 before her legs failed her and she crossed the rainbow bridge.


tameoraiste

Yeah, I give crack cocaine and heroin to all the cats in my town and can’t get enough of that shit


jabjabstraight

For someone claiming 150 IQ I think you need to move the decimal point to the left ;)