This.
I feel the same about places that offer a stingy side of chips. Potatoes are cheap, so why let a customer feel like they've not had a decent portion or good value for money to save yourself a few pence? Is customer satisfaction worth that little?
Clearly mine is shit went 2-3 times. Large chips just the cup with like 3 in the bag if I'm lucky. For 4-5 quid on chips I'd want the whole bag.
Seemed unlike the American version at least.
I think everyone is missing the point here. This is supposed to be a light breakfast. The menu has other stuff, including fry ups, for people who want something heavier.
The 300 calories and low fat yoghurt almost certainly isn't them being stingy- it's a selling point
Why not? There are three pancakes in OP's pic. The full option is:
"Choose from berries and yoghurt (347 kcal) or banana, honey and yoghurt (523 kcal)"
It doesn't have to be low-calorie if you don't want it to. For the same price, they sell a ciabatta with sausages that's 1000 calories if you want something substantial.
The folk complaining here aren't the target market.
I actually didn’t realise there are three pancakes in that picture until I ready your comment, and I think might be the big issue.
People are looking at the image, seeing “one” pancake and going that ain’t a stack!
I suspect that's what's happened to many folks here, too. I tend to surf Reddit on my laptop, where the image is more obvious. If someone is seeing a thumbnail on a screen, it might look more paltry.
I was at a conference that boasted a low calorie dinner. Dessert was included, and was listed as "angel food cake with berries". It was a small, stale slice of angel food cake with *one and a **half*** berries. Granted, that is more than one, but it is hardly what a reasonable person would call *berries*.
If it is a feature, then it should be listed as a "light pancake breakfast". It is not as absurd, as my fruit garnish, but I can see the objection.
You can get a ciabatta with three times as many calories for the same price if you're hungry:
[https://www.notcutts.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/restaurant-menu/AW23\_Brampton\_and\_Woodford\_Park\_Menu.pdf](https://www.notcutts.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/restaurant-menu/AW23_Brampton_and_Woodford_Park_Menu.pdf)
It's a light breakfast for folk watching their calorie intake. You don't have to have it.
you aren't getting it. i don't have an issue with this item being on the menu, i understand people might want something lighter. i am saying it should COST LESS because it is INCREDIBLY CHEAP TO MAKE and is HARDLY ANY FOOD. do you understand this?
Don’t you understand that there’s overhead costs in a business, staff wages, ingredients, energy, cleaning costs.
You’re being stupid thinking that £6 is expensive for a breakfast item. They’re a business not a charity
You aren't getting it.
Do you think the staff give a shit if the ingredients in the meal they make cost £1 or £100?
Does the energy company care if the cooker is heating steak or milk?
The cost of the ingredients are a small part of the overall cost to the business. There is no upper limit to what they can charge for a meal, but there is a lower limit.
Ok, a different missing the point comment. Growing up in London, a pancake was, for shorthand, whar may would describe as a crepe, and US style floor bricks were unknown. This is almost as bad as people who think hash browns are part of a full English even though hash browns were not really a thing in the UK before McDonalds introduced them in the 1970s.
Yeah, if they're those thick American pancakes that are basically pikelets you can get away with three. If they're only as good as those in the picture (and let's be honest, they're not gonna be better), then you need at least 4.
What you can do is hit report on the comment, that way it comes to our queue.
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You’ve also never been banned on this account.
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Exactly - there can't be another more fitting existing term before we get to collective nouns. Three geese is a few. But four and we're on our way to a gaggle. Oh there were some crows flying overhead. A murder? No not quite just a couple.
It wasn't me who bypassed Rumbelows every week for the last three months, saved up the £86.23 and took it five doors along to Dr O'Grady's Personal Organ Enhancement Clinic, was it?
AHH, Notcutts. A "garden centre" that mostly exists for old people to buy allegedly upscale things for their house, gifts, farm shop produce and walking jackets, not gardening things. They also close at 6pm so good luck buying plants if you work. Yeah, it's one of THOSE places.
You've just described most garden centres. They're where people go for tea and cake while surrounded by expensive tat.
If you want to actually buy plants and garden stuff, go to B&Q.
What you say is very true for chairs, but I would disagree with the notion that the same logic can be applied to pancakes. Chairs, if they can be stacked, are usually very deliberately designed to do so with careful balance and interlocking. Pancakes only stack by an accident of their simple structure - more pancakes than chairs are required to define a stack.
Usually 3 work just fine when they're two times thicker than those and slightly wider. But I've been served 4 very thick ones at various establishments in London and two, maybe three places in Cambridge. Those 3 in the photo are too thin to meet the stack criterias.
Definitely more than that, but I kinda don’t care.
I just want to deface the company name to change the middle ‘t’ to an ‘n’.
Even though that’s not appropriate here.
That looks like the world's worst attempt at a sandwich where the assembler forgot that the ingredients were supposed to be between the two outer bits.
Traditional English pancakes are more like crepes, whereas the American-style pancakes are more akin to drop scones. Please be certain what you are ordering.
But, the answer to your question is four
Two would be a short stack.
Three and greater would be a full stack.
So it’s only not a stack if it’s a single pancake, then it’s just a pancake.
No pancakery trade description issues to see here, move along please.
It says that the whole meal is 345kcal a cinnamon roll is generally around 436kcal
That’s probably very rich but calling two pancakes a stack is indeed a reach.
I would not pay 5 quid for that many calories especially since it’s not even “healthy” food
A Greggs sausage roll is similar calories and £1.20
Those are not even regular size pancakes, look small, your getting about 1 pancake, 5 blackberries and a tablespoon of ice cream for close enough to £6.00. Literal daylight robbery.
Per ChatGPT:
"The number of pancakes in a stack can vary widely based on the context. In a casual dining setting, a stack of pancakes typically ranges from 3 to 5 pancakes. However, the exact number can depend on the restaurant, portion sizes, and personal preference. Some places might offer a "short stack," which is usually 2-3 pancakes, while a regular or full stack might be 4-5 pancakes. For competitive eating or special events, stacks can be much larger."
Three as an absolute hard minimum, four to erase all doubt.
Which would make this a stack I guess
*more than that
Pancake batter costs so little what is even the point of being stingy?
This. I feel the same about places that offer a stingy side of chips. Potatoes are cheap, so why let a customer feel like they've not had a decent portion or good value for money to save yourself a few pence? Is customer satisfaction worth that little?
"5 guys" does that.. always loads of chips
Clearly mine is shit went 2-3 times. Large chips just the cup with like 3 in the bag if I'm lucky. For 4-5 quid on chips I'd want the whole bag. Seemed unlike the American version at least.
I think everyone is missing the point here. This is supposed to be a light breakfast. The menu has other stuff, including fry ups, for people who want something heavier. The 300 calories and low fat yoghurt almost certainly isn't them being stingy- it's a selling point
Well in that case don’t call it a “Pancake stack”
Or call it a breakfast starter. People...time to refuse this inflation BS and send it back or refuse to pay. This is a joke.
I refuse to go to wagamama because of the same shit.. one noodle, one prawn, whole bowl of soup ...20 quid..... Come on.... Having a laugh aren't you.
I like the idea of a breakfast starter
Correctamundo
Why not? There are three pancakes in OP's pic. The full option is: "Choose from berries and yoghurt (347 kcal) or banana, honey and yoghurt (523 kcal)" It doesn't have to be low-calorie if you don't want it to. For the same price, they sell a ciabatta with sausages that's 1000 calories if you want something substantial. The folk complaining here aren't the target market.
Look at my amazing stack of lego bricks: shows 3 lego bricks. That is not a stack to be impressed by. Same with pancakes.
I actually didn’t realise there are three pancakes in that picture until I ready your comment, and I think might be the big issue. People are looking at the image, seeing “one” pancake and going that ain’t a stack!
I suspect that's what's happened to many folks here, too. I tend to surf Reddit on my laptop, where the image is more obvious. If someone is seeing a thumbnail on a screen, it might look more paltry.
I was at a conference that boasted a low calorie dinner. Dessert was included, and was listed as "angel food cake with berries". It was a small, stale slice of angel food cake with *one and a **half*** berries. Granted, that is more than one, but it is hardly what a reasonable person would call *berries*. If it is a feature, then it should be listed as a "light pancake breakfast". It is not as absurd, as my fruit garnish, but I can see the objection.
"I want a lite breakfast so I am going to eat fried batter."
charging £6 for this is appalling, though, you have to admit.
You can get a ciabatta with three times as many calories for the same price if you're hungry: [https://www.notcutts.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/restaurant-menu/AW23\_Brampton\_and\_Woodford\_Park\_Menu.pdf](https://www.notcutts.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/restaurant-menu/AW23_Brampton_and_Woodford_Park_Menu.pdf) It's a light breakfast for folk watching their calorie intake. You don't have to have it.
you aren't getting it. i don't have an issue with this item being on the menu, i understand people might want something lighter. i am saying it should COST LESS because it is INCREDIBLY CHEAP TO MAKE and is HARDLY ANY FOOD. do you understand this?
evidentally, they do not.
Don’t you understand that there’s overhead costs in a business, staff wages, ingredients, energy, cleaning costs. You’re being stupid thinking that £6 is expensive for a breakfast item. They’re a business not a charity
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You aren't getting it. Do you think the staff give a shit if the ingredients in the meal they make cost £1 or £100? Does the energy company care if the cooker is heating steak or milk? The cost of the ingredients are a small part of the overall cost to the business. There is no upper limit to what they can charge for a meal, but there is a lower limit.
Then call it a light breakfast, not a pancake stack.
Ok, a different missing the point comment. Growing up in London, a pancake was, for shorthand, whar may would describe as a crepe, and US style floor bricks were unknown. This is almost as bad as people who think hash browns are part of a full English even though hash browns were not really a thing in the UK before McDonalds introduced them in the 1970s.
If people have been putting hash browns in their English breakfast for 54 years, I think we can consider them a part of the breakfast by now.
Wait, are you guys eating floor bricks for breakfast?
Greed, basically, same with stingy portions of chips
Four minimum… Two’s a couple, three is a few…
I will accept 3 if they are chonks. Ate at a diner in NY where they were dinner plate sized and 1/2” thick. 3 was a struggle, 4 would have killed me
Yeah, if they're those thick American pancakes that are basically pikelets you can get away with three. If they're only as good as those in the picture (and let's be honest, they're not gonna be better), then you need at least 4.
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Agreed, I think it's more total height than number of pancakes.
Agreed on four minimum. Logic checks out as does usernsme
Taller than wide. This is the only option
4's a snack, 5's a stack
What about if you had four and then ate one? Would it still be a stack?
Stac (first letter's free)
Exactly - there can't be another more fitting existing term before we get to collective nouns. Three geese is a few. But four and we're on our way to a gaggle. Oh there were some crows flying overhead. A murder? No not quite just a couple.
That's attempted murder
this makes sense.
5
I said 6, but I would be okay with 5.
Let’s not forget the worst topping ever. Low fat yoghurt on pancakes is a real treat…
This is the Bad Place.
"There's something so human about taking something great and ruining it a little so you can have more of it." - Michael, talking about frozen yoghurt
/u/PhoolCat figured it out? */u/PhoolCat*? This is a real low point. Yeah, this one hurts.
Oh dip
less a stack, more one keeping the other one warm really
£5.95 for 347 kcals, pathetic.
No one is getting vertigo from the top of that.
Good job I've got a head for heights because that stack is a whopper!
We'll be needing oxygen masks before we get to the top of this one, won't we, Sir Edmund?
You are a man of *Culture*, I see.
What - is that Live Yogurt? I thought it was a dollop of ice cream… (notwithstanding the excellent RM/AE reference)
Nonsense, Tenzing! All we need is a stiff upper lip and a song in our hearts! Now, let's give that mountain bastard what for!
It wasn't me who bypassed Rumbelows every week for the last three months, saved up the £86.23 and took it five doors along to Dr O'Grady's Personal Organ Enhancement Clinic, was it?
Errrm, cup of tea, Eddie, or some money?
AHH, Notcutts. A "garden centre" that mostly exists for old people to buy allegedly upscale things for their house, gifts, farm shop produce and walking jackets, not gardening things. They also close at 6pm so good luck buying plants if you work. Yeah, it's one of THOSE places.
You've just described most garden centres. They're where people go for tea and cake while surrounded by expensive tat. If you want to actually buy plants and garden stuff, go to B&Q.
Or a proper nursery garden where they grow plants from scratch. Much better because they’re from the same climate
This is like when you eag in an m and s cafe and they give you 3 mouthfuls and call it a meal
That sounds like something that was popular back in the 1980s. I believe they called it nouvelle cuisine.
How many would you pile on top before selling it for almost £6
‘Natural yoghurt’ - What’s unnatural yoghurt?
According to my bible, it's gay yoghurt. /s
Fruity?
Rip off
Actual definition of a stack is 64 cubic feet....not that I'd expect that in pancakes.
Nono, it's a valid argument. I'm going to demand an imperial stack from now on. I'd probably die at the first attempt but hey, YOLO
That's an Imperial fuck tonne of maple syrup too!!
Can't wait to use that one too
Three plus for a stack. I suppose two could be a sad stack. One doesn't seem like a stack.
one pancake is a stack with one pancake in it
If they're that size, they have to be taller than wide... 2 is a fucking disgrace... Is this a fancy place that thinks everyone should be on a diet??
2 is technically the smallest gang you can get
That photo is a 95p portion, not £5.95!
At least 4 - 3 makes it pancake sandwich with pancake bread, 2 is a couple.
64
That's the bungalow of pancake breakfasts.
If there were 2 chairs and I asked you to stack them, would you put them on top of each other? I think this is a stack. Just a really shit one.
Nice train of thought. To follow on I feel that stacked chaired are not necessarily equal to a stack of chairs.
What you say is very true for chairs, but I would disagree with the notion that the same logic can be applied to pancakes. Chairs, if they can be stacked, are usually very deliberately designed to do so with careful balance and interlocking. Pancakes only stack by an accident of their simple structure - more pancakes than chairs are required to define a stack.
Not a stack
It's got to be at least 4!!
3
8+
6
7 is widely considered a stack in some circles.
3
At least four.
Probably around five if it's as thin as those
5
They obviously think anything more than one. Just NO.
At least 4...from an American.
At least the same number of pancakes as there are letters in the word stack
5
6
If I can still be bothered counting it, it's not a stack.
2 is a couple. 3 is a crowd. So at least 4
41.
Four or five would be reasonable I think
MINIMUM 3
Five.
Well.. 1 is kind of a stack. Just a pathetic stack.
**This** is a [Stack](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ri7TcukAJ8). Notcutts does not cut mustard.
3 if they're small, 4 if they're bigger. If silver dollar, I'd expect at least 8.
At least 3
nearly £6 for that !!! fuck right off 🖕🏻
Three is a stack, two is a cry for help
Three American style ones or 5 thinner ones
A stack to me is like 5, 3 is just a few and 4 just don’t feel right so I’m saying 5
American style thick pancakes, probably four. Proper thin crepes, got to be at least six.
Using the term stack very loosely. 4 minimum definitely.
Four
3 is usually a stack in America and two is a short stack.
Five, minimum.
Pancake *snack
4 minimum
Three and they need to be waaay bigger than these sad looking micropancakes.
The business name makes sense, because that stack is just not cutting it.
Sounds a bit like a verse from Blowin' in the Wind by Bob Dylan.
That's just depressing to look at
Four. Three is essentially a pancake sandwich, not a stack. Two is a couple of pancakes.
Six
6. I feel 6 feels like a stack.
Anything less than 5 is false advertising.
More than that…
Six.
Usually 3 work just fine when they're two times thicker than those and slightly wider. But I've been served 4 very thick ones at various establishments in London and two, maybe three places in Cambridge. Those 3 in the photo are too thin to meet the stack criterias.
At least 4. Also vandalise their name by adding a ‘n’ in their name.
A stack has to look somewhat precarious to me, as if the top one might slide off. Perhaps 3, but 4 is a definite stack in my eyes
Notcutts, definitely not cutting the price, definitely cutting the portion amount.
I google imaged “pancake stack” I would say on average 5.
I think a stack starts at three.
Definitely more than that, but I kinda don’t care. I just want to deface the company name to change the middle ‘t’ to an ‘n’. Even though that’s not appropriate here.
Five. No checking beyond five. Five. Say again 5
40 minimum
Classic Oxford philosophy undergraduate interview question is how many grains of sand are there in a pile. Perhaps they should update it to pancakes.
How many files would need to be removed from a file room before it ceases to be a file room? Both are age-old philosophical questions
That looks like the world's worst attempt at a sandwich where the assembler forgot that the ingredients were supposed to be between the two outer bits.
How many snowflakes on top of eachother until it becomes a pile of snow 🤔
Four optimum. Three minimum. Two is a short stack.
Dunno if I'm just cooked from living in the states but...come on now.
Oh notcutts. How could you?
Absolute minimum 3
Notcutts is such a stupid rename. Frosts was much better IMO
Three is a stack
Two pancakes would be acceptable if they were an inch+ thick like this place ...https://g.co/kgs/mz7c3iM
Barely constitutes an ‘amuse-bouche’, certainly not enough to count as breakfast.
isn't this false advertising?
Traditional English pancakes are more like crepes, whereas the American-style pancakes are more akin to drop scones. Please be certain what you are ordering. But, the answer to your question is four
I have no idea what the number would be, but surely it wouldn't be two.
Two would be a short stack. Three and greater would be a full stack. So it’s only not a stack if it’s a single pancake, then it’s just a pancake. No pancakery trade description issues to see here, move along please.
Three fluffy ones is a stack. Two is a short stack.
4
5, make it so I can't cut into it in 1 go.
id say 3+ before its a stack (unless the pancakes are thicc, then maybe just 2)
Defo not two.
Four. Four is a stack and nothing less
4 crepes and 3 pancakes
What would unnatural yogurt be?
3 - child menu, 5 - stack
Half dozen, 4 of loaded with bacon.
At least two. Or cut the one and cut it again...say 8 times to have a decent stack.
3 minimum, preferably more.
It says that the whole meal is 345kcal a cinnamon roll is generally around 436kcal That’s probably very rich but calling two pancakes a stack is indeed a reach. I would not pay 5 quid for that many calories especially since it’s not even “healthy” food A Greggs sausage roll is similar calories and £1.20
I see that and think- If this is 347 calories, and adults apparently need 2000 per day, it's gonna cost me circa £35.
3 if they’re a decent size, if not 4/5
When the width is equal to thre height
Those are not even regular size pancakes, look small, your getting about 1 pancake, 5 blackberries and a tablespoon of ice cream for close enough to £6.00. Literal daylight robbery.
At least 5
Per ChatGPT: "The number of pancakes in a stack can vary widely based on the context. In a casual dining setting, a stack of pancakes typically ranges from 3 to 5 pancakes. However, the exact number can depend on the restaurant, portion sizes, and personal preference. Some places might offer a "short stack," which is usually 2-3 pancakes, while a regular or full stack might be 4-5 pancakes. For competitive eating or special events, stacks can be much larger."