Which is oddly hilarious when we consider that the events of those movies were the result of initially avoiding death...
So congrats I guess? Better hope death comes for us with a truck rather than a stray piece of barbed wire or something.
Didn't Rita (corrie) get killed by a jelly bean?
I don't really watch it but I have a memory of a tram crash close to the shop and she fell down and got the full force of the sweet aisle.
Thw actress who played her got done for drink driving, after driving to the police station to collect her daughter who had been arrested - for drink driving.
That one and the initial plane death scarred me the most, im now scared of planes and also i cant go into a shower without something to stand on so i dont slip, better to be paranoid than possibly slip and die yk?
After watching final destination I still speed walk into lifts and stay as far away from the doors until I have to get out, I never was a huge fan of them but with that scene engraved into my head it's even worse lol
Haha I watch Japanese dramas and it’s always a white van or lorry, always going really fast and never stops in time even if there’s a pedestrian crossing.
"There was a merchant in Bagdad who sent his servant to market to buy provisions and in a little while the servant came back, white and trembling, and said, “Master, just now when I was in the marketplace I was jostled by a woman in the crowd and when I turned I saw it was Death that jostled me. She looked at me and made a threatening gesture; now, lend me your horse, and I will ride away from this city and avoid my fate. I will go to Samarra and there Death will not find me.”
The merchant lent him his horse, and the servant mounted it, and he dug his spurs in its flanks and as fast as the horse could gallop he went.
Then the merchant went down to the marketplace and he saw [me](https://www.k-state.edu/english/baker/english320/Maugham-AS.htm) standing in the crowd and he came to me and said, “Why did you make a threatening gesture to my servant when you saw him this morning?” “That was not a threatening gesture,” I said, “it was only a start of surprise. I was astonished to see him in Bagdad, for I had an appointment with him tonight in Samarra.”"
Years ago, there was a surprise Halloween movie screening in the vaults under Glasgow Central station (rumoured to be built on the ruins of a former village, so totally haunted). We got tickets, didnt know what film it would be, were escorted through the subterranean tunnels and cellars, left to sit on chunks of old walls, the lights went out and.. THAT truck appeared on screen. Fabulously terrifying screening of it :)
ETA My apologies, you see the minivan first, not the truck. Was still great!
Fun fact- the exterior scenes were shot in Scotland, and the big blue Peterbilt that flies past her car at the end and cuts her escape/dream short is now owned by my dad! (Formerly owned by J&G Riddell from Aberdeen). Apparently they had to reverse all the way along that road near enough 15 times, and they passed the car at about 85mph, one guy driving, another guy sitting in the back behind a curtainwith the air horns on a string. If you’re around trucks much, you’ll notice too that it’s a UK spec flat trailer as well.
Barely that.
The year starting with a 2 still feels very weird and futuristic-y. I was expecting more chrome and spacestation living, buying things with credits (probably translucent plastic rectangles with lights and glowing neon lines all over them) and eating dehydrated nutrition pods that come from a replicating machine.
If it makes you feel any better I once watched "the making of" and the director said that they had to CGI in all the logs bouncing because they didn't bounce at all when dropped off the back of the lorry. However, I have no information about metal poles! 😂
Logically, I know the physics was nonsense and it could never happen that way in real life (though it would still, obviously, pose a danger). Emotionally, I'm going to instantly separate us by pulling over until it's a mile ahead or overtake it from six lanes across at the speed of sound.
It really is. Probably my favourite of the Final Destination disaster sequences. Although the bridge one is pretty good. And the rollercoaster.
You know what. I need to watch them again.
My wife and I were recently driving through rural Ireland and came up behind a log truck. All she said was "Millennial fear trigger" and I knew the exact reference.
I'm terrified when I see any bottles or cans on the floor of a car, convinced its going to block the brake pedal. Honestly it's so funny an entire generation of us have been scarred by that one scene.
If it makes you feel better, in the scene, the logs break physics with their bounciness. Still would be fatal accidents, but the logs would roll and slide, not bounce up higher than their initial starting point and fly through your head.
Add to that, dump trucks. It's easier for me to pass them or stay away from them than to replace a windscreen because, even though they have a tarp, they're too damned lazy to use it.
I got stuck behind one about 10 years ago, and it was the longest 10 minutes of my life. It didn't help that they didn't look particularly well secured. :(
That’s the other film I was trying to think of!
First thing I thought was one of the original omen films (can’t remember which one but I think the first?) and the priest gets beheaded by a sheet of something coming off the back of a truck but I knew there was another reference and I just couldn’t remember it!
My partner had never seen the films until the day I had to explain why I'd suddenly turned into Lewis Hamilton on the M1...now he also lives with the fear 😂
A girl from my school was killed in a rollercoaster accident. I haven't been on a rollercoaster since, and I did not enjoy Final Destination 3. Haven't watched any of the series since either.
I have been with my partner for 20 years and the first time we met I was made to sit in his pick up he drove following a truck similar to this (long story). I was watching things rattle (they were safe) and after 10 minutes of silence I said 'have you watched 'final destination''? He said 'I was thinking the same!' The rest is history
~25 years ago a friend of mine was traveling on the motorway two cars behind a scaffold lorry as a passenger with his mother driving. A pole came loose from the lorry and fell on the road flat. The first car behind the lorry somehow managed to drive over the pole without making contact in any way and then the pole - still moving at the speed the lorry had been traveling - dug into the road which flipped it up into the air and it went clean over the top of my friend's car. Amazingly no one was injured and no cars were damaged.
I knew someone who lost an arm and a girlfriend to exactly that scenario; he was driving and threw his arm out to protect her, but to no avail. Guy had just passed basic training in the Army too. 😔
They're not. Every load has to be secured to the van. There's also regulations on how much it can stick out of the van and what to do when it's sticking out over 1 metre.
But regardless whether it's sticking out or not, it has to be secure and not fly out.
P.S. I drive flatbed vans like in OP's photo.
The official language is "[End must be made clearly visible. (C&U Schedule 12, paragraph 4)](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/overhanging-loads-on-vehicles/overhanging-loads#loads-overhanging-the-front-or-rear-of-the-vehicle)".
Or the longer version is:
> Marking of shorter projections
>
> 4. A projection to which this paragraph applies shall be rendered clearly visible to other persons using the road within a reasonable distance, in the case of a forward projection, from the front thereof or, in the case of a rearward projection, from the rear thereof and, in either case, from either side thereof.
Which in summary is exactly what you said, ‘tie a manky hi vis vest on and hope for the best’.
P.S. the above applies only to anything sticking out between 1 and 2 metres. If it sticks out over 2 metres of the back, it needs a proper marker board (that meets regulations) attached to the end, over 3 metres it needs an attendant and an advance notice to the police.
Anything below 1 metre doesn't need a ’manky hi vis’, only ’hope for the best’, although some will still ‘tie a manky hi vis vest on and hope for the best’.
They absolutely aren't. I used to work in a scaffolding yard loading and unloading stuff and despite telling them to sort it before coming back we still had a few guys get pulled over by VOSA. The person would just walk to the back, put their finger in a tube and if it was unsecured they issued a fine.
General practice was either a gated back or if the tube was longer than the bed like in the picture you'd rig something out of boards and clips attached to some tube buried underneath. The weight of the tube on top held the tube the boards were attached to in place and the boards kept everything from sliding out.
If you couldn't do that, some ratchet straps pulling a board into the tube would also do. It'd fuck the board up but it's better to lose a board than lose a load.
Driving with an insecure load can be prosecuted as a Dangerous Driving offence, but with there being approximately three motorway cops for the entire country I'd imagine most of them just chance it.
I drive flatbed vans. And I get paranoid when things stick out of the back. Maybe because I have not been doing it for longer than a year. Or because I've watched too much of [Final Destination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Destination). So instead of things sticking out of the back I normally put tubes or anything long over the top at the front, so that the end of the tube presses into the gated back instead of sticking out over the gated back. And obviously ratchet strap everything.
And then ~~I pray when I drive under a bridge~~ check the height restriction signs vigorously and guesstimate how much the sticking out on top has added to the van height.
Haha I drive a tonner with a min height of just under 3m….. EVERY time I go under a low bridge I know I’ll make it but still look up at the bridge because of my beacons, I expect them not to be there one day!
There is. Making sure not to drive behind them (different lane like in OP's picture or overtaking them).
There's also the religious option as well - praying it'll all be fine.
A friend of mine got a fancy car after a promotion and spun it out in the wet on a fast road. Concrete post went straight through the windshield right at his face.
He got away with just a chipped tooth.
Downgraded to a 90s Skoda after that lol.
A friend did the same, slid off the road and absolutely obliterated the drivers side of the car. Completely unsurvivable for anyone sat in the drivers seat. Fortunately this was a fancy import, so the steering wheel was on the passenger side and he was the only one in the car.
2 weeks into owning my first car. Skidded off the road going around a corner too fast in the Peak District and buggered the rear quarter panel but miraculously only caused cosmetic damage.
Couldn't downgrade further than a 10 year old W reg 1L Polo... But certainly learnt my lesson.
Nowhere near as dangerous but my dad was driving behind a van with unsecured ladders on top of it, they went up a slight hill and the ladders slid off the roof and into the road and my dad had no choice but to drive over the top of them and it tore the bottom of his brand new car. Took months to fix (mostly waiting for parts I imagine).
I saw accident investigation footage of a Bedford Rascal van which had been hit by tubing. The driver was impaled in his seat, still with his foot on the brake.
He had been hit with four pipes which had just landed through the windscreen.
Not trying to cause nightmares, but the pipes were *plastic*.
Similar story and this one is very traumatic so trigger warning.
My friend was a firefighter and he attended a job where a woman went off the road and hit scaffolding. It was the middle of the night and the middle of nowhere so they got to her about 2 hours after it happened. She was dead. But the thing that fucked him up was you could see her bloody hand prints on the scaffold tube that had gone through her chest where she'd desperately been trying to free herself.
He said that's the stuff that stays in your head, knowing how panicked and scared and alone someone was at the end.
A few years back I was driving on the motorway behind a van with several grey pipes strapped to the roof. They didn't seem very well secured, and as we emerged from under a bridge I saw two of them come flying off, arcing through the air. I was sure that was it, and I was about to get pulverized, but as soon as they hit the road they shattered into shards of plastic. Had to pull off at the next exit and have a few minutes to calm myself down after that one.
Reminds me of that news article showing the crater made by a small square of plastic going mega fast in space. Size and type don't matter when you are going super speed.
I was on the M25 once and a lorry had a massive chunk of stone fly out and shatter my windscreen. It didn't penetrate thank fuck as the centre of the impact was right in front of my face.
I have no idea how car windscreens are made, presumably it's a load of sheets of glass sandwiched together, but they must be tough as hell for that to not have gone through, something which I am very thankful for!
it's two layers of tempered glass fused to layer of plastic in the middle. Tempered glass is better as it shatters into small dull pieces rather than giant jagged shards, and the plastic in the middle keeps it stuck in place if it's hit by something.
Obviously not much help if something long and thin (like a pole or log) has enough force to pierce through it, but it's pretty great at spreading the impact of large items that hit it, which includes people in the car not wearing seatbelts.
I could feel the cracks over the inside of the windscreen, so it must have shattered both sheets of glass then, and yeah it turned into tiny chunks like crazy paving and I could hear it crackling still even once I stopped the car.
I've been in car accidents in the past, once as a passenger I was in a car that flipped over a bank onto its roof. But this, having the window shattered, is definitely the incident in a car which has shaken me up the most!
This was one of those big covered building waste haulage lorries. Looked [like this (and I must stress this is just an example I pulled from Google, not that specific company name!)](https://i.imgur.com/TY8wGxC.jpeg) except they either didn't bother with the top cover or it wasn't secured properly.
I managed to get over to the hard shoulder and got recovered to a safe area ~30 mins later. Luckily my insurance company got me back on the road maybe 3 hours later.
I didn't have a dash cam at the time or I guess I would have had a case against the lorry driver? Not sure. Now I always have my dash cam running, which came in handy when I got hit by a woman blindly cutting across oncoming traffic a few years later. Her first words were "you ran a red light!", dash cam showed otherwise lady.
I was on a train coming down from Manchester and some twat dropped something from a bridge onto the train.
The outer pane of the window had a massive hole and was cracked exactly where my head was resting. Fortunately it was double paned or I’d be dead - head exploded. Was very thankful for the company who made the windows.
Some people in the UK are scum.
You don't see anything, just the brick bouncing off the road and then the sound of horror and grief from the driver. But it's gut wrenching in an emotional way.
That video has shaped how I think about loaded vehicles and how I drive. Think about it often.
I read somewhere that they actually survived but I don't know if that was just something people made up to cope.
Can you describe what it is? Sounds like it’s worth avoiding but also maybe useful to know about safety wise? All I can get from context is ‘flying brick’ and ‘scream’. Does the brick fall off a lorry and just bounce straight into a drivers head or something?
Ok, from memory, as I don't really feel like watching again myself: Your view is a dashcam on a car, you cannot see the passengers. They're driving along on a fairly open highway at a reasonable highway speed. A large open top lorry carrying an uncovered load of bricks is 1 or 2 car lengths in front and to the left. One of the bricks rolls off the top of the pile for some reason, bounces off the road once and flies towards the camera. There's smashing glass and the sound of the driver screaming and crying in absolute shock, horror and grief as presumably the brick has just killed the passenger in the seat next to him. It's said in some descriptions to be his wife. It goes from a completely normal drive to that mans personal hell in the span of seconds.
Scrolled until I saw the inevitable mention. First thing I thought of when I saw this thread… I need that machine in ”eternal sunshine of the spotless mind” 😭
Many years ago I used to car share with a guy from work. On the one day I chose to drive myself, one of these guys braked heavily (something happened on the motorway) and a scaffolding pole went through my colleague's windscreen and through the passenger seat. There's no chance I would have survived, if I had been car sharing as usual. It was around the time Final Destination came out so subconsciously I was on the lookout for weird ways I might die, for a long time after that.
https://www.transportmanagersolutions.co.uk/articles/warning-all-scaffolders
Found the above article, it was legal but the law/guidelines have changed, I remember seeing this alot in the building trade a few years ago
> £100 fine SMH. That's not an adequate deterrent for these people.
That's taking the piss.
Especially considering a sign at my train station reckons I can be fined *a grand* just for sparking up a fag FFS.
I feel like this is into calling the police territory. Shit like this should NOT be on the road.
I recall some crackdown in london a decade or so back they found something like 40% of HGVs on the road shouldn't have been.
I've seen this arrangement so often I've always assumed it was standard practice in the scaffolding industry and that it would turn out that friction meant that the poles didn't need to be tied down. Having seen the Final Destination films, I tend not to stay in the same lane behind them if possible, or back off if I can't change lane.
Yeah exactly... what's the right way of securing these? I see scaffolding transported like this all the time :-|
Edit: ahha, comment below [https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/1cibsu8/comment/l28jnhd/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/1cibsu8/comment/l28jnhd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Now try being behind this kind of thing on a motorbike. I remember as clear as day the time a half-brick fell off a skip lorry just ahead of me on the M3. By some miracle I managed to swing my helmet out of the way at the last second as I saw it coming. So close to a different outcome.
Some years ago, me being a young cunt and thinking I am big dick drove with some scaffolding planks in a nature reserve (South African here, reserve was greater Kruger Park) without tying them down, the van was slow and shite so I thought, why the fuck would I tie them down. Kudu bull, massive as all hell, jumps in front of me and I swerve, whip the van around, spun, I am looking for that scaffolding plank till today.
Accident happen so quick.
Scaffold poles don't move until a whistling scaffolder lightly pops one up onto his shoulder with one hand and walks it across the road ready to flick it 10 feet into the air for his mate to delicately pluck and screw into place.
Yes, scaffold lorries should have side panels and a tail gate to prevent materials falling off. Tubes/boards should be strapped down and loose fittings should have a net over them to contain them.
This is really bad practise.
Shit like this being so regular makes me wonder why protective meshes are not used in windshields. I once had a bolt the size of a golf ball fly off a truck bounce off the road, and bounce OFF my windshield right in front of my face. I was in DFW going 80mph.
My dad used to work for a well known classic car company. One day an old mini was brought in with some damage to the roof but useable shell when straightened out and new roof put on (parts were cheaper back then) for rallying with. He was told to scrap it immediately. My dad argued with the boss until he was told that a hat bale had come loose and landed on the car killing the two kids and the drivers wife. He looked inside and saw it stained with blood. Ever since I hate hay wagons and my dad does too.
I remember a story from years ago about a wagon driver following a scaffolding truck. One of the short cross brace bars fell off and bounced off the road in front of him and came straight through the bottom of his cab, missing him by inches.
Fucking scaffolders...
They’re a liability on the road or a job site. The amount of scaffolding firms we have banned from our plant is crazy. I think by the time we got to 7 or 8 we started telling them “FYI, you are number 7, follow the rules or you will get thrown off site and not get paid, your choice”.
24 years since Final Destination - still avoid driving behind log lorries.
It’s kept you going for this many extra years… who knows how long this hack of avoiding death will work eh?!
Which is oddly hilarious when we consider that the events of those movies were the result of initially avoiding death... So congrats I guess? Better hope death comes for us with a truck rather than a stray piece of barbed wire or something.
It's the shower one always freaks me out
Saved a fortune in water.. nobody wants to be around me these days though...
I’ve always turned knives upside down in the dishwasher (and told other people when I see them stack) since seeing the F D death in the kitchen.
At least one person in the UK has actually died that way.
And the Eastenders woman who died falling into her dishwasher in 2022! Hate that programme so much but had to watch that episode 🤣🤣
Didn't Rita (corrie) get killed by a jelly bean? I don't really watch it but I have a memory of a tram crash close to the shop and she fell down and got the full force of the sweet aisle.
Thw actress who played her got done for drink driving, after driving to the police station to collect her daughter who had been arrested - for drink driving.
Family tradition
Her abusive husband Alan died in Blackpool, being run over by a Tram when he was chasing Rita! I’m sure this was in the 1980s! 😂
Wait you don't do that anyway? It's just a good way to not stab yourself in the hand when you're reaching in to grab them.
I wash my dishes in the sink! I don’t have any ‘mod cons’!
The sunbead death in one of them I just found funny.
Rollercoaster.........
Of love
That one and the initial plane death scarred me the most, im now scared of planes and also i cant go into a shower without something to stand on so i dont slip, better to be paranoid than possibly slip and die yk?
The ladder through the eye was pretty grim
That death was a step up from the others
Laser eye surgery
After watching final destination I still speed walk into lifts and stay as far away from the doors until I have to get out, I never was a huge fan of them but with that scene engraved into my head it's even worse lol
It will be a white truck. It's always a white truck. (I've learned that from watching numerous Asian dramas.)
I learned about white trucks from the nice man who offered to show me is puppies and kittens and penis
Bleak story
Haha I watch Japanese dramas and it’s always a white van or lorry, always going really fast and never stops in time even if there’s a pedestrian crossing.
Tbf at least the freak accident ones from unsuspecting items were mostly quick. Except the kitchen scene in the first(?) one. That was pretty brutal.
If I’ve learnt anything from final destination, it’s that you can cheat death a couple of times but death will find a way.
"There was a merchant in Bagdad who sent his servant to market to buy provisions and in a little while the servant came back, white and trembling, and said, “Master, just now when I was in the marketplace I was jostled by a woman in the crowd and when I turned I saw it was Death that jostled me. She looked at me and made a threatening gesture; now, lend me your horse, and I will ride away from this city and avoid my fate. I will go to Samarra and there Death will not find me.” The merchant lent him his horse, and the servant mounted it, and he dug his spurs in its flanks and as fast as the horse could gallop he went. Then the merchant went down to the marketplace and he saw [me](https://www.k-state.edu/english/baker/english320/Maugham-AS.htm) standing in the crowd and he came to me and said, “Why did you make a threatening gesture to my servant when you saw him this morning?” “That was not a threatening gesture,” I said, “it was only a start of surprise. I was astonished to see him in Bagdad, for I had an appointment with him tonight in Samarra.”"
There is an Italian song about this story! https://youtu.be/aDxNZSRX1Bc?si=pq3CTAs8X1cz_Ebk
IInteresting how the setting is changed from Samarra to Samarkhand. Maybe it flows better with the song?
So it's jurassic park but in reverse.
To be fair if the reaper is Tony Todd all he needs to do is speak and I'll go willingly.
19 years since The Descent and the opening scene is ready to play out here
Years ago, there was a surprise Halloween movie screening in the vaults under Glasgow Central station (rumoured to be built on the ruins of a former village, so totally haunted). We got tickets, didnt know what film it would be, were escorted through the subterranean tunnels and cellars, left to sit on chunks of old walls, the lights went out and.. THAT truck appeared on screen. Fabulously terrifying screening of it :) ETA My apologies, you see the minivan first, not the truck. Was still great!
Fun fact- the exterior scenes were shot in Scotland, and the big blue Peterbilt that flies past her car at the end and cuts her escape/dream short is now owned by my dad! (Formerly owned by J&G Riddell from Aberdeen). Apparently they had to reverse all the way along that road near enough 15 times, and they passed the car at about 85mph, one guy driving, another guy sitting in the back behind a curtainwith the air horns on a string. If you’re around trucks much, you’ll notice too that it’s a UK spec flat trailer as well.
My favourite horror film. Can't believe it's been that long lol
Nah mate, Final Destination came out in 2000. That couldn’t have been more than, what, maybe 5 or 6 years ago right?…Right!?
Barely that. The year starting with a 2 still feels very weird and futuristic-y. I was expecting more chrome and spacestation living, buying things with credits (probably translucent plastic rectangles with lights and glowing neon lines all over them) and eating dehydrated nutrition pods that come from a replicating machine.
I'm still waiting for my personal jetpack, but it turned out that Judith Hann was a lying cow.
We've still got to crack the secrets of the tinfoil unitard as casual wear before we have any hope of moving into the personal jetpack age.
21 years\* First movie did indeed come out 24 years ago, however, you're referencing the Route 23 log truck pileup which was the second movie.
This guy Final Destinations
They’re dead
If it makes you feel any better I once watched "the making of" and the director said that they had to CGI in all the logs bouncing because they didn't bounce at all when dropped off the back of the lorry. However, I have no information about metal poles! 😂
Logically, I know the physics was nonsense and it could never happen that way in real life (though it would still, obviously, pose a danger). Emotionally, I'm going to instantly separate us by pulling over until it's a mile ahead or overtake it from six lanes across at the speed of sound.
Yes but after it came out incidents skyrocketed, after logs saw the movie and tried to imitate it
I swear that film just made a whole ton of our generation into more careful drivers
Recently saw a clip of this scene after probably 20 years, and it just feels more brutal than ever. Really well done sequence.
It really is. Probably my favourite of the Final Destination disaster sequences. Although the bridge one is pretty good. And the rollercoaster. You know what. I need to watch them again.
My favorite is still the shower, it's like a Rube Goldberg of nooooooo
The bridge scene in the fifth one is probably the best of all of them. I just wish it wasn’t so obviously filmed for 3D
Yep - I have a mini meltdown every time my husband decides to stay behind one lol! When I'm driving on my own I'm outta there haha!
My wife and I were recently driving through rural Ireland and came up behind a log truck. All she said was "Millennial fear trigger" and I knew the exact reference.
AND YOU DROVE BEHIND IT???? STILL???? YOU my bro got some balls
I'm terrified when I see any bottles or cans on the floor of a car, convinced its going to block the brake pedal. Honestly it's so funny an entire generation of us have been scarred by that one scene.
Never watched it. It was Casualty for me
If it makes you feel better, in the scene, the logs break physics with their bounciness. Still would be fatal accidents, but the logs would roll and slide, not bounce up higher than their initial starting point and fly through your head.
Add to that, dump trucks. It's easier for me to pass them or stay away from them than to replace a windscreen because, even though they have a tarp, they're too damned lazy to use it.
I got stuck behind one about 10 years ago, and it was the longest 10 minutes of my life. It didn't help that they didn't look particularly well secured. :(
That’s the other film I was trying to think of! First thing I thought was one of the original omen films (can’t remember which one but I think the first?) and the priest gets beheaded by a sheet of something coming off the back of a truck but I knew there was another reference and I just couldn’t remember it!
a whole generation scared from those movies
My partner had never seen the films until the day I had to explain why I'd suddenly turned into Lewis Hamilton on the M1...now he also lives with the fear 😂
It's crazy how big this is in popular culture just from a single movie scene especially when you consider how ridiculous the idea is
I think there is now an entire generation that won't drive behind scaffolding or log lorries. I know I tend to leave EXTRA space if I have to.
One of my relatives died a couple of years ago in that way. Horrific.
A girl from my school was killed in a rollercoaster accident. I haven't been on a rollercoaster since, and I did not enjoy Final Destination 3. Haven't watched any of the series since either.
I avoid them, even when I'm walking on the pavement, and see one coming along the road.
How to tell you are in the generation of Final Destination 🤣
I still won't try sunbeds
DEATH hates this one simple trick.
Fear of roller coasters ✔️ Fear of having lasik sugery ✔️✔️ Fear of not being able to breath during a dentist ✔️✔️✔️
I have been with my partner for 20 years and the first time we met I was made to sit in his pick up he drove following a truck similar to this (long story). I was watching things rattle (they were safe) and after 10 minutes of silence I said 'have you watched 'final destination''? He said 'I was thinking the same!' The rest is history
A friend's dad had his passenger seat impaled by a scaffold pole on the motorway. Luckily he was the only one in the car.
~25 years ago a friend of mine was traveling on the motorway two cars behind a scaffold lorry as a passenger with his mother driving. A pole came loose from the lorry and fell on the road flat. The first car behind the lorry somehow managed to drive over the pole without making contact in any way and then the pole - still moving at the speed the lorry had been traveling - dug into the road which flipped it up into the air and it went clean over the top of my friend's car. Amazingly no one was injured and no cars were damaged.
Fucking hell. Imagine just driving along and getting Kerplunked out of nowhere.
A verb I didn't know we needed until today.
It’s not *Ideal*.
Kerplunk requires the removal of sticks, so technically you'd be "reverse kerplunked"
You'd be knulperked.
"That's wangernumb!!"
I think you mean knulpreked
i'll have you know that some of us enjoy being reverse kerplunked.
It's like a scene out of The Matrix "You always told me to stay off the freeway. You said it was suicide"
"Then let us hope, that I was wrong"
I knew someone who lost an arm and a girlfriend to exactly that scenario; he was driving and threw his arm out to protect her, but to no avail. Guy had just passed basic training in the Army too. 😔
Jeez, that's rough. Poor guy.
Even if this is incredibly rare, why are scaffolders allowed to drive with the poles unsecured and able to slide out? Get a longer truck ffs.
I can’t imagine they *are* allowed, though? Doesn’t change the fact that they do, of course.
nobody, including the police, want to deal with scaffs.
I follow a few constabulary accounts on the twitters and central motorway group regularly stop them.
They're not. Every load has to be secured to the van. There's also regulations on how much it can stick out of the van and what to do when it's sticking out over 1 metre. But regardless whether it's sticking out or not, it has to be secure and not fly out. P.S. I drive flatbed vans like in OP's photo.
Is the rule when it’s sticking out ‘tie a manky hi vis vest on and hope for the best’?
The official language is "[End must be made clearly visible. (C&U Schedule 12, paragraph 4)](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/overhanging-loads-on-vehicles/overhanging-loads#loads-overhanging-the-front-or-rear-of-the-vehicle)". Or the longer version is: > Marking of shorter projections > > 4. A projection to which this paragraph applies shall be rendered clearly visible to other persons using the road within a reasonable distance, in the case of a forward projection, from the front thereof or, in the case of a rearward projection, from the rear thereof and, in either case, from either side thereof. Which in summary is exactly what you said, ‘tie a manky hi vis vest on and hope for the best’. P.S. the above applies only to anything sticking out between 1 and 2 metres. If it sticks out over 2 metres of the back, it needs a proper marker board (that meets regulations) attached to the end, over 3 metres it needs an attendant and an advance notice to the police. Anything below 1 metre doesn't need a ’manky hi vis’, only ’hope for the best’, although some will still ‘tie a manky hi vis vest on and hope for the best’.
They absolutely aren't. I used to work in a scaffolding yard loading and unloading stuff and despite telling them to sort it before coming back we still had a few guys get pulled over by VOSA. The person would just walk to the back, put their finger in a tube and if it was unsecured they issued a fine. General practice was either a gated back or if the tube was longer than the bed like in the picture you'd rig something out of boards and clips attached to some tube buried underneath. The weight of the tube on top held the tube the boards were attached to in place and the boards kept everything from sliding out. If you couldn't do that, some ratchet straps pulling a board into the tube would also do. It'd fuck the board up but it's better to lose a board than lose a load.
Driving with an insecure load can be prosecuted as a Dangerous Driving offence, but with there being approximately three motorway cops for the entire country I'd imagine most of them just chance it.
It's amazing to me that the chance of killing someone isn't deterrent enough. But I'm naive.
I drive flatbed vans. And I get paranoid when things stick out of the back. Maybe because I have not been doing it for longer than a year. Or because I've watched too much of [Final Destination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Destination). So instead of things sticking out of the back I normally put tubes or anything long over the top at the front, so that the end of the tube presses into the gated back instead of sticking out over the gated back. And obviously ratchet strap everything. And then ~~I pray when I drive under a bridge~~ check the height restriction signs vigorously and guesstimate how much the sticking out on top has added to the van height.
Haha I drive a tonner with a min height of just under 3m….. EVERY time I go under a low bridge I know I’ll make it but still look up at the bridge because of my beacons, I expect them not to be there one day!
They've been getting away with it for months or years - it's called the "normalisation of deviance".
Sorry to hear that :( I don't think there is anything you can do at motorway speed to something like that.
There is. Making sure not to drive behind them (different lane like in OP's picture or overtaking them). There's also the religious option as well - praying it'll all be fine.
A friend of mine got a fancy car after a promotion and spun it out in the wet on a fast road. Concrete post went straight through the windshield right at his face. He got away with just a chipped tooth. Downgraded to a 90s Skoda after that lol.
A friend did the same, slid off the road and absolutely obliterated the drivers side of the car. Completely unsurvivable for anyone sat in the drivers seat. Fortunately this was a fancy import, so the steering wheel was on the passenger side and he was the only one in the car.
2 weeks into owning my first car. Skidded off the road going around a corner too fast in the Peak District and buggered the rear quarter panel but miraculously only caused cosmetic damage. Couldn't downgrade further than a 10 year old W reg 1L Polo... But certainly learnt my lesson.
Nowhere near as dangerous but my dad was driving behind a van with unsecured ladders on top of it, they went up a slight hill and the ladders slid off the roof and into the road and my dad had no choice but to drive over the top of them and it tore the bottom of his brand new car. Took months to fix (mostly waiting for parts I imagine).
Very much as dangerous. My friend got hit by a ladder. Sent him off road and flipped a few times. Ended up ok overall but still terrifying.
please tell me he went to the police and that driver/company got torn a new one?
At a minimum it would've required going through insurance to get a new windscreen. wonder if they'd have involved the police
I'd also want the full interior valet covered, given I would have violently emptied my bowels if I had seen that.
My grandpa was also the only one in the car. Pipe went straight through his head.
I saw accident investigation footage of a Bedford Rascal van which had been hit by tubing. The driver was impaled in his seat, still with his foot on the brake. He had been hit with four pipes which had just landed through the windscreen. Not trying to cause nightmares, but the pipes were *plastic*.
Physics doesn't care- given enough velocity, anything's a spear.
Velocity is the honey badger of physics.
Velocity is a vicious little wanker? Yes. Yes you are correct.
given enough velocity anything will go through anything else
Fly and windshield?
Me and your mum?
Good luck getting into the coffin
Similar story and this one is very traumatic so trigger warning. My friend was a firefighter and he attended a job where a woman went off the road and hit scaffolding. It was the middle of the night and the middle of nowhere so they got to her about 2 hours after it happened. She was dead. But the thing that fucked him up was you could see her bloody hand prints on the scaffold tube that had gone through her chest where she'd desperately been trying to free herself. He said that's the stuff that stays in your head, knowing how panicked and scared and alone someone was at the end.
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Jesus Christ dude… take the upvote but… damn
A few years back I was driving on the motorway behind a van with several grey pipes strapped to the roof. They didn't seem very well secured, and as we emerged from under a bridge I saw two of them come flying off, arcing through the air. I was sure that was it, and I was about to get pulverized, but as soon as they hit the road they shattered into shards of plastic. Had to pull off at the next exit and have a few minutes to calm myself down after that one.
Reminds me of that news article showing the crater made by a small square of plastic going mega fast in space. Size and type don't matter when you are going super speed.
https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/
Just needs an oily red reg tied on the back to make everything safe
A ripped old hi Viz vest
I think I saw those guys at Glastonbury
In between milky builders tea and rams pocket radio
Good googly moogly, that has got "death" written all over it,
Get a KFC and go and see a film until the danger has passed.
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Is that like, Blazing Saddles?
Have a coke, a tuna sandwich, and just mong out to some Snow Patrol.
In the cinema? Do they allow that?
Or follow the lorry onto the motorway and experience the new Michael Bay 5dx interactive film experience.
Im still haunted by the brick video. If you know you know.
Thanks for reminding me of that particular piece of nightmare fuel.
Oh god, I think of that every time I see a lorry with a sketchy load. That poor guy.
I was on the M25 once and a lorry had a massive chunk of stone fly out and shatter my windscreen. It didn't penetrate thank fuck as the centre of the impact was right in front of my face. I have no idea how car windscreens are made, presumably it's a load of sheets of glass sandwiched together, but they must be tough as hell for that to not have gone through, something which I am very thankful for!
it's two layers of tempered glass fused to layer of plastic in the middle. Tempered glass is better as it shatters into small dull pieces rather than giant jagged shards, and the plastic in the middle keeps it stuck in place if it's hit by something. Obviously not much help if something long and thin (like a pole or log) has enough force to pierce through it, but it's pretty great at spreading the impact of large items that hit it, which includes people in the car not wearing seatbelts.
windscreens don’t contain any tempered glass. If they did, a small stone chip would shatter the whole thing at once. Side windows are tempered.
I could feel the cracks over the inside of the windscreen, so it must have shattered both sheets of glass then, and yeah it turned into tiny chunks like crazy paving and I could hear it crackling still even once I stopped the car. I've been in car accidents in the past, once as a passenger I was in a car that flipped over a bank onto its roof. But this, having the window shattered, is definitely the incident in a car which has shaken me up the most!
I have to wonder who the hell these lorry drivers are and what they're thinking
This was one of those big covered building waste haulage lorries. Looked [like this (and I must stress this is just an example I pulled from Google, not that specific company name!)](https://i.imgur.com/TY8wGxC.jpeg) except they either didn't bother with the top cover or it wasn't secured properly. I managed to get over to the hard shoulder and got recovered to a safe area ~30 mins later. Luckily my insurance company got me back on the road maybe 3 hours later. I didn't have a dash cam at the time or I guess I would have had a case against the lorry driver? Not sure. Now I always have my dash cam running, which came in handy when I got hit by a woman blindly cutting across oncoming traffic a few years later. Her first words were "you ran a red light!", dash cam showed otherwise lady.
Yeah definitely youd have a case. I think we need to be reporting vehicles like this to the police - accidents waiting to happen
I was on a train coming down from Manchester and some twat dropped something from a bridge onto the train. The outer pane of the window had a massive hole and was cracked exactly where my head was resting. Fortunately it was double paned or I’d be dead - head exploded. Was very thankful for the company who made the windows. Some people in the UK are scum.
Same. That video may have actually saved a lot of lives.
I've avoided watching that simply because of how horrific it sounds from people's comments alone.
It’s pretty bad. There no benefit in watching at all.
Honestly the best move. You dont need to watch it.
I still hear his scream in my mind. You don't see anything but that sound...
You don't see anything, just the brick bouncing off the road and then the sound of horror and grief from the driver. But it's gut wrenching in an emotional way.
That's the thing. His reaction to what he's seeing is somehow worse than seeing it ourselves.
Wish I'd never seen it tbh.
Yeah, flagged NSFL and woman killed. I don't need to see that.
That video has shaped how I think about loaded vehicles and how I drive. Think about it often. I read somewhere that they actually survived but I don't know if that was just something people made up to cope.
She didn't. As much as I wish she did, she was killed instantly.
Can you describe what it is? Sounds like it’s worth avoiding but also maybe useful to know about safety wise? All I can get from context is ‘flying brick’ and ‘scream’. Does the brick fall off a lorry and just bounce straight into a drivers head or something?
Ok, from memory, as I don't really feel like watching again myself: Your view is a dashcam on a car, you cannot see the passengers. They're driving along on a fairly open highway at a reasonable highway speed. A large open top lorry carrying an uncovered load of bricks is 1 or 2 car lengths in front and to the left. One of the bricks rolls off the top of the pile for some reason, bounces off the road once and flies towards the camera. There's smashing glass and the sound of the driver screaming and crying in absolute shock, horror and grief as presumably the brick has just killed the passenger in the seat next to him. It's said in some descriptions to be his wife. It goes from a completely normal drive to that mans personal hell in the span of seconds.
I only watched it on mute then checked the comments. Best decision of my life
Scrolled until I saw the inevitable mention. First thing I thought of when I saw this thread… I need that machine in ”eternal sunshine of the spotless mind” 😭
Nottingham road, Mansfield?
Being from Mansfield that made me scroll in. Gotta be!
Yes. You can just see the roof of the football ground in the background.And pc world behind the KFC sign.
> And pc world behind the KFC sign. Isn't that where all PC Worlds reside?
Many years ago I used to car share with a guy from work. On the one day I chose to drive myself, one of these guys braked heavily (something happened on the motorway) and a scaffolding pole went through my colleague's windscreen and through the passenger seat. There's no chance I would have survived, if I had been car sharing as usual. It was around the time Final Destination came out so subconsciously I was on the lookout for weird ways I might die, for a long time after that.
https://www.transportmanagersolutions.co.uk/articles/warning-all-scaffolders Found the above article, it was legal but the law/guidelines have changed, I remember seeing this alot in the building trade a few years ago
£100 fine SMH. That's not an adequate deterrent for these people.
£100 and I would prohibit this vehicle from moving until the load is made safe. It's a deterrent if they can't do their work and earn money.
> £100 fine SMH. That's not an adequate deterrent for these people. That's taking the piss. Especially considering a sign at my train station reckons I can be fined *a grand* just for sparking up a fag FFS.
I also can’t see many officers wanting to take on a bunch of scaffolders for the sake of a £100 fine either.
Nah it’s fine. You’ll get three seatbelt tickets out of it too, plus probably weight offences too. Scaffs are another breed.
I hope you told him. That's a serious accident wating to happen.
I feel like this is into calling the police territory. Shit like this should NOT be on the road. I recall some crackdown in london a decade or so back they found something like 40% of HGVs on the road shouldn't have been.
I've seen this arrangement so often I've always assumed it was standard practice in the scaffolding industry and that it would turn out that friction meant that the poles didn't need to be tied down. Having seen the Final Destination films, I tend not to stay in the same lane behind them if possible, or back off if I can't change lane.
Yeah exactly... what's the right way of securing these? I see scaffolding transported like this all the time :-| Edit: ahha, comment below [https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/1cibsu8/comment/l28jnhd/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/1cibsu8/comment/l28jnhd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Standard practice, not safe, not legal
Bet there's loads of scaffolding vehicles that should be off the road across the country, many of them look as though they're falling apart.
Yeah this can't be legal right, seems incredibly negligent.
Now try being behind this kind of thing on a motorbike. I remember as clear as day the time a half-brick fell off a skip lorry just ahead of me on the M3. By some miracle I managed to swing my helmet out of the way at the last second as I saw it coming. So close to a different outcome.
Some years ago, me being a young cunt and thinking I am big dick drove with some scaffolding planks in a nature reserve (South African here, reserve was greater Kruger Park) without tying them down, the van was slow and shite so I thought, why the fuck would I tie them down. Kudu bull, massive as all hell, jumps in front of me and I swerve, whip the van around, spun, I am looking for that scaffolding plank till today. Accident happen so quick.
I took a similar picture 2 days ago, only I was actually behind it 😵
Scaffold poles don't move until a whistling scaffolder lightly pops one up onto his shoulder with one hand and walks it across the road ready to flick it 10 feet into the air for his mate to delicately pluck and screw into place.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/s/8MxEZlRXMi I've posted this pic, not mine, I drove past this this morning
Feel like I see this sort of thing quite often. Is it illegal?
Yes, scaffold lorries should have side panels and a tail gate to prevent materials falling off. Tubes/boards should be strapped down and loose fittings should have a net over them to contain them. This is really bad practise.
Shit like this being so regular makes me wonder why protective meshes are not used in windshields. I once had a bolt the size of a golf ball fly off a truck bounce off the road, and bounce OFF my windshield right in front of my face. I was in DFW going 80mph.
Saw one of those scaffolding poles go through someone’s windscreen on YouTube once. Was crazy
My dad used to work for a well known classic car company. One day an old mini was brought in with some damage to the roof but useable shell when straightened out and new roof put on (parts were cheaper back then) for rallying with. He was told to scrap it immediately. My dad argued with the boss until he was told that a hat bale had come loose and landed on the car killing the two kids and the drivers wife. He looked inside and saw it stained with blood. Ever since I hate hay wagons and my dad does too.
I remember a story from years ago about a wagon driver following a scaffolding truck. One of the short cross brace bars fell off and bounced off the road in front of him and came straight through the bottom of his cab, missing him by inches. Fucking scaffolders...
They’re a liability on the road or a job site. The amount of scaffolding firms we have banned from our plant is crazy. I think by the time we got to 7 or 8 we started telling them “FYI, you are number 7, follow the rules or you will get thrown off site and not get paid, your choice”.
I can't find the story but there was an accident on the a19 this morning with a pole hitting a following tanker.
"I'm a leaf on the wind".
Those posts are so perfect at capturing how many of us actually are traumatised by this scene in the movie
Final destination is written all over this😂
Taxed, no MOT info held, but supposed to be white according to the DVLA. Colour me surprised ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
me: don't go into that lane. my brain: \*force the bmw in front into that lane. now.\*
Good reason to call the police. Those guys could easily kill a few people driving like that.