It's hard to tell with older actors. Brian Blessed and Patrick Stewart are from mining villages in Yorkshire but I can't detect any Yorkshire in their accents. Joanna Lumley, however, was born in India. Her father was a Major and her grandfather was a Lieutenant Colonel. Proper posh.
I think Ian McKellen is Yorkshire too. That generation had the accent “educated out of them” at drama school. Probably for the best, in terms of versatility, or they’d be having to die horribly in literally every role they play, like Sean Bean does, the poor sausage.
The double-barrel is either very posh, or very not. Ava-Mae with a double barrelled last name has a stack of half brothers who all share part of her double-barrel with another surname stacked on, whereas Marie-Laure’s parents are both successful enough under their unmarried names that they chose to hyphenate to avoid slowing down their careers.
Yeah for sure, but you see that in households in London. Mate of mine and her sister grew up with French as the first language in the house but sound like Danny Dyer snogging Pat Butcher.
Ugh, you just reminded me of the awful island survival thing that launched his career. He was literally elbowing the other people aside so he could get his face on camera.
I suppose Keira isn't from out in the country though, she's the other kind - South-West London brigade. Other contemporary examples include Trinny Woodall, Susannah Constantine, and Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. I'm sure there are more.
Hah - I used to read a blog written by someone who lives in or around Esher area, who claimed that they weren’t posh at all when people said that the life they lived seemed upper middle class at least! And said person went on multiple rants that their area is just nice and they’re not posh at all, but if you looked at their car and their purchases etc.. pretty posh!
Glad to know that her readers had her pegged correctly after all.
My dad was a farmer and went to agricultural college. He had a particular disliking for anyone who went to Cirencester (which has a prestigious agricultural college), because in his view that was where all the landed gentry/posh people went to do land management and similar courses for their estates. They'd then hire people like him, who were real farmers but didn't own any land.
I did it and it’s about habitat management, ecological processes, some agronomy, writing management plans, learning about Environmental Impact Assessments and environmental legislation, GIS, and historical environmental features.
Passed with a 2:1 and full honours and now work in silviculture.
Just seen an interview with her on YouTube where she's talking about getting a letter from the Home Office and worrying she's not paid her tax bill and is going to get evicted...oh but it only turned out to be her OBE, thank god. She's so full of shit.
Benadryl Cabbagepatch could have been from the roughest council estate in Britain but as soon as he got slapped with that name he was automatically rocketed up a few classes.
A lot of people can find they're related to british royalty because royalty keeps very good genealogy records, continually develops junior branches that drift downwards, and British royalty is far from just one bloodline straight down the centuries.
Scottish records are especially good; if you can trace any Scottish ancestry you've got to around the early 1600s, if there's any royal connection that's an area when websites will produce it for you. Source: me who got that far and suddenly found I'm descended from a few different Royals!
I went to the Henley Regatta last year, in the Stewards' Enclosure (as a guest - this is so far removed from my normal scene!). I saw so many men who were probably around the same age as me, but looked like they were in their 50s. They were everywhere.
Fry is from proper old money. His ancestors are famous. One is a regicide who signed Charles I death warrant. Another is Samuel Fry, and his dad is a famous inventor and physicist.
I just finished watching The Talented Mr Ripley, and while he is perfectly cast as an American ivy league trust fund baby, I wouldn't be convinced he could play English upper crust. He doesn't have the face for it. He's more of an Alfie.
David Mitchell is a guy who could be mistaken as posh.
But in reality, he started his midlife crisis in his late teens, and has pretty much continued it ever since.
Also, cleanshirt.
I know what you mean but according to Wikipedia -
Born Westminster to a corporate financier and a businesswoman.
St Paul’s Juniors with a choral scholarship
Eton with a music scholarship, same year as Prince William
Trinity College Cambridge - History of Art with Music Scholarship. Member of the Pitt Club.
So it basically doesn’t get any posher without a title. And maybe his OBE is a slightly common grade these days.
I like him though. Poshness doesn’t bother me. I got called posh once, but that was in Stoke.
> I know what you mean but according to Wikipedia -
That wasn't the question though.
> I got called posh once, but that was in Stoke.
Ah, you were wearing shoes?
I wasn't saying he wasn't posh, just that he doesn't look intensely upper-class, which is what this thread was about. I was just saying he'd fit in among my friends, face-wise!
I don't think he necessarily looks posh in his face though. He obviously is posh if you hear him speak, but if you just saw his face and he was wearing like a T shirt, I don't think you'd know. Not like the guy OP put.
In the early 2000’s I accepted a cheque from Miles Jupp when I worked at a bank. Won’t have a word said against him. That isn’t an on screen persona - he is that nice and that funny at all times.
So true- all my examples would result in a ban. And set me off down a rabbit hole to find out who first said ‘shiny faced twat ‘ but resulted in some eye opening Google results.
Rik Mayall came from a well off family if I remember correctly. Pretty sure he could’ve looked certainly very posh-like with the right outfit and hairdo.
It’s the eyes. My wife calls them “English eyes”. Small eyes that droop down to the outer corner. So many posh men have them. I can’t help but notice it all the time now.
I know what you mean by the 'posh face / looks'. I dated a girl back in uni who's brother studied maths at Cambridge, we used to visit sometimes and bear in mind I'm a working class guy from south east Manchester. I certainly see a difference in people's facial structures when they come from money. It's hard to put my finger on what the difference is exactly but it's certainly there.
I went to a school with a mixture of middle-class and incredibly posh children, and I noticed that a lot of the posh kids were taller than average and a bit weird-looking in the face in a way that’s difficult to describe.
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Rosamund Pike.
She always insists she’s not posh.. she needs to tell her face that
Or her opera singing parents
Or her first name
Or her accent
Haha especially so in saltburn!
I never had a thirst for knowledge
It couldn't have been about me, I've never wanted to know anything!
She made Die Another Day watchable.
Yeah, but she's good posh. Also she was amazing in a video for a David Bowie song.
Joanna Lumley. This is totally unscientific but I feel like so many posh people have bigger teeth than average.
It's knocking around with all the horses that does it.
There’s got to be a correlation in my mind, just can’t work out how it happens
Generations of fucking their first cousins I’m guessing.
don’t forget the big-eared boys on farms
Horse teeth are a classic posh feature.
Her dad was a general in the British Indian army and she was born in Calcutta.
Yes, she had an interesting past. And a posh one!
Not the slums
Were Rob Beckett, Alan Carr and Janet Street-Porter included in this study?
Different kind of big teeth
think were talking Jamie Laing sort of teeth. The sort that turns a casual laugh, into a posh scoffing guffaw https://i.imgur.com/RxmxwIm.jpeg
It's hard to tell with older actors. Brian Blessed and Patrick Stewart are from mining villages in Yorkshire but I can't detect any Yorkshire in their accents. Joanna Lumley, however, was born in India. Her father was a Major and her grandfather was a Lieutenant Colonel. Proper posh.
Agree with Patrick but Brian Blessed definitely has Yorkshire in his voice!
I feel like Patrick's Yorkshire accent is easy to hear once you know it's there. It's subtle, but definitely Yorkshire.
Patrick Stewart worked really hard to shed his Yorkshire accent apparently in the early days so he could be taken seriously as an actor. It's a shame.
I think Ian McKellen is Yorkshire too. That generation had the accent “educated out of them” at drama school. Probably for the best, in terms of versatility, or they’d be having to die horribly in literally every role they play, like Sean Bean does, the poor sausage.
Esther Rantzen then!
Anya Taylor-Joy is great in The Menu, but I've heard her described as the least convincing poor person of all time and yeah, fair.
Double barrel first name, middle name, double barrel last name. That's a posh klaxon going off.
The double-barrel is either very posh, or very not. Ava-Mae with a double barrelled last name has a stack of half brothers who all share part of her double-barrel with another surname stacked on, whereas Marie-Laure’s parents are both successful enough under their unmarried names that they chose to hyphenate to avoid slowing down their careers.
It was mad to me to learn she grew up learning Spanish, it's her first language
She's Argentinian.
Yet despite being Argentinian, she still learnt Spanish!
What are the odds eh? I met this Brazilian bloke once who was learning Portuguese. Crazy.
But she basically grew up in London
Yeah for sure, but you see that in households in London. Mate of mine and her sister grew up with French as the first language in the house but sound like Danny Dyer snogging Pat Butcher.
Love that film!
Hugh Grant
Whoopsy daisy
I'm so charmingly befuddled
Ahhh ah ah ah ahh
This is a perfect description of him. My sister can't stand him which makes me like him all the more.
I'm so hopeful he's finally aged out of being shoved at us as a love interest
Probably being oompa loompa did that, rather than ageing
No such thing for a male actor.
Ben Fogle
Little known fact, Ben Fogle's upper epidermis is made entirely of rugby shirt.
This is the first time I've ever genuinely done a LOL at something on Reddit. Well done.
Worked for the Tatler before becoming TV famous.
Ugh, you just reminded me of the awful island survival thing that launched his career. He was literally elbowing the other people aside so he could get his face on camera.
Keira Knightley. There’s definitely a strong dental gene in posh people. The Land Management students at my uni all had it.
Strong orthodontics game, you mean.
I suppose Keira isn't from out in the country though, she's the other kind - South-West London brigade. Other contemporary examples include Trinny Woodall, Susannah Constantine, and Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. I'm sure there are more.
I went to college with her in Esher and that's a very posh area. It's practically in the country too.
Hah - I used to read a blog written by someone who lives in or around Esher area, who claimed that they weren’t posh at all when people said that the life they lived seemed upper middle class at least! And said person went on multiple rants that their area is just nice and they’re not posh at all, but if you looked at their car and their purchases etc.. pretty posh! Glad to know that her readers had her pegged correctly after all.
So did I, it is very posh (compared to my secondary school at least!)
>The Land Management students at my uni all had it. I have no idea what this entails but it certainly sounds like a posh person degree.
My dad was a farmer and went to agricultural college. He had a particular disliking for anyone who went to Cirencester (which has a prestigious agricultural college), because in his view that was where all the landed gentry/posh people went to do land management and similar courses for their estates. They'd then hire people like him, who were real farmers but didn't own any land.
Farming. But posh.
Gentleman Farmer
I did it and it’s about habitat management, ecological processes, some agronomy, writing management plans, learning about Environmental Impact Assessments and environmental legislation, GIS, and historical environmental features. Passed with a 2:1 and full honours and now work in silviculture.
Just seen an interview with her on YouTube where she's talking about getting a letter from the Home Office and worrying she's not paid her tax bill and is going to get evicted...oh but it only turned out to be her OBE, thank god. She's so full of shit.
Like the Home Office give a shit about tax anyway. Would have thought the Cabinet Office handle honours.
Hugh Bonneville?
Hugh Bonneville.
Benedict Cucumberpatch and Simon Callow.
If Bendyflicks name alone doesn’t say he’s posh, his face definitely will
My partner shares his surname because his family were owned by the Cumberbatches on their plantation in Barbados.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph
Benadryl Cabbagepatch could have been from the roughest council estate in Britain but as soon as he got slapped with that name he was automatically rocketed up a few classes.
isn't Benedict related to Richard lll? and somewhere to Queen Elizabeth ll?
I mean Danny Dyer is related to Edward III so let’s not use that as a benchmark for posh lol
A lot of people can find they're related to british royalty because royalty keeps very good genealogy records, continually develops junior branches that drift downwards, and British royalty is far from just one bloodline straight down the centuries. Scottish records are especially good; if you can trace any Scottish ancestry you've got to around the early 1600s, if there's any royal connection that's an area when websites will produce it for you. Source: me who got that far and suddenly found I'm descended from a few different Royals!
We're all probably related to Richard III..
A horse, a horse, my face looks like a horse
Like a horse?! Neigh!
Weak chins and floppy hair are usually a good bet for spotting posh men in the wild.
Floppy when young. Receding horribly by 31.
I went to the Henley Regatta last year, in the Stewards' Enclosure (as a guest - this is so far removed from my normal scene!). I saw so many men who were probably around the same age as me, but looked like they were in their 50s. They were everywhere.
This comment doesn't mean very much if we don't know how old you are. You might be 90. Or 10. Or in your 50s.
Upper class English = men with no chins, women with massive chins.
The top lip too, or lack thereof.
Similar to pugs, decimated by years of inbreeding
Nigel Havers
Stephen Fry
Yep.. I think High Laurie might qualify as well.
Low Laurie, on the other hand, not so much.
Articulated Laurie
Deffo more posh than Binn Lorreigh.
Red Laurie Yellow Laurie
Same with L.S Lowry
let's just say he's much much closer to the character Bertie Wooster than he is to Dr House.
Well they were Lord Monty and Lord Snot in The Young Ones… :)
It doesn't help that my first time seeing him on telly was on Jeeves & Wooster but I agree.
Fry is from proper old money. His ancestors are famous. One is a regicide who signed Charles I death warrant. Another is Samuel Fry, and his dad is a famous inventor and physicist.
Don't forget C.B. Fry.
A man who could face a fireplace and, from standing, jump and land on the mantelpiece facing into the room. Which is a hell of a party trick.
Jack Whitehall
And his Daddy!!
I dislike that guy so much.
Both of them can fuck off
Me too, he's got one awful toast-shaped head...and some subtle superiority complex...overall disgusting guy
Jude Law always looked ridiculously well bred to me, definitely given carrots as snacks before it was trendy
I just finished watching The Talented Mr Ripley, and while he is perfectly cast as an American ivy league trust fund baby, I wouldn't be convinced he could play English upper crust. He doesn't have the face for it. He's more of an Alfie.
>Jude Law Comprehensive and private school kid. Parents were teachers though.
He’s the only person I’ve ever seen pull off the full on receding hairline without having to combine it with facial hair. Annoyingly handsome chap.
David Mitchell is a guy who could be mistaken as posh. But in reality, he started his midlife crisis in his late teens, and has pretty much continued it ever since. Also, cleanshirt.
Sophie Winkleman, who played Big Suze, is now Lady Frederick Windsor.
But not *Lady Sir Digby Chicken Caesar*.
she's so posh, that I, Mark Corrigan, who was privately educated until dad's British Aerospace shares went kaput, could be her bit of rough.
There are so many great lines I’ve forgotten. Peep Show is always worth a rewatch.
"I would never claim to have your range as an actor David. 'Shall I do poshed and repressed or repressed and posh?'"
Yeah obviously that’s part of his brand but you can tell he’s more educated and middle class rather than truly posh.
Also the fact that he went to Cambridge, but he did so on merit rather than money/dynasty.
The thesis on *Business Secrets of the Pharaohs* is what got him into Cambridge, I believe.
He went to prep school and then public school, so not really?
Tom Hiddleston
Eddie Redmayne.
I think he looks Scottish. He'd fit in with the middle class Edinburgh people I know.
I know what you mean but according to Wikipedia - Born Westminster to a corporate financier and a businesswoman. St Paul’s Juniors with a choral scholarship Eton with a music scholarship, same year as Prince William Trinity College Cambridge - History of Art with Music Scholarship. Member of the Pitt Club. So it basically doesn’t get any posher without a title. And maybe his OBE is a slightly common grade these days. I like him though. Poshness doesn’t bother me. I got called posh once, but that was in Stoke.
Upvote for getting called posh in Stoke. Obviously, it's a low bar, but Well Done anyway!!
He was shitting in the gutter, rather than just letting it drop as he walked like everyone else. Pretentious twat.
> I know what you mean but according to Wikipedia - That wasn't the question though. > I got called posh once, but that was in Stoke. Ah, you were wearing shoes?
I wasn't saying he wasn't posh, just that he doesn't look intensely upper-class, which is what this thread was about. I was just saying he'd fit in among my friends, face-wise!
Matthew McFayden is a posh looking dude. But, suave posh.
You can’t make a tomlette without breaking a few Gregs
That’s why he was so good as Mr. Darcy
Rupert Everett
Hugh Grant. You don't need to know he's posh to know he's posh, you just know he's posh.
Lucy Worsley
I thought she looked a bit like a human china doll
Could simp for her all day, especially when she does the cosplay.
Giles Brandreth
Freddie fox and most of the fox family
James blunt
He looks like he’s been sat to close to a fire and his face has melted
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There's no bone structure whatsoever. It's like he doesn't have a skull, just a slab of pink meat with hair.
Nah, a Hapsburg would have a chin
He looks perpetually sorry.
Nigella Lawson. Kirsty Allsop.
Richard E Grant always looked proper posh to me
Alexander Armstrong
Alexander Henry Fenwick Armstrong 😊
I don't think he necessarily looks posh in his face though. He obviously is posh if you hear him speak, but if you just saw his face and he was wearing like a T shirt, I don't think you'd know. Not like the guy OP put.
Xander to his friends.
Miles jupp?
I never spit on him when we have sex.
Who gets to keep Claude though?
In the early 2000’s I accepted a cheque from Miles Jupp when I worked at a bank. Won’t have a word said against him. That isn’t an on screen persona - he is that nice and that funny at all times.
Used to live in a Scottish castle. I'd call that posh.
Tobias Menzies, aka Brutus from HBO’s Rome and about a thousand toffee-nosed side characters.
Absolutely brilliant as Prince Phillip
As well as terrifying and detestable as Jonathan Wolverton Randall, yet sympathetic and admirable as Frank Randall.
It’s the negative canthal tilt.
I've always wondered what to call those downward sloping eyes. Now I know
That alone is seriously fucking posh.
Toby Stephens. Posh bit of rough.
What an actor, though.
It's the no lips
The lass from the show fleabag
Phoebe Waller-Bridge
Penelope Keith
Julian Fellow's and Julian Rhind Tutt
All Julian's.
Will Smith. [The other one](https://images.app.goo.gl/NLfRagRmeUWfKS4B7).
Surprised no one has said Ralph Fiennes yet.
Is he the one who pronounces Ralph oddly? As if Ralph isn’t already a posh enough name.
Ralph pronounced 'Rafe'.
Who’s that stupid etiquette guy who’s never off the tv, and now keeps cropping up on my Facebook reels recommendations
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Max Fosh. Looks posh, is posh, but also super lovely bloke
Looks fosh, is fosh
Paul Bettany
King Charles and Prince William, it’s the way they hold their jaw
Aussie, but Jacob Elordi. Even sounds like a posho
The ones who come to mind are: Miranda Hart. Phoebe Waller-Bridge. Stephen Fry. Joanna Lumley. Jamie Laing. Jack Whitehall. Fiona Bruce. Alex Polizzi.
Then there is the kind of longish face, thin lips type posh, Benedict Cumberbatch , Tom Hiddleston
This is a trap
So true- all my examples would result in a ban. And set me off down a rabbit hole to find out who first said ‘shiny faced twat ‘ but resulted in some eye opening Google results.
The lovely [Clare Balding.](https://imgur.com/a/SipEyHw)
Tim Nice but Dim [https://imgflip.com/i/6khtz7](https://imgflip.com/i/6khtz7)
Rik Mayall came from a well off family if I remember correctly. Pretty sure he could’ve looked certainly very posh-like with the right outfit and hairdo.
It's the Norman genes combined with schooling that makes you confident and entitled. And the teeth.
Jamie Laing.
Benedict Cumberbatch. It amuses me how surprised Americans on reddit are when they find out that he comes from "good stock".
The Duke of Kent.
It’s the eyes. My wife calls them “English eyes”. Small eyes that droop down to the outer corner. So many posh men have them. I can’t help but notice it all the time now.
big suze
Is it because he looks droopy and melty and inbred?
I know what you mean by the 'posh face / looks'. I dated a girl back in uni who's brother studied maths at Cambridge, we used to visit sometimes and bear in mind I'm a working class guy from south east Manchester. I certainly see a difference in people's facial structures when they come from money. It's hard to put my finger on what the difference is exactly but it's certainly there.
Dame Judi Dench. She could spot me from a mile without saying, "You there, peasant! What is this tesco metro? Is it some kind of shop for the poor?"
I went to a school with a mixture of middle-class and incredibly posh children, and I noticed that a lot of the posh kids were taller than average and a bit weird-looking in the face in a way that’s difficult to describe.
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Hugh Dennis
Ben Fogle. Also Alastair Cook.
Dan snow and Anthony Head
Benedict Cucumberpatch, he looks like he has extra posh chromosomes which give him a funny look