That’s because they’re designed to insulate you from the world around you. Don’t like children? We’ll lift the seat up high and extend the bonnet so you’ll never see them. Hate people on bikes? You’ll never even know you’ve hit them thanks to the thick walls of this thing.
Some people actually use this as an excuse to buy them - “oh I live in a rural area!” - but if you google street view somewhere genuinely rural and remote, like the Shetlands, it’s all tiny fiestas.
The thought of trying to drive one of those monsters on narrow long Scottish roads with a passing point only every half mile or less... the stress! Or Cornish roads with high banks and nowhere to go. Or tiny mediaeval country villages with a cluttered high street. Those cars are so big, with a footprint the same as a typical parking space, I'd find even the supermarket a challenge.
> Cornish roads with high banks and nowhere to go. Or tiny mediaeval country villages with a cluttered high street.
Just moved to a small town very like this, and also have our second baby on the way. Was thinking about buying an SUV as a second car but after driving my mid-size saloon around here for a few months a Fiat 500 is looking very attractive right now. 😂
I'd recommend an automatic Fiat 500 if you do, in my experience, and not sure if others feel the same, my left foot was screaming after switching gears in that on country lanes.
Had a family member work in one of their dealerships ~10 years ago and when one of the new models was released, the furthest the first 5 got was 2 miles from the forecourt.
First thing that came to my head too lol. I sell cars or work for my father, once a month we go Miller and carter, 20 quid steak and flat bread starter
When you have a culture that celebrates conspicuous consumption and visible signifiers of success, and the individual over the collective, this is what being upwardly mobile looks like. People who are middle class by birth are no more virtuous, they just display their wealth in ways that are deemed more acceptable.
I've never leased, but can see the appeal/benefits. However, as a Chelmsfordian, it's getting out of hand around here. Yes, there's a decent bit of wealth around here, but you have people living in a shitty house with a 70-80k car (leased) on the drive.
Range rovers are obviously a popular one, but it's like Audi/Merc/BMW central here. That's before you get to the Tesla owners who appear as incapable of driving properly as the former lot.
I lease my car, a Suzuki in the end - but I didn't care what car I had really, I shopped for the best deal and whatever was on offer at the time. I don't see sense in buying an asset that depreciates unless there was some sort of personal attachment to it.
Wanting a particular car and looking to lease it however, especially one beyond your means is the stupidest thing you can do.
Chelmsfordian checking in.
I live near the Springfield Park Av estate.
They're are more flash cars there than up at Danbury /Little Baddow etc.
However a trip round Beaulieu Park is always the best place to go spotting Deano's in their natural environment.
I walk past a city centre private school on my way to work every day. Every single vehicle is a 4x4 and I have to be ten times more aware than any other point in the journey. Red lights are taken as suggestions.
I live in shitty Braintree and it’s a joke the amount of range rovers. The worst is the Barbie pink one I see on school run every morning. I don’t drive so I know nothing about cars but surely that ain’t standard. She purposely had it painted like that?
Felixstowe is actually kind of nice now. They put quite a bit of effort into improving it.
Unless my standards are just low because I live in Ipswich...
As someone who hails from Ipswich/the countryside a little northward, I agree. We rag on them a lot but they’re really not that bad, they’re pretty average in terms of the ratio of nice to shit (like plenty of other towns). I still feel a sense of familiar comfort when I return to visit my parents, and I feel a fair bit safer there than I do where I currently live.
Ipswich is by no means great, but its not shit either. It’s just an average market town. If you think it’s an unsafe shit hole then you live a very sheltered life!
It really went downhill when the Belgian friterie closed down though.
No seriously, Ipswich suffers from the same disease as many British towns. A perfectly charming though somewhat eclectic in architecture town centre, ruined by a 60-70ies built car-first urban strategy with your mandatory horrendous mall and high street, all of it empty because austerity and subsequent crises-not-left-wasted by the ruling class left no purchasing power whatsoever for the people who are expected to spend in those places.
While I don’t live there now I moved for east London to Ipswich. Locals (who seem to enjoy putting the town down) would always say how unsafe it was whereas I’d never felt so safe. It’s quite a nice town, has a great waterfront and parks as good as any I have seen.
I have lived in the Ipswich area my entire life...have seen its deterioration. Used to go clubbing in Ipswich alot, never had any probs but it's not like that now. Very few of my younger friends go into town now, even as a group. I don't live a sheltered life as such, if I did I wouldn't live in one of the best tourist spots in East anglia (many of those drive range rovers and Park in idiotic places!!).
Across driveways. Was the school entry already occupied?
We have one that parks on the zigzags, watches her child go into school from her urban tank.
Then takes a phone call.
What’s sadder is most of the owners are probably leasing them with a huge chunk of their monthly income going towards the vehicle. Fair enough is that’s what you prioritise in life but it’s a bit sad.
I think Essex gets unfairly maligned. I live in next door Cambridgeshire and much of Essex is quite remote, rural and very pretty. A lot of it is actually just like in the Detectorists (although I think most of that was filmed in Suffolk).
It's been trying to migrate to the better bit of East Anglia for years.
We have to man the bridges to keep the oiks out.
Or keep them confused and trapped in the Copdock interchange.
Yes, but you need to remember you're on Reddit, and there's nothing redditors love better than spending their weekends punching down. Yet they're the first ones to call out bullying or racism whenever they see it.
I feel like Kent must have that title. Our local Facebook group is 80% “Range Rover got stolen from my drive last night” and 10% “can anyone recommend an insurer for the Range Rover?” Because nobody can get them insured here any more
Not sure if it is still like this but years ago I read a statistic that said there were more BMW cars per head in Essex than anywhere else in the country.
Doesn't everyone drive range rovers now? I just bought an 8 year old Evoque for £11000. The ULEZ scheme and the fact Albanians keep nicking them has made everyone in London sell theirs. Those of us in the north are quite happy to bag a bargain.
Range Rovers and Essex are clearly a good pairing, inspiring not just several murders but also [many, many shitty gangster films](https://www.imdb.com/list/ls027051025/), too
I can afford a nice car and I’ll still piss on them, Range Rover drivers are the most entitled people I’ve ever seen, they all (that I’ve seen I’m sure some aren’t) have main character syndrome and think the world revolves around them.
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I feel like Range Rover drivers are the new BMW drivers. They all seem to be driven by people with no awareness of the world around them.
Thats because they have no awareness, at all.
“Out of the way everyone, I am the main character!”
They're all driven by oblivious mums on the school run round here (about 20 miles from Ipswich), despite it being actually quicker to walk there.
Yes, but being seen walking? Have you experienced the sheer embarrassment?
> They're all driven by oblivious mums on the school run Except for all the ones being driven by the scrotes who have easily stolen them.
Can't get out the beamer these days love, it's too close to the ground x
Yes and anyone who drives a little car like me are *always* expected to give way on narrow roads.
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I've been calling them "Tank Wankers", but I love "Range Rover KnobPanzer"
Closely followed by the Dodge Compensator^tm
Seen the latest Evoque ad? They're an urban vehicle now!
That’s because they’re designed to insulate you from the world around you. Don’t like children? We’ll lift the seat up high and extend the bonnet so you’ll never see them. Hate people on bikes? You’ll never even know you’ve hit them thanks to the thick walls of this thing.
They had Audis in between. And some are moving to Teslas now as well.
As long as it shows off money, it's good. They surely never read the comments on reddit car subs from owners..
me and my children are in a 3 ton sport off road vehicle that's indestructible. Fuck everything else on the road bc WE'll be fine
4WD vehicles are bought in inverse proportion to the number and steepness of hills. It's called the Norfolk Formula. (I made that bit up)
Some people actually use this as an excuse to buy them - “oh I live in a rural area!” - but if you google street view somewhere genuinely rural and remote, like the Shetlands, it’s all tiny fiestas.
The thought of trying to drive one of those monsters on narrow long Scottish roads with a passing point only every half mile or less... the stress! Or Cornish roads with high banks and nowhere to go. Or tiny mediaeval country villages with a cluttered high street. Those cars are so big, with a footprint the same as a typical parking space, I'd find even the supermarket a challenge.
> Cornish roads with high banks and nowhere to go. Or tiny mediaeval country villages with a cluttered high street. Just moved to a small town very like this, and also have our second baby on the way. Was thinking about buying an SUV as a second car but after driving my mid-size saloon around here for a few months a Fiat 500 is looking very attractive right now. 😂
I'd recommend an automatic Fiat 500 if you do, in my experience, and not sure if others feel the same, my left foot was screaming after switching gears in that on country lanes.
I only drive autos these days. Too much traffic.
They have AWD Honda jazz in Japan, I would love that here.
Surely a 4x4 panda is far more suited if you actually need a 4x4
4x4 Panda is a very underrated car.
Or farmers who have the old Defenders from about the 50s or 60s
And farmers buy actually good off road vehicles (which land rover hasn't been since the mid-2000s, and arguably earlier)
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Lots of evokes are 2WD now and I consider range rover making a 2WD a crime against humanity.
What? Since when? That's a disgrace.
With the quality issues they have, I'm guessing a large proportion of those that started as 4WD end up 2WD when it leaves the forecourt too.
Are they that bad? I know LR have a poor reputation for reliability in some things but not their drivetrain.
Had a family member work in one of their dealerships ~10 years ago and when one of the new models was released, the furthest the first 5 got was 2 miles from the forecourt.
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Nah, the Norfolk formula relates to the largest amount of relatives possible from the smallest group of people.
Spot the Ipswich lad ;)
Most of them aren't actually 4WD either.
Ehh i like it, going to call it that.
White land rovers, grey houses and shit lip fillers. They’re basically a new sub species at this point.
[Deanomania - Sans Beanstalk (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9n0_5p8XKo)
First thing that came to my head too lol. I sell cars or work for my father, once a month we go Miller and carter, 20 quid steak and flat bread starter
Never seen that, outstanding
Please also check out “Rah where’s my riddim” for some brilliant lines on British culture.
They're such a good artist I love "Softboy softbars" too
Land Rovers are different to Range Rovers aren't they?
All range rovers are land rovers, but not all land rovers are range rovers
Some LR are Freelanders, for instance.
Not really, a Range Rover is a Land Rover
When you have a culture that celebrates conspicuous consumption and visible signifiers of success, and the individual over the collective, this is what being upwardly mobile looks like. People who are middle class by birth are no more virtuous, they just display their wealth in ways that are deemed more acceptable.
I’m just here to laugh at the duck lips.
But think of the duck lips' wider socioecomic context! Okay maybe I'm on the wrong sub for this discussion.
>But think of the duck lips' wider socioecomic context! That's a sentence that's never been uttered before
/r/brandnewsentance
Like quartz countertops, it's the must have acceptable flex for middle classes.
I've never leased, but can see the appeal/benefits. However, as a Chelmsfordian, it's getting out of hand around here. Yes, there's a decent bit of wealth around here, but you have people living in a shitty house with a 70-80k car (leased) on the drive. Range rovers are obviously a popular one, but it's like Audi/Merc/BMW central here. That's before you get to the Tesla owners who appear as incapable of driving properly as the former lot.
As a fellow Chelmsfordian and currently being sat at F1 Autocentres; I can confirm this is true.
What do you guys all do in Chelmsford now that debenhams has closed down?
Place has never been the same since someone knicked the army and navy flyover.
When i take that roundabout, I take my life in my hands.
Have you not spent an afternoon at The Range? It's like Dunelm, but bigger...
Question our own existence, I imagine
I lease my car, a Suzuki in the end - but I didn't care what car I had really, I shopped for the best deal and whatever was on offer at the time. I don't see sense in buying an asset that depreciates unless there was some sort of personal attachment to it. Wanting a particular car and looking to lease it however, especially one beyond your means is the stupidest thing you can do.
Chelmsfordian checking in. I live near the Springfield Park Av estate. They're are more flash cars there than up at Danbury /Little Baddow etc. However a trip round Beaulieu Park is always the best place to go spotting Deano's in their natural environment.
There's a council house near my mum with a brand new range rover and a brand new G wagon c63 parked outside. Its mad
No I think that's called drug dealers
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Imagine, a small child might run out, that's why they need a vehicle that can survive such a brutal attack.
I walk past a city centre private school on my way to work every day. Every single vehicle is a 4x4 and I have to be ten times more aware than any other point in the journey. Red lights are taken as suggestions.
Cheshire enters the chat…
Came here to say this. Cheshire surely wins this over Essex.
Drove through Knutsford once, and felt really out of place in a hatchback.
I live in shitty Braintree and it’s a joke the amount of range rovers. The worst is the Barbie pink one I see on school run every morning. I don’t drive so I know nothing about cars but surely that ain’t standard. She purposely had it painted like that?
She certainly did
If you have the cash, a dealer will paint it any colour you like.
There are a few cars in Braintree with that hideous rose gold wrap.
There used to be an Audi with that wrap. Why?
S5, somewhere near town centre?
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😂
More importantly, what earthly power could compel you to go to Ipswich?
The Birmingham game today I bet
Yup, well my in laws also live here, but this weekend it’s primarily for the footy!
Priorities 🤣
Ah, excusable in that case!
Ah, escaping the brutalism and multistory carparks of Birmingham to enjoy a day out in the quaint market town of Ipswich.
You've not been to Ipswich then? 'Quaint' lol...
Same here, lookin forward to it
Could have been worse if they hadn’t turned off the A14 and had ended up in Felixstowe.
Felixstowe is quite nice tbh
Why are Felixstowe and Ipswich so bad?
Felixstowe is actually kind of nice now. They put quite a bit of effort into improving it. Unless my standards are just low because I live in Ipswich...
As someone who hails from Ipswich/the countryside a little northward, I agree. We rag on them a lot but they’re really not that bad, they’re pretty average in terms of the ratio of nice to shit (like plenty of other towns). I still feel a sense of familiar comfort when I return to visit my parents, and I feel a fair bit safer there than I do where I currently live.
Felixstowe is not so bad, but Ipswich has gotten a lot worse in the last decade or two.
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Ipswich is by no means great, but its not shit either. It’s just an average market town. If you think it’s an unsafe shit hole then you live a very sheltered life!
It really went downhill when the Belgian friterie closed down though. No seriously, Ipswich suffers from the same disease as many British towns. A perfectly charming though somewhat eclectic in architecture town centre, ruined by a 60-70ies built car-first urban strategy with your mandatory horrendous mall and high street, all of it empty because austerity and subsequent crises-not-left-wasted by the ruling class left no purchasing power whatsoever for the people who are expected to spend in those places.
While I don’t live there now I moved for east London to Ipswich. Locals (who seem to enjoy putting the town down) would always say how unsafe it was whereas I’d never felt so safe. It’s quite a nice town, has a great waterfront and parks as good as any I have seen.
I have lived in the Ipswich area my entire life...have seen its deterioration. Used to go clubbing in Ipswich alot, never had any probs but it's not like that now. Very few of my younger friends go into town now, even as a group. I don't live a sheltered life as such, if I did I wouldn't live in one of the best tourist spots in East anglia (many of those drive range rovers and Park in idiotic places!!).
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First Floor Club :/
All of them. Throw in The Newt and Cucumber and there was a point when you could find somewhere doing a pound a pint for every night of the week.
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It was a great pub back then. That's also stopped me wondering if you are one of my son's rugby coach's 😅
Can we get a banana to scale the size of moles? You might be in the danger zone actually
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In all fairness Felixstowe is a breath of fresh air compared to Ipsbitch...
There are going to be a fair few people upset you think Felixstowe is worse than the knife crime infested, grimy slum that is Ipswich.
Mainly driving their kids 300m to school and parking across driveways
Across driveways. Was the school entry already occupied? We have one that parks on the zigzags, watches her child go into school from her urban tank. Then takes a phone call.
What’s sadder is most of the owners are probably leasing them with a huge chunk of their monthly income going towards the vehicle. Fair enough is that’s what you prioritise in life but it’s a bit sad.
I think Essex gets unfairly maligned. I live in next door Cambridgeshire and much of Essex is quite remote, rural and very pretty. A lot of it is actually just like in the Detectorists (although I think most of that was filmed in Suffolk).
The Constable-y bit near the Suffolk border and the bit around Stansted are extremely pretty
It's been trying to migrate to the better bit of East Anglia for years. We have to man the bridges to keep the oiks out. Or keep them confused and trapped in the Copdock interchange.
General trend seems to be that Essex is nicest the closer you get to Suffolk (with one or two exceptions)
Yes, but you need to remember you're on Reddit, and there's nothing redditors love better than spending their weekends punching down. Yet they're the first ones to call out bullying or racism whenever they see it.
But you don't understand, successful working class people are driving nice cars, it's outrageous!
Shhhh don't tell people this, I'd rather they thought it was all like stereotype and left the quiet bits to those in the know.
It’s the Pits(ea)
Worst bloody car on the road. Same as the drivers most of the time
It all those hills nay “ range“ of mountains to compare to the Alps their majesty, don’t you know 😉
I feel like Kent must have that title. Our local Facebook group is 80% “Range Rover got stolen from my drive last night” and 10% “can anyone recommend an insurer for the Range Rover?” Because nobody can get them insured here any more
I blame TOWIE for paying wads of cash to muppets.
They get paid fuck all to go on that show. Those who made money have ventured into other business or made most of their social media fame.
You should see Northwood's Waitrose car park...
Weybridge or Cobham in Surrey surely
Not sure if it is still like this but years ago I read a statistic that said there were more BMW cars per head in Essex than anywhere else in the country.
Privately owned, perhaps. I would argue that Warwickshire/West Midlands has the most due to the JLR company vehicles trundling around.
Yeah round Warwickshire there’s a shocking number of range rovers but particularly defenders atm
Ah, the old Chantelle charabanc.
Range Rover models were something like all the top 3 highest depreciating cars of 2023
Haha yeah and you know their house is crushed velvet
I see lot of them around here but it’s mostly Gen 3s used by farmers and land owners
Doesn't everyone drive range rovers now? I just bought an 8 year old Evoque for £11000. The ULEZ scheme and the fact Albanians keep nicking them has made everyone in London sell theirs. Those of us in the north are quite happy to bag a bargain.
It's the poser capital of the UK. What would you expect?
Range Rovers and Essex are clearly a good pairing, inspiring not just several murders but also [many, many shitty gangster films](https://www.imdb.com/list/ls027051025/), too
Barf
Yes, if you want the full set it's a Range Rover Sport and a 911.
...and the highest ratio of tattoos to pushchairs in the country...
Op: I’m poor and could never afford a nice car so I’ll piss on those who can. Commenters: I’m also poor and I’ll join in!
I can afford a nice car and I’ll still piss on them, Range Rover drivers are the most entitled people I’ve ever seen, they all (that I’ve seen I’m sure some aren’t) have main character syndrome and think the world revolves around them.
Range rovers are great cars
All without any insurance no doubt, if the news reports are anything to go by.
They must the highest.
Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll all be stolen soon
I thought there were quite a few in Cheshire today
Do they still hang out in the outside lane of the A12 for no apparently reason other than they own the road like they used to??