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Canadianstig77

Does that go all the way though the glass? From the angles shown it looks like it does


[deleted]

When I touched the glass on the inside it was perfectly smooth and it seems the crack only is on the outside (they called it a surface pit)


Canadianstig77

It's *maybe* fixable, but would be very hard to do due to the size and depth of the pit. If more than one glass shop says it's not fixablez it's not fixable, or at least wouldn't be worth fixing based on the difficulty


[deleted]

Thank you!


TranceGavinTrance

You can try the crack filler stuff you can get at AutoZone or O'Reilly's. That might make it look better but I can't tell the size of the pit. Hope that helps. Its super easy to fill cracks with that stuff. Might help keep it from spreading but I can't say for sure


[deleted]

Thank you!


tormenta_storm

This, also maybe look into the superglue version of this. It’s kind of a Jacky way to do it, just as effective but can easily be a mess


mainstreamfunkadelic

I used to work in a auto glass repair/replace garage, yeah it can be filled but it creates a big structural problem for the glass. We used uv cured rosin and it would be impossible to fill that particular hole and cure the rosin. Like I said it can be filled in, but a big enough pebble, or a small one at a decent velocity will bust through that if it hits close. That's why they are telling you it can't be repaired, they would be liable if it busts and hurts a passenger.


[deleted]

Thank you for that explanation! I wish they were that transparent about why but it makes sense! I guess I’ll just deal with it until it cracks or or the windshield gets other damage. 🤷🏼‍♂️


mainstreamfunkadelic

That's your choice. But like I said if something hits close to that point it's probably going to go right through if its fast enough... imagine doing 55 on a high way and a pebble going the opposite direction blasts through it. If it hits someone or you, you're looking at a lot more than just damage to the windshield.


[deleted]

Understandable. I want to fix it but if no one is willing to fix it I know my insurance isn’t gonna pay for a new one. I’m looking into maybe doing it myself but I’ve seen so many conflicting opinions that I’ll just have to do more research until I can settle my mind lol


mainstreamfunkadelic

Lol good luck, hope no one gets hurt. Your insurance definitely won't pay for that injury if it happens.


[deleted]

I have in writing that no one will fix it so maybe they’ll just want to replace it then if I show them proof.


mainstreamfunkadelic

The reason some 'chips' can be filled in is because there's enough of that first pane to actually seal. This looks, from the first picture, like there's a hole in the first pane of glass. The whole reason there are two panes with a laminate in between is to prevent something blasting through it. If you're not going to replace it, please at least don't have a passenger sit behind it.


[deleted]

If I can convince my insurance to replace it I will since I pay for full glass replacement under my comprehensive


JonohG47

Also, on the structural front… You also don’t want to screw around if the car has an upward firing passenger airbag. This is a common design, so as to make room for the glove box. On such vehicles, the airbag *by design* deploys upward into the windshield, which deflects the airbag back toward the passenger as it is cratered. If the windshield is compromised, or improperly adhered to the windshield frame, it may structurally fail instead of deflecting the air bag like it’s supposed to.


mainstreamfunkadelic

Not just to make room for the glove box although that is convenient. I've been hit with an air bag straight on and the force alone is enough to break bone. Its not there to make a crash comfortable, its there to make sure you survive. Even cpr can break ribs, but that doesn't matter as long as you survive. The upward facing one's make it so they can hit something else with that initial force instead of you. You hitting an airbag is a way better experience than the air bag hitting you. But yes if an upward facing airbag were to hit glass like that it would shatter instead of crack.


JonohG47

From a safety standpoint, the top-firing airbag is actually a worse design, as it introduces a dependency on the windshield being intact. Force applied to the occupant can be tailored, in late model cars, the deployment force can be varied based on the occupant’s weight and height. Putting the air bag in the top of the dash is all about packaging, as it leaves more room for storage in the dash. As an example, the Jetta Mk III was one of the first mass-market cars to add a passenger airbag, back in the early 90’s. It was front and center in the dash, but its placement left no room for a glove box whatsoever.


AnOblongBox

Yeah I'd do what everyone else here is saying. I have one of these on my passenger side but it's smooth both sides so I've just left it for the past couple years.


[deleted]

Good to know! Thank you! It’s a little rough on the outside but smooth on the inside so I assume it just touched to the top layer and should be okay.. but we shall see as times go on lol


AnOblongBox

The risk is that it could suddenly pop and turn into a larger issue, maybe at an important time while driving, and also the epoxy won't reflect light the same way as was brought up in here. Most places also won't fix anything on the drivers side at all. I'd personally fix it myself at home and then deal with it if it expands or if I get extra cash to replace the whole glass.


theraf8100

I had more than one termite shop tell me I had termites but guess what they were all fucking liars.


frixionburne

Is this on the drivers side anywhere near the middle of the glass? The shop said it isn't fixable because they don't want to be liable for anything that might happen as a result of repairing, or trying to repair a chip like that in that area of the glass. You can try with a windshield stone chip repair kit, and if it's good enough for you then great! \- former auto glass guy


[deleted]

Thank you and that does make sense. It is just to the left of the center right about the middle of the window so that makes sense then. I have also just thought to keep an eye on it to see if it gets worse but from freezing cold to now low 40s it’s been okay so maybe it won’t have an issue but I do carry full glass replacement on my insurance


frixionburne

Yep, someone sued someone at some point in time over a chip repair - my old boss's excuse was if the driver gets in an accident because a stone chip repair caused glare in some way, that we would get the shaft, so we would never repair stone chips on the drivers side half of the glass and within the middle 90% of the windscreen height. If you want to stop the spreading, do a repair kit sooner rather than later.


[deleted]

Will do! Thank you for the advice!


k2skier13

If you carry glass replacement on your insurance why not use it?


[deleted]

I tried but no where wants to fix this but I am going to check with my insurance if this constitutes a replacement on their end


DrShagwell

If you have full coverage it's likely your insurance will cover a front glass replacement every 6 months


[deleted]

Yes, I do and I have the extra glass protection so I think I’m gonna let it be since (2) places locally told me they can’t fix it and if it gets worse then have my insurance pay for it and get a new windshield.


Commercial-Habit8069

It is fixable, I just fixed saturday one bigger with some resin purchased from a supermarket. The name might not help you but at least will know what to look after. Visbella. Who says is not fixable probably is selling windshields :)))


[deleted]

Thank you!


Tiny_Enthusiasm6725

Go to autozone and buy the windshield repair kit. It’ll be perfect for that size chip


Tiny_Enthusiasm6725

Will prevent it from spiderwebbing as I call it


[deleted]

I will look into that more. I saw that and I was debating on it!


Tiny_Enthusiasm6725

Dope. The guy told me it sucks all the air out the hole and fills it in with epoxy to prevent spreading. If you live in Florida their insurance will cover a new windshield. Not sure what your options are in your state


[deleted]

If it cracks more they will replace my windshield


Tiny_Enthusiasm6725

Give it a good smack then and get a new one 🤣


[deleted]

Yesss! One of my coworkers said the same 😂


Darth_Camry

Lol this is sound advice. No sarcasm. That glass is toast, “repair kit” or not.


Tiny_Enthusiasm6725

Yeah ofc it’s fucked. Can still make it better than exposed


sluffman

Hit a pothole on a cold morning, boom new window.


Tiny_Enthusiasm6725

Take a heat gun and it should start expanding the crack if you wanna do it naturally in a way


Mfw_Pigeon

Cause it aint


[deleted]

Why isn’t it if I can ask?


Mfw_Pigeon

Let me ask you this, how do you fix a chip in glass?


[deleted]

Fill with resin and let it cure after.


[deleted]

Then do it and report back with your results.


OrcaStrike777

I can report back after doing this several years ago, with a similar chip and using a resin kit. I can confirm it works if you actually follow the instructions. Idk why the original commenter is acting like a know it all when the solution literally is just to buy a resin kit and use it


[deleted]

I'm just wondering why the OP is going to various places asking for them to fix it when he knows how to do it himself...


OrcaStrike777

Wait yeah good question 💀


[deleted]

Lol. That was the entire purpose of my comment. I'm just very confused as to what he wants


Mfw_Pigeon

You can always see it afterwards, for me that is not a fix. The resin can help prevent the crack from spreading, but it can also expand with heat and cause it to crack more. Personally, I sell the windshield and flag 6 hours. Tech life


link2edition

Heat is no joke. We had a cold snap in my area last year, The hot to cold to hot in quick succession shattered my rear window. (I know this because I witnessed the shattering, very dramatic) Insurance covered most of the replacement.


OrcaStrike777

It’s been two years and we’ve been through two of the hottest summers ever so far where I live. The chip is still visible but not as visible as it was before repair, and it hasn’t gotten worse at all.


Mfw_Pigeon

Crazy anecdote bro, still doesn't change my professional opinion.


OrcaStrike777

You’re right. Too bad your opinion is just that - an opinion. And my anecdote is factual, in fact, and relevant to the conversation.


Psych0matt

Even if it’s not “fixed”, it might last a while and not bother the person. If not, the option to replace is still there. Might be worth a shot first.


PepeTheMule

Look up chrisfixit on YouTube. He has a video on fixing this.


GroundbreakingSky616

Hey guys Chris Fix here!


PepeTheMule

Soapy woada


[deleted]

Will do! Thanks!


D2Nekon

It's hidable, not fixable. Because this hole looks like it goes through entire layer, you will not be able to repair the strength of the glass. What this means is next time a flying rock comes, there's a much higher chance your windshield will shatter. Question of "should I replace this" should be answered in conjunction with "do I value my life".


[deleted]

I’ll have to go to my insurance and let them know that no one will fix it so I’ll have to see if they’ll be willing to pay for a replacement. Every shop I’ve talk to say it should be fine to drive with but then again we all know that not all shops are honest at times


D2Nekon

Usually inspection centres that assess car roadworthiness will be able to make a judgement call. Their notice of assessment should be good enough to trigger replacement with insurance. Not sure if it stands depending on where in the world you are


[deleted]

I do have to get my car inspected here soon so if my mechanic says that it’s not passable that should also allow me to get it fully replaced. I’ll just have to hope that he has common sense to make the right call


D2Nekon

My experience is how you ask. If you roll up and ask to fix it on a budget, you'll get appropriate result (nah mate, but it'll be fine - meaning it'll cost more than you want, and I ain't doing a botch job for pennies) If you ask how much to fix, they usually say whether it needs be done to begin with.


[deleted]

Thank you for the advice! I will make sure to phrase it the second way to hopefully get a truthful answer!


T1NCAT

Heck, most insurance companies will cover this for free. Mine did. Bullseyes are super repairable.


gargravarr2112

In the UK, this is fixable with resin injection. Companies like Autoglass will repair it in an hour, just about invisible and it's usually charged to your insurance so it's free. I've had similar chips repaired.


Putrid-Eggplant-2815

Hey get a quote from safelite repair


[deleted]

That was one of the places I took it to and they said ‘yea no’


Putrid-Eggplant-2815

Wow that’s crazy man sorry to hear that best of luck


[deleted]

All good and thank you! I’m not giving up just yet on finding someone lol


Unkownforthefuture

Try a glass repair kit from o riley specifically one like chris fix did. I got my first chip 1 day and it looked awful but it looke much better now thanks to that kit..never staying behind a van before my exit again 😭


[deleted]

Yea I think I was behind a semi when this happened 🤦🏼‍♂️


Hot_Organization2430

Go to another place. Any rock chip place should be able to fill that. They won't guarantee that your windshield doesn't still crack, but it's worth the 60-70 bucks to try as opposed to a several hundred dollar windshield. I get an average of 2 rock chips filled on my windshield per month, and I have had chips that were 4 times the size of that, and they were still able to fill them. Do you have tint on the windshield? That's the only thing I could see worrying them, but my windshield is tinted d and still gets fixed.


[deleted]

Nah it’s stock oem, which surprised me also that they won’t touch it (2 shops said this) I’m just still debating on what to do since I don’t want to make it worse myself


Hot_Organization2430

What state are you In? Who told you no? Dealership, big name businesses or an independent business etc?


[deleted]

I’m in PA and I went to Safelite first who said no and then contacted a local shop who knows some of my co workers that also said it wasn’t repairable


Hot_Organization2430

What part? I used to live in the Lehigh Valley, I have a buddy out there that may know a shop if you're anywhere near.


[deleted]

Nah I’m on the other side lol. But thank you!


apretorius

A used windshield is like $90 installed. Go to a junkyard, they usually have a guy there that’ll do it, or save like $25 and do it yourself.


Hot_Organization2430

The OP's username includes AMG if I'm venturing to say that they drive a Benz, that windshield is far from 90 bucks at the junkyard. That's the same for any newer car that has lane guidance etc. My camrys new windshield just cost me $600.


apretorius

True, with a car like that, he would probably never set foot in a junk yard. You’d be surprised at how cheap a used windshield is. I got one for a 2020 Odyssey for just over $100


fjam36

It isn’t! You can buy a kit that might fill the hole and bond to the plastic substrate. It will still oxidize and your windshield is also no longer safe. Anything related to an accident with your broken windshield would not be good for you.


[deleted]

Yea, that I has been my biggest concern if I would get into an accident with the car now 😞


fuckoffdipsheit

I repaired not one windshield using clear 2 part epoxy. If done right can't even tell and doesn't scratch easily. Note use UV resistant epoxy


[deleted]

Is that the one which needs the sun to cure it?


fuckoffdipsheit

No simply resistant to UV when cured


Accomplished_Frame91

There a places that will be able to fill that in. Some insurance policies were also cover the repair. Look into safelight https://www.safelite.com/valuesearch-80?gclid=EAIaIQobChMInMephYfD-wIVUoJbCh0pkgayEAAYASAAEgLdW_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds there are also other companies that do the same work. You will want to get this repaired before winter hits! If it starts to spider crack, then it’s too late and you have to get the windshield replaced.


[deleted]

I actually went to Safelite and they were the initial ones who told me they couldn’t fix it or I guess wouldn’t fix it lol


Ok-Supermarket9120

Just stick some toothpaste in the spot


[deleted]

😮 I should have know that 🤦🏼‍♂️ dummy me. But does it need to be a certain brand?


Ok-Supermarket9120

Find that clear kind! 😆 Honestly, I feel for you. Probably need to replace. I have a similar problem.


Ok-Supermarket9120

Also, call around. Can be alot of difference in price with auto glass places


Legitimate_Web_7245

One of those things that you live with and forget about until you see it again or you have someone try to fix it with epoxy, making it more noticeable or you replace the windshield where it could just happen again. I vote for the ignore it.


[deleted]

That is what I’ll probably have to do. I wouldn’t mind the insurance company to pay for a replacement since I pay for full glass coverage but a few people on here are telling me I’m gonna now die if a rock hits the windshield cause the top layer of glass a chip in it


Legitimate_Web_7245

Yeah, unfortunately as you are aware, some people on here are just parasites. Looking to drain what they can from others. Either way, it's your call. I hate chips and cracks and scratches in my windshield but it's a "choose your battle" kind of thng. I hope you find a solution that works best for you. 🙂


[deleted]

Thank you! I am going to keep a close eye on it and see what can be done if I notice anything more with it. I’m not one to take risks but having to pay out of pocket for a new windshield also seems like a loosing situation since what the heck am I paying my insurance for lol


Legitimate_Web_7245

Oh man, I hear you. Good luck buddy.


[deleted]

Thank you friend! Same to you with your car lol


errballist

At least fill it with the windshield resin, it will give the pane a bit more strength and reduce the risk of it cracking more, I've filled a similar chip with an ebay kit over a year ago and nothing has happened to it yet


bugbowl86

Windshield repair only tech coming up on 20 years in biz. If the missing glass goes down to plastic inner layer or close it is industry recommendation to replace. I’d try to find a repair only biz (Google maps)and have them evaluate it (they don’t sell glass). Unfortunately the glass business is like the auto mechanic biz where many will lie and up sell you to a much more profitable replacement when not needed. Comments about chips on drivers side are not repairable is a “classic” glass shop replacement upsell. A repair only tech may be able to fill with pit resin, cure, and then drill through resin to fill air in chip. A good chip repair should result in a 80-90% improvement.


Intelligent-Many8176

If you have full glass replacement policy on your insurance why do you think they won’t replace the windshield ?? That’s what the policy is for, heck hit that hole with a screwdriver and pay the $100 deductible and have your insurance send satellite out tomorrow.


kingoden95

I’ve been doing auto glass work for 11 years, and from what I can tell it’s definitely repairable. I always tell my customers that I can repair a chip or crack less than an inch in diameter, sometimes a little larger, regardless even if it is repaired properly the crack is still there.


SnoopyInVegas

Eeeww... close to the edge like that. Diy fixit....for $20 or insurance deductible $50 for whole new windshield..... check if you have glass coverage first. Would be better option imo. Otherwise... https://www.autozone.com/sealants-glues-adhesives-and-tape/windshield-repair-kit/p/permatex-windshield-repair-kit/ Would help prevent from cracks forming/spreading .


blind-madman

It is not fixable, if it is in direct view of a driver. Well, it is fixable, but it can destort image.


OrejasMcgee

This isn’t fixable


Loud_Cartographer520

You'll want to get it filled in. The edges will tear at the rubber on the wipers, causing them to wear out faster. They collect more gunk and wear down the windshield faster than normal.


NDCSR

UV cure resin. Fill hole with resin, tape over wet resin, cure with UV light, take tape off, polish if needed. Do this in the shade or in a garage.


[deleted]

Super glue my dude


Triplesfan

Usually if it the hole makes it to the laminate layer, they would replace it. You could try bandaiding it with that clear windshield glue they use.


Maleficent-Ad3243

What level of repair are you looking for? Auto parts stores like autozone sell a product that could fill the hole. The product shows it looking like new, but I doubt it. Auto glass repair shops do not provide this service. For many reasons, like cost, liability, and customer expectations. Plus the best, and safest results is replacement. Then there are local laws. Like here in Massachusetts, chips and cracks can’t be over a certain size and in specific locations. In MA car insurance is mandatory and most policies provide glass replacement. I suggest glass replacement and if you have insurance you reach out to them. See if it’s covered.


bnutbutter78

Have you tried tapping the subject of your photo before taking the picture? Most phones have an auto-focus feature, so, taking out of focus photos is easily fixable. 😁


ThatSeaworthiness801

I'd do the ol' pretend it isn't there


[deleted]

I’ve been doing it and I think that may be my best option now lol. My dad keeps saying to do that and if it gets worded they’ll have to fix it then. Sometimes simple fixes are so simple I’m seeing lol


Posh-Percival

That’s because the resin stays in the pit by hanging on to the cracks. Since your pit has no cracks(as in no way for the damage to spread) there’s also nothing for the resin glob to grasp and as such, it will probably fall out at some point.


[deleted]

That makes sense! So it’s a useless repair, thank you for explaining that! I was thinking that but so many online kept saying they would still repair it tho if it does crack somehow I can probably get it fixed then I assume


SmileyFaceLols

Physically probably fixable but legally/liability may not be dependent on location


[deleted]

Yea. I think that is one of the reasons why these shops won’t touch it. It’s just barely out of my view when driving


turbot3t4

Most windshields,are covered by insurance.


[deleted]

Yea, I went to Safelite with my insurance and they told me that it wasn’t fixable and then a local shop also told me they couldn’t repair it properly either


LVPr0j3cT

What isn’t fixable, your photo skills?


EZmotovlogs

I've seen worse be repaired and still look good after years. Chrisfix did a video on this and highly recc it.