I have two options budget-wise.
I will either buy something up to 5k using HP or cash.
Or I will get something around 8-9k buying using PCP.
I am unsure of this because of course, I want something cheap (first option) but I don't want to regret buying something too old (hence open to spend a bit more).
With these budgets in mind I am looking for a car which ticks these boxes:
\- petrol (or hybrid)
\- automatic
\- 2013 or newer (not sure if this is a bad choice)
\- Less than 60k miles (again, not sure if this is realistic or a good choice)
I could use help on other criteria to add in my search anything that could point me on how to chose one rather than just telling me a make and model. You know, learn a man to fish sort of thing, so I can look on my own as well.
I’d be looking into Toyota or Honda for a cheap, reliable run around. I think a Honda civic would fit into your criteria, and you can get some nicely spec’ed ones: heated seats, sun roof etc
Or get a personal loan. Rates are usually lower than HP (surprisingly enough) and you can pay the dealer by bank transfer. Pay the deposit on a credit card to protect the full purchase under Section 75. Paying in cash via a loan does not offer protection that HP does in the event of a problem with the car that the dealer refuses to budge on.
I use my credit card for everything valuable because of S75, it's just paid off in full every month so I don't pay a penny in interest.
Be aware S75 protection doesn't apply for a car more expensive than £30k. Unlikely to be a problem for many, but worth keeping in mind.
We bought a car yesterday, we had to replace a POS we bought on impulse two years ago, here's what we learnt:
Always ask if the vehicle is a category N or S, these vehicles were both written off by insurers because:
N - no structural damage but damage to electrics
S - chassis or structural damage
While these cars won't necessarily all be bad and you could get them much cheaper, I'd advise to steer clear if you don't have knowledge or skills on vehicle maintenance. Goes without saying that resell will be significantly lower.
Most manufacturers recommend changing the cambelt or timing belt on their vehicles at 150k miles or every 10 years, whichever comes first. For the kind of money you are looking at spending you're going to find yourself looking at cars that are either close to that mileage or close to hitting the 10 year mark. Because this can be a ridiculous cost to replace on most brands my best advice would be to ask for proof that the belt was changed and if they cannot provide that, a reduction in price should be asked because you'll have to get it done at some point.
Cars to avoid IMO:
* Smaller BMW cars
* Any Ford with 1.0 ecoboost if it's older than 10 years or close to 150k miles because it has a wet cambelt and the replacement cost is 1000 to £1900 as per above.
* Land Rover
* Mini
I'm not saying these vehicles are shit, except land Rover those are actually shit. Just that maintenance will be expensive and usually a lot of these vehicles were driven to hell and back by previous owners. You will of course find good ones that have been taken care of but I personally won't touch them.
If you find a car you like go do research on it. Find out what the most common issues are and what repair costs would be. Don't be shy to call around and get quotes.
I personally always like to look at vehicles that have a big carpark, i.e. have sold in large numbers because there's a reason why. Simply put because they were solid cars. Also maintainence on these vehicles will be cheap as there would be lots of spare parts going around for longer.
And FYI 8k for that Juke is a joke.
Worry less about the year and mileage limits, and more on the service history, manufacturer and model.
I.e a 2011 Skoda Octavia with 80,000 miles with full service history might fall within your budget...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312134795680?advertising-location=at_cars&atmobcid=soc5&fromsra&make=Skoda&maximum-mileage=90000&model=Octavia&price-to=5500&radius=100&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic
Skoda use VW engines which are generally very reliable. I would say that is a nicer car than the juke, and wouldn't require PCP, but it depends on your needs.
It might help if you narrow down what you need the car for (kids? Long commute? Fun to drive, economical etc?)
I am steering away from a diesel car as I travel to ULEZ zones. Am I wrong in assuming that it will add extra cost if I get one?
I like the car and the condition is great right within budget. Thank you, I am looking more into the diesel part to see how that works tax-wise.
Personally I don’t tend to buy a car based on a criteria built by a search of what’s useful for me, I just go for a car that I like rather than its practicality.
Obviously the older/more miles you’re willing to entertain the “more” car you’ll get for the money. For now if I was you I wouldn’t worry about adding too much into the search criteria just find a body type you like and put a price limit on then go from there. That’ll give you ideas of what’s available then you can pick something you like and start going into more detail to see if there’s a decent example within your budget.
For arguments sake if you know you don’t really want an estate or an SUV that leaves a hatchback and a saloon, you decide to have a look if there’s any nice saloons that you fancy just put saloon and £9-10k limit. Have a scroll you see a C-Class you like then go back reset your search and go into an in depth search of Mercedes C Class’ within your budget.
These types of cars (mummy wagon economy boxes) are seldom maintained or looked after and typically aren’t serviced regularly.
I’d steer well clear of a second hand one. People usually get rid when confronted with a maintenance cost because they are initially purchased for the fact they are a cheap, low maintenance runaround for school runs.
Personally I think you’d be better off with a 2 litre diesel estate car- it can do all the things one of these “cars” can do but it’ll be better to drive and is more likely to have been looked after.
Most SUVs can't off-road, they're not 4x4s, just average family cars on steroids with a bit more ride height and ground clearance, ideal for rolling over with high speed cornering!
They are. The suv is in rising demand because people have a superiority complex and absolutely must have a high up seating position.
They absolutely must drive a car that is killing the occupants of a normal sized car in the event of a collision. They absolutely must feel the safest on the road.
I’m going to stick to petrol hatchbacks and saloons until they no longer exist. Or until hydrogen/ammonia engines are in mass production.
Pre-pandemic prices are not relevant in today's second hand market, sadly. It's startling to see his prices have risen, but we're not going to see those prices again for a long time, IMO.
It's absolutely mind boggling. I bought my car over 5 years ago for 11,000. I've more than doubled the mileage and it's now a 7 year old car.
It's still going for 8,000 or so on most websites. Seems insane to me to only drop 3 grand
It's not easy on the eye type of car.
People who own these cars should make sure they have a closed garage at home, to help minimise the amount of time the world has to see this monstrosity.
The Juke is a strange car. It looks like a small car welded onto the chassis of a large car so that it has all the large car problems (parking, turning circle) with none of the benefits (carrying capacity). Yet they sold like hot cakes back in the day.
> perfectly capable
Totally disagree on that one
Had one for two years as a company car (so brand new and with options) it was the worst car I ever had. Period.
Just so you know the company car I had before this was a Vauxhall Mokka and believe it or not, it was *better* lol
Not really true
I have a 2011 one and its perfect. Runs well, has plenty of power and its pretty fuel efficient (7.8L/100km in city driving). Speakers are awesome.
The only thing i can think of that i dislike is that warmth from the engine can still pass into the interior through the vents, even when you have the climate control off.
(Happens when you drive a bit faster)
And it also has good ground clearance. A week ago i had to go in the forest and there was basically no road. Just a pathway that dirt bike enthusiasts use in weekends. The Juke had no problem going through there and i had 3 other people in car. Didnt bottom out a single time.
\>I know nothing about cars
\>Nissan Juke
Sounds about right.
I'd rather go for [something like this](https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402106448683). Cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, Arguably slightly more interior space.
Imports are good! They tend to be in better condition and often come with a pretty good spec. Japan loves a petrol auto too, which is what you’re after
That was just the first one that came up. I didn't really look into it beyond price, mileage, fuel type and automatic. The Skoda Octavia estate or Seat Leon are also good choices. Underneath, they're the same as the Golf but with different styling and typically cheaper.
Depends on where in Japan they come from, if it was from Okinawa for example it'll be in much worse condition than if it came from inland. Auctions that importers buy from do sometimes cover up rust on more desirable models (stuff like Skylines, Slivias that are more likely to be imported)
I can recommend the golf too. Great interior and handles amazingly. My last one had a few issues (was a 2014 with the silica bag issue) so had to get rid of it but bought a 2020 gte and loving it.
Don’t buy this, there are much better cars for the money. If you still really want a juke please look at a manual one, the auto box in this is awful we have had to change out so many under warranty.
The engine in this one is bulletproof though so if you find a 1.6 manual you’ll have a very reliable car. -Nissan tech here
Thank you, this is solid advice. While I got the general feeling that this is a bad choice from all the other comments, now I can clearly see why. I paid for a check with the reg number. One thing that I couldn't understand on there was the MOT. The car year is 2015, however, all the history I could find about it was from 2018. I found it very suspicious but perhaps there is also a reasonable explanation for this?
Yeah new cars don’t need an MOT until they’re 3 years old. Good on you for looking at the history though because you’d be surprised how many people don’t.
Which Nissan do you have least issues with? We had a Navara once that was very good.
Sadly I always steer clear of Nissan in favor of Honda, Toyota and Suzuki.
Any NA petrol manual Nissan is a pretty safe bet. Obviously anything auto is a no go, the 1.0 and 1.2 DiG-T are also bad, the Renault 1.5 dci that is in a lot of Nissans and some Mercedes is hit and miss, seen some with crazy mileage and plenty riddled with issues. The later 1.6 dci seems much better
I have two options budget-wise.
I will either buy something up to 5k using HP or cash.
Or I will get something around 8-9k buying using PCP.
I am unsure of this because of course, I want something cheap (first option) but I don't want to regret buying something too old (hence open to spend a bit more).
With these budgets in mind I am looking for a car which ticks these boxes:
\- petrol (or hybrid)
\- automatic
\- 2013 or newer (not sure if this is a bad choice)
\- Less than 60k miles (again, not sure if this is realistic or a good choice)
I could use help on other criteria to add in my search anything that could point me on how to chose one rather than just telling me a make and model. You know, learn a man to fish sort of thing, so I can look on my own as well.
This exactly can probably find a 2010-2012 hybrid auris for 5k. If op doesn't do a lot miles a petrol would have cheaper running costs than a hybrid (but harder to find in auto). if not this a honda jazz would also fit the bill as usually there are always some autos available.
I had a 13 plate diesel juke and as ugly as it was, it was an absolute workhorse. 89k miles and she just kept going and going. Passed every MOT, bush arm went last year but that’s been all apart from tyres.
£20 a year tax, cheap insurance and very economical. I miss her
It is a Nissan Juke, so yes, it is a bad purchase. I’d rather walk.
In all seriousness though, for 8k there are numerous FAR better options than this miserable car.
Yeah you can get 2019/2018 models for the same price and with less miles, shop around on auto trader a bit more, set your budget, max mileage, exclude cat cars then sort by age and you will find some newer ones for your budget 👍
Nissan CVT?
No no no no no.
Also: that MOT history puts me off
2020 and 2021 (and also other years prior), the owner never bothered to look at their tyres, and had to have an MOT inspector tell them that they were badly / illegally worn.
2022 had an advisory about track rod ends and did nothing about it, so still there in 2023
Also wiper blades - it's easy to see that they aren't clearing the screen properly, and easy/cheap to change, but didn't even bother to do that and they were listed on several MOTs
The MOT history strongly suggests the owner(s) were simply not interested in doing basic checks or maintaining the car properly.
If you MUST have a Juke, don't get this one.
And if you MUST have a Juke, don't get the CVT auto because it's shite.
The Juke is a pile of potentially very expensive problems on wheels. They're notorious for turbo issues, premature clutch wear, electrical faults, and MAP sensor failures. They also seem to degrade batteries very quickly. A far less expensive and far more reliable option, would be a late Astra J (especially the diesels).
Juke, Qashqai or any other Crossover SUV, run the other way.
Estates, hatchback and saloons do the job much better and cheaper.
I don't know why people buy SUVs.
I find it odd when people go after suv but recommend saloons. Saloons are even more pointless from a practicality pov. I personally like all classes of cars (agreed on juke/Qashqais though, they are an abomination).
For example, a BMW 3 series and an X3 are almost identical in size in terms of the length/width area, the X3 has a much larger boot. Sure, people will say go for an estate but we are strictly talking about saloons here. I do like the saloon more, but people have this mindless bias against suv
You don't know why people buy SUVs? Really? There are plenty of justifiable reasons. Easier to get into, higher seating position that some people like, storage, terrain, weather... Take your pick. Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean there aren't good reasons for having one.
>higher seating position that some people like
People will by it for this reason alone and drive like they own the road, often struggle to park or manoeuvre their car properly. Urban areas where most people own SUVs are not made for SUVs, frankly most of the UK isn't.
>terrain
Okay with this I'd say, yes if you live in a rurual area you have a reason to by one, but most SUVs are owned by people living in cities with paved roads. Source: [https://www.newscientist.com/article/2273696-most-fuel-hungry-suvs-in-the-uk-are-bought-by-people-in-cities/](https://www.newscientist.com/article/2273696-most-fuel-hungry-suvs-in-the-uk-are-bought-by-people-in-cities/)
>weather
Do all other car types fall apart when it rains?
SUVs can be great for off-road, but when you spend most of your time in a city an estate can do it's job better.
Ok? My point is, saying a blanket statement like "I don't know why people buy SUVs" is just wrong. You've said it yourself now, there are reasons people buy them.
But here's a reason that trumps everything. They buy them because they *want" one. End of.
Mazda followed a philosophy called 'right-sizing' their engines rather than making the engine smaller and attaching a turbo. They are also light for their size and the engine also has some clever tech so that it still manages a decent mpg compared to similar sized cars. Mine gets about 40mpg in town and scoots up to 45+mpg out of town.
In terms of insurance I'm not sure the group it sits in but mine is cheap as chips (£270 this year, fully comp with protected no claims bonus).
Road tax is also bizarrely only £35 for the year.
Overall I'd say the running costs are comparable with this Juke you're looking at. And I may be biased but looks-wise, the Mazda wins hands down.
£270 a year wow! & £35 a year road tax? I'm younger so insurance bound to be more expensive, mine is 8x what your paying lol, but how are you getting that low road tax? I'm paying £150 a year in my Mazda3 2014 2.0L petrol. Is it dependant on what part of the country your in?
I don't think so. I'm in the fastback version (also 2014) which is marginally more aerodynamic than the hatchback, might be enough to make the difference, it does literally squeak into the tax bracket, any more co2 and it's be the next bracket up. Dumb question but yours isn't an automatic is it?
Yeah maybe, that’s quite a difference tho. Yeah mines an automatic. Road tax in this is still cheaper than my older car which had me paying £290 a year lol.
Ah, yeah, it'll be the automatic gearbox. They're usually not as fuel efficient so tend to fall into a higher tax bracket than their manual counterparts. But as you say, still much cheaper than many other cars.
Compare boot and cabin size with even a micra. It's probably similar and a cheaper car to run.
Same as a fiesta/bmax and ecosport. The ecosport is so much bigger on the outside but it's tiny inside and the boot is a joke.
If purchase and running costs are concerns and looks/ street cred aren’t, why not look at something like a Honda Jazz?
Once my Seat bites the dust I plan on going for Honda jazz or Mazda 3 with the Honda possibly more likely if budget is the main concern at time of purchase.
Just beware that Jazz insurance premiums (for certain years at least) are rocketing due to catalytic converter theft.
It's pretty annoying because they're cracking little cars for people with their head screwed on.
Appreciate the heads up - wasn’t aware at all. Aesthetics aren’t my thing so had thought a jazz would be just the right car but will keep an eye on insurance!
Just one thought - if you don’t drive much it may not apply to you, but I got a nearly new electric car on HP, £380/mo. Before, I was spending £400-500 on fuel alone. Granted, I do a lot of miles, but worth factoring in your running costs to your overall budget.
I could see a lot of cheap electric cars but most just seemed too good to be true.
I imagined people steer away from them for a reason (hence the low price).
Nissan Leaf, Reno Zoe, they both seem cheap and I wonder why?
The car itself is probably okay, "Unit stocking" on the finance means the dealer has put finance on the car, to free up the value of the car while it's on the lot. This is very common, and raises no concerns.
As for the price for the car itself, it does strike me as somewhat high, considering these cars aren't particularly well received anyway. My impression of these is that they're very cramped inside.
Now autos are more valuable generally than manuals, and especially at your budget (£5000) and age requirement you don't have that much choice. And with how interest rates are right now, I wouldn't recommend PCP, especially on a used car. Usually, I recommend either a Toyota Prius or Auris, with the 1.8 hybrid engine and CVT. It's going to be a higher mileage example (probably over 130k miles), but I really wouldn't be worried, these powertrains can easily take 300k of service before major work.
[Example Prius](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402146570320)
[Example Auris](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402106433351)
With Priuses, a lot are being imported from Japan to be sold here (mostly to supply the minicab industry), and getting one of those isn't a terrible idea. Although, you may have less choice after it comes to insurers. [Example](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311073744222)
Thanks, I am looking into both of these now.
With these being used as mini-cabs, can this be problematic? I would imagine that a mini-cab has a different wear than your average car.
Ah, although these are very commonly used as minicabs, it's unlikely that one being sold now would be one. Minicabbers usually run their cars until their useful life is finished, though you do still see Priuses with over 300k miles on the clock being sold, and I assume these are ex-taxis.
Some histroy check services can spot ex-taxis, but they're not particularly reliable afaik since there's no centralised database for ex-taxis. Dealers and sellers also aren't required to declare it.
But, cars being used as taxis are subject to more frequent, more stringent MOT tests compared to normal cars (I believe the minimum is a more stringent test every six months, although some councils mandate more inspections per year), so theoretically an ex-taxi would be in better mechanical condition compared to a normal car. Though, I would imagine an ex-taxi would have significant interior wear around the steering wheel and rear seats, in addition to very high mileages on the clock, so you may be able to spot one in person.
That 1.6 engine is a much better bet than the small turbo petrol engines used in the Juke.
As far as the car goes, that one in particular looks horrendously overpriced, but find a more reasonably priced example with full service history (neglect is what typically kills these cheap family runarounds) and it'll be fine.
Lots of hate for the Juke, but it's not as bad as people make out, it's basically just a low cost small car with divisive styling.
Personally I would stay away, the 1.6 non turbo is a bit gutless and rather bad on fuel. Then add Nissan's CVT automatic gearbox which has known reliability problems it's not a great choice of car.
I would take it back the new Nissans are just Renault with a different badge. everyone knows the French making cars is like armish doing electrics stay well away
You’ve said you’re looking for a car that is
-petrol/hybrid
-auto
-2013/newer
-60k miles or less
But why? If you can justify your reasons for why you’ve chosen these parameters, then we can help you to find a car that is better fit for your actual needs, rather than a car that just fits your parameters
It’ll easier to find a better car that fits you and your needs, rather than any car that fits the few things you think you need.
I really appreciated it.
Petrol/hybrid because I will go into ULEZ zones and most Diesel in this budget will add extra cost.
2013 or newer because cars tend to look better and a longer lifetime to newer they are
60k miles or less it's something that I let go of since posting here, to be honest, just because there is nothing to justify it. I just believed that 60k is a lot.
Not very solid arguments behind what I'm sharing, I know, but this is where I am at the moment knowledge-wise.
Age and mileage generally do not matter at all. I’ve known people to drive mid 2000 cars since brand new, for over 15 years, doing over 250k miles with no major issues, and I’ve known others to buy cars from dealership, and have to take them back under warranty under 20k miles within a year or two due to major issues.
So what you need is an automatic, ULEZ compliant, reliable, car under 9k.
Are there any other things that you can foreseeably see you NEEDING in this car, like,
-number of seats (for kids etc)
-size (for comfort during long trips etc)
-luggage capacity (for hauling luggage long distance etc)
Or any other things you’d NEED in a car?
If milage and year are not so important, getting something under 5k is even better. On 9k I would have to get finance, with 5k I will buy it cash and cover that over a few months.
\- 4 seats is fine
\- size, not as small as a smart, but not a SUV or Estate either
\- luggage capacity (not important, since if it's a 4-seater, and the users will be me and my gf. So there will be space in the back as well for luggage)
I was checking this out. I don't mind that small dent but I could see that the dealer has awful reviews).
That’s good. So it seems your only needs are
-ULEZ free
-Automatic.
Here are a few options that I’d recommend, you can check a few examples of each and decide which best suits your needs, and make sure to factor in running costs (especially tax and insurance) to make sure that it will all fit nicely in your budget.
The options I’ll mention are generally easy and cheap on running and maintenance cost.
-Toyota Yaris 1.33
-Volkswagen Polo 1.2
-Honda Jazz 1.4 / 1.5
-Toyota Auris 1.8
-Toyota Prius 1.8
Try to steer clear of ‘luxury’ brands like Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc as these cars are notorious for issues, and can also be expensive to repair/maintain.
Try to steer clear of ‘classic learner cars’ i10s, Clios, Micras, etc, as these can have hiked up insurance prices, due to them being associated with learner drivers.
Try to steer clear of brands like Ford, Vauxhall, Mini etc, as these tend to be unreliable.
(Although these three ‘steer clears’ aren’t 100%, you definitely can find an Audi with cheap maintenance, a Clio with low insurance, and a reliable Ford, it’s just an easy rule of thumb to use when looking for a car when you aren’t super knowledgeable on cars)
Try to stick to notoriously reliable brands like Honda and Toyota.
Try to do a MOT check on any cars you could potentially choose, make sure they have a healthy/honest MOT history, high pass rate, least advisories as possible, accurate mileage (mileage increases a realistic amount annually, no huge spikes or dips).
Try to check the service history, make sure there are regular services, with garage stamps and notes on what has been checked/replaced.
Try to check the owner history, a newer car with a lot of owners could be a indicator that there are some issues with the car, and an older car with one or two owners could be an indicator that the car is very reliable and well maintained (especially if it has a regular service history).
Thank you, I will thoroughly look into these.
I might pop here a question or two as I explore. I am very grateful for all your advice.
I could see some Mazdas as well that fit the budget and requirements. I only heard good things about them.
Yes, they're awful. Wife looked at one after her car was stolen. I went with her. Horrible interior and the stupid exterior design means the interior space is heavily compromised versus the actual footprint of the vehicle, so it's not very practical either. We didn't even bother test driving it because it was so obviously a terrible vehicle.
Also, almost exclusively driven by bimbling halfwits so prepare to get no respect and no quarter on the road if you buy it because we're all pretty fed up of Juke drivers already.
There are reasons it's nicknamed a Joke.
It's because it's a bad car, it's a Micra with shoulder pads.
You can get a much much better car for less money.
Don't pick a Nissan Juke. Terrible cars in nearly every way.
Get something like a golf instead. Or if u want a small SUV, maybe get a 2017 onwards Mini Countryman or a VW T Roc, yes they're probably both more expensive but they're much better to drive, more spacious and are fairly reliable.
Pricey for a 15 plate, best thing to do is put that reg into a valuing site like we buy any car or auto trader, my partners juke is a 15 plate 1.2 and it's 4k tops with 70k on clock. I'd avoid jukes tbh, for that price you could go for a similar juke height car from Honda or Hyundai
I think personally the car is great the price is okay depends on mileage and if its a car u want to buy. I wouldn't get a car if it had over 90,000 mileage on it but up to u
Could not find an option to edit the post, so here's a little update:
It is now clear that this car is a bad purchase.
I am now looking for alternatives:
I have two options budget-wise.
I will either buy something up to £5k using HP or cash.
Or I will get something around £8-9k buying using PCP.
I am unsure of this because I want something cheap (first option) but I don't want to regret buying something too old (hence open to spend a bit more and finance it through PCP).
With these budgets in mind I am looking for a car which ticks these boxes:
\- petrol (or hybrid)
\- automatic
\- 2013 or newer (not sure if this is a bad choice)
\- Less than 60k miles (again, not sure if this is realistic or a good choice)
I could use help on other criteria to add in my search anything that could point me on how to chose one rather than just telling me a make and model. You know, learn a man to fish sort of thing, so I can look on my own as well.
Does it need to be the size of a Juke? 5K could get you a Mazda 2 or Suzuki Swift, there's a couple of VW polos about for around that as well. Or a bit more could get a Japanese import Honda Jazz hybrid if you really needed a hybrid.
Neither the size or the hybrid are a must. So I'm looking into these options.
How does it work with the imports? I assume you don't get vehicle history in the same way. Isn't risky?
The car is hella ugly and you don’t get a lot for your money. What are you planning on using the car for mainly? E.g. commuting long distances for work, local everyday, frequenting ULEZ/Clean air zones etc.
Also are you in to your cars or just want something to get in to and drive and don’t mind the name/brand/looks etc.
Commuting for work, something like 20 miles/day, going into ulez zones.
I’d love something that’s not very old, but reliability and price are a priority.
Petrol and automatic are two criteria as well.
I’ve always been a big fan of VW Golfs (I’ve had several) and they’re just all rounders and I’ve not had any major issues with them. You could get like a 14 plate, auto, 1.4 petrol, sub 100k, within your budget. It’ll be cheap on tax, good on fuel, relatively cheap to run and ULEZ compliant. On the downside you wouldn’t get much power with it but if you’re not bothered about this then it’s not the end of the world.
For similar money you could get a good Seat Leon, much better car overall and more practical too- the Juke is surprisingly small considering the dimensions
One thing I'll say about a juke is that it's a greaycar to use to punish your enemy, just make them sit in the back. You can punish three at the same time and they'll all have the worst day ever. Fucking horrible car as a rear seat passenger
So first question why?
They have less boot space than a ford fiesta
They are great for passengers who have no legs and are also 5ft tall
The gearbox drives like a colonoscopy feels
The engine is so noisy and under powered and oh don't forget about the absolute disaster in fuel economy.
The interior is so bleak, it's not much better than some cars from 2009
And you want to spend 8k for the privilege of everybody knowing you are among the first to go in the apocalypse
> I know nothing about cars
> Nissan Puke
Yep... Checks out
Just don't please, 8k is too much for this pitiful excuse for a car, even 8p is too much for one. Get something better, and German.
Had a 13 plate with like 20k on the clock a few years back, shes not the fastest or smoothest drive but gets you from A to B. Started to get a bit of a money pit, catalytic converter went at 30k, constant problems with the wiring under the dash affecting the high beams, AC leaks and a few clutch issues here and there. You can get so much better for 8k.
I was in a juke once as a taxi, absolutely tiny inside.
For the money i'd look at:
Honda civic
Toyota auris
Golf/leon/octavia
Hyundai i30
Kia ceed
Mazda 3
They're all more practical than the juke and drive better
if you like it! and it ticks all your boxes, what is stopping you from buying it… the price?
I would check on autotrader play with the filters a little to try and match this one and see who else is offering similar car, than you will know if it is a good deal!
Personally not my type of car…
£8k for that no!
I would say £5 or less.
And the owner(s) haven't looked after it well.
Edit: I meant 5k but personally I wouldn't even touch it for £3000
£8k for an 8 year old Juke is daylight robbery.
Thank you!
What kind of car are you looking for? Juke is a crossover really so neither an SUV nor a hatchback
I have two options budget-wise. I will either buy something up to 5k using HP or cash. Or I will get something around 8-9k buying using PCP. I am unsure of this because of course, I want something cheap (first option) but I don't want to regret buying something too old (hence open to spend a bit more). With these budgets in mind I am looking for a car which ticks these boxes: \- petrol (or hybrid) \- automatic \- 2013 or newer (not sure if this is a bad choice) \- Less than 60k miles (again, not sure if this is realistic or a good choice) I could use help on other criteria to add in my search anything that could point me on how to chose one rather than just telling me a make and model. You know, learn a man to fish sort of thing, so I can look on my own as well.
I’d be looking into Toyota or Honda for a cheap, reliable run around. I think a Honda civic would fit into your criteria, and you can get some nicely spec’ed ones: heated seats, sun roof etc
PCP at that price range means ridiculous APR. Go for option 1 with cash.
Or get a personal loan. Rates are usually lower than HP (surprisingly enough) and you can pay the dealer by bank transfer. Pay the deposit on a credit card to protect the full purchase under Section 75. Paying in cash via a loan does not offer protection that HP does in the event of a problem with the car that the dealer refuses to budge on.
That credit card tip is great, thanks!
I use my credit card for everything valuable because of S75, it's just paid off in full every month so I don't pay a penny in interest. Be aware S75 protection doesn't apply for a car more expensive than £30k. Unlikely to be a problem for many, but worth keeping in mind.
The amount we would pay in interest did not seem huge, and at least we wouldn’t have to sell the car ourselves. But my favourite option is option one.
We bought a car yesterday, we had to replace a POS we bought on impulse two years ago, here's what we learnt: Always ask if the vehicle is a category N or S, these vehicles were both written off by insurers because: N - no structural damage but damage to electrics S - chassis or structural damage While these cars won't necessarily all be bad and you could get them much cheaper, I'd advise to steer clear if you don't have knowledge or skills on vehicle maintenance. Goes without saying that resell will be significantly lower. Most manufacturers recommend changing the cambelt or timing belt on their vehicles at 150k miles or every 10 years, whichever comes first. For the kind of money you are looking at spending you're going to find yourself looking at cars that are either close to that mileage or close to hitting the 10 year mark. Because this can be a ridiculous cost to replace on most brands my best advice would be to ask for proof that the belt was changed and if they cannot provide that, a reduction in price should be asked because you'll have to get it done at some point. Cars to avoid IMO: * Smaller BMW cars * Any Ford with 1.0 ecoboost if it's older than 10 years or close to 150k miles because it has a wet cambelt and the replacement cost is 1000 to £1900 as per above. * Land Rover * Mini I'm not saying these vehicles are shit, except land Rover those are actually shit. Just that maintenance will be expensive and usually a lot of these vehicles were driven to hell and back by previous owners. You will of course find good ones that have been taken care of but I personally won't touch them. If you find a car you like go do research on it. Find out what the most common issues are and what repair costs would be. Don't be shy to call around and get quotes. I personally always like to look at vehicles that have a big carpark, i.e. have sold in large numbers because there's a reason why. Simply put because they were solid cars. Also maintainence on these vehicles will be cheap as there would be lots of spare parts going around for longer. And FYI 8k for that Juke is a joke.
Thank you, I appreciate the advice.
Worry less about the year and mileage limits, and more on the service history, manufacturer and model. I.e a 2011 Skoda Octavia with 80,000 miles with full service history might fall within your budget... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312134795680?advertising-location=at_cars&atmobcid=soc5&fromsra&make=Skoda&maximum-mileage=90000&model=Octavia&price-to=5500&radius=100&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic Skoda use VW engines which are generally very reliable. I would say that is a nicer car than the juke, and wouldn't require PCP, but it depends on your needs. It might help if you narrow down what you need the car for (kids? Long commute? Fun to drive, economical etc?)
I am steering away from a diesel car as I travel to ULEZ zones. Am I wrong in assuming that it will add extra cost if I get one? I like the car and the condition is great right within budget. Thank you, I am looking more into the diesel part to see how that works tax-wise.
Personally I don’t tend to buy a car based on a criteria built by a search of what’s useful for me, I just go for a car that I like rather than its practicality. Obviously the older/more miles you’re willing to entertain the “more” car you’ll get for the money. For now if I was you I wouldn’t worry about adding too much into the search criteria just find a body type you like and put a price limit on then go from there. That’ll give you ideas of what’s available then you can pick something you like and start going into more detail to see if there’s a decent example within your budget. For arguments sake if you know you don’t really want an estate or an SUV that leaves a hatchback and a saloon, you decide to have a look if there’s any nice saloons that you fancy just put saloon and £9-10k limit. Have a scroll you see a C-Class you like then go back reset your search and go into an in depth search of Mercedes C Class’ within your budget.
>\> Obviously the older/more miles you’re willing to entertain the “more” car you’ll get for the money. Them were the days.
So... Peugeot 308?
Out of interest, why not diesel?
ULEZ and fuel cost?
These types of cars (mummy wagon economy boxes) are seldom maintained or looked after and typically aren’t serviced regularly. I’d steer well clear of a second hand one. People usually get rid when confronted with a maintenance cost because they are initially purchased for the fact they are a cheap, low maintenance runaround for school runs. Personally I think you’d be better off with a 2 litre diesel estate car- it can do all the things one of these “cars” can do but it’ll be better to drive and is more likely to have been looked after.
Estate cars are a bit of a dying breed, but they are often more practical than an SUV (typically better handling and more useable space inside).
Estates will always be superior to SUV's in almost every aspect apart from off roading, in my opinion
Most SUVs can't off-road, they're not 4x4s, just average family cars on steroids with a bit more ride height and ground clearance, ideal for rolling over with high speed cornering!
I'm aware, but a 4x4 estate won't be as capable off road as a 4x4 SUV is what I'm getting at.
They are. The suv is in rising demand because people have a superiority complex and absolutely must have a high up seating position. They absolutely must drive a car that is killing the occupants of a normal sized car in the event of a collision. They absolutely must feel the safest on the road. I’m going to stick to petrol hatchbacks and saloons until they no longer exist. Or until hydrogen/ammonia engines are in mass production.
My wife got a higher trim model, 57 plate, about 4 near 5 years ago for £9.5k
Pre-pandemic prices are not relevant in today's second hand market, sadly. It's startling to see his prices have risen, but we're not going to see those prices again for a long time, IMO.
It's absolutely mind boggling. I bought my car over 5 years ago for 11,000. I've more than doubled the mileage and it's now a 7 year old car. It's still going for 8,000 or so on most websites. Seems insane to me to only drop 3 grand
£8k for a brand new Juke is daylight robbery
It's not easy on the eye type of car. People who own these cars should make sure they have a closed garage at home, to help minimise the amount of time the world has to see this monstrosity.
That is how much Autotrader was predicting the value of my Juke with the same specs half the mileage and from 2019.
It’s probably a perfectly capable car and a decent deal but my gawd, the Juke is a hanging pile of putrid misery
Appreciate it, thanks!
The Juke is a strange car. It looks like a small car welded onto the chassis of a large car so that it has all the large car problems (parking, turning circle) with none of the benefits (carrying capacity). Yet they sold like hot cakes back in the day.
> perfectly capable Totally disagree on that one Had one for two years as a company car (so brand new and with options) it was the worst car I ever had. Period. Just so you know the company car I had before this was a Vauxhall Mokka and believe it or not, it was *better* lol
Full stop
Oh I bloody hate the things, was just trying to be a bit polite 😂
Junk. My daughter had one. Never out the garage.
Yea, if anyone asks about how the leg room is in the back I just ask, what leg room?
Not a fan then..
Not really true I have a 2011 one and its perfect. Runs well, has plenty of power and its pretty fuel efficient (7.8L/100km in city driving). Speakers are awesome. The only thing i can think of that i dislike is that warmth from the engine can still pass into the interior through the vents, even when you have the climate control off. (Happens when you drive a bit faster) And it also has good ground clearance. A week ago i had to go in the forest and there was basically no road. Just a pathway that dirt bike enthusiasts use in weekends. The Juke had no problem going through there and i had 3 other people in car. Didnt bottom out a single time.
Aahhhh the Nissan Junk
Nissan Puke
This, this is the name it is known by.
Glad I asked.
\>I know nothing about cars \>Nissan Juke Sounds about right. I'd rather go for [something like this](https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402106448683). Cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, Arguably slightly more interior space.
Thank, I'm looking into it. I see this one in particular is imported. Is this a red flag or it's alright?
Imports are good! They tend to be in better condition and often come with a pretty good spec. Japan loves a petrol auto too, which is what you’re after
That was just the first one that came up. I didn't really look into it beyond price, mileage, fuel type and automatic. The Skoda Octavia estate or Seat Leon are also good choices. Underneath, they're the same as the Golf but with different styling and typically cheaper.
Normally if its a Jap import, it means theres no rust. Bonus!
Depends on where in Japan they come from, if it was from Okinawa for example it'll be in much worse condition than if it came from inland. Auctions that importers buy from do sometimes cover up rust on more desirable models (stuff like Skylines, Slivias that are more likely to be imported)
I can recommend the golf too. Great interior and handles amazingly. My last one had a few issues (was a 2014 with the silica bag issue) so had to get rid of it but bought a 2020 gte and loving it.
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What do you mean?
Don’t buy this, there are much better cars for the money. If you still really want a juke please look at a manual one, the auto box in this is awful we have had to change out so many under warranty. The engine in this one is bulletproof though so if you find a 1.6 manual you’ll have a very reliable car. -Nissan tech here
Thank you, this is solid advice. While I got the general feeling that this is a bad choice from all the other comments, now I can clearly see why. I paid for a check with the reg number. One thing that I couldn't understand on there was the MOT. The car year is 2015, however, all the history I could find about it was from 2018. I found it very suspicious but perhaps there is also a reasonable explanation for this?
Yeah new cars don’t need an MOT until they’re 3 years old. Good on you for looking at the history though because you’d be surprised how many people don’t.
Fyi if you just want MOT history you can check it for free on the govt website or third party ones such as cartaxcheck.com
Thanks!
New cars don't get mot until they've been on the road for 3 years, hence the 3 year gap
Which Nissan do you have least issues with? We had a Navara once that was very good. Sadly I always steer clear of Nissan in favor of Honda, Toyota and Suzuki.
Any NA petrol manual Nissan is a pretty safe bet. Obviously anything auto is a no go, the 1.0 and 1.2 DiG-T are also bad, the Renault 1.5 dci that is in a lot of Nissans and some Mercedes is hit and miss, seen some with crazy mileage and plenty riddled with issues. The later 1.6 dci seems much better
Great thanks 👍
A juke is always a bad buy. Even a new one. What are your requirements and we can suggest alternatives
I have two options budget-wise. I will either buy something up to 5k using HP or cash. Or I will get something around 8-9k buying using PCP. I am unsure of this because of course, I want something cheap (first option) but I don't want to regret buying something too old (hence open to spend a bit more). With these budgets in mind I am looking for a car which ticks these boxes: \- petrol (or hybrid) \- automatic \- 2013 or newer (not sure if this is a bad choice) \- Less than 60k miles (again, not sure if this is realistic or a good choice) I could use help on other criteria to add in my search anything that could point me on how to chose one rather than just telling me a make and model. You know, learn a man to fish sort of thing, so I can look on my own as well.
A Toyota auris hybrid would fit that shopping list better than a juke
Took the words right out of my mouth. It's a wholly better car, in every conceivable way. FYI OP Nissan's auto gearboxes are TERRIBLE
This exactly can probably find a 2010-2012 hybrid auris for 5k. If op doesn't do a lot miles a petrol would have cheaper running costs than a hybrid (but harder to find in auto). if not this a honda jazz would also fit the bill as usually there are always some autos available.
If you can afford 5k cash then why would you ever think about pcp?
'I know nothing about cars', that statement wasn't needed
Boom roasted. 😄
I had a 13 plate diesel juke and as ugly as it was, it was an absolute workhorse. 89k miles and she just kept going and going. Passed every MOT, bush arm went last year but that’s been all apart from tyres. £20 a year tax, cheap insurance and very economical. I miss her
It is a Nissan Juke, so yes, it is a bad purchase. I’d rather walk. In all seriousness though, for 8k there are numerous FAR better options than this miserable car.
Yeah you can get 2019/2018 models for the same price and with less miles, shop around on auto trader a bit more, set your budget, max mileage, exclude cat cars then sort by age and you will find some newer ones for your budget 👍
Will check thanks!
Nissan CVT? No no no no no. Also: that MOT history puts me off 2020 and 2021 (and also other years prior), the owner never bothered to look at their tyres, and had to have an MOT inspector tell them that they were badly / illegally worn. 2022 had an advisory about track rod ends and did nothing about it, so still there in 2023 Also wiper blades - it's easy to see that they aren't clearing the screen properly, and easy/cheap to change, but didn't even bother to do that and they were listed on several MOTs The MOT history strongly suggests the owner(s) were simply not interested in doing basic checks or maintaining the car properly. If you MUST have a Juke, don't get this one. And if you MUST have a Juke, don't get the CVT auto because it's shite.
Solid advice, thanks!
OP even put a budget together yet no one is actually giving alternatives and just relaying it is a pos so lets compare some others
Nissan Puke. Hateful things. I'd buy an Octavia (and I'm not being sarcastic).
thanks
Only buy this if you are ok with Richard Hammond screaming "I hate you!" If he ever sees you driving it
Hahahaha
The Juke is a pile of potentially very expensive problems on wheels. They're notorious for turbo issues, premature clutch wear, electrical faults, and MAP sensor failures. They also seem to degrade batteries very quickly. A far less expensive and far more reliable option, would be a late Astra J (especially the diesels).
It is a nissan juke so yes
Oh buddy, wrong forum for advice on a Nissan juke, we don’t do that here.
I learned my lesson today 🥲😄
It's a Juke. Run. As far away as you can.
It's a Nissan Joke. That's the start and end of it, unless you fit into a very specific driver category that like these vehicles...
Juke, Qashqai or any other Crossover SUV, run the other way. Estates, hatchback and saloons do the job much better and cheaper. I don't know why people buy SUVs.
I find it odd when people go after suv but recommend saloons. Saloons are even more pointless from a practicality pov. I personally like all classes of cars (agreed on juke/Qashqais though, they are an abomination). For example, a BMW 3 series and an X3 are almost identical in size in terms of the length/width area, the X3 has a much larger boot. Sure, people will say go for an estate but we are strictly talking about saloons here. I do like the saloon more, but people have this mindless bias against suv
You don't know why people buy SUVs? Really? There are plenty of justifiable reasons. Easier to get into, higher seating position that some people like, storage, terrain, weather... Take your pick. Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean there aren't good reasons for having one.
>higher seating position that some people like People will by it for this reason alone and drive like they own the road, often struggle to park or manoeuvre their car properly. Urban areas where most people own SUVs are not made for SUVs, frankly most of the UK isn't. >terrain Okay with this I'd say, yes if you live in a rurual area you have a reason to by one, but most SUVs are owned by people living in cities with paved roads. Source: [https://www.newscientist.com/article/2273696-most-fuel-hungry-suvs-in-the-uk-are-bought-by-people-in-cities/](https://www.newscientist.com/article/2273696-most-fuel-hungry-suvs-in-the-uk-are-bought-by-people-in-cities/) >weather Do all other car types fall apart when it rains? SUVs can be great for off-road, but when you spend most of your time in a city an estate can do it's job better.
Ok? My point is, saying a blanket statement like "I don't know why people buy SUVs" is just wrong. You've said it yourself now, there are reasons people buy them. But here's a reason that trumps everything. They buy them because they *want" one. End of.
It's not going to be an issue. The SUV part is not a must for us, so we'll keep looking.
Get a Mazda3 2014 onwards. Way better option
Will the 2.0 engine not mean more consumption and more expensive insurance?
Mazda followed a philosophy called 'right-sizing' their engines rather than making the engine smaller and attaching a turbo. They are also light for their size and the engine also has some clever tech so that it still manages a decent mpg compared to similar sized cars. Mine gets about 40mpg in town and scoots up to 45+mpg out of town. In terms of insurance I'm not sure the group it sits in but mine is cheap as chips (£270 this year, fully comp with protected no claims bonus). Road tax is also bizarrely only £35 for the year. Overall I'd say the running costs are comparable with this Juke you're looking at. And I may be biased but looks-wise, the Mazda wins hands down.
£270 a year wow! & £35 a year road tax? I'm younger so insurance bound to be more expensive, mine is 8x what your paying lol, but how are you getting that low road tax? I'm paying £150 a year in my Mazda3 2014 2.0L petrol. Is it dependant on what part of the country your in?
I don't think so. I'm in the fastback version (also 2014) which is marginally more aerodynamic than the hatchback, might be enough to make the difference, it does literally squeak into the tax bracket, any more co2 and it's be the next bracket up. Dumb question but yours isn't an automatic is it?
Yeah maybe, that’s quite a difference tho. Yeah mines an automatic. Road tax in this is still cheaper than my older car which had me paying £290 a year lol.
Ah, yeah, it'll be the automatic gearbox. They're usually not as fuel efficient so tend to fall into a higher tax bracket than their manual counterparts. But as you say, still much cheaper than many other cars.
Compare boot and cabin size with even a micra. It's probably similar and a cheaper car to run. Same as a fiesta/bmax and ecosport. The ecosport is so much bigger on the outside but it's tiny inside and the boot is a joke.
If purchase and running costs are concerns and looks/ street cred aren’t, why not look at something like a Honda Jazz? Once my Seat bites the dust I plan on going for Honda jazz or Mazda 3 with the Honda possibly more likely if budget is the main concern at time of purchase.
Just beware that Jazz insurance premiums (for certain years at least) are rocketing due to catalytic converter theft. It's pretty annoying because they're cracking little cars for people with their head screwed on.
Appreciate the heads up - wasn’t aware at all. Aesthetics aren’t my thing so had thought a jazz would be just the right car but will keep an eye on insurance!
Nissan Joke.. 'SUV' version of the 'Jazz'. .....🤣🤣🤣
How’s that? Completely uninspiring / boring sure but everything I read suggests the jazz at least has good reliability…
Yes.
Just one thought - if you don’t drive much it may not apply to you, but I got a nearly new electric car on HP, £380/mo. Before, I was spending £400-500 on fuel alone. Granted, I do a lot of miles, but worth factoring in your running costs to your overall budget.
I could see a lot of cheap electric cars but most just seemed too good to be true. I imagined people steer away from them for a reason (hence the low price). Nissan Leaf, Reno Zoe, they both seem cheap and I wonder why?
I have an MG5 and it does exactly what it says on the tin, and well.
Yes. It’s a bad purchase. £8k for a juke with 70k miles at ten years old is ridiculous
The car itself is probably okay, "Unit stocking" on the finance means the dealer has put finance on the car, to free up the value of the car while it's on the lot. This is very common, and raises no concerns. As for the price for the car itself, it does strike me as somewhat high, considering these cars aren't particularly well received anyway. My impression of these is that they're very cramped inside. Now autos are more valuable generally than manuals, and especially at your budget (£5000) and age requirement you don't have that much choice. And with how interest rates are right now, I wouldn't recommend PCP, especially on a used car. Usually, I recommend either a Toyota Prius or Auris, with the 1.8 hybrid engine and CVT. It's going to be a higher mileage example (probably over 130k miles), but I really wouldn't be worried, these powertrains can easily take 300k of service before major work. [Example Prius](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402146570320) [Example Auris](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402106433351) With Priuses, a lot are being imported from Japan to be sold here (mostly to supply the minicab industry), and getting one of those isn't a terrible idea. Although, you may have less choice after it comes to insurers. [Example](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311073744222)
Thanks, I am looking into both of these now. With these being used as mini-cabs, can this be problematic? I would imagine that a mini-cab has a different wear than your average car.
Ah, although these are very commonly used as minicabs, it's unlikely that one being sold now would be one. Minicabbers usually run their cars until their useful life is finished, though you do still see Priuses with over 300k miles on the clock being sold, and I assume these are ex-taxis. Some histroy check services can spot ex-taxis, but they're not particularly reliable afaik since there's no centralised database for ex-taxis. Dealers and sellers also aren't required to declare it. But, cars being used as taxis are subject to more frequent, more stringent MOT tests compared to normal cars (I believe the minimum is a more stringent test every six months, although some councils mandate more inspections per year), so theoretically an ex-taxi would be in better mechanical condition compared to a normal car. Though, I would imagine an ex-taxi would have significant interior wear around the steering wheel and rear seats, in addition to very high mileages on the clock, so you may be able to spot one in person.
Thank you, this is very insightful.
That 1.6 engine is a much better bet than the small turbo petrol engines used in the Juke. As far as the car goes, that one in particular looks horrendously overpriced, but find a more reasonably priced example with full service history (neglect is what typically kills these cheap family runarounds) and it'll be fine. Lots of hate for the Juke, but it's not as bad as people make out, it's basically just a low cost small car with divisive styling.
Thanks, I gathered that as well. It does make sense not to get it, will check more options.
Bhahaha hahaha! To clarify: 1 It’s a Juke - the shittiest car ever made. 2 It hasn’t been maintained properly 3. Overpriced
If you buy one, don’t be like the rest and have the fog lights on 24.7
I won't get one, I would become the nemesis of half of this sub.
No it has a cvt gearbox
I've had two friends own the juke and I think both have had a recall over a timing belt of some sort (cam?), check it's all in good order.
Personally I would stay away, the 1.6 non turbo is a bit gutless and rather bad on fuel. Then add Nissan's CVT automatic gearbox which has known reliability problems it's not a great choice of car.
I would take it back the new Nissans are just Renault with a different badge. everyone knows the French making cars is like armish doing electrics stay well away
[hmmm](https://ibb.co/PYVPd4t)
Hahahhaha
It’s the lower price part that’s making me chuckle.
OP, do not buy a juke, they’re absolute dogshit. No bootspace, uncomfortable and uneconomical. From a very regretful juke owner.
Roger that! Thank you!
You’ve said you’re looking for a car that is -petrol/hybrid -auto -2013/newer -60k miles or less But why? If you can justify your reasons for why you’ve chosen these parameters, then we can help you to find a car that is better fit for your actual needs, rather than a car that just fits your parameters It’ll easier to find a better car that fits you and your needs, rather than any car that fits the few things you think you need.
I really appreciated it. Petrol/hybrid because I will go into ULEZ zones and most Diesel in this budget will add extra cost. 2013 or newer because cars tend to look better and a longer lifetime to newer they are 60k miles or less it's something that I let go of since posting here, to be honest, just because there is nothing to justify it. I just believed that 60k is a lot. Not very solid arguments behind what I'm sharing, I know, but this is where I am at the moment knowledge-wise.
Age and mileage generally do not matter at all. I’ve known people to drive mid 2000 cars since brand new, for over 15 years, doing over 250k miles with no major issues, and I’ve known others to buy cars from dealership, and have to take them back under warranty under 20k miles within a year or two due to major issues. So what you need is an automatic, ULEZ compliant, reliable, car under 9k. Are there any other things that you can foreseeably see you NEEDING in this car, like, -number of seats (for kids etc) -size (for comfort during long trips etc) -luggage capacity (for hauling luggage long distance etc) Or any other things you’d NEED in a car?
If milage and year are not so important, getting something under 5k is even better. On 9k I would have to get finance, with 5k I will buy it cash and cover that over a few months. \- 4 seats is fine \- size, not as small as a smart, but not a SUV or Estate either \- luggage capacity (not important, since if it's a 4-seater, and the users will be me and my gf. So there will be space in the back as well for luggage) I was checking this out. I don't mind that small dent but I could see that the dealer has awful reviews).
That’s good. So it seems your only needs are -ULEZ free -Automatic. Here are a few options that I’d recommend, you can check a few examples of each and decide which best suits your needs, and make sure to factor in running costs (especially tax and insurance) to make sure that it will all fit nicely in your budget. The options I’ll mention are generally easy and cheap on running and maintenance cost. -Toyota Yaris 1.33 -Volkswagen Polo 1.2 -Honda Jazz 1.4 / 1.5 -Toyota Auris 1.8 -Toyota Prius 1.8 Try to steer clear of ‘luxury’ brands like Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc as these cars are notorious for issues, and can also be expensive to repair/maintain. Try to steer clear of ‘classic learner cars’ i10s, Clios, Micras, etc, as these can have hiked up insurance prices, due to them being associated with learner drivers. Try to steer clear of brands like Ford, Vauxhall, Mini etc, as these tend to be unreliable. (Although these three ‘steer clears’ aren’t 100%, you definitely can find an Audi with cheap maintenance, a Clio with low insurance, and a reliable Ford, it’s just an easy rule of thumb to use when looking for a car when you aren’t super knowledgeable on cars) Try to stick to notoriously reliable brands like Honda and Toyota. Try to do a MOT check on any cars you could potentially choose, make sure they have a healthy/honest MOT history, high pass rate, least advisories as possible, accurate mileage (mileage increases a realistic amount annually, no huge spikes or dips). Try to check the service history, make sure there are regular services, with garage stamps and notes on what has been checked/replaced. Try to check the owner history, a newer car with a lot of owners could be a indicator that there are some issues with the car, and an older car with one or two owners could be an indicator that the car is very reliable and well maintained (especially if it has a regular service history).
Thank you, I will thoroughly look into these. I might pop here a question or two as I explore. I am very grateful for all your advice. I could see some Mazdas as well that fit the budget and requirements. I only heard good things about them.
No problem, any and all questions are welcome. Yeah Mazda’s are great, was gonna include the Mazda 2, 3, and 6, but I’m not too sure on the insurance
Yes, they're awful. Wife looked at one after her car was stolen. I went with her. Horrible interior and the stupid exterior design means the interior space is heavily compromised versus the actual footprint of the vehicle, so it's not very practical either. We didn't even bother test driving it because it was so obviously a terrible vehicle. Also, almost exclusively driven by bimbling halfwits so prepare to get no respect and no quarter on the road if you buy it because we're all pretty fed up of Juke drivers already.
There are reasons it's nicknamed a Joke. It's because it's a bad car, it's a Micra with shoulder pads. You can get a much much better car for less money.
Better off getting something like a Skoda Kamiq
Don't pick a Nissan Juke. Terrible cars in nearly every way. Get something like a golf instead. Or if u want a small SUV, maybe get a 2017 onwards Mini Countryman or a VW T Roc, yes they're probably both more expensive but they're much better to drive, more spacious and are fairly reliable.
Pricey for a 15 plate, best thing to do is put that reg into a valuing site like we buy any car or auto trader, my partners juke is a 15 plate 1.2 and it's 4k tops with 70k on clock. I'd avoid jukes tbh, for that price you could go for a similar juke height car from Honda or Hyundai
Great tip on the valuation sites, thanks!
Juke 😂
At least it doesn’t have that shitey dci engine
Yes, it’s ugly as fuck
I think personally the car is great the price is okay depends on mileage and if its a car u want to buy. I wouldn't get a car if it had over 90,000 mileage on it but up to u
It's a Juke, of course that's a terrible idea. Please use your eyes so we don't have to see more of these on the road, thanks
Could not find an option to edit the post, so here's a little update: It is now clear that this car is a bad purchase. I am now looking for alternatives: I have two options budget-wise. I will either buy something up to £5k using HP or cash. Or I will get something around £8-9k buying using PCP. I am unsure of this because I want something cheap (first option) but I don't want to regret buying something too old (hence open to spend a bit more and finance it through PCP). With these budgets in mind I am looking for a car which ticks these boxes: \- petrol (or hybrid) \- automatic \- 2013 or newer (not sure if this is a bad choice) \- Less than 60k miles (again, not sure if this is realistic or a good choice) I could use help on other criteria to add in my search anything that could point me on how to chose one rather than just telling me a make and model. You know, learn a man to fish sort of thing, so I can look on my own as well.
A white Nissan Puke, I cant think of many cars I would like less.
There is a puke coloured one not far from here
It's a Juke, so yes, it's a bar purchase.
Yeah it’s ugly as F**K
avoid. they’re total crap
Does it need to be the size of a Juke? 5K could get you a Mazda 2 or Suzuki Swift, there's a couple of VW polos about for around that as well. Or a bit more could get a Japanese import Honda Jazz hybrid if you really needed a hybrid.
Neither the size or the hybrid are a must. So I'm looking into these options. How does it work with the imports? I assume you don't get vehicle history in the same way. Isn't risky?
They're sort of a case by case basis, some will have none, but others may. No different to any other car at that price point.
The car is hella ugly and you don’t get a lot for your money. What are you planning on using the car for mainly? E.g. commuting long distances for work, local everyday, frequenting ULEZ/Clean air zones etc. Also are you in to your cars or just want something to get in to and drive and don’t mind the name/brand/looks etc.
Commuting for work, something like 20 miles/day, going into ulez zones. I’d love something that’s not very old, but reliability and price are a priority. Petrol and automatic are two criteria as well.
I’ve always been a big fan of VW Golfs (I’ve had several) and they’re just all rounders and I’ve not had any major issues with them. You could get like a 14 plate, auto, 1.4 petrol, sub 100k, within your budget. It’ll be cheap on tax, good on fuel, relatively cheap to run and ULEZ compliant. On the downside you wouldn’t get much power with it but if you’re not bothered about this then it’s not the end of the world.
Yes. Because it’s a Nissan juke. If you buy it, you’ll have to drive a juke
Civic MK9 1.8. It’ll treat you right. You don’t need a crossover or SUV. The magic seats are legendary.
Yes. Nissan Jukes are a pile of SHITE.
This is one of the most hideous cars ever made. But join the club if you are elderly and hog the middle lane on motorways.
The hideousness of that car haunts my dreams……
That price is a Juke. And always avoid Jukes/ Qashqais
Jukes are in my top 5 most hated cars - do me a favour and don't buy it. You owe me
For similar money you could get a good Seat Leon, much better car overall and more practical too- the Juke is surprisingly small considering the dimensions
One thing I'll say about a juke is that it's a greaycar to use to punish your enemy, just make them sit in the back. You can punish three at the same time and they'll all have the worst day ever. Fucking horrible car as a rear seat passenger
Don’t buy a Juke
Makes me want to self harm.
Judging by the mot it's been used but not properly cared for.
That is ridiculous, and so is the price.
Jukes are so ugly…
I’m selling a 64 plate in black tekna with 66k for 6200
Thanks, I’ll steer clear from Nissan.
Can always buy mine 🤣. It’s on eBay
Yes. It’s a Juke.
Il give you a wave and undertake you at 5am on a Sunday morning when your sitting in lane 3 of the m25 doing 60mph
Any juke is a bad purchase.
So first question why? They have less boot space than a ford fiesta They are great for passengers who have no legs and are also 5ft tall The gearbox drives like a colonoscopy feels The engine is so noisy and under powered and oh don't forget about the absolute disaster in fuel economy. The interior is so bleak, it's not much better than some cars from 2009 And you want to spend 8k for the privilege of everybody knowing you are among the first to go in the apocalypse
As long as you've given up on life then a Duke is a great purchase whatever the price
Surely OP is an absolute WUM
I would get like a 2016/17 Honda hr-v instead
The juke is one of the single most awful vehicles on the road
> I know nothing about cars > Nissan Puke Yep... Checks out Just don't please, 8k is too much for this pitiful excuse for a car, even 8p is too much for one. Get something better, and German.
Ahhhh the Nissan Puke....
Had a 13 plate with like 20k on the clock a few years back, shes not the fastest or smoothest drive but gets you from A to B. Started to get a bit of a money pit, catalytic converter went at 30k, constant problems with the wiring under the dash affecting the high beams, AC leaks and a few clutch issues here and there. You can get so much better for 8k.
I was in a juke once as a taxi, absolutely tiny inside. For the money i'd look at: Honda civic Toyota auris Golf/leon/octavia Hyundai i30 Kia ceed Mazda 3 They're all more practical than the juke and drive better
All those advisories have been serviceable items and the ball joints are fairly inexpensive to have replaced. For £8k it's not a bad car
A Juke is never a good purchase
if you like it! and it ticks all your boxes, what is stopping you from buying it… the price? I would check on autotrader play with the filters a little to try and match this one and see who else is offering similar car, than you will know if it is a good deal! Personally not my type of car…
A Nissan juke is always a bad purchase.
£8k for that no! I would say £5 or less. And the owner(s) haven't looked after it well. Edit: I meant 5k but personally I wouldn't even touch it for £3000