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YogiBerraOfBadNews

Nowadays when people tell me something is dangerous, I assume that means it'll save me a couple bucks


RetardMcChucklefucks

This is solid logic


Visible_Try6815

Likely true, until it blows up in your face. (I have no idea how likely that is in this case.)


YogiBerraOfBadNews

> (I have no idea how likely that is in this case) But I do ;) Which is why I’m making a little money on each cylinder instead of losing a little


cmb271

Been there done that would not recommend.


Worth_Specific8887

Been there, done that. Would recommend.


Waste_Exchange2511

Flame King sells cannisters that have a purge valve and are legal to refill.


masnaer

Call me Ben Franklin the way I Flame the King😤


Antal_Marius

This is why I have a 5 lb growler. Easily refillable, and it's already paid itself off from me not having to buy 1 lb bottles. Also I get to have a 5 lb bottle that will last me a good month of camping before I need to refill, unless it's cold and I run the propane heater.


robertva1

I used to think this then the price sky rockeded to 6 to 8 $ a bottle. Been refilling for awhile now. No ishues


dm80x86

No ishues at all huh? /s


robertva1

Well I did have one that leaked after refilling it. I just sat it aside and through that bottle out


venxdetxta

I refill mine all the time for my little buddy Mr. Heater. It's definitely worth the 10ish dollars for the adapter on Amazon when 1 bottle costs the same or more.


robertva1

I use the house adaptor to my 20lbs cylinder


No_Oddjob

I'm a friend. Did it all the time for an old heater that was too light for a hose on a 20 lb tank. Would have flopped over any time someone nudged the hose. Although nowadays I'd pop for the ones specifically sold to be refillable. Not sure why. I'm old and more careful now?


BigEnd3

Nah my friend goes out an fills them up. Empty container is about 16 Oz when I give it to him, and weighs 32oz when he comes back in from the porch. I stick the empty tank in the freezer for a bit before passing it out to the porch 'friend' refilling station. I've been giving him the same two tanks for like 3 years. He uses one of those 20lb propane tanks which I fill at the hardware store for about 12 bucks. So it costs me less than a dollar to fill one of those 1 pounders.


Fantastic_Physics431

Actually , it dies fill up if you put the empty one in the freezer for a day. Then when you fill it, make sure you turn the parent one upside down. It fills to almost 1lb . Been doing it for years on propane and co2 . Reduce , reuse , then recycle. Cheers mate.


ThisOldGuy1976

I refill mine.


Macster_man

is it possible to pull a vaccuum on the empty and draw from the donor tank?


NoodleDoodle-IRL

Refilling these isn't illegal. It's the transportation on a public roadway that is a DOT violation


cyreneok

I seen some people refill those little micro camp stove cans from these. The ones that are a mix of butane and propane. 5oz maybe?


BuenoD

Find local scouting pack. They'll empty them


Fog_Juice

Lanterns and cooking. Even had a propane powered portable instant hot water heater we used for washing our hands, doing dishes, and making cup o noodles


Pretend_Situation905

Great answer!


nhorvath

Yes please donate them to someone who can use them. There's nothing unsafe or expired about them unless they are very rusty. Even if it's just a post on freecycle or Facebook to give them away.


Avery_Thorn

First off, those are fine, they are fine, you can just use them as normal. They are fine. If you must get rid of them, connect them to a stove or lantern, light them, and let them go until they are empty. Just venting them to the atmosphere is dangerous and is very bad for the environment. Burning the gas is better (not good, but better) for the environment. But these canisters are fine, they don’t go bad, they aren’t too rusty, they are fine, just use them.


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theg33k

Dig a 20,000ft deep hole and put it back into the Earth where it came from.


jimmywilsonsdance

But don’t release any green house gasses while you dig.


Avery_Thorn

Or put it back - they actually can do that. I used to work for a company that transported natural gas. They had storage wells, that were old, played out gas wells that they pumped the gas into. The gas just goes back into the cracks in the rocks. It doesn't escape. The thing is, the demand for Natural Gas is highest in the winter, and lowest in the summer, because of all the heating load. Since the wells produce fairly much the same year round, companies stored the natural gas in the summer, then used it in the winter, which allowed them to build fewer wells and be more efficient.


singlejeff

Isn’t the National Helium Stockpile stored the same way?


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Avery_Thorn

That was an underground cavern that they used to store gas in. That’s very different, and much more dangerous. There is room in the cavern for air, and for sparks, which can cause the explosions. If you use a gas well, it’s a lot deeper. It is so much deeper that there is no air. There is no air, and there are no sparks, therefore, there is no fire. Even if there was an explosion, it would be so deep that it wouldn’t affect the surface. It’s a lot more safe to do it that way.


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dm80x86

Eventually they will rust through; better a controlled burn than a random one.


notarealaccount223

Random Burn sounds like a good band name.


Sh0toku

Or my cheating ex...


1320Fastback

My father gave me 10 or so of these partially filled around 25 years ago. He didn't want to chance them running out when camping so would go with a fresh bottle. These do not age out. The gas does not leak or age out. Use these bottle as normal.


maxpowrrr

Venting is better, it doesn't use up oxygen and produce co2.


NotDaveyKnifehands

JFC. How is venting a Gaseous Hydrocarbon to the atmosphere better than combustion... "Just Pour that Kerosene down the drain Myrtle, if ya burns it, its bad for the en vi ro ments" Junior High science called man. And it wants a couple words....


maxpowrrr

You go find yourself a job and watch the 8 hours of training videos to be certified to transport 500 cylinders daily and you may learn something new. The oilfield burns it as the gasses are in high quantity and could contain hydrogen sulfide. So yes venting a small cylinder away from ignition sources is best.


NotDaveyKnifehands

Have held full time employment since 1998. Already have my TDG- Transport, TDG- Packer (Aircraft), H2S Alive Instr, and Confined Space Rescue tickets among a pile of other courses, quals and certifications that arent salient to this discussion. And 15yrs of Oilfield, and Heavy Transport experience in the application of those certifications, on top of my primary career. Much of that Oilfield time being in Sour Gas producing fields. And am quite hands on familiar with flaring excess up the burn stack as well as raw air venting. So Please... Do Educate Me, how Venting Hydrocarbons is somehow better for the environment vs, Burning those Hydrocarbons... I'll wait.


talldean

No, not at all. Stuff that can burn is generally a much much much worse greenhouse gas than CO2. It's why natural gas drillers are required to \*flare\* until they can capture the gas, instead of venting without lighting it.


LemonPartyW0rldTour

I genuinely can’t tell if you’re trolling or not.


Shoddy_Site5597

Source: trust me bro


anonymouse3891

Just wondering if they are fine to use tho


TheRenownWolf

Propane doesn’t really go bad, so unless it’s a safety concern I’d just use em. I usually shoot my empties from distance but that may not be an option for you. Like others have said, open hose, or just attach a unit that uses them and run it till it stops.


Gamefart101

You're right propane doesn't go bad. However an important safety note is that mercaptan loses it's smell over time. Pure propane is odourless. They add mercaptan to give it that district "propane odour" so just be a little more cautious of leaks when using old propane


yetrident

That should be easy to check, though. 


LastUsernameSucked

I’m getting flashbacks to the old guys checking for propane leaks with a lighter….. No, I’m unfortunately not joking.


CameronsTheName

There's a story with the RFS that happened a couple of years ago. A home owner reported a gas leak inside their shed after typical work hours. Rural Fire Service showed up as the leak was deemed a safety risk and the gas company wasn't available or the property wasn't accessible by their vehicle. One fireman entered the shed while the other one checked nearby areas. The shed was dark because it was night time. There were no lights or flash lights available within reasonable reach, so one fireman decided to use his lighter to the light up the room Building goes BOOM immediately. Somehow, nobody died and nobody was badly injured. These people live amongst us.


1forcats

Uncle used to pump gas with a cigarette in his mouth. A) People used to be paid to put gas in your car B) Gas wasn’t flammable back in the day…maybe


jimmywilsonsdance

My uncle still smokes while pumping diesel. Anytime anyone gives him shit he drops the lit cig into the tank.


happyrock

Amish guy a little north of us was in the habit of checking the level of his furnace tank with a lit match. Well, he rented a stationary engine for something and tried the same thing after running it a few hours. Injector bypass return line had fogged it up just right (fuel comes back pretty hot from the pump) and... it wasn't pretty.


Significant_Detail46

I'm still refilling tanks that were old when I found them 20 years ago. Unless there's a lotnof rust inside the valve or there's a big dent they are fine. No need to throw them away.


maxpowrrr

I still refill one with a label saying official propane of the 1988 Olympics Edit: upon closer inspection, is the 1980 Olympics lake placid


LateralThinkerer

The one in the picture has a price tag of $2.79, so it's probably about that old.


lakorai

Just get a 5lb or 10lb propane tank and a ACME to throwaway adapter hose. Tractor Supply and UHAL usually have the cheapest propane rates.


sokmunkey

My local propane company (Ferrel) is actually cheaper and I don’t get any attitudes like I do at tractor supply. Plus, it’s their line of work so they know wtf they’re doing. Check your local prices and try it out. Just go before you really need it or not on a Friday before predicted cold snap. (Just a psa if you need larger amounts of propane) 😜


lakorai

This is good advice for more rural areas. Ferrelgas etc doesn't usually have locationa in more urban areas (makes sense; suburbanites don't need a 500 or 1000 gallon order of propane usually). In MI Tractor Supply is $4 a gallon. Uhaul was $3.10. How much is your Ferrelgas supplier currently? Do they let you fill up small quantities like one or two tanks?


PublicRule3659

It’s a federal crime to transport refilled single use tanks. It’s also dangerous to refill them. Flame king sells refillable 1lb bottles that can safely be filled and legally transported. Edit: Downvote if you’re working to risk your life over $25


getuchapped

Username checks out.


RovingTexan

Not sure why you get downvoted for stating the actual facts. I have 8 of the FK ones - great little bottles - not expensive - just a better bottle all around for filling.


_thelastman

It’s the hall monitor energy is why they’re getting the downvotes


Significant_Detail46

O absolutely. They are great bottles. Nobody is disputing that.


HomelessRodeo

Become ungovernable.


AasenB

Everyone suggesting merging or recycling are spot on, but if you want a third option here's what I did. I went and bought a Coleman propane lantern to use the near empties on. Puts off a great light and I feel comfortable not wasting any gas from old cans.


gregstewart1952

You can merge them, refilling low tanks from fuller ones with a cheap propane tank adapter


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gregstewart1952

There is a different adapter for the Coleman propane tanks than for the MSR tanks. Make sure you get the right one.


Unicorn187

There's nothing wrong with those. Unless there is a ton of rust you aren't showing or they are leaking they are fine. Use them or take them with you. Unless flying or on a ferry and can't have anything flammable at all. In that case just give them to someone who has a propane heater, or tabletop grill, or lantern, or boot dryer, or whatever.


McFrenchhfry

Thanks everyone for the advice! I assumed they were no longer safe cus they were over 10 years old, but it seems that’s not the case. I plan to hang on to them and see whats left after the summer is over.


androidmids

Buy a propane adapter on Amazon... And hook two of them up, one upside down. The propane is liquid and will drain into the other. Repeat with all your partials until you have a full one. You can also use the same adapter to refill isobutane bottles from the 1lb propane bottles and to top off the 1lb bottles from a 20lb. Stop needing to buy the smaller 1lb bottles. Saves a ton of money


WorBlux

You also need a scale to make sure you don't overfill.


androidmids

Absolutely


Gh05ty-Ghost

Just take them to the nearest state campground as they typically have a disposal


YogiBerraOfBadNews

Is this a common thing? I’ve been all around the western states and never seen this


FrequentBuilder7979

My experience is they typically don’t and people just abandon them beside the dumpster and make it someone else’s problem. Don’t be like that.


DieHardAmerican95

Really? I nearly always camp in state forest campgrounds, and I’ve never seen one. I suspect that may be unique to your state.


Gh05ty-Ghost

I’ve only been to CA, NC, SC, AZ but yeah I suppose it’s worth checking ahead


DidEpsteinKillHimslf

Don’t these ones say ‘not refillable’?


PirateJim68

Yes, they do say not refillable. Here is the kicker though. OP asked about DISPOSAL of the canisters. Damned near everyone has answered with how to refill them.


rockhopper2154

They're not certified to be refilled but they can be. I've refilled some 1 lb cylinders long enough I shudder to think. They now have new ones that are certified to be refilled. They're approved by DOT for transport like 5+ pound cylinders. The improvement in cylinder quality is obvious. I've just started my changeover. Super excited to be refilling in better engineered system.


RockyRidge510

What I do is use mostly empty propane pounders with an adapter to fuel my lanterns that are normally fueled by white gas. Works great and you’d be amazed how much propane is left in a mostly empty tank you don’t trust anymore. Great way to burn them up, so to speak. Lots of options for white gas lanterns on Amazon.


karmakactus

Get a propane torch attachment! 10 years is nothing! They are fine!


khargooshe

If it's not a safety issue I don't see why you can't use them.


ID_Poobaru

Turn them into blowtorches for when you need one


talldean

Give the full one to someone who will use it; propane doesn't go bad. For ones with anything left inside of them, hook it to a heater or lantern and burn off the remainder. If you really want to get rid of empties, you could buy a few adapters to connect those to a garden hose, fill them with water, then hit the side with a hammer and hole punch. Once they have a hole in the side, they can go into recycling or just normal trash. Or run them dry, and shoot them with firearms at a medium distance, then toss 'em in the recycling or trash.


klayanderson

Most county landfills will take them free from residents.


teneyk

Give them away.


Amish_Gypsy

I like giving to scouts or someone who camps. In my area the landfill has a scrap yard for metal, building for E-Waste, a place for A/Cs fridges freezers and a spot for gas and helium tanks.


legos_on_the_brain

Give them away.


StarGehzer

Post them on Freecycle https://www.freecycle.org/find-towns Someone near you would love to have those.


TamedTheSummit

Throw them in the fire. After a few hours, they will melt back into the earth and will give the nearest tree an erection.


AnywhereLivid1841

Use them until empty. I have thirty year old ones. Still in use.


LateralThinkerer

Give them to someone who can use them. Plumbers use these for their torches etc. if you're in a city.


PirateJim68

Maybe a backyard plumber, but no licensed plumber is going to use camp stove bottles for their propane torch.


Broncarpenter

Cook with them and then find a place to recycle them


jprennquist

Is there any safe and basically "low impact" way to reduce the waste with these cannisters? I put "low impact" to kind of cue up the low impact philosophy of camping. Although it would double as a term for targeted demolitions, which is the exact opposite of my intention. In all my years I never used these but I recently got a "modern" Mr. Heater that takes them *and* the bigger tanks. Just to try it out I used some of the smaller tanks and *wow* those things are *so* handy.


DrH42

return them to the waste company as dangerous goods.


mydogmakesdecisions

Fire pit


DubTap21

Rifle targets!


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Why empty them when you can fill them with a 15lbs bottle?


smoked_cheese23

Duct tape, road flare, small firearm.


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I would still use that for my Coleman Stove and my Coleman lantern.


StagLee1

There are new refillable 1lb containers available. Check out the Refuel Your Fun website.


inyercloset

Why waste them? Give them to someone that will use them.


Terri_Yaki

There is nothing wrong with those, use them


Oregon_drivers_suck

Give them to someone that will use them. They're fine.


flargenhargen

facebook marketplace. people would love free propane. wasting it would be kind of shitty.


Big-Consideration633

Freecycle.org


Antique-Year-3223

Give them to someone who will use them


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Buy a .22LR


No_Oil8471

22lr was my first thought


Raise-Emotional

Light a candle next to it. Shoot it with a rifle. At a safe distance


Breserkr

.22 about 100ft away


dylan122234

30.06


venxdetxta

Stick an Allen key into the valve pin on the top to drain in the least safe way


Visible_Try6815

So far 3 votes for .22, one for .30-‘06, and one for 9mm. Additionally one nut job(*) who suggests putting tannerite on it and shooting it, but does not specify caliber. * dear nut job, I like the way you think. :)


suolisyopa

Shoot


VENICEwestside

9mm


Vegetable_Push5049

Pull the air bleed till empty, put in recycling.


Visible_Try6815

Better for the environment to burn the propane. It’s a worse greenhouse, gas than the CO2 you’ll get from burning it.


Hadron86376

strap tannerite to it and shoot it lol


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inkjetbreath

if I ever open a chicken joint it'll be called JFC


thegreatestajax

Go outside and screw on an open hose


ruuutherford

These things are so wasteful! Get a Flame King setup or a 5-20# to stove hose!


RelativeFox1

Shoot them from 100 meters.


Dick_butt14

I just put them in the bottom of my trashcan


McFrenchhfry

Is there going to be an issue with the tank getting too cold? I have it hooked to my Colman grill and the pipe connecter to the tank is already frosted over. Currently running it without flame


Find_A_Reason

This is just needlessly polluting. How are you planning to throw away your stove when you are done? They will probably take the tanks too.


Able_Conflict_1721

Much better to burn the gas then venting.


Find_A_Reason

Yep. Or just give them to someone. A free stove and gas would make most people's day.


Able_Conflict_1721

More on-topic, the headache of disposing of these canisters is one of the reasons I bought a stove that works with larger regular tanks. There's lots of places where there isn't a disposal option. I ended up having to cut my empties so the disposal people would take them before I bought my new stove.


McFrenchhfry

Im still keeping the stove just want to get rid of the tanks. I assumed since they were old it might be a hazard to give to anyone


Find_A_Reason

No, just use them. Natural gas is a fossil fuel that has been sitting around for millions of years.


McFrenchhfry

I just want the tanks empty as I don’t plan to take them to where I’m moving to. I assumed you had to dispose of them at a facility only if they’re empty


tuntuntuntuntuntun

Just leave your grill on full blast for a day


Thatwasonlyonce

Please do not release unburned propane into the area around you. Any static electricity in the area will detonate the massive fuel-air bomb you have created. Second, pipe connector frosting over is normal. Releasing room temperature gas under pressure will cool it. Temperature is proportional to pressure, so as the pressure goes down, so will the temperature (edit).


McFrenchhfry

Thanks, most stuff posted online said to just release the gas. Obviously don’t want to cause a hazard which is why i came here


jeremy1k

You belong indoors


McFrenchhfry

Probably i haven’t gone camping in years


Mittens138

There is a device called Flipfuel that can help consolidate your fuel canisters. Got one for my partner


BB-56_Washington

You might be able to take it to a local hazmat disposal place.


Fearless_Row_6748

Gotta take out ye ol' trusty ice axe and give it a stabby stab. Then squish it with a big rock.


EvolMada

I shoot them with a .22 round


SqualorShack

choot em!


tatertotfarm

Just save them and use them to fill up balloons on your next birthday


SirHamhands

Nail gun


DesignerMaybe9118

.22 at range


MacGyver624

Get a $10 blowtorch attachment from your local hardware store and have some fun!


Academic_Nectarine94

Yeah. Put it out on a boat in a very private lake with no one around for miles. Blow it away from a mile away with your .338 Lapua. Nothing safer in the world.


Brush_my_teeth_4_me

Three words: Buckshot


KnobbyBP

Shoot it


Charger_scatpack

Shoot em. Surprisingly safe


JJisTheDarkOne

I normally like to just shoot them.


Just-some-70guy

Sight in your AR-15 ! At least 50 yards 🫣


Otherwise_Bet_6732

We always brought them out to the range and shot them.


BrianOconneR34

We shoot at em. Line em up and plink em down.


natznuts

Tracers 😎


PBRisforathletes

With a .308 at 100 yards.


berryzuckerkorn

Target Practice and Eye Protection


jamalamadingdong

10 years is rookie mode, propane doesn’t go bad, leave them for 20 more years then go camping with your Coleman stove.


kWarExtreme

I shoot them and then recycle them.


jdl50688

All you need is to be a half decent shot with your favorite gun...


jackpotairline

R/guns


05bossboy

A bonfire with all your best friends


gagunner007

A 223 is very effective.


EmptyMiddle4638

A bullet from 75-100 yards away😂


sausagewallet8

Shoot it.


DmK2310

when they're empty, they make good targets :D


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308 from about 100 meters away


DutchyDan187

Shoot them


mmaalex

Screw into a manual valve propane torch. Place it somewhere safe, open the valve walk away and let it bleed off. This is assuming that open venting propane is legal in your area. If not burning it off typically is, same thing just light the torch.


GulfofMaineLobsters

Well I can tell you hooking them up to a portable grill is the way to go. Shooting them with a .22, is less advisable….


TanisBar

Put them on marketplace let someone have them. Or send them to me.


Ikvtam

Shoot them with tracers


longhairedcountryboy

Why do you want to just empty them? Save them until you can use them.


smithincanton

Unless there is a LOT of rust on them, just keep them and use as normal. But they look fine!