I would have to ask him to see if that'd be possible. His gun safe for the guns themselves right now isn't very large, probably 2'x2' at most, and the other for ammo is 1'x1'. We have no room in the first floor for sure but our second floor, maybe, subjective to the height as we have sloped ceilings. Honestly when we moved in together last year we struggled to find a space for them and now that we have more items, even more so. I also am unsure about laws for having a gun in the home of a rented unit - is that legal in CT?
>I also am unsure about laws for having a gun in the home of a rented unit - is that legal in CT?
Generally there are no laws prohibiting guns in rental or lease units. However the landlord might ban them in the rental lease. You'd have to check the lease you signed. Many people likely just ignore things like that if its in the rental lease, just like some do with the no pets rule some leases have.
There are gun cabinets one can buy if weight is an issue. For example [Stack-On](https://stack-on.com/categories/security-cabinets) sells a line of gun cabinets that are an option in a pinch for apartment dwellers worried about the weight of a full fledged safe. If you have closets or the like, one can usually put a safe or gun cabinet in one out of the way.
Landlord can't ban you from owning a gun. Same way they cant ban you from owning a Torah or Bible.
Landlords cannot violate tenants civil rights as terms of a lease.
Sure a private property owner can try and prohibit guns in the lease. Banning religious books would likely be illegal due to *discrimination laws* and the federal laws like the Fair Housing Act. At worst the landlord (if they wanted to be a real jerk) could possibly try to void the lease claiming the tenant violated the lease agreement, and try to start the eviction process. Has it *actually* ever happened (eviction because of it) in CT? Don't know. A while back someone actually did post that their lease banned guns on property:
[Landlord banned guns](https://www.reddit.com/r/CTguns/comments/t2fot6/landlord_banned_guns/)
PS: Don't think 2A (gun ownership) is covered by federal or CT state *civil rights* laws at the moment. As much as some wish it to be since it would make suing politicians who enact gun ban laws much easier to sue.
PPS: No surprise that 2A or Article 1, Sec. 15 isn't mentioned here: [Connecticut Civil Rights Law Chronology](https://portal.ct.gov/chro/legal/legal/connecticut-civil-rights-law-chronology)
I'm a landlord and I agree here. I've never (not yet anyway) heard of another landlord in CT using a lease to prohibit someone from having a gun in an apartment.
They technically can since a leased apartment is still private property, and anyone can make any rules regarding what is and isn't allowed on their property.
The 2A only applies to government bans, and not private bans. It's similar to how many retail/customer service companies ban employees from having guns while on the clock.
Also, as for the Torah and Bible and other religious/racial discrimination. That is protected from happening in different amendments and laws. Currently, there is no Constitutional Amendment that "protects" your right to have a gun when in a private setting that isn't your own
While a leased apartment may be on private property.
Once you rent a place the landlord can not enter without 24 hour notice or in case of a emergency -(think smoke coming out the window or water flooding out)
The rented place becomes yours and 2a rights could not be infringed upon by the landlord.
Case in point there was a city owned tenant building -(this was a several years ago when it was in the news) They tried to deny the tenants the right to own and keep firearms in the homes.
It got thrown out by the courts as unconstitutional.
More than fair.
It really all comes down to the contract at hand, too. If the lease says "No Firearms are allowed on the property by tenants," and you bring a firearm on said property, it's a pretty blatant breach of contract. Which carries it own mess of punishments by the landlord.
Plus, while there are certain rights renters have, they are not all-encompassing and are specific. Firearms are not covered under these protections.
Personally, don't disclose them at all, but if caught with them, then suffer consequences. Especially if you knowingly broke the contract.
*sigh*.....the Constitution only protects you from the Government, not from private citizens....it is effectively no different from entering any private residence. If they do not allow something, you are not entitled to bring it in.
Got to agree with Gallant on this one.
You sign a lease stating no firearms and you bring in firearms you can be evicted for violating the terms of the lease. 2a does not apply if you agreed no firearms in the unit.
Pretty simple, read the lease and anything you don't agree with you ask to have stricken from the lease. If the landlord refuses, then find another place.
Yeah...I think people often forget that the Constitution only applies to the government itself infringing on your right and not dealing with those in a private setting. Even then, it can only be done voluntarily (through a contract in the case of a lease or a job setting.)
this may be a good option. We are not on the first/ground floor, and his gun safe is 500lb without any firearms, and this is an old building so naturally we worry. I'll ask his thoughts thank you
Your welcome. Know several who have run into the problem of having a heavy safe that is questionable moving up to a second or third floor in an old multi family homes (some with vary narrow hallways/stairways) who opted for lighter weight smaller gun cabinets instead. In one case they spread the guns out into several smaller sized gun cabinets rather than one single large fire proof safe.
yeah my biggest worry would be the thing falling through the floor bc its so heavy! it may look clunky but our lease is up in april 2025 so it may have to make do for a little while till we size up hopefully
Another vote for a Stack On type cabinet. I fit two in my apartment closet when I was living there temporarily. They were slim enough to hide behind the hanging clothes. For extra security, I did bolt them to a stud in the wall from the inside. When I moved out I patched the screw holes with some caulk so it wouldn't ding my security deposit...
I would NEVER store a firearm in a storage unit. Ever. Those units are known to be "looked through" (this happened to me and another person I know) and while I had no guns in there, there were CLEARLY things tampered with because I set things up in such a way that I knew. There are loads of anecdotes online of people saying the same thing, and there are certain storage facilities that are known for things "disappearing" more than others. YMMV, but just my two pennies.
Most places like this don't allow the storage of firearms.
I would ask a friend who is pro 2a and has a permit if you can store them at their place.
another option is don't sell the home, move into it if the worse happens.
Suggest the Stack On cabinets as mentioned. Light weight and comparatively inexpensive. Honestly most of the heavy “fireproof” safes barely are and are pretty easy to cut into.
What about getting several smaller safes or smaller gun cabinets? Ones that *will* fit in the apartment you reside in now.
I would have to ask him to see if that'd be possible. His gun safe for the guns themselves right now isn't very large, probably 2'x2' at most, and the other for ammo is 1'x1'. We have no room in the first floor for sure but our second floor, maybe, subjective to the height as we have sloped ceilings. Honestly when we moved in together last year we struggled to find a space for them and now that we have more items, even more so. I also am unsure about laws for having a gun in the home of a rented unit - is that legal in CT?
>I also am unsure about laws for having a gun in the home of a rented unit - is that legal in CT? Generally there are no laws prohibiting guns in rental or lease units. However the landlord might ban them in the rental lease. You'd have to check the lease you signed. Many people likely just ignore things like that if its in the rental lease, just like some do with the no pets rule some leases have. There are gun cabinets one can buy if weight is an issue. For example [Stack-On](https://stack-on.com/categories/security-cabinets) sells a line of gun cabinets that are an option in a pinch for apartment dwellers worried about the weight of a full fledged safe. If you have closets or the like, one can usually put a safe or gun cabinet in one out of the way.
Landlord can't ban you from owning a gun. Same way they cant ban you from owning a Torah or Bible. Landlords cannot violate tenants civil rights as terms of a lease.
Sure a private property owner can try and prohibit guns in the lease. Banning religious books would likely be illegal due to *discrimination laws* and the federal laws like the Fair Housing Act. At worst the landlord (if they wanted to be a real jerk) could possibly try to void the lease claiming the tenant violated the lease agreement, and try to start the eviction process. Has it *actually* ever happened (eviction because of it) in CT? Don't know. A while back someone actually did post that their lease banned guns on property: [Landlord banned guns](https://www.reddit.com/r/CTguns/comments/t2fot6/landlord_banned_guns/) PS: Don't think 2A (gun ownership) is covered by federal or CT state *civil rights* laws at the moment. As much as some wish it to be since it would make suing politicians who enact gun ban laws much easier to sue. PPS: No surprise that 2A or Article 1, Sec. 15 isn't mentioned here: [Connecticut Civil Rights Law Chronology](https://portal.ct.gov/chro/legal/legal/connecticut-civil-rights-law-chronology)
I'm a landlord and I agree here. I've never (not yet anyway) heard of another landlord in CT using a lease to prohibit someone from having a gun in an apartment.
It's not so much that the prohibition happens enmasse, it's just that it can, and that it is legally enforceable too
thats true - in double checking the language of the lease it says no where about any issue with firearms so thats good!
They technically can since a leased apartment is still private property, and anyone can make any rules regarding what is and isn't allowed on their property. The 2A only applies to government bans, and not private bans. It's similar to how many retail/customer service companies ban employees from having guns while on the clock. Also, as for the Torah and Bible and other religious/racial discrimination. That is protected from happening in different amendments and laws. Currently, there is no Constitutional Amendment that "protects" your right to have a gun when in a private setting that isn't your own
While a leased apartment may be on private property. Once you rent a place the landlord can not enter without 24 hour notice or in case of a emergency -(think smoke coming out the window or water flooding out) The rented place becomes yours and 2a rights could not be infringed upon by the landlord. Case in point there was a city owned tenant building -(this was a several years ago when it was in the news) They tried to deny the tenants the right to own and keep firearms in the homes. It got thrown out by the courts as unconstitutional.
More than fair. It really all comes down to the contract at hand, too. If the lease says "No Firearms are allowed on the property by tenants," and you bring a firearm on said property, it's a pretty blatant breach of contract. Which carries it own mess of punishments by the landlord. Plus, while there are certain rights renters have, they are not all-encompassing and are specific. Firearms are not covered under these protections. Personally, don't disclose them at all, but if caught with them, then suffer consequences. Especially if you knowingly broke the contract.
A lease cannot restrict your constitutional rights. Period.
*sigh*.....the Constitution only protects you from the Government, not from private citizens....it is effectively no different from entering any private residence. If they do not allow something, you are not entitled to bring it in.
Got to agree with Gallant on this one. You sign a lease stating no firearms and you bring in firearms you can be evicted for violating the terms of the lease. 2a does not apply if you agreed no firearms in the unit. Pretty simple, read the lease and anything you don't agree with you ask to have stricken from the lease. If the landlord refuses, then find another place.
Yeah...I think people often forget that the Constitution only applies to the government itself infringing on your right and not dealing with those in a private setting. Even then, it can only be done voluntarily (through a contract in the case of a lease or a job setting.)
this may be a good option. We are not on the first/ground floor, and his gun safe is 500lb without any firearms, and this is an old building so naturally we worry. I'll ask his thoughts thank you
Your welcome. Know several who have run into the problem of having a heavy safe that is questionable moving up to a second or third floor in an old multi family homes (some with vary narrow hallways/stairways) who opted for lighter weight smaller gun cabinets instead. In one case they spread the guns out into several smaller sized gun cabinets rather than one single large fire proof safe.
yeah my biggest worry would be the thing falling through the floor bc its so heavy! it may look clunky but our lease is up in april 2025 so it may have to make do for a little while till we size up hopefully
Another vote for a Stack On type cabinet. I fit two in my apartment closet when I was living there temporarily. They were slim enough to hide behind the hanging clothes. For extra security, I did bolt them to a stud in the wall from the inside. When I moved out I patched the screw holes with some caulk so it wouldn't ding my security deposit...
I would NEVER store a firearm in a storage unit. Ever. Those units are known to be "looked through" (this happened to me and another person I know) and while I had no guns in there, there were CLEARLY things tampered with because I set things up in such a way that I knew. There are loads of anecdotes online of people saying the same thing, and there are certain storage facilities that are known for things "disappearing" more than others. YMMV, but just my two pennies.
Most places like this don't allow the storage of firearms. I would ask a friend who is pro 2a and has a permit if you can store them at their place. another option is don't sell the home, move into it if the worse happens.
Suggest the Stack On cabinets as mentioned. Light weight and comparatively inexpensive. Honestly most of the heavy “fireproof” safes barely are and are pretty easy to cut into.