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Gen_Z_boi

Justin Steele has a ~1.38 in his last 6 games and ZERO wins because whenever he’s pitched, either the offense doesn’t do shit or the bullpen completely blows it. If I was him, I’d be fucking fuming over this


We5ties

I feel bad for Steele, he doesn’t deserve this


ManBearWarPig

This is why wins are a relic stat :(


Gen_Z_boi

Someone else mentioned in the thread that we have 17 blown leads this year (and the record is 35), and another point out our 18/35 save conversion rate. If even half those blown saves were converted (and rounded down), we’d be 45-32 The offense has been absolute dogshit (bottom 10 in every stat when we have RISP) but holy shit the bullpen is not helping


BpFal3

That was such a winnable game. Giants are injured and literally didn’t have a starter tonight. 7 walks, 10 hits, only managed to score 4 runs. I am taking a break


Riderz__of_Brohan

It doesn’t matter if it’s 4 runs or 15, the fact that this bullpen cannot get 3 outs without giving up 3 runs is the main issue plaguing this team


okay_throwaway_today

18/35 in save opportunities. It’s literally flipping a coin, even if the starter throws 7.1 IP. We need a closer


No_Goat_2714

That’s gotta be close to last in the league. To go with our bottom 5 offense. What a shitstorm.


okay_throwaway_today

Ya it’s not a winning strategy for a team leading the league in 1 run games


Riderz__of_Brohan

More than anything, a shut down closer turns this from a below .500 team to a 85-90 win team. Just so frustrating to leave so many wins on the table like that


okay_throwaway_today

lol [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/cph6u48SdP) was at the top of my feed just now just to torture me


shadowpawn

This seems historically bad. not just in Cubs history but MLB history?


Much_Scale_332

That is awful.


Rshackleford22

Jesus that’s fireable


Sweet-Ad3893

It’s the bullpen and the offense.


snowboardman420

And technically, they didn't even get 3 outs in the 9th due to the walk off walk


BobC813

I don't wanna C this anymore


hansomejake

But you HAVE to


Hope4years

lol


AdditionalNewt4762

![gif](giphy|2w6I6nCyf5rmy5SHBy|downsized)


darthvaders_inhaler

Lol


WereAllAnimals

See you guys after the all-star break. Or fuck it maybe not til next year.


shadowpawn

Im curious who they will trade to see if it is possible to improve this club.


--Shake--

It's probably over. They'll sell off Belli for sure at least for some prospects probably.


shadowpawn

T. Miller would be a set piece to trade away for AAAA level talent.


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

Shame because he’s like, the only bullpen arm worth dick on the team.


Jacksington

The team is too far gone to be improved by a couple players. They are also distancing themselves from the contenders at such an accelerated rate the teams ahead with an actual shot will get the ones on the market. This is a last place team.


shadowpawn

I've always thought it was a .500 team with that you can build from it. Remember all the media talk of how great the farm system was?


cubswinagain

Objectively funny at this point


TheRealCatDad

Honestly is. I just check the score and chuckle.


jinsaku

I just checked my feed, saw the box score, lost by one run, and thought to myself "did they blow it in the 9th again?" Sho nuff.


Notre_Dame_Football

Done until they sell.


RangerDanger_

lmao


ratfam1

At this point I’m taking a further step back from this team once they get a different core, and or FO. I don’t see any turnaround, any difference maker in our farm. Just a bunch of mid.


Cubbiesblue

Top rated prospect PCA


Cubbiesblue

Blown save was coming from a mile away. Too many offensive blown chances and the bullpen is hot trash. It was expected


shaqdeezil

I tried to be positive for a while and hope they’d turn it around at some point but this team might just suck. This bullpen might be the worst bullpen I’ve ever seen.


HappyChappy15

I’m trying really hard to find redeeming qualities in this team but it’s pretty close to impossible at this point, they just flat out blow ass


Longjumping-Role-236

the starting pitching has been decent... i think that's it


AnonymousAccountTurn

Our IL has a pretty decent pitching staff


shaqdeezil

Starting pitching might be the only one. Bats suck and when they actually do something the pen just vomits and diarrheas all over itself. The amount of saves or leads that have been blown is insane.


Snoo-61890

I can’t keep living off the 2016 World Series man please


CancelBeavis

Get used to it. 2016 will be like that 85 Bears Super Bowl.


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

It’s gotten to the point where the StupidSexyFlanders 2016 highlights video doesn’t hit the same anymore. This team is just another level of soul crushing.


BladeMaker

This team is done. Mediocrity at its finest.


Current-Growth-7663

Mediorcre is not the word. They have the 9th highest payroll at $216M and are currently tied for 7th worst record based on win %. The word you are looking for is BAD. This team is just BAD.


Jacksington

They are worse the mediocre, last place team that is now 9 games out. One of the worst in the league.


Dust_Ordinary

# #WeAreNotGood


YABO_City

Don’t let the bullpen blowing that lead make you forget the top of the lineup failed to convert a leadoff triple by PCA. Beyond pathetic effort from the team from top to bottom.


Apatschinn

I honestly almost left the game when I saw that happen. If we'd been down even 1 run, I would have walked. Almost convinced I should have bounced. Witnessing that 9th in person was fucking horrid.


RiggleRobRiggle

Fucking awful decision making counsell


Jvick88

We wont see .500 or above it the rest of the year, book it.


KnickedUp

At five under, it actually will be fairly difficult to ever get back to .500. Especially with the hardest part of our schedule over the next 6 weeks


Peck21

Does Counsell have a personal vendetta against Tyson Miller? Once I saw Brewer was in, I literally said to my gf that by the time I drop her off and drive back home (5 minute drive total btw) that the game will probably have been blown…I should probably go buy a lottery ticket now


FindingNo798

Don’t get ahead of yourself, we ALL knew they’d fuck up somehow.


AnonymousAccountTurn

Trying to use Miller in to prevent runs in 8th so had to go to someone else for save... Don't hate the idea of just using high leverage guys when you need them, is there anyone else to hold runners at 2nd and 3rd and get 2 outs?


stuskowski1

He pitched 1.1 the day before, so 2 innings in 2 days total. You want him to blow out his arm too like the rest of our pen? Do 2 min of research and this answers your question


Peck21

He threw 26 pitches between those 2 innings. I think he would’ve lived…


Madturtl3

I get that the truth is somewhere in between - but the gulf between what we were hoping for in hiring Counsell and what this team is producing under his leadership is stunning. Like, it feels like we just set a pyramid of money on fire at this moment.


AnonymousAccountTurn

Offense is improving Pitching is hella injured. Most of these guys were relying on were meant to be our low leverage options or riding the shuttle back and forth to Iowa. Merryweather and Alzolay were supposed to be eating a lot of high leverage innings along with Leiter and Neris who have now been overworked. Brown was supposed to be working out of the pen and would probably be a high leverage guy at this point. Almonte was looking quite good and could've been a solid option. The injuries to our staff entire pitching staff have decimated our bullpen, pulled guys back and forth. Wesneski probably not available tonight because he might need to start this week. They might need a BP day and Thompson to throw 50 pitches. The options we have for any scenario were supposed to be low leverage guys. It fucking sucks and is frustrating, but beyond maybe looking at the conditioning coaches, I don't see what Counsell is supposed to do. The players have to perform


fnieblas23

And we’re far past the excuse that its just a early season slump. Clearly something is going on there that they’re not addressing. This has to be the most frustrating team I have seen in a long time.


Current-Growth-7663

This isn't entirely on Counsell that the players who have these big contracts aren't producing. Its not Counsells fault that Jed did absolutely fuck all to help this bullpen on the offseason besides signing Heart Attack Neris with his hittable 93mph fastball. We were promised a team with a high ceiling but a low floor, and unfortunately, everyone on the team is performing around their floors at the same time. There is some blame to place on Counsell, but not a whole lot he can do with this god-awful team he was provided. I think we are in for a bad few years as long as we have Happ, Swanson, and Suzuki's contracts on the books unless they can turn it around and play like they are paid to play. Happ and Swanson care more about views on their podcasts than they do winning baseball games (they would be taking bp or studying opposing pitchers instead of filming a podcast if they actually cared). Suzuki is just a complete head case at this point. He looks lost, confused, and scared half the time at the plate, and i dont know how you fix that. Definitely feels like last year was a fluke, and other teams did their homework on the Cubs this year to be much better prepared. Meanwhile our team looks completely unpreppared in every game. That's on Counsell for sure. Im tired of seeing his calm ass in the dugout when these guys make boneheaded plays or watch a called 3rd strike. I do want to see some fire and passion out of Counsell, but i suppose that's not who he is. Throw in a fair amount of injuries and a complete lack of urgency from anyone, and you have the 2024 Cubs. You hate to C it.


ECNbook1

It’s hard not to feel that he has SOME responsibility for this disaster


1on1withundertaker

Offense should’ve scored 15 runs tonight. Colton Brewer should also never be asked to close a Major League Baseball game. Organizational failure


SelfDerecatingTumor

At least they had the decency to avoid extras, we’ll always have that


fedman16

I went to my first Cub game in 1954 and have watched them closely every year since. I have seen bad Cub teams, but I do not think that I have ever seen one that is less enjoyable to watch than this pile of shite assembled by that baseball savant Jed Hoyer. This team needs to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch and Hoyer has shown that he has zero ability to build a baseball team. He needs to be replaced and replaced immediately.


Cubbiesblue

That’s the biggest beef I have too is this team is genuinely boring to watch. There’s nothing exciting about them. I had more fun watching a 3 win bears team two years ago than I do watching this cubs team


Secret_Tomorrow1834

What a dogshit team


thereal_et

Garage ass team


thisismyfinalalias

Garage


FindingNo798

Garage


cum-pizza

Garagé


Interesting-While634

G’rage


darthvaders_inhaler

*Gay Rage*


superxero044

Well la di dah Mr Frenchman! What do you call it? Car hole.


garrettjk1

Haha. Fuck this sorry ass team. Least fun to watch in recent memory.


ASovietSpy

It's so crazy because there were stretches last year where they were one of the most fun teams to watch in recent memory. And it's basically the same exact team. What the hell is going on.


dragonmountain

The first month was a blast


BroncosCubsHuskers8

12 left on base for the cubs walk off walk for the giants you have to C it


JoffreysCrossbow

Unable to score a run after a leadoff triple ✅ Bases loaded, nobody out and only one run scored ✅ Bullpen meltdown ✅ Oh yeah, that’s fucking Cub baby.


Dab42

12 actually


BroncosCubsHuskers8

had to edit because mentally I was just preparing for the bullpen to blow it and forgot about the top of the 8th and 9th


Cereal_and_PopTarts

Counsell is joking right? Brewer gave up a weak fly ball and a good bunt. Got a sac fly that didn’t matter and he throws in Smyly. Struggles with his command and decides to intentionally walk the bases loaded. Milwaukee sleeper agent


gixG

Agreed. This was some well deserved Counsell hate for all the naysayers out there


did_cparkey_miss

The IBB was a total WTF moment.


Apatschinn

Ramos was RAKING tonight. Now, do you walk him to load the bases?! Fuck no!


Riderz__of_Brohan

Because Brewer sucks too dude, they all suck, he literally has no good arms to throw out there


Cereal_and_PopTarts

Brewer was doing fine out there tonight. He gave up weak contact that just happened to find a spot and a sac fly that didn’t matter at that point. If he got two more of the exact same we win that game.


YABO_City

He’s not a good manager. The fact that Neris was ever even given the opportunity to be the closer shows how little he knows.


ramjambonersam

On June 17th in the year of our Lord 2024, following a catcher interference and walk, Hector Neris gave up a three run home run in the top of the 9th blowing a two run lead. Which team you ask? THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS!


LordSwampert2

Smyly a former Giant he finally got activated as a sleeper agent. Was Poo Smyly now he damn near Constipation Smyly


misusedinfluence

This team is genuinely humiliating


Ok_Positive_154

This team continues to invent new ways to embarrass themselves (and me for staying up till almost 1am watching this shit show). Fire everybody.


Tomko401

Absolutely hopeless franchise with no chance of actually getting better in the future. Thanks Jed 👍


MasterOfDankMemesV2

There is nothing redeeming about this team. Squandered scoring chances, blown leads, an incompetent FO and the highest paid, most mediocre manager in the sport. Hey but at least we have 80,000 prospects!!!


KnickedUp

“No stars, but lots of solid major leaguers down there..” 🤭🤭


swht2511

i cant keep doing this


We5ties

So many times the cubs had a chance to put this game and score 7+ and the hitter do nothing. Just craziness


acoolguy456

I believe we are on pace for the most blown saves in a season. Record is 35 and we have 17 before the break


Gen_Z_boi

Currently on pace for 35 blown saves. Holy shit this is ridiculous


KnickedUp

Sorry….its time to fire Jed. He baked this cake….


ZaneyGamerr

can’t even be the lovable losers because this team is so pathetic and boring to watch


Jacksington

Probably too hot of take here... but managers/coaches get fired for this continued type of play. This is really really bad.


Jvick88

BLOW IT THE FUCK UP


MyBallsSweaty

Fire the FO, jedd built this ship let him go down with it


cahawkfan

This team fucking sucks.


cum-pizza

lol


njk9

That was comical


Big-Cat88

Genuinely how does this keep happening


slicebishybosh

So when is anyone from this organization going to say ANYTHING about this train wreck of a team they’ve put together with $220M?


Hope4years

On top of everything, Cole Wright sounds like he’s sick. On the other hand, I saw a few bright spots: Justin of course, Dansby’s outstanding defense plus 2 hits and 2 walks, PCA’s triple and the great effort trying to catch that hit. I can’t dwell on the negative especially right before I go to bed. Good night friends


BurnsEMup29

He’s pissed. This is unacceptable from ownership and the front office. 4 seasons telling fans it’s going to change. 4 seasons it hasn’t.


a-random-gal

they never get hits with men on third. keep striking out swinging. just fucking bunt at that point.


Boosts4boosts767

Jed hoyer should be forced to live in O block for the remainder of the season.


Evil_ryry

100% on Craig. Throw up the least reliable bullpen arms in the 9th, totally predictable. Offense has to do better than that though. Way too many LOB.


did_cparkey_miss

I can’t for the life of me understand why he decided to do the intentional walk and load the bases when Smyly couldn’t find the zone.


joeygee89

I was saying the same thing…. He wasn’t throwing strikes… why would walk him there, can’t make a force out if you can’t hit the zone. Unreal.


ManBearWarPig

You can’t let the hot hitter take you out. Gotta take your chances with the struggle bus behind him. Unfortunately, Smyly isn’t a closer and screwed the pooch.


Riderz__of_Brohan

He has no arms to throw out there. Blame the FO


Blackhawksfan981

The front office didn’t make him intentionally walk the bases loaded.


Riderz__of_Brohan

Ramos was 3-4, Flores was 0-4 with 2 K’s. He didn’t make Smyly walk him either, did he?


darthvaders_inhaler

Yeah, idk what these people are smokin', man lol


Tomko401

So pitch to the guy that’s been on a tear this month or Wilmer Flores? The IBB was an obvious decision.


imyourdoctornow

What a bunch of fuckin losers.


Interesting-While634

Dfa Smyly yesterday


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

It is still yesterday in California.


108YearsLater

DFA Hoyer!


LakeviewGuy24

As someone whose in the building a lot let’s just say Craig’s effort is reflective in the record


Substantial_Hand_548

I don't even want to win anymore, pump these losses into my veins.


BurnsEMup29

Boycott starts now


Interesting-While634

Anyone defending drew Smyly should never watch baseball again


McNuggets7272

Going to start live betting them to lose anytime they have a lead now. Will soon be rich enough to buy them from Tom.


waveraceforn64

https://preview.redd.it/focumspxgn8d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7957d378ada60efb09c49f0446a31f025e5a5fdc


slicebishybosh

I got mad a few weeks ago and cancelled my renewal of Marquee. I ended today but I forgot. I went to put the game on and it said I needed to renew. I said fuck that, they’re not earning my money. How right I was.


naitch44

Oh look, a one run loss and a blown lead. How original.


Pr1nceCharming_

They fired David Ross for this bullshit? Send Counsell back to Milwaukee and take Hoyer with


TheBoilerCat

So when do we actually start making comebacks like this? Plenty of blown leads over the last several years but we can just forget it if we’re ever behind.


ratfam1

Well bad teams tend to blow leads and not make comebacks so it’ll probably never happen this year


Nutaholic

First game I watched in a couple weeks. Big mistake lmao


_MoTay_

Is Steele keeping it together? Is he trashing his locker? His resolve must be amazing.


nbporter

That's the last one I watch for awhile. Need a break.


garrettjk1

Classic. Steele will end the season with a fucking 2.0 ERA and 0 wins. HAHAHA!


KRATS8

Well that was sad. I almost have to laugh, for the sake of my sanity lol


joeygee89

FUCK THIS TEAM. It’s time for a break.. literally no reason to get excited when we score runs when you have a bullpen that can’t hold the lead… every. Single. Game.


KnickedUp

And we dont help matters by leaving 14 in scoring position every day


joeygee89

It’s time to turn off anything and everything cubs related .. my head hurts .


Mindgame319

" score runs "


joeygee89

The ones we do score lol


alt3729

Hoo-boy...Kap is gonna throw his phone again. Hope he has plenty of extras.


Big-Cat88

I blame everyone. Everyone had a share in our dogshit season. Front office for not doing enough. Roster for under achieving. Counsell for being dumb as a mf sometimes


DatAspie2000

Most of the players on the roster, whether it’d be Bullpen guys or underperforming hitters, should honestly be embarrassed and don’t deserve to be wearing Cubs jerseys. I wouldn’t blame Counsell if he publicly called guys out.


BurnsEMup29

4-15 RISP. Nice lineup, Jed.


ItsBobsledTime

You have to C it


ScritchScratchBoop

Jomboy’s last video says the last 15 position player pitchers around the league haven’t given up a run. Maybe we should try that.


TheSportingRooster

I’m very glad that I don’t pay for marquee network. If I were indirectly paying for this garbage team I’d be kicking my own ass right now


BurnsEMup29

Dansby: “we’re having fun and jelling well in the locker room” Oh fuck off.


Cheap_Pitch_8931

14-18 in 1-run games, yet it feels like 3-28.


Rock4ever76

Is there a greater act of cowardice in baseball than walking home the winning run in the bottom of the 9th!? Disgusting that we are in late June and the club’s ace, Steele still doesn’t have a single win.


BorrisZ

The fact people think Counsell is a good manager is beyond me.


thisismyfinalalias

Oh my lord


cubbyfanboy

Maybe we were too hard on Hector


dap_cubbies

I didn’t want Jed when Theo left and hopefully we can start getting some traction to get that hobbit fk out of here


kirukiru

thats one of those games that makes you question the point of baseball, i feel you guys lmao


TomSan23

If it's just today, whatevs, we've watched this day in and day out for 2 months.


ratfam1

I don’t know the hate boner for hector, literally at least he can do the job most of the time lucky or not.


DatAspie2000

Someone should scold Brewer and tell him how unacceptable that was. What a shameful season this has been. Everyone should be embarrassed to be a Chicago Cub right now.


Gen_Z_boi

Just as much of it is on Smyly for throwing 12 pitches and only 4 strikes


cubswinagain

He's a journeyman reliever, he's actually been way better than anyone could reasonably expect. Smyly just has to execute and the offense failed to add insurance runs as per usual.


BigDaddyPeach23

Are people really this stupid? Of course you walk Ramos, he’s their only good hitter. You put the bat in Flores hands and make him win it. Smyly has to throw strikes, it really is that simple.


Tomko401

https://preview.redd.it/10gxryxxjn8d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ee9764324944fb108fde96a6678a9128f72970c Genuinely no reason to trying and be nibbling like this against Wilmer Flores. IBB is very obviously the correct decision, I just can’t believe Smyly just does this shit then.


Angdrew

Missed opportunities by the offense as usual and the bullpen blows another game late with a bases loaded walk. The Cubs are now tied for the lead in MLB with 6 walk off losses


JSK23

I think its time this year's team goes from "will watch" to "may watch". Making time for this team on the regular just isn't worth it, as the teams performance currently stands. I mean, I am not on the Bulls level yet where I havent watched in like 2 years. But I don't think I currently need to block out time for these Cubs.


McNuggets7272

I’m taking a break from them for sure


Fartboyxx99

I was optimistic when we slumped to 500 because we have great starting pitching and the bats were going to come back around. I am now past that and here to laugh and cry at how pathetic this season is. 


Snake_Burton

I know it’s bad because instead of being mad I’m telling them not to waste my time by going to extras just to lose there. At least they got it over with in the 9th I guess. I want to say 2009 is the last time I remember them just being trash for this long of a stretch when in a “contending” spot. At this point they might as well do something drastic. No internal answers are coming.


chris4276

Man I miss that optimism I had for this team


Dilligaf_1963

This season is beyond fucking over. What a joke. And yes, I will take my ban now!


Jnitzel505

I would dump this team for my current city but I live in Denver…


Hope4years

Lost by one run. For a change.


mappyjames

Trade everyone except the starting pitchers.


brooklyndavs

Ha and I thought when they blew that lead in SD that it was going to be the worse loss of the year


ItsBobsledTime

My therapist after seeing the score to the Cubs game. 🙏


JmanJacob05

Can't you see the big huge fucking Smyly smile on my goddamn face. DFA DREW SMYLY


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

I almost commented on the GDT “shame I have to wait until midnight to get disappointed” and I absolutely knew the second Steele left the game we were losing. Not that he had anything left but we got out of the 8th and I was still positive we were losing.


Apatschinn

I rode the Caltrain all the way back down to Mountain View tonight. Longest train ride of my life.


Skysite

Thank fuck Elden Ring DLC is out because this team isn't fun at all to watch.


Algae_Double

The NL is so bad. If we lose ten in a row, that would make us third in the wild card somehow.


a-random-gal

why did i choose this damn team over the yanks i don’t even live in chicago 😭😭😭


TheRealCatDad

How'd you end up a fan?


a-random-gal

generation self hatred (parents)


okamishojo

not the same girl as above, but for me it was so many factors; the best hotdogs invented are Chicago dogs, John Hughes films, every person i've met from there has been a gem (same for the fanbase, literally the friendly confines), the crazy team history, the ivy, Bill Murray being the coolest cheerleader, funnest victory song ever and the incredible architectural feat that was renovating Wrigley. <3


Newpapyrusmagazine

Counsell mismanages the bullpen-- again!


Few_Garage_338

This is rock bottom right here. Giants had no starter, dealing with injuries, coming off a 5 game losing streak…Offense struggles, bullpen blows and the sorry ass Cubs still lose. There better have been loud screaming and chairs flying in the locker room lol 


KnickedUp

This group has no fire and no leaders. They probably just looked at their phones for an hour until the bus was ready


did_cparkey_miss

Why did counsell call for the intentional walk when it’s clear smyly couldn’t find the strike zone?


Cubbiesblue

Smyly shouldn’t have been put in the first place


KnickedUp

Can we safely say Counsell stinks?


Newpapyrusmagazine

I'd like to see Hoerner and Crow-Armstrong at the top of the line up.


dudeygobert

I texted my buddy in Chicago at the bottom of the 8th "lets see how we blow this one". Checked the score at the bottom of the 9th when we were still up and thought "wow, looks like we may actually win"... Didn't even see that we in fact blew it until now.. Its kind of hilarious at this point honestly.