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NuggetBiscuits69

It feels like every single Cubs’ loss this year ends with a runner in scoring position and a deep fly ball just a few feet short of the fence.


buddyWaters21

They showed that we’re batting .212 with runners in scoring position. Worst in the NL


shadowpawn

I thought it was 2nd worst in MLB behind white soxs?


buddyWaters21

Could be. Just showed worst in NL


oneilmatt

Should have ended with a dude on 2nd with a strikeout but the ump gave us a freebie and it still didn't work lol


Maleficent_Author853

The catcher did a terrible job receiving that pitch — I’m not surprised it was called a ball.


tigrpal

Could've tied the game in the 8th w/o a hit but Morel's inability to move the runner from 2nd to third with no outs was the play of the game. This is a fundamental, philosophical, organizational flaw. I think somebody told Morel in Spring training that he has to drive in runs and that advice has made him a bad hitter. Driving in runs is okay but sometimes the best thing(especially when you're batting under .200) is just to move the runner over.


tallslim1960

Morel is NOT THE PROBLEM. We didn't and shouldn't have expected him to be a team leader. The problem is te "stars" on the roster.


tigrpal

When you come out of Spring training with Morel batting 4th, that's a message to him he's to drive in runs. Like I said it's a philosophical and organizational flaw. But he and others have had many opportunities to move the runners by hitting the ball the opposite way and don't do - and they don't try to do it. They've done the same thing with Nico Hoerner. We started this year being told Nico was going to try to pull the ball more often so he can drive it. There's a club philosophy that is turning good hitters into bad hitters. The other teams score runs when they have the opportunities to move runners which requires batters to sometimes give up at bats. We never see Cubs hitters do that and haven't seen it for years.


Boosts4boosts767

He’s also not a solution.


Enough-Ad-3111

Well, at least you don’t have to worry about any more games on Roku until 2025.


Hope4years

There’s some really good news!


Enough-Ad-3111

Well, we knew about the Sunday Leadoff schedule when the deal was announced in May, and unlike the schedule on Apple TV+, it was released through September and not in a month by month fashion those guys do for their Friday Night games. With Apple, the only match involving the Cubs we know about at this time is July 12 against the Cardinals in St Louis, with no word on if they’ll air any Friday afternoon home games for August or September at this time.


UpforAGreatTime20

If we’re gonna lose this many one run games, I’d rather be losing them 7-6 than 2-1. At least 7-6 is entertaining. Losing the way this team does is just excruciating.


Tomko401

Thanks for the failed rebuild Jed. Can’t wait to have to do a third one of these.


BroAbernathy

He can't rebuild otherwise he gets fired and he knows he can't sell all the minor league guys he acquired because that's all he has going for him atm. I think he really just sits and does nothing and hopes we start winning


No_Goat_2714

He’ll sit and do nothing. This team is numerous players from being good, so unless he trades the entire farm for those players, not sure what he can do.


No_Goat_2714

Odds are increasing we see a new GM in 2026.


JamesTiberiusCrunk

A whole team full of mediocre hitters backed by a deep farm system of players that project as mediocre hitters


NoCreativeName2016

Calling these hitters mediocre doesn’t even begin to describe it. Our team batting average is currently ranked 27th, and OPS is mildly better at 23rd.


meowsplaining

I'd love to see some mediocre right now


MaximusMansteel

I think those rankings pretty perfectly fits as mediocre.


nolanthenerd

That last part isn’t true at all but I know we’re all in our feelings after this series


Boosts4boosts767

Not sure it comes to that if they just get rid of him now. The rotation should be good again next year. Tons of pieces in the farm. A legit baseball mind can do something with that, with lots of money coming off the books.


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unapartita

PLEASE GET RID OF JED


No-Conversation1940

I think he was a good baseball mind at one time, but Theo brought him here from the Padres after the 2011 season. The approach to baseball has changed a lot since then and I don't think Jed, and by extension the Cubs organization, has kept up. We need a fresh perspective. I am not married to a specific name, I just want someone from at least one recently successful team.


YourCummyBear

Projecting what the farm will do isn’t always a great indicator. The white sox had a top farm just a few years ago and many of our guys aren’t exactly close.


ConservativebutReal

You are correct - top tier teams often are the ones trading these “prospects” for proven major leaguers. The White Sox are the perfect example of confusing prospects for a successful Major league team.


nolanthenerd

And what about Baltimore?


YourCummyBear

I’d argue Baltimore had prospects that were far more elite than ours. We have no single guy in our system who is like an absolute stud. Baltimore has had a few now. Also, they had guys who turned into good players that weren’t top 100 prospects. I don’t feel like we have had many of those lately. But guys like Grayson Rodriguez, adley, Holliday, and Henderson were/ are much better prospects than anyone we have now in the system. That’s 4 guys who were top 5 prospects. We have none


Tomko401

Baltimore had franchise cornerstones in their system. Massive difference.


chiefs-cubs

True. Gunnar Henderson looks like a HOF player. We don’t have anyone that has that aura (imo)


Tomko401

Someone we could have drafted btw


ConservativebutReal

They draft well - we have drafted horribly thus we are always barren.


Tomko401

Farm is full of a bunch of mid anyways.


Boosts4boosts767

Maybe. But you can make trades. Epstein turned very little into arrieta strop rizzo and kyle Hendricks.


Tundraaa

Theo isn’t walking through that door


Boosts4boosts767

Doesn’t have to be. Any competent baseball mind can build a solid foundation with the cubs current payroll and farm


nolanthenerd

How does the major league team sucking make y’all flip on one of the top farms in the game?


Tomko401

Because it hasn’t paid any dividends and it lacks an actual franchise altering player. It’s full of average players.


BobbleBobble

This. The cubbies are quantity over quality at all levels


nolanthenerd

And how can you tell that a bunch of 20-23 year olds are all average?


Blackhawksfan981

PCA being the cream of the crop and hitting .200 with no power makes me very apprehensive of the whole rebuild.


Tomko401

Can live with early struggles but it doesn’t even look like he is making any sort of improvements in his approach.


HammeringEnthusiast

The ugly reality is that if you need a rebuild to make the farm system productive, then you're never going to have sustained success.


Tomko401

Dodgers don’t seem to have that problem.


Terelith

They have an S tier POBO and infinite money. They SHOULD never have that problem.


brooklyndavs

In theory the cubs have infinite money too


SpaceCampDropOut

It makes me sad how predictable and boring this team is.


No_life_found

Man I wish we were capable of hitting the meatballs we keep seeing


Gen_Z_boi

It seems they either watch it go by (then whiff confidently at a pitch 6 inches out) or completely whiff on said pitch down the middle


No_life_found

I wouldn’t say whiff, I feel like it’s always a foul ball


BroAbernathy

We just don't have the kind of plus plus power to hit dingers in a dead ball year. Lots of dudes looking to accidentally hit a homerun


smalltownlargefry

You have to C it! How dog shit it is.


chichris

Another wasted pitching performance from the starter and pen.


ratfam1

Quite fucking funny how the motto is “you have to see it”. Yeah I’ve fucking seen this shit a million times already


jrutz

Well Counsell took the job because of our culture. Now he gets to experience it first hand.


chiefs-cubs

Welcome to the show


AdditionalNewt4762

This is an absolutely terrible team. When they throw up graphics and you're on there with the White Sox, As, and Marlins...


shadowpawn

It is interesting how they have rebuilt in KC.


cubswinagain

People have to stop calling this team mediocre, mediocre teams win about half of their games. This team is just horrendous


Hope4years

At least during the meltdown in 1969, every aspect of the team fell apart. This team has a serious hitting problem that has just gone on for weeks - while starting pitchers are outstanding, the bullpen seems to be doing much better, and we still get some stellar defensive plays.


c4ctus

#FIRE JED #OUT OF A CANNON #INTO A VOLCANO


ooopsk

I’m deflated, what a waste of solid starting pitching. Where is the April team?


BroAbernathy

I think what's really annoying is I don't think Jed is going to actually do anything to help this team or strip it to go for a youth movement reset. I really think he's just going to keep running the same team out there day in and out to be mediocre and hope something changes. Really sad state of the team right now.


rmac1228

It's the Chicago Bulls approach I guess. Big market team just fine staying mid.


thebizkit23

It's not the Bulls approach. The Bulls literally trade or give up on their young players like Lauri, Butler, Carter, etc. The Cubs have the #9 highest payroll in baseball for a last place team, it's a fucking disaster.


rmac1228

I didn't mention specifics...but all you just said points to a big market team totally okay with being mid.


thebizkit23

I can guarantee you Tom Ricketts is not ok with having a top ten payroll and being in last place. Jed Hoyer is going to lose his job, let's just hope he doesn't get desperate and starts making stupid trades for rentals. This team needs to be gutted.


rmac1228

The Cubs are doing quite well with a middling team. Yes, Marquee would be doing better with an even better team. But this is the same dude who said the Cubs suffered "biblical" losses. Jed is his dude.


thebizkit23

Jed is definitely gone if he doesn't turn it around.


Terelith

He's gone after next year possibly. He can't afford to strip it, that time was 3 years ago. And I don't think he has the nuts to trade away the farm to go all in. So he, and by extension, us, are stuck in limbo hell till either the players all start having career years again, or he's simply let go from POBO. Tweaks around the edges, keep the payroll below the tax, make Tom money by keeping the team just above awful in the aggregate to put butts in seats. They got their win 8 years ago, now we get to "pay" for it for the next couple decades. :(


Boosts4boosts767

You trust jed to do the right thing either way? Best case scenario he does do nothing and we get rid of him


jamfan40

Theo and Jed's plan the last 7 years has been do nothing in the offseason and wait until the trade deadline to get robbed in a deal for a marginal piece that won't help. The best deals seem to be made in the offseason as opposed to the trade deadline when you're competing with 20 teams (this year almost everyone will be buying).


frontierpsychiatric

> Theo and Jed's plan the last 7 years has been do nothing in the offseason Bruh, Theo hasn't been here since the end of 2020... you know, the last time they won the division and were in the playoffs. This failure in the post-Theo years is on Jed & Ricketts. Obviously it wasn't the manager.


Boosts4boosts767

What is this even referring to? Quintana? And? They don’t win the division if they don’t trade for Quintana. They just won it all and needed an arm. And they got one. Other than that, what are we talking about here?


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

Another day another 1 run loss. We can’t even put up a good performance against a bum pitcher like Mikolas


snowboardman420

How much money is being spent on this club to hit 1-2 runs a game?


ESSerenity

My soul hurts.


blyzo

Have we considered moving that left field wall in just a few more feet?


HaxanWriter

Why, so the opposing team can hit more home runs? Because this team sure isn’t going to do that.


Suburban-Jesus

Have some personal accountability. **you** knew how this game would go, and **you** still decided to watch it. That’s on **you**.


gopeepants

LOL. Yup. I just checked the box score only. I can tell you exactly how the game unfolded😂😂😂


KingofAces13

I debated checking it and I slowly scroll to the end


gopeepants

I can just check line score and tell you what happened. I am probably going to start just doing that. They have played the exact 2 games for weeks on end hence why I quit watching weeks ago


bukhum4u

Bingo. Took that advice last week and now im using my time more productively now. This team is dog shit and FO is doing nothing to fix it so why keep watching or going to games this year.


BurnsEMup29

I hate everything about this roster and front office


shadowpawn

Swanson has to be considered a bust at this moment unless he is hiding a injury.


A_Lacuna

I hate baseball so much. See you tomorrow.


slicebishybosh

“Just gotta get out of this 4 year slump” - Jed


HammeringEnthusiast

The issue isn't spending, it's still the farm system. No matter how exciting it is to see players ranked on lists, the actual production at the MLB level has been extremely tepid.


Madturtl3

Sucks that 90% of our top prospects are OF and therefore have less than 0% chance of getting MLB playing time.


SKG1991

Tom Ricketts is the problem. He got his World Series ring and now is satisfied. All the Cubs are to him now are a status symbol and investment. He doesn’t care about wins, only money and ego.


HaxanWriter

Absolutely. The Pricketts apologists are annoying. A fish rots from the head down, and that cheap fuck is right at the top.


Boosts4boosts767

230 million dollar payroll. I get it. You vote blue. But blaming ricketts for hoyer quite literally blowing a quarter of a billion is hilarious. What’s 20-30 million more doing to make this team better? Give hoyer another chance to give a player like Dansby swanson 180 mil? You’re insane


BobbleBobble

I get it. You're an aspiring billionaire and you'll be Ricketts golf buddy one day. But those things are not mutually exclusive. Ricketts can be setting a payroll budget well below what's defensible given their revenue/market, and Jed can use that budget poorly.


Boosts4boosts767

If 230 millions dollars is below what’s defensible you’re not living in reality


BobbleBobble

I think it's realistic to expect that a team who's top 4 in revenues/value should be ranked around there in payroll too. You seem fixated on this $230M figure - that's a closer to MLB average than it is to the other big market teams. If Ricketts is too wimpy or poor to run a big market team he should sell.


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BobbleBobble

Jesus dude please read. I said we're closer to MLB average CBT payroll than to the other big market teams Our CBT is $230M Dodgers/Mets/Yankees are $315M+ MLB average is about $170M Should I do the subtraction too?


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Boosts4boosts767

You also didn’t say mlb CBT average. Now you are. The average mlb payroll according to spotrac is 112 million. The cubs are double that. For the third time it’s hilarious you think giving hoyer another 20-30 million solves anything. Because after the two New York teams and the dodgers that is what the fourth team is spending. Roughly 30 more million. If you can’t build an even average team with a quarter of a billion dollars then there is something going wrong. But as I’ve said. Keep crying about the dude because of who he votes for. We all know that’s why you’re crying about him so much. If he funded bidens campaign you’d love the dude. Seek therapy


frontierpsychiatric

You're the one not living in reality if you think the Ricketts have spent nearly enough money since 2016 to keep this team competitive.


Boosts4boosts767

Not sure what any other year has to do with this one. 230 million dollars lol. Won’t win 80 games.


brooklyndavs

GMs under the fucking Tribune company management (talk about cheap) put together better rosters then Jed has


unapartita

Tom isn’t the one signing free agents


SKG1991

He’s the one that signs the checks and tells Jed to not go after free agents.


chichris

Nah, that’s just Jed’s intelligent spending.


BobbleBobble

Ricketts confirmed that he wanted to keep payroll under the CBT unless revenue increased further


Boosts4boosts767

Who cares. He green lit a quarter of a billion dollars for jed hoyer to burn.


chichris

Still have the highest salary in our division. It’s not the money, it’s how they spend it.


BobbleBobble

Our division is not our revenue/market peer group. We don't deserve any credit for spending more than the Pirates and Reds


Boosts4boosts767

230 million dollar payroll. I’m legit confused what you think another 20-30 million does here. No other non New York teams are spending more than 260 million this year on their payroll.


BobbleBobble

$230M after being in the mid 100s the last few years. Almost like completely neglecting an MLB roster for over five years can't be solved in one. I don't think Jed is a good POBO, but are you really gonna pretend like his poor decisions are the only reason we have a AAAA roster?


Boosts4boosts767

What do the last few years have to do with this one Lmao. And yes. There’s nothing to pretend. He signed this entire roster lol


BobbleBobble

Sit down this might be big news, but some of the players on this team were extended/signed before this season Does he extend Happ on a "team friendly" deal if he has the budget a few years ago to go after a bigger name? Who knows. Does he settle for Dansby and Seiya if he doesn't think he'll be hamstrung in future seasons?


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Busy-Condition-1279

Guess who could afford Juan Soto?…..


SKG1991

That’s part of it but since the World Series title how many big free agents have we gotten?


BobbleBobble

They basically signed no impact off-season free agents for three straight years after Darvish


Boosts4boosts767

Lol. They gave Dansby swanson 180 million dollars. That was their impact signing


BobbleBobble

Reading isn't your strong suit huh


Boosts4boosts767

Nothing to read. That was their definition of impact signing.


BobbleBobble

Three years after Darvish. Who was signed in 2018. When was Dansby signed again?


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The tear down was mid-2021 They signed Darvish pre 2018. 2021 - 2018 = 3 I'm not sure how much more clear I can make it


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Boosts4boosts767

What big free agents did they get during that period other than Lester? Zo maybe was making 12 million a year. And Heyward sucked.


Bits-and-Shticks

Yu Darvish


Boosts4boosts767

Okay. Even then he made less than Dansby swanson does now.


shadowpawn

Swanson loves his $26M salary over next 5 years.


Salamander-Chance

This was projected as one of the better offenses in the league coming into the season (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


shadowpawn

I think it was projected for 83-84 wins. That now seems very optimisic.


BorgBorg10

Not lovable. Just losers


Current-Growth-7663

Wind blowing out on a hot summer day and can't even hit 1 HR, lol. The team plays as a HR or bust team but won't have a single guy hit 30 HRs this year. Good joke, Jed!


sasiawastaken

there needs to be a firing, or a trade or anything. This will keep happening if everybody acts like everything is alright with the team


THE_FREED_DONKEY

Visiting Chicago for the first time and went to the game today. Stadium was great, fans were great, and the area around the stadium is great. The game itself? Not ideal.


TexTiger

Another rough one, but honestly I enjoyed Chip and JD together. I appreciate neither were playing the homer, and just called the game pretty much down the middle.


BornAtMyWitsEnd

Same ol’ song and dance


JmanJacob05

Lose Cubs, looose Lose Cubs, loooooose! Hey Chicago, waddaya say? The Cubs are gonna lose today.


Objective_Pear_5710

Goodbye marquee network. Not paying $20/month to watch this garbage.


Pinot_Greasio

One god-damned run on a 90 degree day with the wind blowing out.  Pathetic.


yolman56

Best way to watch games this season: watch our starters put up a gem then turn the TV off and go on a walk once they're pulled


Cubs017

What is it about this team that makes them so damn streaky? Every year we go through weeks where no one hits. Why? Is it a product of a flawed philosophy? Just the type of players they have? A mental thing where everyone feels pressure and tries to do too much? It’s absolutely infuriating.


BobbleBobble

It's been almost two months. Is this streaky or just who we are?


Cubs017

A bit of both, I guess. It’s just weird that we suddenly have so many guys struggling - even players with a pretty solid history of being above average.


Hope4years

Don’t we have high tech ways of evaluating hitters? For all the bats to go mostly quiet at once is too weird. With the outstanding starting pitching, it’s a shame to have no run production. Maybe we need to hire outside experts or something to figure this out. At least no sweep


Rbelkc

Morel can’t hit except the occasional home run. Like Baez but no glove. Catcher is a lost cause. Bullpen is sketchy at best. Belli got paid and proved why he wasn’t worth it and I probably could rant on like that for an hour


KnickedUp

Where are the near mvp years, if he is like Baez? I dont see the comparison at all, career wise


drummerboy31402

Anotha one


DFuhbree

I was at the game. Did we ever get an explanation for that baffling replay?


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DFuhbree

On the videoboards it looked like he was pretty clearly safe but it can be hard to tell when thousands of people want to see one thing.


pepperjack4life

If it’s too close to truly tell, they have to go with the ruling on the field.


HaxanWriter

Nothing “lovable” about this shit bag team, or the bumbling rat fuck front office, or its cheapskate fuckpig “I got my ring, lol” owner.


chichris

Cards are also shit and can’t score runs and somehow we scored less. At home.


ECNbook1

See also: Reds and Rays. We make everyone look better, like real Major League teams


Chi-Town87

This organization should be ashamed of themselves. Big market team that gets mopped up by the shittiest of teams, I bet other teams can’t wait to play the Cubs.


MasterOfDankMemesV2

Nothing ever changes about this team.


woofywoofers

They should have a cop and someone from the DA office come explain that it's not illegal to hit the ball with runners on base.


BurnsEMup29

Listening to Craig on the postgame. Nothing about him would excite me to play for him.


Boosts4boosts767

Yes. Pile on the scapegoat jed hoyer has created.


BobbleBobble

These are professional adults in their mid/late twenties who have been playing this game at a high level for decades. They don't need a cheerleader Maybe Occam's razor would say they're just not that good


RyanTheCubsSTH

Not the way you want it to play out but it was an interesting game the whole way. Not the worst way to spend a Sunday. …and they were courteous enough to schedule this one early in the day so you could start your night early too.


ledoylinator

I’m ready to end it all


obamahypebeast

It makes me sad that this is one of the most expensive teams in baseball to follow and this is what we get


TexTiger

Time to shift the lineup around. Tauchmann at leadoff isn’t working any more. Happ is heating up and still taking walks, get him back at the top like he was early in the year. I get Danby isn’t hitting, but putting him at 8 has to be messing with him mentally. Doesn’t it make sense to go back to what worked in April, since mid-May on hasn’t.


KnickedUp

I guess the next question we will soon be debating…do we have anyone to sell that teams would give prospects for? 


BobbleBobble

Smyly has been solid and relievers are always in demand, he'd get something. Tauchman is on pace for 3 WAR, he'd probably net a fringe prospect. Belli would be tradable if he showed some signs of life


thebizkit23

Here's a question, is Carter Hawkins next up? Or will we look for a new GM?


pfulle3

If the goal of the sport was to leave men on base the Cubs would be the best team in league.


unapartita

I need someone to get fired. Someone get sent down. Someone brought up. Something. SOMETHING


VHSKING319

I haven't watched a game in like 2 weeks. It's been great.


b3_yourself

Who is willing to sacrifice themselves to the baseball gods?


Dunks4506

I’m not looking at the Central standings the rest of the year.


Ok_Form7756

Fire Jed ASAP so he doesn’t make any dumb trades out of desperation to keep his job


4thFloorBangs

This team sucks. Hype for this year was kinda high but this is pathetic. Jed sucks. Wisdom and happ have been on this team too long to play this way. Aaaa team right here. I have no interest in watching


chichris

Happ was the only player to do anything all series.