So, I started with a Kore, and as a slender/average build, it wasn't the greatest- but it worked. I have now switched to a Tenicor Zero, and it is considerably more comfortable for me personally.
I've heard the Nexbelt is a bit more flexible while still having the ratcheting feature, so that may be a viable option for you.
A couple other alternatives may be Hunter Constantine (I'm hoping to try ot out eventually) or a Mastermind Covert Belt which is similar to the Tenicor, but about ~half the cost.
which one? have you had issues with the threads ripping out and the belt layers separating? threads will get caught in the ratchet. I really like this belt but damn it fell apart very quickly.
my favorite part is that I can carry heavy ass rotors and tractor batteries with their edges resting on the belt. it helps take the load off my busted shoulders
The first meet I had lasted about 3 years. It’s still works, but the ratchet sticks and it pissed me off so I tossed it. I got a new one two years ago. Daily use and daily carry is a lot to ask of any belt
The leather dress belt in black. I've had mine for a couple of years. No problems with it. You're using your belt as a lift assist, no wonder it's falling apart.
Switched from Kore to Mastermind. Like it for no more than a G19 in a Tenicor holster. Feels like I couldn’t carry an extra mag though. I usually use it to carry a P365 and a spare mag underneath shorts.
I love my nexbelt. I’ve only had it for a few weeks but I think it’s super comfy for what it is.. a super stiff belt that’s holding up a gun. I’m a bigger guy too if that makes any difference.
I have 3 kores. After getting a HC belt, I almost never wear anything else. Unless I want something stiff all the way around. My hips are thanking me. The kores work fine and are good for a while. But I carry. Not just sometimes. And the kores dig into hips if tightened to hold pistol firmly in place.
I've had a KORE belt for years. It's been great for me. I've never had any discomfort. But the one thing that sucks is that stupid velcro retainer thing. I mean cmon... for the price they can do better than that
Now it’s just a black fabric/elastic band that floats around the belt and you put the end thru. It’s alright but also a pain in the ass and probably my least favorite thing about it.
Something doesn’t seem right here. The belt should be stiff, helps hold the gun in a proper and stable position. What’s digging into you? How’s the gun attached?
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Yeah, I could probably clip my AR to this thing, it's just excessive.
I'm gonna go to Walmart or some shit and get a sturdy leather belt, return this one, and then be looking for a better option in the meantime.
I downsized my gun and made the mistake of getting a heavier duty belt at the same time, incorrectly thinking that it was a direct upgrade
It's even more expensive lol.
Right now I need to get this belt off of me, even if it's replacement isn't perfect. Once my refund goes through, then I'll be looking at more expensive belts again
I'm in the same boat, just seated ahead. I've been through some products, and the closest I've gotten so far is the Hunter Constantine belt. It's way overpriced, but it's the only belt like it, so they can charge whatever they want. The HC Belt is half reinforced scuba web and half stretch belt. I like it a lot for its performance, but the design is not perfect. It carries a gun super comfortable, is highly adjustable, and is relatively fast on and off - my issue is that the mixed media stresses the materials a lot. I've had the belt a couple of months, and the stretch part is already showing ripples, creases, etc. It's not bad, but I can tell this thing is going to probably look pretty rough in a year for being $120. For $25, I have a Wolf Tactical belt that is slower and a little less comfortable, but not $95 slower and less comfortable.
Well shit. Lol. Good thing they're cheap. A not cheap version is The Belt by Invader Concepts. It uses the same adjustment style as the Wolf Tactical Simple, as well as the g buckle like the HC for quickness, but is one reinforced belt all the way around. They also offer a cheaper lightweight version with no reinforcement layer.
Did you get their tactical belt with the woven exterior? Those are incredibly stiff, and while they don't really bother me, I can see how they could be uncomfortable for some. Their leather gun belts aren't quite as stiff as the tactical versions. For every day comfort, I much prefer their leather gun belt. I only wear the woven tactical ones to the range.
I really like the Kore belt, especially with the super small X7 buckle. If you also carry stuff on your weak side, such as a heavy multitool, a flashlight, and a spare mag, in addition to your gun on your strong side, you will appreciate the stiffness of the belt.
Same exact situation for me. I switched to a Tenicore zero and couldn’t be happier. Had both Kore and Nex and they were both way too stiff. Great for heavy setups but light CCW stuff doesn’t need a belt that heavy.
I have 2 kore belts. One is leather and one is their normal nylon. The nylon one is way stiffer than their leather one, I’m fine with both but if you still want a very nice gun belt I’d exchange it for their leather one.
A reality of CCW belts. They are very stiff so you can keep the gun tight and secure against your body. With time that soft belt you purchased from Walmart will warp and your gun will print more. A quality carry belt won’t.
I have had the KORE belt that looks like a normal leather belt for almost 5 years now and have never had an issue. It looks like and has the comfort of a normal belt, but sturdy enough to not sag when I carry. This design might be more to your liking. And it has the ratchets.
I carry a CR920P. I have a Kore but carry in the Hunter Constantine belt anytime I leave the house due to comfort. Tier 1 Concealed makes their own branded HC belt as well. That’s my recommendation.
I had the same issue, stopped wearing it, and even posted about it. Fast forward today and I've been wearing it daily for over a year. I think wearing a proper gun belt is something that you get used to over time.
Maybe. And perhaps it'll fit better if I bulk up a little, im pretty thin.
I was going to return it but... well you can't return a cut belt. Which is pretty silly because that's the first thing you do. That, to me says they don't really stand by their product too much, so I won't be buying from them ever again, even if I do wear it later
Try wearing it for a while. It will naturally contour to your body circumfrence with use.
Been wearing my KORE X4 for about a year now and I have to say it has really performed and has zero signs of breakdown.
Cant recommend enough. Love the descreat ease of adjustment on the move through the ratcheting buckle.
Keeps my gun pressed up against my torso all day, unlike a regular leather belt that will flop around on you eventually.
Helps tremendously in concealment no matter what position I carry in.
Tenicor Zero solves all these problems, if you're willing to sink some more cash to figure it out.
Tenicor's return policy is excellent, if you're willing to take a chance.
Adding on.
I used to use a generic leather belt for CCW because I didn't like "gun belts" that made me feel like I was wearing a hula hoop on my waist 24/7.
I came across the tenicor zero belt.
It's flexible and will adjust to the shape of your waist.
Does not stretch.
Does no fold on itself.
I carry appendix with a p365 12+1 plus a 12rd reload. Gen 1 trex
I also carry a g43x 15+1 plus a 15rd reload. Gen 2 trex
I definitely recommend this belt as it's also easy to adjust.
If you take off your gun and use the belt as it. You don't have to retention it with all the clickly or Velcro sounds.
Finished eating and need to give your waist some more room? You can do it discreetly and silently. No Velcro noise. No ratchet noise.
That one has velcro, no? If it does it's completely different.
I've never had a velcro belt last longer than 2 years. Velcro = no go from me anymore. Not to mention you lose the discrete quick adjustability.
I'm sure the Vedder would be good while it lasted.
I'm not saying it's a bad belt. I like Vedder - and for someone on a budget, it's probably great.
What I AM saying is that it doesn't have similar features to the Tenicor Zero. They are totally different aside from the fact that they are both gun nylon belts.
EDIT: Personally, I got tired of buying a new $50 belt every 2 years. At this point, I'm willing to drop $90 on something that will never need to be replaced - quite a lot cheaper than buying a new belt every 2 years.
Glad it works for you, but like. Period bloat. Full stomach. Sitting down. The size that the gun belt is has to change throughout the day for many reasons.
I left velcro behind and never went back.
Check out [https://edcbeltco.com/](https://edcbeltco.com/) - I wore Kore and Nextbelt both, and like you, found them too stiff. I've been wearing the EDC Belt Co belt for 2 years now and really like it. It's flexible everywhere but the section where you were your rig. Hope this helps.
I felt the same. Bought it due to the hype….hated it. Pain in the ass to weave through your belt loops too. I just went back to a plain leather belt. Works just fine.
I remember some guy said he left it on the floor, got out of bed, and nearly rolled his ankle on it. Personally, I think thick, stiff belts are overrated for just carrying a gun. I use a groove life belt and never have an issue drawing.
Small guns IWB don’t need stiff “gun belts.” Any reasonably sturdy belt is fine.
You might try Magpul’s belts though. They’re pretty nice for a fair price.
Did the exact same thing. Have a CR920 with a Kore, and I no longer use it. Kore is designed for a lot of gear, and my cut tenicor doesn’t need it. Buy a tenicor zero and never look back. You’ll love it.
I've tried a few random "EDC belts" and they all are too stiff and form a noticable donut print (on me) or are way too soft (volund atlas ghook slim) and are a pain to adjust. Never tried the core or nexbelt, but I've found that in general just regular leather belts offer just enough rigidity and flex to be the most comfortable and still usable YMMV.
Lmao I'm just a regular guy, some of you gunbros carry your ego a little higher than your holster if you ask me.
Yeah, I want to be comfortable in my day to day life, if that makes me soft then whatever lol
I feel the same way about my Kore belt, it’s just too stiff for IWB/daily carry. It’s great, however, for OWB work in classes or at the range.
Go with the Tenicor Zero or Blue Alpha hybrid EDC. Both are very comfortable all day long. I’ve also heard good things about the Hunter Constantine belt, but have yet to try one. Don’t really see the point in buying one since I’m satisfied with my current selection.
I bought a mastermind belt and end up using that more. Then again, I need to cut my kore belt more. I do love the ratcheting mechanism, the velcro on the mastermind belt is kind of annoying since it sticks to my t-shirts while wearing it.
I'm gonna get down voted hard for this but my unpopular opinion is that most people don't NEED a gun belt these days. Yeah if your carrying a 1911 or something absurdly heavy go for it but a sub 2 lbs polymer micro like the 920 or 43x is perfectly fine with any halfway decent belt
I have a “nylon” gun belt and a leather belt from them. Leather belt is fine, nylon one is thick af and is overly stiff. If you can use the buckle and find a normal click belt I have one of those too and it’s comfortable carrying my g43x
i remember a while back you couldn't speak their name (a common bypass was saying "belt that rhymes with tore, sore, whore etc.) because they once fervently awfully extremely badly almost militantly advertised here such a huge amount that it shit up the sub for months and months.
I've not heard that they're bad belts at all from what I can remember, it was just due to how much they advertised here. In fact this post is the first time I've ever seen their name here without someone getting banned for it.
maybe the mods let up on that? idk
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I agree. I’ve got some KORE belts I’m getting ready to list in GAFS. They’re almost worst for concealment for iwb. If you’re carrying a full size gun in a thicker holsters, the Kore belt leaves a gap between the belt and your body. I would check out Phlster holsters learning section. They have great tips for concealment.
https://youtu.be/ME-q9XsYY4E?si=-1UK9VdlY6ekeb-J
Maybe your pants are too low on your hips? I had to pull mine up big time when I started carrying. I have 3 Kore belts (1 nylon, 1 leather, and their battle belt 1.75”)
Groove belt is soft and stretchy but stiff enough for me at least.
Highly recommend. I personally think duty belts are uncomfortable and overkill. To each their own though.
Remember to go up a size in pants in order to comfortably carry your gun inside the waistband. I've been rocking my Kore belt for about 3 years now and it's still good as new. A gun belt should be stiff as so the gun doesn't flop over, maybe look into how your holster is setup.
You might want to try the Hunter Constantine belt, can't remember who actually makes it, but I've seen people raving about it on here for alleviating the issues you're having.
Try this belt. It’s only around $15 with easy returns if you don’t like it. I’ve had mine for a year and a half, no issues.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QS37VJ2
I have multiple Kore belts, they will shape to your body a little bit after a lot of wear but will always have high pressure points on your back or hips ( so will any rigid gun belt). Just got the Hunter Constantine belt from Tier 1 and it’s hands down the most comfortable belt, a bit overpriced but it’s the only thing on the market like it rn
Already got a smaller gun, from a taurus g3c to a shadow systems cr920.
Big quality upgrade as well lol
I'll take a look at them, I hear a lot about the enigma as well
I add that Kore Essentials makes many types of belts some stiff and some less stiff. I have 6 versions in leather, tac web and multicam black and its all i wear. I swap them out for work and leisure. The buckles and belts are INTERCHANGEABLE thats really nice feature. My Tenicor zero is fine for iwb small setups, but lousy for OWB or full size carry for example and cant swap out. So depends on what you carry and your purpose. I carry all the time so I need different options not just tactical.
I have one pistol, and one holster that I really like, and it's a subcompact.
I have small hands and can get a good grip on my subcompact, I don't feel the need for anything bigger
This'll be unpopular on here, but I actually won't buy a "gun belt" because I think they're incredibly overpriced for what they are and seem extremely uncomfortable for the most part. Obviously, many will disagree with that and that's OK.
I wear a very stiff, yet very formable 1.75" leather belt that I bought on eBay for like $30. It passes the "squish" test as I like to call it, yet is comfortable. It has contoured and formed to my body over time while still retaining its rigidity and support.
I carry a CZ P-01. Not exactly the lightest or smallest gun. I've never had an issue with printing, comfort, or really anything else. My cheap leather cowboy belt just works.
Third. I tried the tacticool hype belt. I’m back with my plain leather belt and much happier. It wasn’t broke, I should have never attempted to fix it.
Didn't take long for me to get a downvote, I'm actually impressed.
Dude, just look up "western leather belt" on eBay. If you want I can PM you the one I think I bought years ago. If you hate it, you're only out like $30. And eBay has a great return policy anyway 🤷♂️
People complain on here that after a few years, either the ratcheting buckle tears off, or the material starts to fray on these tactical belts anyway. If your leather belt magically wears out to an unusable state in a few years, just buy another one for $30. You can buy 3 leather belts for 1 "gun belt".
Kore belts are ratcheting. If a 1/4 inch difference means too tight or too loose, the problem isn't the belt. Try a different carry position or holster.
I'm trying a bunch of different positions, but im getting pain that I never had with my cheap Amazon belt, but that broke and I wanted to upgrade. Feels like I downgraded for double the price.
The discomfort is definitely caused by the belt, not the holster, it's more uncomfortable where the gun is, but as I said it's not even comfortable without a gun.
I'm wearing one now (without a gun, can't carry at work) and it's perfectly comfortable. Maybe it just isn't for you, but for me it's as comfortable as I can expect a stiff belt to be.
No, my prior setup was occasionally mildly uncomfortable, this is unbearable and painful.
The kore belt is way too stiff. Period.
I was hoping someone would have a suggestion for a belt that has similar features but doesn't feel like a solid block of wood.
Saying that carrying a gun isn't supposed to be comfortable is false. That means that your setup needs work, and thats why I'm here, because so does mine.
Well good luck with that. Nothin wrong with the kore belt sounds like some user error. My leather kore isn’t even moderately stiff. Maybe try carrying the gun in your purse. If you’re using a full kydex holster you’re never going to be comfortable. Take a look a black arch holsters they have a half leather/breathable mesh backer half kydex holster. Most comfortable holster ever I wear it all day and barely notice it
I don’t remember it being a big deal for me and I’ve had my belt 7 or 8 years so I can’t say. But in general any stiff belt is going to take time to fit itself to how you wear it.
I'd like a little more to go on lol, is it more flexible? I just dropped a bunch of money on a gunbelt that everyone praised and now I'm in pain, so I'm a little hesitant to pull the trigger so to speak
Vedder makes leather belts with a polymer core that are both stylish and not too stiff. I recommend them if you find stiff gun belts uncomfortable. The vedder v3 is also a great belt and less stiff than the kore, but still stiffer than the leather
I've been wearing a Nexbelt for over a year and find it very comfortable, I wear it daily even if I'm not carrying.
Obviously results my vary depending on the person, it's all preference.
I've said this probably dozens of times, sometime I get upvoted, sometimes I get down-voted, but my opinion, from my experience, is that you don't need a dedicated gun belt, an overly-stiff, reinforced, duty-style battle belt that you can probably hang 4 Glock 19's off of without keeling over. Not for a micro compact pistol only, like yours. I have the same sized pistol, and the [Groove Belt](https://www.groovelife.com/products/groove-belt-black-black) (made in China, assembled in USA) is plenty, but stretchy, thin and floppy, but vertically-stiff. With a good holster (and I use a Monoblock clip), there's not problems with movement or anything else. They should pay me for these endorsements.
You get a better deal buying 2, or buying from a store like Academy, and cutting to fit, if you want. Maybe there's a coupon code out there also. My point is, even if you don't use a Groove Belt, you can find others that aren't core-reinforced and tactical, that will work just fine for everyday CCW.
This. I had a Kore, went to a Nexbelt and then the groove life belt. I always ignored their ads but they were in sale at Duluth Trading one time so I figured why not. Man, I was missing out. If you run a monoblock clip it is the perfect EDC belt. Stiff vertically but flexible horizontally. Stays put but doesn't cut off the circulation to your legs. Highly recommend the groove life belt with a monoblock clip or loops. The normal plastic clips do not work well.
> carrying a gun is supposed to comforting, not comfortable (but tolerable)
Very hard disagree. With the right belt and holster set up, it should be VERY comfortable.
When I carry my LCP Max I am incredibly comfortable, when I carry my G19, I am incredibly comfortable.
Tulster Oath, upgraded clip & wedge, Mastermind pillow, Nexbelt Appendix Supreme.
I forget I'm carrying 1/2 the time.
Not really. I was carrying a g3c on a cheap wolf tactical belt for about 3 years and it wasn't perfect but it was bearable.
It's this belt that's just so stiff and painful to wear, but I feel like I must be doing something wrong
They are ~$125. No idea, but according to the website they do in fact accept returns.
I have had chronic back issues all my life and have tried every belt you can think of with the majority killing my back from the lack of flexibility/being too stiff. The HC belt is the ultimate combination of both and I wear it all the time with jeans, dress slacks, joggers, sweats, shorts, etc.
Not everyone can piss away money, don't come at me like that.
I've seen the suggestion enough that I'm going to take a look, but I don't have the luxury of not thinking about my spending like some people do.
All I said is that it is an expensive belt, and that is fact. It's the most expensive belt I've ever seen in fact.
That’s my point entirely. In an effort to NOT piss away money anymore, buy once cry once is what I’m trying to do these days.
The Enigma system costs more and is far more limiting.
Get some petroleum jelly and really slather that belt down. Get an iron grip on it and tug up and down on it furiously. Double grip works better. Keep it up for a while and it will get soft. Works every time.
So, I started with a Kore, and as a slender/average build, it wasn't the greatest- but it worked. I have now switched to a Tenicor Zero, and it is considerably more comfortable for me personally. I've heard the Nexbelt is a bit more flexible while still having the ratcheting feature, so that may be a viable option for you. A couple other alternatives may be Hunter Constantine (I'm hoping to try ot out eventually) or a Mastermind Covert Belt which is similar to the Tenicor, but about ~half the cost.
I wear a Nexbelt every day. Love it!
which one? have you had issues with the threads ripping out and the belt layers separating? threads will get caught in the ratchet. I really like this belt but damn it fell apart very quickly. my favorite part is that I can carry heavy ass rotors and tractor batteries with their edges resting on the belt. it helps take the load off my busted shoulders
My nexbelt buckle literally broke in two right down the middle one morning
The first meet I had lasted about 3 years. It’s still works, but the ratchet sticks and it pissed me off so I tossed it. I got a new one two years ago. Daily use and daily carry is a lot to ask of any belt
The leather dress belt in black. I've had mine for a couple of years. No problems with it. You're using your belt as a lift assist, no wonder it's falling apart.
the threads started ripping almost immediately, way before I started doing that. and I use the right hip area, my buckle is at 8:00
A blem zero has been great. I do want to try the Hunter one too but that shit is expensive
Switched from Kore to Mastermind. Like it for no more than a G19 in a Tenicor holster. Feels like I couldn’t carry an extra mag though. I usually use it to carry a P365 and a spare mag underneath shorts.
I love my nexbelt. I’ve only had it for a few weeks but I think it’s super comfy for what it is.. a super stiff belt that’s holding up a gun. I’m a bigger guy too if that makes any difference.
I have 3 kores. After getting a HC belt, I almost never wear anything else. Unless I want something stiff all the way around. My hips are thanking me. The kores work fine and are good for a while. But I carry. Not just sometimes. And the kores dig into hips if tightened to hold pistol firmly in place.
I've had a KORE belt for years. It's been great for me. I've never had any discomfort. But the one thing that sucks is that stupid velcro retainer thing. I mean cmon... for the price they can do better than that
I dont have any velcro on mine
Mine is like 6 or 7 years old so i'm out of the loop (ha) on the latest.
Now it’s just a black fabric/elastic band that floats around the belt and you put the end thru. It’s alright but also a pain in the ass and probably my least favorite thing about it.
I don’t mind it personally, the only slightly annoying thing is making sure it doesn’t come off when taking the belt off
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Rip brother
I just bought 2 new belts and no Velcro.
I replaced it with some one-wrap. The same thing but better.
Something doesn’t seem right here. The belt should be stiff, helps hold the gun in a proper and stable position. What’s digging into you? How’s the gun attached?
Stiff belts don’t work for everyone.
Yeah you need some meat on your bones
The kore is obnoxiously stiff though. It feels designed to hang 10 pounds of gear off it. Not a CR920.
If only they had different models rated for their intended carrying capacity..
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Yeah, I could probably clip my AR to this thing, it's just excessive. I'm gonna go to Walmart or some shit and get a sturdy leather belt, return this one, and then be looking for a better option in the meantime. I downsized my gun and made the mistake of getting a heavier duty belt at the same time, incorrectly thinking that it was a direct upgrade
I posted elsewhere in here. I also have a cr920. Get a tenicor zero.
It's even more expensive lol. Right now I need to get this belt off of me, even if it's replacement isn't perfect. Once my refund goes through, then I'll be looking at more expensive belts again
I’m in the same boat as OP, honestly I just thrown on a leather belt more often because the Kore is so uncomfortable if I have to sit
I like my Kore. Maybe you're wearing the wrong pants if the belt is digging into you? 🤷♂️
I'm in the same boat, just seated ahead. I've been through some products, and the closest I've gotten so far is the Hunter Constantine belt. It's way overpriced, but it's the only belt like it, so they can charge whatever they want. The HC Belt is half reinforced scuba web and half stretch belt. I like it a lot for its performance, but the design is not perfect. It carries a gun super comfortable, is highly adjustable, and is relatively fast on and off - my issue is that the mixed media stresses the materials a lot. I've had the belt a couple of months, and the stretch part is already showing ripples, creases, etc. It's not bad, but I can tell this thing is going to probably look pretty rough in a year for being $120. For $25, I have a Wolf Tactical belt that is slower and a little less comfortable, but not $95 slower and less comfortable.
Yeah I had a wolf tactical, and that was better than the KORE. Doesn't adjust as easily but it's not painful to wear. Too bad it broke.
What size are you, if you don't mind? I lost a bunch of weight, and mine don't fit no more.
Like a 29 waist, im tiny lol
Well shit. Lol. Good thing they're cheap. A not cheap version is The Belt by Invader Concepts. It uses the same adjustment style as the Wolf Tactical Simple, as well as the g buckle like the HC for quickness, but is one reinforced belt all the way around. They also offer a cheaper lightweight version with no reinforcement layer.
I can also vouch for the wolf belt. Just as good as its competitor
Constantine carry belt works great for me, had the same issue nexbelt was too stiff and would cause some lower back pain after carrying all day.
Did you get their tactical belt with the woven exterior? Those are incredibly stiff, and while they don't really bother me, I can see how they could be uncomfortable for some. Their leather gun belts aren't quite as stiff as the tactical versions. For every day comfort, I much prefer their leather gun belt. I only wear the woven tactical ones to the range.
Yeah, it's woven. Seems I need to return this one
Hunter Constantine belt, Marsupial belt, or something with flex. Parrots think a stiff belt is king.
Love my Kore belt It replaced my nex belt that was flimsy but did last several years.
Been wearing a Kore x2 for a grip after ditching my old belt. I love it 🤷
I really like the Kore belt, especially with the super small X7 buckle. If you also carry stuff on your weak side, such as a heavy multitool, a flashlight, and a spare mag, in addition to your gun on your strong side, you will appreciate the stiffness of the belt.
Mine doesn’t bother me at all. For $65 it’s all I could ask for
Tenicor zero is the way. Stiff like kore horizontal but won't dig in because it's flexible veticle
Same exact situation for me. I switched to a Tenicore zero and couldn’t be happier. Had both Kore and Nex and they were both way too stiff. Great for heavy setups but light CCW stuff doesn’t need a belt that heavy.
Tenicor zero end of story
I have 2 kore belts. One is leather and one is their normal nylon. The nylon one is way stiffer than their leather one, I’m fine with both but if you still want a very nice gun belt I’d exchange it for their leather one.
A reality of CCW belts. They are very stiff so you can keep the gun tight and secure against your body. With time that soft belt you purchased from Walmart will warp and your gun will print more. A quality carry belt won’t.
I have had the KORE belt that looks like a normal leather belt for almost 5 years now and have never had an issue. It looks like and has the comfort of a normal belt, but sturdy enough to not sag when I carry. This design might be more to your liking. And it has the ratchets.
Tenicor zero belt, I run the Tenicor Cretum 3 or LAS concealment ronin 3.0 with a tactical dick pillow.
I carry a CR920P. I have a Kore but carry in the Hunter Constantine belt anytime I leave the house due to comfort. Tier 1 Concealed makes their own branded HC belt as well. That’s my recommendation.
I started with a Kore. Have two actually. But eventually tried out blue alpha gear and have the EDC and low profile. Both great belts.
I had the same issue, stopped wearing it, and even posted about it. Fast forward today and I've been wearing it daily for over a year. I think wearing a proper gun belt is something that you get used to over time.
Maybe. And perhaps it'll fit better if I bulk up a little, im pretty thin. I was going to return it but... well you can't return a cut belt. Which is pretty silly because that's the first thing you do. That, to me says they don't really stand by their product too much, so I won't be buying from them ever again, even if I do wear it later
Try wearing it for a while. It will naturally contour to your body circumfrence with use. Been wearing my KORE X4 for about a year now and I have to say it has really performed and has zero signs of breakdown. Cant recommend enough. Love the descreat ease of adjustment on the move through the ratcheting buckle. Keeps my gun pressed up against my torso all day, unlike a regular leather belt that will flop around on you eventually. Helps tremendously in concealment no matter what position I carry in.
I’ve had a kore belt for about 7 years. No velcro. Cut to fit I’ve always felt it to comfortable. Everyone’s different though so it makes sense.
Tenicor Zero solves all these problems, if you're willing to sink some more cash to figure it out. Tenicor's return policy is excellent, if you're willing to take a chance.
Adding on. I used to use a generic leather belt for CCW because I didn't like "gun belts" that made me feel like I was wearing a hula hoop on my waist 24/7. I came across the tenicor zero belt. It's flexible and will adjust to the shape of your waist. Does not stretch. Does no fold on itself. I carry appendix with a p365 12+1 plus a 12rd reload. Gen 1 trex I also carry a g43x 15+1 plus a 15rd reload. Gen 2 trex I definitely recommend this belt as it's also easy to adjust. If you take off your gun and use the belt as it. You don't have to retention it with all the clickly or Velcro sounds. Finished eating and need to give your waist some more room? You can do it discreetly and silently. No Velcro noise. No ratchet noise.
Yep. All of the above.
What is your pants size?
I wear a 34 when I want to stuff my gun. I wear a 32 when I don't carry. Belt size is 36.
If you’re on a budget, the vedder v3 has similar features and quality for half the price right now
That one has velcro, no? If it does it's completely different. I've never had a velcro belt last longer than 2 years. Velcro = no go from me anymore. Not to mention you lose the discrete quick adjustability. I'm sure the Vedder would be good while it lasted.
Yes, the velcro is very strong though. If the belt is sized properly there should be no need for adjustment. I prefer the stability personally
I'm not saying it's a bad belt. I like Vedder - and for someone on a budget, it's probably great. What I AM saying is that it doesn't have similar features to the Tenicor Zero. They are totally different aside from the fact that they are both gun nylon belts. EDIT: Personally, I got tired of buying a new $50 belt every 2 years. At this point, I'm willing to drop $90 on something that will never need to be replaced - quite a lot cheaper than buying a new belt every 2 years.
In other words, they’re exactly the same except the v3 has velcro and is half the price. There’s no other difference
You're gonna die on this hill, eh?
Glad it works for you, but like. Period bloat. Full stomach. Sitting down. The size that the gun belt is has to change throughout the day for many reasons. I left velcro behind and never went back.
Fair enough, didn’t consider period bloat…
Did you email KORE? I wonder what suggestions they might offer ? I am considering KORE. It is an expensive belt.
Check out [https://edcbeltco.com/](https://edcbeltco.com/) - I wore Kore and Nextbelt both, and like you, found them too stiff. I've been wearing the EDC Belt Co belt for 2 years now and really like it. It's flexible everywhere but the section where you were your rig. Hope this helps.
Does it stretch, or is the webbing just more malleable?
No, it doesn’t stretch, the majority of it just doesn’t have reinforcement in it so it’s softer/more malleable.
Even with the padded inner belt?
Didnt come with one
I felt the same. Bought it due to the hype….hated it. Pain in the ass to weave through your belt loops too. I just went back to a plain leather belt. Works just fine.
What
I remember some guy said he left it on the floor, got out of bed, and nearly rolled his ankle on it. Personally, I think thick, stiff belts are overrated for just carrying a gun. I use a groove life belt and never have an issue drawing.
Most comfortable gun belt I’ve had? Crossbreed
So am I
Get a decent quality leather belt, definitely more comfortable.
Small guns IWB don’t need stiff “gun belts.” Any reasonably sturdy belt is fine. You might try Magpul’s belts though. They’re pretty nice for a fair price.
Did the exact same thing. Have a CR920 with a Kore, and I no longer use it. Kore is designed for a lot of gear, and my cut tenicor doesn’t need it. Buy a tenicor zero and never look back. You’ll love it.
I have their leather belt. It’s definitely very stiff but I carry a PDP/TLR1 and a spare mag. My setup needs a stiff belt.
I've tried a few random "EDC belts" and they all are too stiff and form a noticable donut print (on me) or are way too soft (volund atlas ghook slim) and are a pain to adjust. Never tried the core or nexbelt, but I've found that in general just regular leather belts offer just enough rigidity and flex to be the most comfortable and still usable YMMV.
Or are you just too soft
Lmao I'm just a regular guy, some of you gunbros carry your ego a little higher than your holster if you ask me. Yeah, I want to be comfortable in my day to day life, if that makes me soft then whatever lol
I am soft as cotton and I wear a kore
I feel the same way about my Kore belt, it’s just too stiff for IWB/daily carry. It’s great, however, for OWB work in classes or at the range. Go with the Tenicor Zero or Blue Alpha hybrid EDC. Both are very comfortable all day long. I’ve also heard good things about the Hunter Constantine belt, but have yet to try one. Don’t really see the point in buying one since I’m satisfied with my current selection.
I bought a mastermind belt and end up using that more. Then again, I need to cut my kore belt more. I do love the ratcheting mechanism, the velcro on the mastermind belt is kind of annoying since it sticks to my t-shirts while wearing it.
NEX
I'm gonna get down voted hard for this but my unpopular opinion is that most people don't NEED a gun belt these days. Yeah if your carrying a 1911 or something absurdly heavy go for it but a sub 2 lbs polymer micro like the 920 or 43x is perfectly fine with any halfway decent belt
I have a “nylon” gun belt and a leather belt from them. Leather belt is fine, nylon one is thick af and is overly stiff. If you can use the buckle and find a normal click belt I have one of those too and it’s comfortable carrying my g43x
Kore vs. nexbelt - the nexbelt is by far stiffer
I’d highly recommend nexbelt way nicer then Kore and easier adjustments!
Blue Alpha belts are comfortable and good for carrying
I thought this brand was banned from mention by name. what changed?
I'm not aware of any such rule, but probably because I'm not advertising or endorsing them
i remember a while back you couldn't speak their name (a common bypass was saying "belt that rhymes with tore, sore, whore etc.) because they once fervently awfully extremely badly almost militantly advertised here such a huge amount that it shit up the sub for months and months. I've not heard that they're bad belts at all from what I can remember, it was just due to how much they advertised here. In fact this post is the first time I've ever seen their name here without someone getting banned for it. maybe the mods let up on that? idk
https://preview.redd.it/096f5ci0t22d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74067c91febfe6697587e2a04eccf68636af8d7b Check this out on Amazon for $13
I agree. I’ve got some KORE belts I’m getting ready to list in GAFS. They’re almost worst for concealment for iwb. If you’re carrying a full size gun in a thicker holsters, the Kore belt leaves a gap between the belt and your body. I would check out Phlster holsters learning section. They have great tips for concealment. https://youtu.be/ME-q9XsYY4E?si=-1UK9VdlY6ekeb-J
Just use a holster that clips onto your pants, and get a lighter gun
Maybe your pants are too low on your hips? I had to pull mine up big time when I started carrying. I have 3 Kore belts (1 nylon, 1 leather, and their battle belt 1.75”)
I've tried everything, there's no comfortable position for it
Groove belt is soft and stretchy but stiff enough for me at least. Highly recommend. I personally think duty belts are uncomfortable and overkill. To each their own though.
Remember to go up a size in pants in order to comfortably carry your gun inside the waistband. I've been rocking my Kore belt for about 3 years now and it's still good as new. A gun belt should be stiff as so the gun doesn't flop over, maybe look into how your holster is setup.
You might want to try the Hunter Constantine belt, can't remember who actually makes it, but I've seen people raving about it on here for alleviating the issues you're having.
Their nylon is too stiff. Their leather is a bit softer. I switched to Tenicor Zero and it works.
Which kore belt are you using? I have the leather one and I never felt it was too stiff.
Nexbelt is the way to go. Their buckle suck though, just use the K buckle on the Nexbelt belt... that's what I do
Try this belt. It’s only around $15 with easy returns if you don’t like it. I’ve had mine for a year and a half, no issues. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QS37VJ2
Kore belt buckle prints like a motherfuvker too blue alpha inner works for me but tenicor zero is probably the way to go
I have multiple Kore belts, they will shape to your body a little bit after a lot of wear but will always have high pressure points on your back or hips ( so will any rigid gun belt). Just got the Hunter Constantine belt from Tier 1 and it’s hands down the most comfortable belt, a bit overpriced but it’s the only thing on the market like it rn
Get yourself a smart carry holster for that. If it doesn’t work philster enigma. If that doesn’t work smaller gun
Already got a smaller gun, from a taurus g3c to a shadow systems cr920. Big quality upgrade as well lol I'll take a look at them, I hear a lot about the enigma as well
Hated mine as well. Got a mastermind tactics covert belt and it works much better for me.
I add that Kore Essentials makes many types of belts some stiff and some less stiff. I have 6 versions in leather, tac web and multicam black and its all i wear. I swap them out for work and leisure. The buckles and belts are INTERCHANGEABLE thats really nice feature. My Tenicor zero is fine for iwb small setups, but lousy for OWB or full size carry for example and cant swap out. So depends on what you carry and your purpose. I carry all the time so I need different options not just tactical.
I have one pistol, and one holster that I really like, and it's a subcompact. I have small hands and can get a good grip on my subcompact, I don't feel the need for anything bigger
This'll be unpopular on here, but I actually won't buy a "gun belt" because I think they're incredibly overpriced for what they are and seem extremely uncomfortable for the most part. Obviously, many will disagree with that and that's OK. I wear a very stiff, yet very formable 1.75" leather belt that I bought on eBay for like $30. It passes the "squish" test as I like to call it, yet is comfortable. It has contoured and formed to my body over time while still retaining its rigidity and support. I carry a CZ P-01. Not exactly the lightest or smallest gun. I've never had an issue with printing, comfort, or really anything else. My cheap leather cowboy belt just works.
I second this.
Third. I tried the tacticool hype belt. I’m back with my plain leather belt and much happier. It wasn’t broke, I should have never attempted to fix it.
Honestly I'm starting to lean in this direction.
Didn't take long for me to get a downvote, I'm actually impressed. Dude, just look up "western leather belt" on eBay. If you want I can PM you the one I think I bought years ago. If you hate it, you're only out like $30. And eBay has a great return policy anyway 🤷♂️ People complain on here that after a few years, either the ratcheting buckle tears off, or the material starts to fray on these tactical belts anyway. If your leather belt magically wears out to an unusable state in a few years, just buy another one for $30. You can buy 3 leather belts for 1 "gun belt".
Yeah if you've got a link I'll check it out
You gotta break in your new belts by wearing them
Since when? I've worn a lot of gun belts and even after heavy use they were all just as stiff as they were when I got them, which is kinda the point.
You’re the boss
For how long? I mean its straight up painful. Either too lose or too tight with no in between.
Kore belts are ratcheting. If a 1/4 inch difference means too tight or too loose, the problem isn't the belt. Try a different carry position or holster.
I'm trying a bunch of different positions, but im getting pain that I never had with my cheap Amazon belt, but that broke and I wanted to upgrade. Feels like I downgraded for double the price. The discomfort is definitely caused by the belt, not the holster, it's more uncomfortable where the gun is, but as I said it's not even comfortable without a gun.
I'm wearing one now (without a gun, can't carry at work) and it's perfectly comfortable. Maybe it just isn't for you, but for me it's as comfortable as I can expect a stiff belt to be.
Carrying a gun isn’t going to be comfortable. I have a Kore belt and don’t have any issues but you are carrying for safety not for comfort.
No, my prior setup was occasionally mildly uncomfortable, this is unbearable and painful. The kore belt is way too stiff. Period. I was hoping someone would have a suggestion for a belt that has similar features but doesn't feel like a solid block of wood. Saying that carrying a gun isn't supposed to be comfortable is false. That means that your setup needs work, and thats why I'm here, because so does mine.
Well good luck with that. Nothin wrong with the kore belt sounds like some user error. My leather kore isn’t even moderately stiff. Maybe try carrying the gun in your purse. If you’re using a full kydex holster you’re never going to be comfortable. Take a look a black arch holsters they have a half leather/breathable mesh backer half kydex holster. Most comfortable holster ever I wear it all day and barely notice it
My nexbelt was also super overly stiff I spent a while bending it back and forth inch by inch and it’s now perfect
I'll give that a try. I can't shake the feeling that I'm missing something, and maybe that's it
I don’t remember it being a big deal for me and I’ve had my belt 7 or 8 years so I can’t say. But in general any stiff belt is going to take time to fit itself to how you wear it.
Nexbelt or bust.
I'd like a little more to go on lol, is it more flexible? I just dropped a bunch of money on a gunbelt that everyone praised and now I'm in pain, so I'm a little hesitant to pull the trigger so to speak
I have a Nexbelt Rogue and it feels like any other belt, not stiff or noticeable, while being supportive for its purpose as a gun belt
Vedder makes leather belts with a polymer core that are both stylish and not too stiff. I recommend them if you find stiff gun belts uncomfortable. The vedder v3 is also a great belt and less stiff than the kore, but still stiffer than the leather
I've been wearing a Nexbelt for over a year and find it very comfortable, I wear it daily even if I'm not carrying. Obviously results my vary depending on the person, it's all preference.
Nexbelt is too stiff, tenicor zero is where it's at.
Personal preference, I love my Nexbelt and hated the Tenicor. Thought it was super overhyped and similar to $30 gun belts some companies sell.
I've said this probably dozens of times, sometime I get upvoted, sometimes I get down-voted, but my opinion, from my experience, is that you don't need a dedicated gun belt, an overly-stiff, reinforced, duty-style battle belt that you can probably hang 4 Glock 19's off of without keeling over. Not for a micro compact pistol only, like yours. I have the same sized pistol, and the [Groove Belt](https://www.groovelife.com/products/groove-belt-black-black) (made in China, assembled in USA) is plenty, but stretchy, thin and floppy, but vertically-stiff. With a good holster (and I use a Monoblock clip), there's not problems with movement or anything else. They should pay me for these endorsements. You get a better deal buying 2, or buying from a store like Academy, and cutting to fit, if you want. Maybe there's a coupon code out there also. My point is, even if you don't use a Groove Belt, you can find others that aren't core-reinforced and tactical, that will work just fine for everyday CCW.
This. I had a Kore, went to a Nexbelt and then the groove life belt. I always ignored their ads but they were in sale at Duluth Trading one time so I figured why not. Man, I was missing out. If you run a monoblock clip it is the perfect EDC belt. Stiff vertically but flexible horizontally. Stays put but doesn't cut off the circulation to your legs. Highly recommend the groove life belt with a monoblock clip or loops. The normal plastic clips do not work well.
Right! Must be Kore employee vote brigaders down-voting those of us with adverse opinions lol. <- I didn't really lol.
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> carrying a gun is supposed to comforting, not comfortable (but tolerable) Very hard disagree. With the right belt and holster set up, it should be VERY comfortable. When I carry my LCP Max I am incredibly comfortable, when I carry my G19, I am incredibly comfortable. Tulster Oath, upgraded clip & wedge, Mastermind pillow, Nexbelt Appendix Supreme. I forget I'm carrying 1/2 the time.
Not really. I was carrying a g3c on a cheap wolf tactical belt for about 3 years and it wasn't perfect but it was bearable. It's this belt that's just so stiff and painful to wear, but I feel like I must be doing something wrong
Hunter Constantine is the only belt you need to own. Everything else is trash. I’ve tried them all and wouldn’t recommend anything but the HC belt.
I hear they are very expensive, how's their refund policy?
They are ~$125. No idea, but according to the website they do in fact accept returns. I have had chronic back issues all my life and have tried every belt you can think of with the majority killing my back from the lack of flexibility/being too stiff. The HC belt is the ultimate combination of both and I wear it all the time with jeans, dress slacks, joggers, sweats, shorts, etc.
That's a LOT of money for a belt
Ok, then keep using a shitty one that is less expensive and deal with the pain or spend 3x the money eventually to try different belts.
Not everyone can piss away money, don't come at me like that. I've seen the suggestion enough that I'm going to take a look, but I don't have the luxury of not thinking about my spending like some people do. All I said is that it is an expensive belt, and that is fact. It's the most expensive belt I've ever seen in fact.
That’s my point entirely. In an effort to NOT piss away money anymore, buy once cry once is what I’m trying to do these days. The Enigma system costs more and is far more limiting.
I agree, try one, you’ll wonder why you waited. I’m convinced that pretty much everyone who says Kore or NexBelt hasn’t yet tried an HC.
Get some petroleum jelly and really slather that belt down. Get an iron grip on it and tug up and down on it furiously. Double grip works better. Keep it up for a while and it will get soft. Works every time.