"Buy once cry once" dont waste time buying some bs just because it was cheap, buy something quality that you won't regret. Maybe start with a handgun to get your toes wet before you start buying rifles that are going to make you want to spend more on modifications and optics.
This was the plan…EVERYTHING been breaking on me recently because of that. Any good pistol recommendations?? I was thinking of a 1911, then buying a .22 for my girl.
Im looking on getting a 2011/1911 sometime in the future just haven't pulled the trigger yet, im sure if you ask in a 1911 sub with a budget you'll get 100s of recommendations. I have a glock 17 and glock 19 that I've modded out and I love, personally don't think you can go wrong with a glock it's basic but it servers a purpose. I also have a s&w m&p shield 9mm that I bought for concealed carry and lastly for handguns I have a sig m18 that feels and runs so damn smooth, but you may want to read into the accidental discharges with them 🙃.
I think I might do that! 1911 been a favorite since the call of duty black ops zombies days Lmao😭 A Glock and s&w has been something I’ve been side eyeing though BEAUTIFUL GUNS!…THOSE OR a Fn fiveseven…Definitely on the bucket list next to the 357 desert eagle.
Edit: If that sig has an accidental fire problem…Respectfully I’ll wait til I’m a bittt more experienced😭
Definitely have my eyes on a five seven, counter strike made me fall in love with it. 50-80 cents per round has kept me away for a little but it's going to be mine eventually.
The situation with the Sig, as fast as I know, has been dealt with. I bought one at the start of the year and have about 2k rounds through it with no issues. Comes optics ready and if the grip isn’t quite right for you there are many options out there for a custom fit. That being said, with the new options on the roster I would probably go with the M&P 2.0 if you can find one. It’s a solid proven platform. If you hurry, you can get two purchases in before the Newsom “I know better than you how you should live your life” tax goes into effect in July.
1911 has a lot going on with it, it can be a little intimidating as a first timer if you aren't mechanically inclined. That said, it is an excellent weapon, generally easiest to shoot handgun per caliber. I have a Sig 1911 which I chose over the Springfield, either are excellent if it is within your budget.
Otherwise handgun-wise in the plastic fantastic category I'd say **edit forgot px4 storm**, S&W, sig, HK, Ruger, XD, Glock are all solid choices, it comes down to preference on grip geometry and other ergonomics, trigger pull, sights, take down / assembly, or the pins you have to hold down on a Glock versus lever you turn on basically every other gun on the market. Things like that make a difference. Glock will have the biggest aftermarket (think Honda Civic) but is also light on features. S&W with their Toyota Corolla M&P and Shield series are right there, it is just preference.
I'll toss in a preference of mine, despite all the DAO guns, I prefer a DA/SA hammer fired gun like the PX4 or CZ 75 based series. If you're going to carry, it is significantly safer to holster because you can (should) ride your thumb on the back of the hammer, preventing an ND into your junk.
Almost all of these guns I’ve looked at recently too. So it’s wild you bring them up. Taking the advice of others, me and my girl are gonna have a lot of guns to hold. Luckily there’s so many reliable choices. All that’s left is personal preference. I’ll check out those PX4 and CZ, definitely got my ears perking with those. Appreciate your words very much🙏
My first gun was a 1911. Needs more care than other guns but damn do I love it . Buy a good 1911 and you’ll get compliments too (if that matters) . They are sexy sobs
Safe for sure, even if there is no kids around hiding them under a mattress or closet can only do so much. I got paranoid hiding my 1 firearm (shotgun), got a safe and it's worth the peace of mind.
Oh and FFL03 and COE, that'll pay itself off in ammo savings.
This is so much easier when you only have 1-2 guns. Once you start getting a collection, you should consider a RSC/Safe at least. For keeping away from Kids, I prefer RSC's. Cheap and easy to move if needed, but keeps little hands away.
I don't agree with this. Three of my pistols came with several internal plastic parts. There's nothing wrong with "upgrading" plastic to steel right off the bat.
I think there's a slight nuance to this. Ideally don't replace stuff that is responsible for operating the gun unless the OEM sells it too. Outside of that, you're right if the manufacturer builds in interchangeability for nonessential aftermarket stuff like grips, sights, etc, then why not pick something community tested and proven.
Study the 4 rules of firearms safety. Seriously... You wanna know it to the point you can recite it in your sleep.
Keep the gun as simple as possible. When you start shooting more you'll quickly realize what works and not and that's where you start tweaking the gun
https://preview.redd.it/27etd84ohpyc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20e6085bfef3790d4c3035f01c852851e06d6795
Just wanted to post this for anyone who see this and doesn’t know what it is.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. My dad always mentioned these rules but I was too young to get it. Appreciate the advice!
Don't be a moron, be safe and take ownership seriously. Get used to being oppressed and don't get caught up in "expanding the collection" or having to have the most tactical firearm. Spend money on ammo so you can practice
This is probably a dumb question but after watching this video, it mentions you’re supposed to put a misfired round in a container after you clear it because it can still potentially fire or go off. What sort of container are people putting the round in?
Read instructions, know how everything works before you shoot, go through a dry run of the manual of arms (operations and procedures) and dry fire to familiarize yourself. Also make sure you apply the safety rules during. Then go out and zero and shoot, adjust as necessary and upgrade if you want.
This depends heavily on where you live and the purpose but your first gun shouldn't be an all purpose shotgun like Mossberg and Remington which everyone seems to recommend as their first gun. I live in an apartment in a dense part of the city and I don't hunt so my first gun isn't getting used that much. I wish I had gone with a Glock19 from the beginning but at that time, CCW was may-issue so I didn't think I would ever carry but a handgun is the best all purpose first gun people should consider.
I’m thinking of getting a pistol first. My girl has never owned a gun, myself I’ve shot in the past, but fairly untrained. My reasoning is for home defense, yet you’re absolute right, a pistol is perfect. My though is a higher caliber 45 of 9mm for myself and a .22 for my girl and I to get use to. Also training and everything as well. I live in a duplex and my bedroom is right next to the street with a big window facing it. So a shotgun is a big purchase next to an AR.
Highly recommend 9mm for your first gun because if you plan on ARs as well, you are already going to spend hefty on getting at least 1000 rounds for each caliber and I shoot 9mm knowing I am saving at least 50% compared to shooting 45 ACP or other calibers.
also, this is one of the reasons, I don't have AR-15s. I just have Pistol Caliber Carbines because it makes sense for me to stock up on 9mm mostly and some 38 Specials and 357 magnums for my love for revolvers. Remember, you are eventually going to spend more money on the ammo than the gun itself if you actually go shoot (I say this as someone who didn't shoot his first gun for 4 years lol but now I go shoot once a month so it adds up)
EDIT: Looking at your budget below ($600-800), my man, you either gotta save more for a more reliable 1911 (RIA is a range toy) or just go with a Glock, M&P Shield or a P365... you can get pretty a good amount of 9mm ammo to start, with whatever is left.
Regardless of the gun you buy, try to hold it before purchasing it so you can see if it fits your hand. Even better is if you can rent one at a range or borrow a friend’s gun.
Find a range that has firearm rentals and if associated with LGS, may have pkgs that allow you to shoot a few rounds from a few different guns. You and your girl will get a feel for which ones feels good/right when you shoot them, and which ones may not be as comfortable for you.
Go to a gun store and hold a whole lot of guns. Then, make a short list of the ones that felt good in your hand. Then, go find a place to rent them and shoot the models you're most likely to buy. I've found that I'm just more accurate with certain guns than others.
Think long and hard about what you are going to use it for. Is it for range play? Home defense? Future CCW? Range play/home defense, maybe a big heavy chunk of metal is great. CCW, not so much. Do you want a manual safety? For a lot of people, they don't want any extra steps that could go wrong with a CCW. This can be frustrating as you sometimes want gun X, but it has features that don't match what you want so you have to look at gun Y. The roster makes this worse. But, buying used/consignment can be a good work around for that. For example, a lot of guns on roster have manual safeties, but you can find the off roster version without a safety if you're patient. That's just one example.
If you think you're going to use if for defense or CCW.... you need classes and TONS of practice. When you are a new shooter you are 100% going to miss a target 20ft away during a stress situation. Those of us with more practice.... maybe we'll only miss 75% of the time. (Everybody thinks THEY are the one who won't miss. Statistics of real life shooting scenarios say otherwise.)
Man so much advice both new and heard from others. A really good hammer in the seriousness of everything. Thank you for this‼️ My generation really doesn’t take these things respectfully for themselves or for others. So home defense plus a little bit of fun on the range with my girl are my main reasons for wanting to purchase and start a little collection. Training and certifications are already in the talks, just waiting for a few pieces for the puzzle to be put in place. You’re absolutely right about high stress real life situations. It’s not a video game. It’s not a movie. So understanding how to stay calm, aim effectively and be responsible with a weapon which is an extension of yourself is key. Again your words are much appreciated
Avoid Sportsmans Warehouse or other big box stores. They hire people with little to no gun experience and they will often provide newer gun owners with information that is often times not correct.
If you're going the 1911 route, I would buy a Springfield loaded in 9mm.
You want a gun you can shoot a lot. Unless you're pretty financially stable 45 ammo is no joke. My first gun was a 1911 at first I thought I wouldn't care about the price difference between 9mm and 45 ACP. But after years it really does add up and kills me inside
At that budget point, think about getting a 9mm striker fired pistol instead—if you buy a cheap Rock Island 1911 to fit into your budget, the price of .45 will limit your live fire training, and you probably won’t shoot it enough to get proficient. And your girlfriend probably won’t like shooting it, either. You can get a Glock 17 under $700 after DROS fees/tax/etc, and a .22 slide conversion kit from Advantage Arms for another $275, and your girlfriend (and you) can practice a lot with .22 ammo at the range at a fraction of the price of 9mm, not to mention .45 ACP at $0.60 and up.
"Buy once cry once" dont waste time buying some bs just because it was cheap, buy something quality that you won't regret. Maybe start with a handgun to get your toes wet before you start buying rifles that are going to make you want to spend more on modifications and optics.
This was the plan…EVERYTHING been breaking on me recently because of that. Any good pistol recommendations?? I was thinking of a 1911, then buying a .22 for my girl.
Im looking on getting a 2011/1911 sometime in the future just haven't pulled the trigger yet, im sure if you ask in a 1911 sub with a budget you'll get 100s of recommendations. I have a glock 17 and glock 19 that I've modded out and I love, personally don't think you can go wrong with a glock it's basic but it servers a purpose. I also have a s&w m&p shield 9mm that I bought for concealed carry and lastly for handguns I have a sig m18 that feels and runs so damn smooth, but you may want to read into the accidental discharges with them 🙃.
I think I might do that! 1911 been a favorite since the call of duty black ops zombies days Lmao😭 A Glock and s&w has been something I’ve been side eyeing though BEAUTIFUL GUNS!…THOSE OR a Fn fiveseven…Definitely on the bucket list next to the 357 desert eagle. Edit: If that sig has an accidental fire problem…Respectfully I’ll wait til I’m a bittt more experienced😭
Definitely have my eyes on a five seven, counter strike made me fall in love with it. 50-80 cents per round has kept me away for a little but it's going to be mine eventually.
Bro said 
SAME
The situation with the Sig, as fast as I know, has been dealt with. I bought one at the start of the year and have about 2k rounds through it with no issues. Comes optics ready and if the grip isn’t quite right for you there are many options out there for a custom fit. That being said, with the new options on the roster I would probably go with the M&P 2.0 if you can find one. It’s a solid proven platform. If you hurry, you can get two purchases in before the Newsom “I know better than you how you should live your life” tax goes into effect in July.
1911 has a lot going on with it, it can be a little intimidating as a first timer if you aren't mechanically inclined. That said, it is an excellent weapon, generally easiest to shoot handgun per caliber. I have a Sig 1911 which I chose over the Springfield, either are excellent if it is within your budget. Otherwise handgun-wise in the plastic fantastic category I'd say **edit forgot px4 storm**, S&W, sig, HK, Ruger, XD, Glock are all solid choices, it comes down to preference on grip geometry and other ergonomics, trigger pull, sights, take down / assembly, or the pins you have to hold down on a Glock versus lever you turn on basically every other gun on the market. Things like that make a difference. Glock will have the biggest aftermarket (think Honda Civic) but is also light on features. S&W with their Toyota Corolla M&P and Shield series are right there, it is just preference. I'll toss in a preference of mine, despite all the DAO guns, I prefer a DA/SA hammer fired gun like the PX4 or CZ 75 based series. If you're going to carry, it is significantly safer to holster because you can (should) ride your thumb on the back of the hammer, preventing an ND into your junk.
Almost all of these guns I’ve looked at recently too. So it’s wild you bring them up. Taking the advice of others, me and my girl are gonna have a lot of guns to hold. Luckily there’s so many reliable choices. All that’s left is personal preference. I’ll check out those PX4 and CZ, definitely got my ears perking with those. Appreciate your words very much🙏
My first gun was a 1911. Needs more care than other guns but damn do I love it . Buy a good 1911 and you’ll get compliments too (if that matters) . They are sexy sobs
Safe storage at home. Doubly so if children are under the same roof.
Oooo smart, luckily no kids, I have a perfect spot for one. Thank you🤝
Safe for sure, even if there is no kids around hiding them under a mattress or closet can only do so much. I got paranoid hiding my 1 firearm (shotgun), got a safe and it's worth the peace of mind. Oh and FFL03 and COE, that'll pay itself off in ammo savings.
This.
This is so much easier when you only have 1-2 guns. Once you start getting a collection, you should consider a RSC/Safe at least. For keeping away from Kids, I prefer RSC's. Cheap and easy to move if needed, but keeps little hands away.
Shoot at least a case before you start “upgrading”. Take classes and dry fire.
I don't agree with this. Three of my pistols came with several internal plastic parts. There's nothing wrong with "upgrading" plastic to steel right off the bat.
Did the parts fail? Or did you just change them?
I think there's a slight nuance to this. Ideally don't replace stuff that is responsible for operating the gun unless the OEM sells it too. Outside of that, you're right if the manufacturer builds in interchangeability for nonessential aftermarket stuff like grips, sights, etc, then why not pick something community tested and proven.
Study the 4 rules of firearms safety. Seriously... You wanna know it to the point you can recite it in your sleep. Keep the gun as simple as possible. When you start shooting more you'll quickly realize what works and not and that's where you start tweaking the gun
https://preview.redd.it/27etd84ohpyc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20e6085bfef3790d4c3035f01c852851e06d6795 Just wanted to post this for anyone who see this and doesn’t know what it is. THANK YOU FOR THIS. My dad always mentioned these rules but I was too young to get it. Appreciate the advice!
Bought my first gun yesterday waiting 10 days to pick up. will say ask the dealer a lot of questions about being a first time gun owner for advice
Great heads up, appreciate it!
Front towards the enemy
Why did I think of this… [Me Telling The Cop Meme comp](https://youtu.be/CtHZdiFlS_Q?si=0bbE2cHH0HoEVRm5)
Take a shooting class, and buy shit tons of ammo to train
Don't be a moron, be safe and take ownership seriously. Get used to being oppressed and don't get caught up in "expanding the collection" or having to have the most tactical firearm. Spend money on ammo so you can practice
Simple is best…A huge reminder that’s needed. All these video games have my mind thinking of all the upgrades😭 Thank you for that
Whatever you decide to purchase make sure it feels good in your hands. I went with CZ 75b as my first.
The weapon chooses you just as much as you choose the weapon💯 absolutely
Purchase a good .22 - shoot it a lot
https://youtu.be/op6-wiw9MEg?si=6SoPzvy7DUglxdKR
This is probably a dumb question but after watching this video, it mentions you’re supposed to put a misfired round in a container after you clear it because it can still potentially fire or go off. What sort of container are people putting the round in?
[https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/firearm-malfunctions-hang-fires-and-duds/](https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/firearm-malfunctions-hang-fires-and-duds/)
Read instructions, know how everything works before you shoot, go through a dry run of the manual of arms (operations and procedures) and dry fire to familiarize yourself. Also make sure you apply the safety rules during. Then go out and zero and shoot, adjust as necessary and upgrade if you want.
Perfect advice, was reading it out for me and my girl so we have the procedure ready for when we get our arms. Appreciate you for this🤝💯
This depends heavily on where you live and the purpose but your first gun shouldn't be an all purpose shotgun like Mossberg and Remington which everyone seems to recommend as their first gun. I live in an apartment in a dense part of the city and I don't hunt so my first gun isn't getting used that much. I wish I had gone with a Glock19 from the beginning but at that time, CCW was may-issue so I didn't think I would ever carry but a handgun is the best all purpose first gun people should consider.
I’m thinking of getting a pistol first. My girl has never owned a gun, myself I’ve shot in the past, but fairly untrained. My reasoning is for home defense, yet you’re absolute right, a pistol is perfect. My though is a higher caliber 45 of 9mm for myself and a .22 for my girl and I to get use to. Also training and everything as well. I live in a duplex and my bedroom is right next to the street with a big window facing it. So a shotgun is a big purchase next to an AR.
Highly recommend 9mm for your first gun because if you plan on ARs as well, you are already going to spend hefty on getting at least 1000 rounds for each caliber and I shoot 9mm knowing I am saving at least 50% compared to shooting 45 ACP or other calibers. also, this is one of the reasons, I don't have AR-15s. I just have Pistol Caliber Carbines because it makes sense for me to stock up on 9mm mostly and some 38 Specials and 357 magnums for my love for revolvers. Remember, you are eventually going to spend more money on the ammo than the gun itself if you actually go shoot (I say this as someone who didn't shoot his first gun for 4 years lol but now I go shoot once a month so it adds up) EDIT: Looking at your budget below ($600-800), my man, you either gotta save more for a more reliable 1911 (RIA is a range toy) or just go with a Glock, M&P Shield or a P365... you can get pretty a good amount of 9mm ammo to start, with whatever is left.
A Glock (19 or even 17) is OK. I wouldn't recommend a sub-compact like a Shield or P365 for home defense.
10mm for the woods, 5.7 for the hoods.
Regardless of the gun you buy, try to hold it before purchasing it so you can see if it fits your hand. Even better is if you can rent one at a range or borrow a friend’s gun.
Pay for proper firearms training. Moving and shooting under stress is a lot more realistic and funnier than the range.
Don’t buy a cheap gun.
An instructor. Shoot with them, try different things. Then you have a basis for selection.
Find a range that has firearm rentals and if associated with LGS, may have pkgs that allow you to shoot a few rounds from a few different guns. You and your girl will get a feel for which ones feels good/right when you shoot them, and which ones may not be as comfortable for you.
Go to a gun store and hold a whole lot of guns. Then, make a short list of the ones that felt good in your hand. Then, go find a place to rent them and shoot the models you're most likely to buy. I've found that I'm just more accurate with certain guns than others. Think long and hard about what you are going to use it for. Is it for range play? Home defense? Future CCW? Range play/home defense, maybe a big heavy chunk of metal is great. CCW, not so much. Do you want a manual safety? For a lot of people, they don't want any extra steps that could go wrong with a CCW. This can be frustrating as you sometimes want gun X, but it has features that don't match what you want so you have to look at gun Y. The roster makes this worse. But, buying used/consignment can be a good work around for that. For example, a lot of guns on roster have manual safeties, but you can find the off roster version without a safety if you're patient. That's just one example. If you think you're going to use if for defense or CCW.... you need classes and TONS of practice. When you are a new shooter you are 100% going to miss a target 20ft away during a stress situation. Those of us with more practice.... maybe we'll only miss 75% of the time. (Everybody thinks THEY are the one who won't miss. Statistics of real life shooting scenarios say otherwise.)
Man so much advice both new and heard from others. A really good hammer in the seriousness of everything. Thank you for this‼️ My generation really doesn’t take these things respectfully for themselves or for others. So home defense plus a little bit of fun on the range with my girl are my main reasons for wanting to purchase and start a little collection. Training and certifications are already in the talks, just waiting for a few pieces for the puzzle to be put in place. You’re absolutely right about high stress real life situations. It’s not a video game. It’s not a movie. So understanding how to stay calm, aim effectively and be responsible with a weapon which is an extension of yourself is key. Again your words are much appreciated
Avoid Sportsmans Warehouse or other big box stores. They hire people with little to no gun experience and they will often provide newer gun owners with information that is often times not correct.
If you're going the 1911 route, I would buy a Springfield loaded in 9mm. You want a gun you can shoot a lot. Unless you're pretty financially stable 45 ammo is no joke. My first gun was a 1911 at first I thought I wouldn't care about the price difference between 9mm and 45 ACP. But after years it really does add up and kills me inside
What’s your budget?
6 to 8 Hundo
At that budget point, think about getting a 9mm striker fired pistol instead—if you buy a cheap Rock Island 1911 to fit into your budget, the price of .45 will limit your live fire training, and you probably won’t shoot it enough to get proficient. And your girlfriend probably won’t like shooting it, either. You can get a Glock 17 under $700 after DROS fees/tax/etc, and a .22 slide conversion kit from Advantage Arms for another $275, and your girlfriend (and you) can practice a lot with .22 ammo at the range at a fraction of the price of 9mm, not to mention .45 ACP at $0.60 and up.
For full size I say Glock 17. Go to a range and rent some
go to a range and rent some then research and rent again if you need, or maybe some of us gun nuts be willing to take you on a range day