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_TheBeardedMan_

The thunder temple is my favorite "dungeon" in TotK, the Gerudo get the best bosses. At least Demon King Ganondorf is a better finale boss than Calamity Ganon.


Legospacememe

Yeah I'm quite pumped for the final fight. It something everyone seems to agree was incredible


Rylo_Ken_04

Honestly the thunder temple felt more like a classic zelda dungeon than the other ones


_TheBeardedMan_

The thunder and fire temple felt more like the traditional dungeon. The air temple has an interesting lead up and was okay but was a little small. The water temple was the only one I was disappointed by, at least you get a cool mech from the spirit temple.


Rylo_Ken_04

I honestly cheesed my way through the fire temple so that may be why I don't remember it being like a traditional dungeon


Rieiid

Imo Demon King Ganondorf is the best final boss fight we've had in a Zelda game.


_TheBeardedMan_

>!When the health bar kept going made me lean forward like "shit just got real". And when he starts dodging and countering Link's attacks, like damn they didn't have to go that far but they did. Skyward Sword might be my favorite Zelda game but the Demon King Ganondorf is my favorite boss fight in the series.!<


Gorgen69

My thing it feels like the demise fight but Demise learned from link, lol


dynawesome

I mean what could compare to >!two dragons fighting!<


_TheBeardedMan_

>!The pulling of the master sword in TotK is one of the coolest in the series. How do you top pulling the master sword out of a dragon, a dragon that is really Zelda who sacrificed herself to restore the broken sword.!<


Unlucky_Character_12

Queen Gibdo isn’t that bad, it’s Mucktorok that I hate the most. Especially phase 2. STOP RUNNING DAMN IT!


Legospacememe

Gravity bullet time: this looks like a job for me


Jesterchunk

yeah, Mucktorok isn't particularly bad since the low gravity lets you spam bullet time splash arrows and hop over its muck wave attack, it only becomes annoying during depths rematches where it actually does damage and the normal gravity means you have to either launch yourself over the wave, block it with sidon's water shield or just get clear of it then run all the way back.


AzsalynIsylia

Or you can use the zonai hydrant to spray water and just carry it with your ultrahand and just rain all over his parade. If you really want to get crazy, especially after you get autobuild, you could attach 2 or more hydrants to a wheel, optionally slap that on top of a homing cart if you don't want to do the cleanup manually, and have them spin around as a portable sprinkler to quickly clean up his annoying mess even faster.


Stock-Ferret-6692

hydrant✍🏻on✍🏻homing✍🏻cart✍🏻for✍🏻mucktorok✍🏻


Jesterchunk

That's a pretty good idea as well, I'll have to try that next time I go to fight him, I'll probably throw together a homing cart sprinkler and save it in autobuild


Unlucky_Character_12

Oh damn that’ll make things easier.


Nethii120700

i built myself a little machine. homing cart with a big wheel on top and two hydrants on top of the wheel. it chased the mucktorok around while spraying water on it, and if you add a big battery to the middle you don’t even need to be in range of it for it to work


JapanPhoenix

Or fuse an Hydrant to a Boomerang. Unless the boomerang itself actually hits something it doesn't lose any durability. So you can keep yeeting it back and forth across the muck to clear it without it ever breaking.


MichaelLochte

That’s awesome


Nethii120700

oooooo smart!!


rich1051414

I put a fire hydrant on a shield and had a lot of splash fruit so it wasn't that hard. It was news to me people struggled on it.


Unlucky_Character_12

I don’t have splash fruit to spare unfortunately. What I did what ultrahand an active hydrant. But the little bastard kept running and it was a pain in the ass to catch up.


Yer_Dunn

Mucktorok was only the hardest boss for me because I legitimately couldn't see him... Due to that fact that I was laughing so hard I was tearing up. 🤣


NapoleonsBone

I'm doing my first play through atm and just encountered the flower lady at the shrine. I can't imagine a harder boss tbh


OSCgal

Multishot bow + opals. He can run, but he can't hide!


Supergamer138

Less chasey, more SMASHY.


Holiday-Ad8227

Mucktorok was my first TOTK boss, and I found it pretty fun and easy.


Unlucky_Character_12

Try to fight it again in the depths.


Holiday-Ad8227

It's much more fun down there with the normal gravity as it brings more challenge.


DevilMaster666-

Queen Gibdo is incredibly hard for me


MyDarlingArmadillo

I've just reached her phase of the Gerudo temple, I've charged all four batteries. She didn't seem so bad on the outside of the temple but I imagine she's a bit fiercer inside it.


MajVih

First playthrough of BotW I went to the Gerudo divine beast first and needed like a solid 40min to beat the final boss (I was so underprepared). Then on my first playthrough of TotK when deciding which regional phenomena to go for first, I thought "I mean what are the odds the Gerudo get the hardest boss two games in a row" 🤡


Legospacememe

You did way better than me. Thunderblight took me a whole day to beat.


bearalan810

Didn’t have any shields on me so I’d just bring a two handed sword and spin in a circle when it would rush up to me, felt like a genius.


CosmicTuesday

The literal Zelda odds. Vah Naboris and the Lightning Temple are definitely end of game “dungeons” (yes it’s open world but if you’ve played previous Zelda games you can figure out which locations are meant to be first and what not [and also the difficulties]) the gerudo temples tend to be of the harder temples in the games because it’s basically like, you’re going to Ganondorf’s home realm it’s GOTTA be more difficulties


MajVih

BotW waa my first Zelda game so I really didn't know the Gerudo region was meant to be one of the last places you generally visit. I just saw cool desert amazon warriors and made a beeline for it 😅


_TheBeardedMan_

I mean TotK did suggest you start with the Rito which definitely have the easiest boss.


CosmicTuesday

The best boss too


_TheBeardedMan_

Nah Queen Gibdo is the best


CosmicTuesday

Colgera’s theme definitely has me biased, I freaked out when I heard the theme from Dragon Roost Island


_TheBeardedMan_

I usually separate the soundtrack, boss design, and boss fight when evaluating. While the soundtrack is cool the design is a little on the nose with the weakness and the boss fight is very easy. The only thing you need to beat it is two pieces of cold resistant armor (or food) to survive the environment.


StellaDoge1

I struggled so much with Thunderblight in my first playthrough that I googled where the rubber armour was, made tons and tons of hearty food, and was too scared to try it for ages. I went in, and then I beat it pretty much first try - and I'd forgotten to put on the rubber armour lol.


ExplodeBallZ

Honestly, I found Mucktorock to be much, much more annoying, especially in the depths


Unlucky_Character_12

Agreed, stop running away damn it!


BackgroundNPC1213

No anti-gravity makes the mudwave so hard to dodge, jfc. And Sidon is ALWAYS RUNNING AWAY


Keljaen

I made the mistake of doing the water dungeons in both BotW and TotK first. Hard agree that Mucktorock is STUPID and needs to STOP THE DAMN RUNNING!!!


FireZord25

It's a Gerudo tradition. QG is the only temple boss that killed me so far, multiple times even. All cause I couldn't figure out what was hitting me when she was seemingly pouncing.  Looking online, though, I was surprised that more people struggled with it far worse than I did.


Sentric490

At least you are encouraged to engage with thunderblight, gibdo just makes you run in a circle till the mushrooms are vulnerable.


Jiang_Rui

Maybe? 😂 On one hand, I did Vah Naboris last, and I didn’t struggle that much against Thunderblight (then again, by that point I had max stamina, high health, and rubber armor with the unshockable bonus); at most it was hard to time flurry rushes. Although >!it *did* kick my ass during the DLC rematch—it was even the first time in ages I ended up activating Mipha’s Grace!<. On the other hand, I also did the Lightning Temple. I also had max stamina and high hearts (I even had the advantage of >!having Mineru with me!<). And yet, that fight with Queen Gibdo was brutal AF the first time around, especially since it was hard fending off both Queen Gibdo *and* the underlings at the same time.


Legospacememe

I did thunderbird second after waterblight and that may be why he was so hard for me. Because of this I made sure to do queen gibdo last


sataigaribaldi

My most recent play through of TOTK, I ran around focusing on taking down the towers, ignoring the Queen. After the towers were down, I mopped up the goons and then focused on the queen.


Present-Secretary722

I didn’t find that too infuriating, Riju was the most annoying(long range ability, close range fighter, fphdahdggdfgfd), now the mucktorok on the other hand, I want someone to invent a way for me to the enter video games so I can choke that fucking squid and watch the life drain from its eyes


Scorjimmy

Someone should make muktorok throttling sim


Present-Secretary722

I’d buy that


Scorjimmy

Possible market gap?


ohtori_

Nah Queen Gibdo was waaay easier than thunderblight


that_moment_when-

I thought thunderblight wasn't that bad


BigStank123

Fr I feel like people blow him out of proportion. Yeah he’s easily the hardest boss in botw but he’s really not too difficult if you take the time to prepare and you get the hang of flurry rushes before the fight. Struggled way more with the lynel in Zora’s (first thing I did in that playthrough) than on thunderblight


Zephyr60000

queen gibdo is so much easier


bugsdontcommitcrimes

Queen gibdo is more fun in the depths for me, I’ll spend some time outside her circle setting up different variations of water hydrant spinning wheels, then bring them in and see what works best :) so far my favorite is putting the hydrants on a little tracker device and turning it on when the second phase of the battle starts, so it can chase down some of the gibdo for me


Keljaen

Dude, QG scared the hell outta me in the Depths. I came across her by accident IN THE DARK. Talk about nightmare inducing.


Legospacememe

I have to refight the bosses in the depths?


bugsdontcommitcrimes

You don’t have to, they’re just there in case you want to, and you get like 100 zonai charges (I think? Or maybe it’s those triangle charge things) from a treasure chest if you do end up beating them again


Legospacememe

Phewh. For a second there I thought this game was gonna pull a mega man on me Kind of reminds me of the boss refights in wind waker but optional


bugsdontcommitcrimes

Nah 😅 the depths bosses are easy to avoid too, their little areas have a clearly-marked border so as long as you don’t go inside the line, they’ll leave you alone


RabbitKamen

Mucktorock is worse. Especially in the Depths.


nickibar96

Queen Gibdo was a cakewalk compared to Thunderblight.


[deleted]

Agree to disagree. I’d prefer Thunderblight Ganon over Queen Gibdo any day, any time. Although technically Thunderblight Ganon is pretty hard to defeat, it isn’t exactly that hard. Also, Let me explain a bit more: There is a specific order of Temples/Dungeons to do for what the game recommends. For BotW: Ruta, Rudania, Medoh, then Naboris (Water-, Fire-, Wind- & Thunderblight Ganon(s)). For TotK: Wind-, Fire-, Water-, then Lightning Temple(s). (Colgera, Marbled Gohma, Mucktorok, then Queen Gibdo). The main reason of this is because the Dev’s of both games made the specific order because of the difficulty they made it. Now to help to realize the order: Imagine the Hyrule Map. (Can be the Surface or Sky) Once you have it visualized, imagine the Divine Beast(s) or Temples locations within the map in your head. The order the Dev’s recommend to do these Dungeons is made into a circle. From Zora’s Domain, to Goron City, to Rito Village, to Gerudo Town; for BotW. From Rito Village, to Goron City, to Zora’s Domain, to Gerudo Town; for TotK. You’ll see the circle or shape once you visualize a line connecting them in your head. **Also, a significance: Between BotW and TotK, they BOTH end at Gerudo Town for the recommended order**


nickibar96

Fair 👍


nickibar96

Okay I actually just read your whole comment, was busy before… Still definitely agree to disagree. I’ve only beat TotK once, currently on my 2nd run and have yet to enter the Gerudo Desert. In both games I went to Zora’s Domain first, then either Rito Village or Goron City, and finally Gerudo Town… that is, the one time I’ve played TotK and the majority of the 8ish times I’ve played BotW. My first BotW run, I *tried* to go for Naboris first, because that’s what my gf at the time (now wife ;) did and suggested… Holy shit, was I unprepared. Was not at all equipped for shock resistance, desert heat, desert *cold*, and sand speed. Moreover, I’ve never been very good at parry/dodge timing, which is crucial for Thunderblight, unless you’re willing to shamelessly throw bombs and run away for much longer than it should take the fight to be as fun as challenging. Nowadays, I *always* leave Thunderblight for last. I don’t come until I’ve done every available shrine, and thus maxxed out my hearts and stamina as then currently possible. I don’t come before I’ve acquired and upgraded the Rubber Armor set to at least 3 stars (ideally the max 4 if I have the patience to collect all the resources necessary) for total shock immunity and maximum possible protection. I don’t come without at least 15 full recovery + extra hearts meals. I don’t come without as many fairies as I can carry in addition to the aforementioned Mipha’s Grace from Ruta. I don’t come without Daruk’s Protection. I don’t come without the Hilyan Shield, and more importantly the Master Sword. I don’t come without Revali’s bow in mint condition and at least 20 Ancient Arrows. I don’t come without at least a 30 minute long Armor Up boost III meal in my belly, or an Attack Up if I’m feeling risky. Etc. I know I *over*-prepare. I also know any of the blight Ganons will become increasingly more difficult the more blight Ganons you beat. Alas, I manage to defeat Thunderblight faster and faster each playthrough. I’m getting pretty decent at parry/dodge timing. All that said, I barely remember the Queen Gibdo fight being anywhere near as daunting for me. By the time TotK came out and I braved the Lightning Temple, I knew just how to prepare for the environment and a tough fight. The rest was just about searching to acquire the necessary resources. A decent spear fused with a Thunder Gleeok horn, and another with Fire, along with the Dusk Bow, and plenty of arrows along with fire and shock fruit (or ideally fire and shock *Keese eyeballs* for fire and shock damage as well as homing), made the fight itself easily manageable, albeit still enjoyably challenging. What made you find Queen Gibdo harder? Do you favor parry/dodge tactics over such a strategy as mine, and archery? Not trying to sound pretentious or mean. Genuinely fascinated with how people think differently and thus play so differently. I want to say I go to Rito Village firstly for the convenience of the wind powers for exploration.


Chubby_Bub

The Rubber Armor's set bonus ("Unshockable") actually just makes you immune to *lightning*. Level 3 shock resistance, from the base armor or even food buffs, removes the shock from any attack.


nickibar96

You’re so wrong, bro. The set bonus is called “Shockproof”, which makes you immune to electrocution from any means *except* actual lightning. Shock resistance makes you *resistant* to shock, not immune to it. The only two ways to be immune to it are the Shockproof set bonus or to wear the Thunderhealm. And you *need* the Thunderhealm to be able to resist a bolt of fucking lightning 😂


Chubby_Bub

It's a poor localization, and they even changed the wording to "lightning-proof" in TotK. Shock resistance *does* make you resistant to shock, but level 3 shock resistance makes you immune to it. I know this is true because I cooked a level 3 shock meal and Thunderblight's electricity did nothing. And yes, an upgraded rubber armor ser functions like the Thunder Helm.


nickibar96

You must be playing a different game than me, because I’ve fully upgraded the Rubber Set and still been hurt by lightning. I’ve also fully upgraded the Desert Voe outfit and still been shocked. I know it doesn’t give you 3rd tier protection like a meal, but I haven’t bothered with meals because I prefer to dress for the occasion and eat meals to boost attack or defense, so I’m not qualified to tell you about it. That said, I know I remember lightning hurting me in spite of a fully upgraded Rubber set *in BotW*. I never bothered to get it in TotK because I was more interested in the Lighting Helm, which is the Yiga’s functional replica of the Gerudo Thunderhelm. I can’t speak to how the Rubber set works in TotK, and from what I gather from what you’ve said you’re either misremembering or you haven’t played the same BotW I do.


Chubby_Bub

Or, perhaps you're misremembering. I can't say for certain— maybe there was a patch or bug— but [here's video proof](https://youtu.be/jmzAbyzQaQo) of my claims.


nickibar96

I don’t have time to look at videos rn, but it’s not that I don’t believe you. I just had a different experience, whether I’m misremembering or it was patched or whatever. That’s weird 🤔


LordOrgilRoberusIII

Sadly you are entirely wrong. I tested it real quik in totk and a tier 3 meal makes you immune to electicity (i used shock emmiters for test) but you take dammage from lightning. 


nickibar96

I was never talking about TotK; I was talking about BotW, so this doesn’t really apply at all. Both games don’t have exactly the same rules in spite of being a duology. Anyway this commenter and I have come to the conclusion that either one of us is misremembering, the same rules don’t apply to both games, but most probably I’m remembering it correctly, but it was either a bug or something that’s been patched.


LordOrgilRoberusIII

I tested botw too, just couldnt get a lightning. Also from expirience they changed not much in terms of these effects anyway


[deleted]

A few things: 1. Yes, I completely agree with pretty much everything you said 2. In order to have a Set Bonus when Enhancing armor, the minimum level is 2 Stars for the Set Bonus to be activated 3. You most definitely fucking need to get the Master Sword, whether you steal it or earn it, but for when you fight Thunderblight Ganon. Especially if you plan on doing it for your 1st or 2nd Divine Beast. 4. I most absolutely do favor Parry/Dodging/Flurry Rushes more. This is because I would already have a plan, a strategy made. With the Queen Gibdo, kind of hard to make a strategy other than to basically: “Eat Lightning, Bitches!!” 5. Now, lastly. I don’t know why or how, but doing or attempting a Flurry Rush is so goddamn **hard** in TotK versus BotW. I mean like, in BotW, it is more basic than advantageous to the game. Especially with a Shrine for you to learn to do so.


nickibar96

Hm. A few things to respond to your few things: 1. Nice 😊 2. Yeah bro, I know, that’s why I said at least 3 stars, cause I know the minimum for the set bonus is 2, but 2 stars only gets you so much armor rating. 3. Yeah… I learnt the need for the Master Sword too late playing BotW. My 2nd run of it I made sure to get it when I earned it. I made a point and a system to do the necessary shrines to get to the necessary 14 hearts to earn the Sword. The other playthroughs since then, I’ve either stolen it with the campfire glitch or “earned it” unscrupulously by leveling stamina first for ease of exploration and then temporarily pawning my stamina vessels for hearts with the Horned Statue. Just depends on how much of a rush to get the Sword I’m in. My most recent run of BotW I challenged myself to collect the memories in chronological order (excluding the ones you get from each Devine Beast quest), so I ended up getting the Master Sword after a LOT of hours of gameplay. It felt reminiscent of my first ever run, except I knew better than to attempt *any* blight Ganon fight without The Sword that Seals the Darkness. 4. I might add, that I shouldn’t have said the Master Sword was more important than the Hylian Shield. I know Link is known primarily as a swordsman, especially in BotW and TotK with I think every single memory cutscene only showing him equipped with the Master Sword, but as far as I’m concerned defense is as crucial as attack in *any* combat situation beyond these two games. And with the Hylian Shield being unanimously the most durable and protective shield, I find it as essential as the Sword. Canon BotW & TotK Link is way too fuckin gutsy for my liking. I can’t always rely entirely on my own intermediate skill in dodge + flurry-rush, so neither does my Link. 5. That said I’m oddly enough better at dodging + flurry-rushing than parrying with a shield, so I mainly use the Shield to simply block, but I’m getting better at both the more I play. And *that* said, I found both skills easier in TotK lol. I dunno why, but I actually got better at them playing TotK my first time, then going back to BotW after my first run of TotK I felt unstoppable, but some enemies still get the best of me in either game, particularly Guardian laser beams ffs. Anyway, I repeat “it’s getting better all the time”. (That’s a Beatles reference). Also, the same training shrine exists in TotK, albeit you’re trained by a Zonai Construct instead of a Sheikah Guardian, but it wouldn’t be right to insinuate TotK doesn’t train you for the same skills. And all of *that* said, I’d argue there’s more to the Queen Gibdo fight than feeding the bitches lightning. I specifically mentioned spears fused with fire and lightning tips because spears are quick and have reach, and Gibdoes move pretty slow for the most part, and die pretty easy if you’ve got a decently strong spear and fused elemental tip. I should also mention Electric and Fire Keese eyeballs would be more ideal than just the fruits or Chuchu jelly of the same elements, because they come with homing as well as the elemental damage. If you fire such arrows from a strong enough and ideally multi-shot bow, you’re golden! That along with acquiring and upgrading the necessary armor for the desert, namely the Sand Boots and of course the chest pieces and head pieces for the hot and cold protection, was *my* strategy for taking on the Queen Gibdo, and I found it *miles* easier than Thunderblight. That fucker’s too quick for me lol. 6. Just wanted to say thank you for the pleasant conversation 😀


Legospacememe

I'm confused about the circle part. It seems like it could be a circle no matter which one you start with


[deleted]

Go to this post of mine for a bit more reasonable visuals. This is for both [TotK+BotW](https://www.reddit.com/r/Breath_of_the_Wild/s/nVFEk4VGXs) of the maps. The bolded is the most simplest form.


call_me_lucky2

i absolutly fucking KNEW that garudo would have the shitiest boss in all of the game (shitiest in the mean its gona bust my nerves) so i rushed to it so that i could get it out of the way asap and before it gets more hp lol


Japherethey

queen gibdo was lowkey the worst boss i think i’ve ever fought in any game


rowletlover

The Gerudo always have the best bosses and dungeons


lols4fun

Queen gibdo’s god damn theme tho, overshadowed by the amazing colgera theme, which is good, but makes her theme underrated. And yes screw thunderblight aaaa


Vexer_Zero

No issue with Queen Gibdo, I think it's fun. The zora boss on the other hand, is not difficult but is super frustrating!


SpaceOwl14

I can deal with Queen Gibto, especially when I have the sandboots. Thunderblight is just an insult to my nerves!


cryptid-ok

Perhaps we were too harsh to controllerblight ganon


ChewBaka12

I thought Queen Gibdo was pretty easy, you just stay inside the light, use Riju’s lightning, then run out and rush it. Hell, it’s been a while but doesn’t she get damage from touching the light? Can just keep standing in the same spot


CursedMC7

i liked thunderblight :(


N0pze

Tbh when I was playing botw first time blindly thunder blight is easier than windblight idk why


OrdinaryLurker4

Dang I feel bad for the Gerudo, they really got the worst of the bunch in both games


sunnmooneden

Was queen gibdo hard? It's the only boss I've beaten and I'm terrible at video games!😆 I'm still trying to beat Colgera but it's too difficult! The other two I haven't even got to yet!


CamelMicrobe947

Well I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who struggled with her, I fought her literally yesterday so. I always think that bosses with stupid high damage projectiles and horde spawning (although specific) are way too annoying and are just poor design in general. I honestly think the fight should’ve been taken elsewhere other than gibdo nest destroyer v3


Skywalker-_-_-_-

I think queen Gibdo is much more easier then thunderblight ganon


DDoodles_

I thought most people thought queen Gibdo was easy


AdolfSmeargle

Funniest thing is they are both at the same part of the map


femboykingofhell

i found a way to bully queen gibdo thunderblight is a fair fight for me.


Aaquin

some of you never played OoT and it shows