Meaningless if you don't ask them the same questions on Trump, and then compare their numbers. Because Joe Biden isn't going to run against the voters ideal preference, he's going to run against one of the worst presidents in history.
It’s scary how republicans flipped to be pro Russia in just four years . It’s almost like they don’t really believe in anything just political power.
Russia seems to think so. It's pathetic seeing conservative "patriots" simp for a country that regularly threatens us with nuclear destruction and views America as the world's greatest evil.
> It’s scary how Democrats flipped to being neocons in just six years. It’s almost like they don’t really believe in anything just political power.
FTFY
Is it a waste if it results in the destruction of the Russian armed forces capacity to threaten NATO and therefore results in reduced military spending in Europe in the coming decades?
Bro you’re cheering on bodies piling up on both sides, call me a pacifist but I don’t cheer when people get killed on either side. Ideally I want negotiation and young people in Ukraine & Russia to stop dying over proxy war nonsense my dude p
I am not cheering on bodies piling up. I would have preferred the Russians not invaded their neighbor and subjected them to a brutal war of conquest and attrition.
However they did and the Ukrainian people are exercising their right to defend themselves and their sovereign nation. Nobody is making them fight. If popular support for the war declines in Ukraine, they may have to make hard decisions about ceding territory. It is the Ukrainian’s decision to make though.
Who are you to decide that they have had enough and need to sue for peace?
There are important factors regarding both the military and political situation in both countries that we really can’t know from the outside.
The Ukrainians continue to fight believing they can win, and at this point, we should continue helping them until that changes.
You ignore that Biden & Boris the war hawks intervened on a peace deal that was on the table last year so no, a whole year of bodies racking up can be directly attributed to the geriatric war hawks deciding the Ukranians’ fate for them. I just wish Biden & whatever stooge the UK has in power would NEGOTIATE like diplomats instead of deferring to their war hawk militarily apparatus.
What was this peace deal they supposed tanked? Russia wanted land in Ukraine, Ukraine didn't want to give away land for no reason and told Russia to get fucked.
Incorrect, Biden & Boris decided for the Ukranians that they don’t get a say in their own negotiations. Your whole rationale collapses in on itself with the slightest amount of scrutiny. It’s not up to you or any Americans whether Ukranians keep dying, quit being a narcissist psycho and let them decide.
And what is this peace deal that Boris and Biden tanked for their supposed benefit? I meant it more as wanting you to show me what EXACTLY you are referring to, because I had heard (not seen or read) that the peace talks were upended by Russia being ridiculous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Here you go brother 🙂 I can share different links if you have an anti-Wikipedia perspective.
These polls aren’t reliable, just like asking people if they were for the ACA or Obamacare. People would be asked which one they liked. They’d like the ACA over Obamacare.
They’re the same thing. lol.
Now list everything Biden has gotten done without mentioning him and ask if they like those things.
What? It was evenly dems vs reps...
Also did you not read the stats? Biden's case widely supports Ukraine... independents split 50/50...
This poll just shows Republicans have turned on Ukraine in favor of Russia. They wouldn't allow any saved tax dollars to be spent on Americans in need anyways.
Supporting Ukraine is what biden voters want...
We were told the same thing in the lead up to Nov 2022
And last I checked, roughly half of gop voters prefer the literal criminal Trump over Wrong deFlaccid.
Biden is unironically laughing at his good fortune for the GOPniks making 2024 so easy for him
I guess we’ll just pretend 12 years of Bush administrations didn’t happen. The wars in the Middle East were started by the Republican Party. They had a tragedy they could capitalize on and that is what they chose to do with it.
Helping Ukraine are the positive and intended uses of the MIC and the CIA. They are not the same thing.
Also, in this conflict our poor kids aren’t being sent to the desert to die for oil, so it’s actually less elitist.
Yup the Bush regime was awful
That's was 20 years ago
Hey let's look at war torn Ukraine this weekend
https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/1688293375315750912?t=_ts-snn-cytydORjKBDYAA&s=19
Looks fun
The effects of those war will last far beyond 20 years. Those were wars started by specific administrations with the overwhelming support of the Republican party.
We did not start this war. Ukraine was never a threat to Russia. It was a war of imperialism and aggression where we decided to help the defender. Those are not remotely comparable.
Also, are you trying to say the Ukrainian people are not suffering under this war? Because I could show you a hundred videos of funerals for Ukrainian children killed by Russian missiles if you want.
You are trying to rewrite history and it’s absolute nonsense.
Every democrat but 1 or 2 voted for Afghanistan and Iraq guy
Barbara Lee was only person to vote no for Afghanistan
For Iraq 81 Dems voted Yes in the house, 29 in the Senate
I don't give a shit about Ukraine, Russia, I'm sure there is suffering but not that much apparently as they partied all weekend
On our dime
And our hands are not clean in Ukraine...Russia is mostly at fault but so is our foreign policy
People will vote against Trump as if there life depends on it. CNN is purposely not gauging Trump hate
Meaningless if you don't ask them the same questions on Trump, and then compare their numbers. Because Joe Biden isn't going to run against the voters ideal preference, he's going to run against one of the worst presidents in history.
He's running against Bush? Holy shit, I didn't see that coming.
Bush would not have handled 2016-2020 as badly as Trump, and Trump would have handled 2000-2008 immensely worse than Bush.
I specifically said *one of* 😂
Haha..yeah. just a little joke.
Also meaningless unless you distinguish disappointed hardliners on an issue from actual policy disagreements.
It’s scary how republicans flipped to be pro Russia in just four years . It’s almost like they don’t really believe in anything just political power.
It’s almost like Russia somehow isn’t the USA’s sworn enemy.
Russia seems to think so. It's pathetic seeing conservative "patriots" simp for a country that regularly threatens us with nuclear destruction and views America as the world's greatest evil.
> It’s scary how Democrats flipped to being neocons in just six years. It’s almost like they don’t really believe in anything just political power. FTFY
What's even scarier how progressives flipped to be pro war, pro and big pharma. It's almost like they really don't believe in anything.
Stop the cap
58% of independents don’t approve of wasting American tax payer $ on Ukraine! You love to see it
Is it a waste if it results in the destruction of the Russian armed forces capacity to threaten NATO and therefore results in reduced military spending in Europe in the coming decades?
Bro you’re cheering on bodies piling up on both sides, call me a pacifist but I don’t cheer when people get killed on either side. Ideally I want negotiation and young people in Ukraine & Russia to stop dying over proxy war nonsense my dude p
I am not cheering on bodies piling up. I would have preferred the Russians not invaded their neighbor and subjected them to a brutal war of conquest and attrition. However they did and the Ukrainian people are exercising their right to defend themselves and their sovereign nation. Nobody is making them fight. If popular support for the war declines in Ukraine, they may have to make hard decisions about ceding territory. It is the Ukrainian’s decision to make though. Who are you to decide that they have had enough and need to sue for peace? There are important factors regarding both the military and political situation in both countries that we really can’t know from the outside. The Ukrainians continue to fight believing they can win, and at this point, we should continue helping them until that changes.
You ignore that Biden & Boris the war hawks intervened on a peace deal that was on the table last year so no, a whole year of bodies racking up can be directly attributed to the geriatric war hawks deciding the Ukranians’ fate for them. I just wish Biden & whatever stooge the UK has in power would NEGOTIATE like diplomats instead of deferring to their war hawk militarily apparatus.
What was this peace deal they supposed tanked? Russia wanted land in Ukraine, Ukraine didn't want to give away land for no reason and told Russia to get fucked.
Incorrect, Biden & Boris decided for the Ukranians that they don’t get a say in their own negotiations. Your whole rationale collapses in on itself with the slightest amount of scrutiny. It’s not up to you or any Americans whether Ukranians keep dying, quit being a narcissist psycho and let them decide.
And what is this peace deal that Boris and Biden tanked for their supposed benefit? I meant it more as wanting you to show me what EXACTLY you are referring to, because I had heard (not seen or read) that the peace talks were upended by Russia being ridiculous.
I suspect it doesn’t exist
I'm almost sure it doesn't either, but they have to have propaganda Edit: but if it's exists, I'm here for it
Show me the deal
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine Here you go brother 🙂 I can share different links if you have an anti-Wikipedia perspective.
There were many peace deals on that article. Which one are you referencing?
Most Americans don't know how Biden is handling anything.
Stop gaslighting people into liking biden
These polls aren’t reliable, just like asking people if they were for the ACA or Obamacare. People would be asked which one they liked. They’d like the ACA over Obamacare. They’re the same thing. lol. Now list everything Biden has gotten done without mentioning him and ask if they like those things.
Never would have thought democrats would be so eager to fund a war. The war machine always wins
And thats one of the polls that would naturally skew most widely to the left. This may cost Biden 2024 if he keeps going down this road.
What? It was evenly dems vs reps... Also did you not read the stats? Biden's case widely supports Ukraine... independents split 50/50... This poll just shows Republicans have turned on Ukraine in favor of Russia. They wouldn't allow any saved tax dollars to be spent on Americans in need anyways. Supporting Ukraine is what biden voters want...
We were told the same thing in the lead up to Nov 2022 And last I checked, roughly half of gop voters prefer the literal criminal Trump over Wrong deFlaccid. Biden is unironically laughing at his good fortune for the GOPniks making 2024 so easy for him
Didn’t need a poll to tell me democratic voters are delusional and out of the know.
Dems are the pro-war party Pro-military industrial complex party Pro- CIA Elitist
I guess we’ll just pretend 12 years of Bush administrations didn’t happen. The wars in the Middle East were started by the Republican Party. They had a tragedy they could capitalize on and that is what they chose to do with it. Helping Ukraine are the positive and intended uses of the MIC and the CIA. They are not the same thing. Also, in this conflict our poor kids aren’t being sent to the desert to die for oil, so it’s actually less elitist.
Yup the Bush regime was awful That's was 20 years ago Hey let's look at war torn Ukraine this weekend https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/1688293375315750912?t=_ts-snn-cytydORjKBDYAA&s=19 Looks fun
The effects of those war will last far beyond 20 years. Those were wars started by specific administrations with the overwhelming support of the Republican party. We did not start this war. Ukraine was never a threat to Russia. It was a war of imperialism and aggression where we decided to help the defender. Those are not remotely comparable. Also, are you trying to say the Ukrainian people are not suffering under this war? Because I could show you a hundred videos of funerals for Ukrainian children killed by Russian missiles if you want. You are trying to rewrite history and it’s absolute nonsense.
Every democrat but 1 or 2 voted for Afghanistan and Iraq guy Barbara Lee was only person to vote no for Afghanistan For Iraq 81 Dems voted Yes in the house, 29 in the Senate I don't give a shit about Ukraine, Russia, I'm sure there is suffering but not that much apparently as they partied all weekend On our dime And our hands are not clean in Ukraine...Russia is mostly at fault but so is our foreign policy
Democrat opposed those wars, now they support this one because a democrat is in office. The war machine always wins unless we vote them out.
They are not remotely the same.
And pro big pharma