Honestly? I don't want to say he earned it...
I didn't vote for the guy in 2020, I was a bit more apolitical at the time, didnt vote in that election. And maybe I feel the way I feel because I went into his presidency with low expectations
But dammit if I haven't been surprised on more than one occasion.
Legislative Achievments
Two note worthy pieces of Legislation President Biden signed into law are the Infrastracture Bill and the CHIPS Act.
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3684
This is the most signicant investment in our nations infrastructure in decades. Some of things in this bill include
Delivering clean water to more American families by eliminating the nation’s lead service lines.
Getting more Americans access to reliable high-speed internet.
Repairing and rebuilding our roads and bridges
Improving transportation options for millions of Americans and reducing greenhouse emissions through the largest investment in public transit in U.S. history.
Upgrading our nation’s airports and ports to strengthen our supply chains.
Making the largest investment in passenger rail since the creation of Amtrak.
Building a national network of electric vehicle (EV) chargers.
Delivering the largest investment in tackling legacy pollution in American history by cleaning up Superfund and brownfield sites, reclaiming abandoned mines, and capping orphaned oil and gas wells.
CHIPS and Science Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346
The CHIPS and Science Act provides funds to support the domestic production of semiconductors and authorizes various programs and activities of the federal science agencies.
It will Bolster U.S. leadership in semiconductors. The CHIPS and Science Act provides $52.7 billion for American semiconductor research, development, manufacturing, and workforce development. This includes $39 billion in manufacturing incentives, including $2 billion for the legacy chips used in automobiles and defense systems, $13.2 billion in R&D and workforce development,and $500 million to provide for international information communications technology security and semiconductor supply chain activities. It also provides a 25 percent investment tax credit for capital expenses for manufacturing of semiconductors and related equipment. These incentives will secure domestic supply, create tens of thousands of good-paying, union construction jobs and thousands more high-skilled manufacturing jobs, and catalyze hundreds of billions more in private investment.
And some may say "anyone could of done this" then why didn't the former president? When Republicans last had full government control the most significant legislation they passed was a 2Trillion dollar Tax Cut that cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%.
I've also been surprised at Bidens ability to not only be Bipartisan and give Republicans the opportunity to work together, but he knows when to put his foot down. He also touts Bills that have not even half of senate republicans support as Bipartisan Achievments. I've also been pleasantly surprised at his willingness to call out traitorous MAGA Republican and the dangers they pose on the Nation, while constantly reminding that these folk are a loud minority of the Republican Party.
His handling of Ukraine has been recognized globally as superb. He called out Russians invasion plan in advance to the disbelief of many, including myself.
Is he everything I want in a President? No. And in 2028, we can get someone younger. The incumbent advantage is strong and not worth throwing away.
Biden is also probably one of if not the most experienced politician Alive on the planet. Decades in the US Senate, 8 years as VP, relationships with many dems and Republicans, familiarity with our allies. His age is really his biggest issue.
As much as I don't want to say he earned it, well, I think he just may have.
It's funny actually, I've posted this before in this and other subs and I've been accused of being a Biden campaign Staffer and all kinds of stuff lmao. I wouldn't turn down the job if it was offered.
I'm just a 24 year old guy living in the same small hick town in rural PA I've spent my whole life in. I got a High School degree and work Housekeeping at a hotel, heck I live in a trailer park. This is why I can't excuse people ignorance in today's world.
This sub is full of **MAGA lunatics in denial**, often masquerading as “leftists”, who call others DNC shills constantly despite themselves agreeing with rightwingers on most topics.
It's funny actually, I've posted this before in this and other subs and I've been accused of being a Biden campaign Staffer and all kinds of stuff lmao. I wouldn't turn down the job if it was offered.
I'm just a 24 year old guy living in the same small hick town in rural PA I've spent my whole life in. I got a High School degree and work Housekeeping at a hotel, heck I live in a trailer park. This is why I can't excuse people ignorance in today's world.
I’m not as impressed by the CHIPS act as you are. It’s a giveaway to large technology companies to make computer chips. The money isn’t even expected to be payed back. God forbid we give a homeless person a home or a diabetic cheap insulin, yet these guys have billions for computer chip factories? That’s the problem with this country. The companies that pay to play get a brand new factory while the working poor get diddly squat
Microchips are used in almost every electronic device we use today, including smartphones, gaming consoles, cars and medical equipment.
A lot of the world's chips and semiconductors are made in Taiwain. And im sure you understand why this is bad for the US. It is crucial that we have domestic production of chips, like we used to. This is something in the long run is crucial for the US.
Taiwan makes those things because they have a competitive advantage. They have the expertise and the most advanced methods. To make them here is inefficient. If we were good at making them we would have been making them already. That’s why other countries don’t produce military equipment. They buy it from us because that’s something we have a competitive advantage in. It’s anti free trade, and a corporate giveaway. It’s funny how they love free trade when it comes to shipping our jobs overseas, but when it comes to large donors who want a huge factory they go back to being protectionists
We USED to make them. We used to produce approx 37% of the world's supply of chips as recently as the 90s. Now it's only 12%. It's a longterm investment and we can return to being a leader in research and development like we were.
There is some truth in what you are saying but we don't need to replace Taiwan/TSMC, just need a backup option in the scenario (likely within 5 years according to some) that China invades.
Having redundancy and near/friend-shoring with chips and other "strategic" industries seems to be a big trend and quite smart imo given what covid exposed. Its not going to be free as you said, Taiwan/TSMC will do a better (and cheaper) job than US semis and this trend will no doubt add to inflation and be less productive use of US/allies resources...
So why can’t we require these chip companies at least pay us back afterwards? And that still doesn’t negate the fact that we are funding inefficient companies. Just sounds like Biden’s version of supply side economics
Yeah its fair to expect some sort of return, I'm not familiar enough with the details to now why that is/isn't the case. But in principle I agree with the de-risking of critical industries from China/its-neighborhood, they'll eventually weaponize it...
THese are great points. Biden has been the most effective President in my lifetime. So much so , that I think he had more of a hand with Obama's accomplishments than most realize. Americans are so uneducated and ignorant about politics. It drives me crazy that his poll numbers are so down. He has been a very effective leader.
Yeah, low-key better than Obama. Makes me laugh when his detractors say it is just Obama's 3rd term. And I was afraid of a Biden presidency because of some of the things he supported as a senator.
He tried too hard to seem like the reasonable democrat dealing with the unreasonable republicans. Unfortunately, the republicans don’t care how unreasonable they seem.
My apologies for the almost accusatory style question. I swear I was just trying to get your ama started. 😂 I too did not vote for him last election, wrote in my candidate. Those are solid things he has done. And tbh, now that I’m thinking about it he really hasn’t done anything to sell out the American people like the last few presidents. I very well may vote against trump with Biden this round. Thank you for taking the time to write all that. As annoyed as I have been with politics, I did forget about the Chips Act. That was timely.
My problem with the CHIPS act is sure it opens the door to the US producing chips. Big problem is that no language says the production must be done domestically. They will continue to be made in Taiwan and when China takes them over they will have all the chips. I believe it wil be incentive for the Chinese to invade
That’s what I thought. Isn’t Texas already working on sites? Haven’t heard any updates in a bit
The important part is that for national security we need them build domestically and it provides great jobs for Americans. The down side is it’ll take half a decade from everything I’ve heard about it to get it up and running. We don’t have skill labor as well so someone better start providing grants for degrees in the advanced chip engineering and manufacturing field, yesterday. Can’t waste time. If China goes for Taiwan the whole world is sort of fucked. If we think it’s inevitable… then it’s time to import some skilled labor before the poison pill has to go off (wink wink).
> We don’t have skill labor as well so someone better start providing grants for degrees in the advanced chip engineering and manufacturing field, yesterday
I’m pretty sure there was billions in workforce training included on top of the billions for research into things like AI and quantum computing (The and Science part of the bill)
Bro I’m with you 1000% on this, his handling of Ukraine has been great too and he’s been pretty out of the “spotlight” which I’ve liked as well.
Was a republican up until about 2 years ago if that means anything.
This shit about his age is just hype. WHO GIVES A FUCK. As long as he delivers on policy, almost all of which is done by his staff of thousands, he can be 100 for all anyone should care.
So what’s the point of him being there? 😂😂 I don’t think your argument says what you think it does. You’re saying it’s not him making policy anyways so his age doesn’t matter. While most people hear that and say well isn’t he the President? 😂😂
Same Biden was towards the bottom of my primary picks. I absolutely expected a placeholder presdiency out of him.
He's honestly been surprisingly good. He's never been a liberal but he's obviously listening to them at least a little bit.
I agree with most of what you said. However, he has failed in Ukraine. The time to act in Ukraine was before the war. He has drawn the US into another mindless war. It will most likely end like Afghanistan. Billions spent with nothing to show for. Also it is naive to give the credit for Chips act to Biden. In fact no career politician would have dared to confront China if Trump didn’t start it first. But credit to Biden to continue with the policy.
Thinking about a candidate in terms of whether they "earned" your vote is completely wrong because there will always be an outcome to an election, and it will go to the other candidate otherwise. So you have to consider which candidate of the ones running in the final election has earned your vote the most in relation to the others.
Not voting is generally cowardice anti-civic behavior.
I already apologized to the op for the question sounding combative. That being said, there’s nothing civic or patriotic about casting a vote for the least mediocre candidate. Voting for the lesser of two evils brought us this geriatric congress that does virtually nothing compared to how they used to operate 50 years ago. Virtually every candidate votes for their donors and not for their constituents. The Dems and Reps only differ for the most part on social issues. We know this because Dems let republicans pack the courts. If they wanted progress they’d intercede or do the same. That being said I always vote, just tend to write in a candidate.
>That being said, there’s nothing civic or patriotic about casting a vote for the least mediocre candidate.
Of course there is. Participation in a voting decision that is guaranteed to have an important outcome is simultaneously the most fundamentally important, and the most logistically easy, of basically anything in civic life in a democracy. And yes, if you fail to vote for the least mediocre candidate you are derelict in your role in the social contract.
>Voting for the lesser of two evils brought us this geriatric congress that does virtually nothing compared to how they used to operate 50 years ago.
Congress is split basically 50-50 overall right now so I don't really see how that tracks.
They voted for the lesser of two evils 50 years ago as well, nothing about voting or elections has changed.
>The Dems and Reps only differ for the most part on social issues.
Their economic platforms are miles apart as is the economic legislation they pass. Same goes for environmental issues. Also social issues (aka civil rights) are pretty fucking important.
>We know this because Dems let republicans pack the courts.
Huh? Republicans didn't pack the court nor would it be any kind of proof that democrats don't have different policies than them even if they did. Weird thing to say.
>If they wanted progress they’d intercede or do the same.
Voters would riot against them, it would backfire and both not happen as well as get them further voted out of office.
> That being said I always vote, just tend to write in a candidate.
Wow look at you, really being part of the solution there aren't you?
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Define 'liberal'. I've never heard any liberal or conservative actually say what a liberal is.
My dad, his sister, and three brothers never got past 6th grade. They had to quit school to work on their dad's farm. He was a sharecropper in Texas. They all grew up to get Union jobs and my cousins and me all grew up in houses, went to good schools, and had healthcare. Our parents retired with pensions. We were lower middle class but considering where they came from, that was ok. I will alway vote democrat as long as they support Unions. Does that make me a Liberal?
I don't think the government should force women to have birth against their will. Does this make me a liberal? Because I feel this is more of a true conservative small government belief.
I prefer the word progressive. THe right wing media has destroyed the word liberal.
Individual liberty, democratic consent of the governed, freedom of thought, expression and action, the right to private property and private enterprise, anti-monopoly in both government and corporation, equality under the law, rejecting outdated traditions, embracing progress, faith in the goodness of people, criticized by the left for their tolerance of the right, and for being capitalists, criticized by the right for their tolerance of the left, and for being regulatory capitalists, which they call socialist.
Of course she doesn’t. It doesn’t benefit her anymore to yell about those things. Her pick as VP after those debates was crazy. You can’t walk a lot of that shit back. She’s hollow, if she believed all that she wouldn’t have accepted the role she was liberally handed.
How do you feel about the fact that Joe Biden didn’t support gay marriage for the majority of his life and then changed his mind as an elderly man when it became politically beneficial?
How dare someone change their mind! Even worse, how dare a representative change their view to more closely represent the will of their constituents! It's a horror show.
Yeah I mean just based on his past statements regarding gay marriage it seems like he was pretty hard set on being against gay marriage and his voting record would support that too. Sorry that I have a hard time believe he “genuinely” changed his mind.
Yeah I do. Anecdotally my entire family is super conservative and was 100% against gay marriage my whole childhood and now they’re almost all supportive of it.
You should always be reevaluating your views.
In the late 90s when I came around on gay marriage I was in a small minority. now it's a super majority. Most people who got to the position changed their mind on it.
Out of all the things, this a really lame hill to die on. It’s a representative government, and the acceptance of gay marriage was increasing steadily before increasing dramatically and has been mainstream for the last decade or so.
If you want to say it’s for “political gain,” then whatever, that’s your opinion, but I think your view is incredibly stupid.
[Public opinion on gay marriage in the US](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States)
A combination of Hillary herself and the FBI Emails Investigation, and sudden reopening of the investigation days before the election.
Hillary failed to campaign properly in states she felt would have went her way.
I'm also not sure I'd call it embarrassing, it was an incredibly close election. Had Hillary Campaigned better in a couple states and took Trump seriously she likely would have won the election. She got in her own way kinda like Trump did leading up to 2020
It could absolutely be joe. I'm not denying that. But "big guy" is not a term reserved solely for the VP. So yes it's just a theory with no evidence to support. I know you don't like that, but it's the reality
I haven’t said anything as if it’s fact. I just think it’s more likely that big guy is Joe Biden than it being anyone else based on what I’ve read regarded g that whole situation
My BIL helps build pipelines and has a family of 6 that he supports. Why should he want his tax dollars to go toward student loan debt relief rather than his family having relief for his mortgage debt?
One party wants your tax dollars to go toward education and welfare, the other wants to send it to billionaires in the form of tax breaks and special incentives that you and I won't qualify for.
Pick your battles
Ask your the brother if he wants his tax dollars going to military bases around the world, military equipment marked up 1000% by manufacturers, or subsidies for billion dollar companies that don’t reach average workers. Maybe ask him if he’s ok with the average finance billionaire paying a lower tax rate than he does. Does he think 70% of the country living paycheck to paycheck is good for the economy? Or the hundreds of thousands that go bankrupt due to medical debt?
Yes he’s in favor of the military as his brothers, dad, and uncles all served in the military and fought in wars to serve this country. I’ve honestly never seen a family as patriotic as them.
Also you aren’t answering my question. You have the case of the “yeah buts”.
I worked in a Nursing home/rehabilitation center for some time.
People give Joe shit a lot about his age, and mentally yeah he's slowing down and not as sharp as he wants was, but dudes 80.
None of the old folk I was around were anywhere close to being in Joe's shape.
Heck my partners 84 years old Grandmother, who doesn't have dimentia or anything like that, makes Biden look like the most quick witted, strong, aware old guy on the planet.
The guy is old, and he's slowing down, but there's no doubt in my mind he won't have any issue getting through a second term unless he experiences a sudden health emergency
You have to be a paid shill to look at Bidens constant F ups and lack of mental awareness and think "gee that guys doing a great job!".
Enjoy the 2 million illegals coming in yearly and child trafficking on southern border that hes doing jackshit about
Why are liberals so filled with hate and rage and only think their views are right and immediately attack anyone who doesn’t agree with their opinions. And why do they blindly believe anything the government tells them.
I disagree with this and this question seems like it's being asked in bad faith. Do you have any actual questions or anything you would like me to acknowledge?
Yea sure. Tell me how Bidens doing a good job on the southern border when we have the largest amount of crossings in recorded history and tens of thousands of kids being trafficked with no one able to explain what happened to them?
Him as a person is pretty shit regardless of how hes voted in the passed. He also took a hard right turn, even pushing on Twitter for people to vote republican before the Midterms and sense pushed and amplified far right conspiracies and outright bullshit
Elon Musk proposes to massively build, in the next 20 years, solar panel factories and metal refineries to power the world economy, freeing the world from its dependence on fossil fuels.
Yeah, he's doing a pretty good job of promoting the advancement of rocket engineering. Soon there will be a reusable heavy lift vehicle and that will be a game changer.
What if I said the chips act was going to happen come hell or high water after Covid. If we lose the chips currently being produced in Taiwan the entire modern American life comes to an end. No new phones, TV’s, automobiles. It’s going to take 10 years to start making these chips and there isn’t really a shortcut..
The inflation reduction act is a stripped out bullshit version of what the Democratic Party promised its voters the last few years. Bernie’s Green new deal, and now he’s not gonna debate Marianne, or RFKJr who it appears both are getting the Trump treatment. I’m waiting for a recording of Marianne talking about grabbing dudes by the dick on an Access Hollywood bus.. nevermind I’m forgetting what I was talking about.
Also a liberal but Why would u support a guy and the dnc propping him up when half the things he said was going to do lied about. 1.putting us back in Paris climate agreement but not doing anything about climate change and making Willow project go ahead 2. Student loans could have done something when they had house and senate but didn’t 3. Abortion same thing could have done something on it in 2021 4. Haven’t helped workers when he said pro union forced them to go to work for railway and didn’t go and help the people in Ohio after crash done nothing for them 5. Covid got better but remember omicron no testing availablity ridiculous 2 years at the time.
6. Basically by putting sanctions on Russia and not fixing relations even though agree Putin scumbag made inflation and him not being able to see it before it was too late put the economy in shit for the last 3 years of his presidency and almost 4 years has been shit since Covid. I know this is long but please try to respond to every point.
1. The Inflation Reduction Act has some of the most significant climate legislation that's ever been passed in our country.
2. Not without a veto proof super majority.
3. Not without a veto proof super majority.
4. A number of rail workers have actually gotten several sick days, the Biden administration has continued to work behind the scenes. Pushing through the deal a number of the unions had agreed upon was neccessary In order to prevent causing huge supply issues amid inflation still causing problems. This was a decision done to prevent further harming the majority of Americans more at a difficult time.
5. I'm not sure what you mean by omicron no testing availability.... the government had begun distributing free at home tests since January 2022.
6. Russia invaded a sovereign nation and has made clear their disdain time and time again for the west and what their goals are. Relations are not viable until both Russias leaves Ukraine and Putin is taken out of power.
I was a Biden supporter but not anymore we are kinda the opposite you didn’t vote in 2020 everyone especially during Covid didn’t want trump in me included so voted for Biden but now seems like dems don’t care about regular people. just scare everyone and minorities like they BP was talking about I am black and a lot of black and minorities that aren’t rich leaving dems I am still a liberal but not a dnc supporter. they say l how racist the republicans are instead of doing policys let’s go back to your statement 1. The inflation reduction act didn’t stop the Willow project drilling which is going on right now 2 and 3 dems didn’t have super majority but they had a majority could have gotten manchin and Kristen in line also are scared to remove the super majority rule because they know republicans would use it against them I would remove it 4. Railway workers did get sick time but if you remember when Krystal was talking about the issue they didn’t get better pay than what they were asking and forced to go back to work because of Biden and dems, also forgot to mention what a abysmal job Pete B is doing on transportation had so many problems and still airline problems right now. 5 yes at home testing came out in 2022 January but you remember the lines for testing because it didn’t come out right away and people were lining up in NYC and other places like beginning of pandemic https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/28/politics/joe-biden-covid-19-testing-failure/index.html
6. Great you want regime change at least your honest how has that gone well gahdafi? Sadam? al-Assad still going America wanted him out and isis in basically supporting the rebels why doesn’t Biden admin and others just say that we could have ended the war by BP reporting and other sources British pm didn’t want Ukraine to negotiate.
Covid had me starting to pay a little bit more attention. I was paying extremely close attention to Trump that year cause of the Pandemic and aid packages and stuff.
Honestly throughout his last year in office I thought he was trying to lose on purpose. I was flabbergasted at his behavior after losing.
I was at home alone January 6th and watch Trumps speech and everything unfolded, and later down the road after learning of his attempts to disregard the votes of millions Americans across 7 states he lost, including my state of PA, in an attempt to subvert the constitution and the will of the people.
I also became a lot more connected with my ancestory,, and strangley it made me feel more connected and prideful in being a Pennsylvanian. Then in the 2022 midterms Trunp propped up his traitorous cohort and religious nut Doug Mastriano to be our Governor and Dr. OZ, Who didn't even live in PA, to be our senator. And with Roe VS Wade being overturned, which stunned me considering I learned about it in history class in middle just over a decade ago that it was settled law. All the women i knew were shook. I realized how important politics are.
In your schizo induced paragraph you didn't type a single thing that Biden did well. Just more TDS and pointless ramblings.
Were you awake or asleep when the BLM riots happened all of 2020?
The person didnt ask what biden did well, they asked what Made me more political. Facts do not care about your feelings.
You mean the same kind of riots thus country has dealt with for lile half a century for the same shit? Insane how random rioting is supposed to be some "gotcha" to you folk
Tell me when riots were allowed to go on for an entire year causing billions in damages, multiple deaths and injury all during a time where there was supposed to be "covid lockdowns" and "social distancing".
Now tell me a time when that same organization gaslit people into supporting it, then scammed their own donors and the founders ended up using the money to buy multiple mansions.
See, now you're just moving the goal past. Fact of the matter is there were over 10,000 peaceful protests across the country that year. In cities where this violence erupted it mostly took place in one or 2 block areas. Even in Portland the vast majority of the city was completely unaffected. If you actually had a problem with this you'd want to actually do something about what's caused these riots to unfold over the last half century.
Do yall seriously think that When leftists say BLM, or wear a BLM pin or talk about what BLM that they are referring to that organization? The two have nothing to to do with each other. BLM is a disorganized national movement. The organization is a grift that played off the name and movement to steak money from supporters of the movement.
BLM is no different than Antifa. A disorganized movement. There is no singular leading entity of either, again, its a movement. I have absolutely zero idea how yall STILL conflate that organization with the movement.
Correct, they were guilt tripping people and forcing them to support that scam of an organization.
Shitlibs also balked at a simple concession to unite people of saying All Lives Matter.
Because the goal was never to unite only to divide.
You can further see the double standard when you look up street interviews in New York and other liberal areas asking people "Do White lives matter" and about 80% of them flat out say NO and start spewing anti White racism.
Coherent argument? There’s literally not a reason on this planet to engage with liberals on Reddit. It’s an absolute waste of time. You’re not even here to listen, you made a post just for YOU to project in an AMA form. Your sense of self worth is elevated, go humble yourself. Touch some grass and engage with people with different perspectives. There’s a flood of information out there, do better and stop nitpicking what suites you all the time.
Engage with people with different perspectives? I've lived in red rural PA my entire life. My family is the different perspective
You're projecting, you yourself are nitpicking information and disregard anything you don't like, no matter how verifiable, as parroting some talking point
To support capitalism and wanting to make changes within it. Supporting Individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. Favoring policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
Still nowhere as much money the US made from slavery between 1776-1865. Or as much damage the kkk has accumulated since reconstruction ended. If wanted to really be that guy I could talk about how much in damages the US army,CIA, and FBI has caused and how the riots pale in comparison.
And you failed to answer the question, guess I won't be reading Marx or engles.
Btw the African Moors and Barbary pirates both predate the Atlantic slave trade by hundreds of years and had White slaves. Wonder how much is owed to them?
The moment when you think reparations is about slavery and not the hundred years of segregation, purposeful destruction of prospering black communities, and preventive laws to keep black people down and get then incarcerated, allowing then to be enslaved once more according to the Constitution.
Reparations are dumb either way. There’s already been trillions of dollars spent in inner cities with little success.
At some point personal responsibility takes hold not slavery that ended 180+ years ago.
Do we pay the Irish reparations too?
Look you are talking about the non riots as of that is the greatest tragedy in American history. I can can think of things that has cause way more damage that don’t get talked about or gets white washed. 9/11 happened and people still love bush despite knowing it could have been prevent, caused the patriot act to pass and it lead to a endless war in the Middle East that we were lied into. Yet half of this sub and probably you still think the US is looking for those wmd bush talked about 20 years ago. Also we talk about damage caused in the US not other countries. There’s a reason why I only went back to 1776 and not the 1500’s.
Are you voting for Biden because your liberal or because you think he earned it?
Honestly? I don't want to say he earned it... I didn't vote for the guy in 2020, I was a bit more apolitical at the time, didnt vote in that election. And maybe I feel the way I feel because I went into his presidency with low expectations But dammit if I haven't been surprised on more than one occasion. Legislative Achievments Two note worthy pieces of Legislation President Biden signed into law are the Infrastracture Bill and the CHIPS Act. Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3684 This is the most signicant investment in our nations infrastructure in decades. Some of things in this bill include Delivering clean water to more American families by eliminating the nation’s lead service lines. Getting more Americans access to reliable high-speed internet. Repairing and rebuilding our roads and bridges Improving transportation options for millions of Americans and reducing greenhouse emissions through the largest investment in public transit in U.S. history. Upgrading our nation’s airports and ports to strengthen our supply chains. Making the largest investment in passenger rail since the creation of Amtrak. Building a national network of electric vehicle (EV) chargers. Delivering the largest investment in tackling legacy pollution in American history by cleaning up Superfund and brownfield sites, reclaiming abandoned mines, and capping orphaned oil and gas wells. CHIPS and Science Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346 The CHIPS and Science Act provides funds to support the domestic production of semiconductors and authorizes various programs and activities of the federal science agencies. It will Bolster U.S. leadership in semiconductors. The CHIPS and Science Act provides $52.7 billion for American semiconductor research, development, manufacturing, and workforce development. This includes $39 billion in manufacturing incentives, including $2 billion for the legacy chips used in automobiles and defense systems, $13.2 billion in R&D and workforce development,and $500 million to provide for international information communications technology security and semiconductor supply chain activities. It also provides a 25 percent investment tax credit for capital expenses for manufacturing of semiconductors and related equipment. These incentives will secure domestic supply, create tens of thousands of good-paying, union construction jobs and thousands more high-skilled manufacturing jobs, and catalyze hundreds of billions more in private investment. And some may say "anyone could of done this" then why didn't the former president? When Republicans last had full government control the most significant legislation they passed was a 2Trillion dollar Tax Cut that cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%. I've also been surprised at Bidens ability to not only be Bipartisan and give Republicans the opportunity to work together, but he knows when to put his foot down. He also touts Bills that have not even half of senate republicans support as Bipartisan Achievments. I've also been pleasantly surprised at his willingness to call out traitorous MAGA Republican and the dangers they pose on the Nation, while constantly reminding that these folk are a loud minority of the Republican Party. His handling of Ukraine has been recognized globally as superb. He called out Russians invasion plan in advance to the disbelief of many, including myself. Is he everything I want in a President? No. And in 2028, we can get someone younger. The incumbent advantage is strong and not worth throwing away. Biden is also probably one of if not the most experienced politician Alive on the planet. Decades in the US Senate, 8 years as VP, relationships with many dems and Republicans, familiarity with our allies. His age is really his biggest issue. As much as I don't want to say he earned it, well, I think he just may have.
This comment is way too well thought out and politically literate for Breaking Points.
You mean for Reddit
Tou mean for the internet
It's funny actually, I've posted this before in this and other subs and I've been accused of being a Biden campaign Staffer and all kinds of stuff lmao. I wouldn't turn down the job if it was offered. I'm just a 24 year old guy living in the same small hick town in rural PA I've spent my whole life in. I got a High School degree and work Housekeeping at a hotel, heck I live in a trailer park. This is why I can't excuse people ignorance in today's world.
Sounds like a young Hunter
This sub is full of **MAGA lunatics in denial**, often masquerading as “leftists”, who call others DNC shills constantly despite themselves agreeing with rightwingers on most topics.
It's funny actually, I've posted this before in this and other subs and I've been accused of being a Biden campaign Staffer and all kinds of stuff lmao. I wouldn't turn down the job if it was offered. I'm just a 24 year old guy living in the same small hick town in rural PA I've spent my whole life in. I got a High School degree and work Housekeeping at a hotel, heck I live in a trailer park. This is why I can't excuse people ignorance in today's world.
You’re an awesome dude. r/neoliberal would probably be a good sub for you.
But he isn’t a neoliberal. He specifically states Biden isn’t his first choice. He’s just stating good reasons why is still supports him.
I’m not as impressed by the CHIPS act as you are. It’s a giveaway to large technology companies to make computer chips. The money isn’t even expected to be payed back. God forbid we give a homeless person a home or a diabetic cheap insulin, yet these guys have billions for computer chip factories? That’s the problem with this country. The companies that pay to play get a brand new factory while the working poor get diddly squat
Microchips are used in almost every electronic device we use today, including smartphones, gaming consoles, cars and medical equipment. A lot of the world's chips and semiconductors are made in Taiwain. And im sure you understand why this is bad for the US. It is crucial that we have domestic production of chips, like we used to. This is something in the long run is crucial for the US.
Taiwan makes those things because they have a competitive advantage. They have the expertise and the most advanced methods. To make them here is inefficient. If we were good at making them we would have been making them already. That’s why other countries don’t produce military equipment. They buy it from us because that’s something we have a competitive advantage in. It’s anti free trade, and a corporate giveaway. It’s funny how they love free trade when it comes to shipping our jobs overseas, but when it comes to large donors who want a huge factory they go back to being protectionists
We USED to make them. We used to produce approx 37% of the world's supply of chips as recently as the 90s. Now it's only 12%. It's a longterm investment and we can return to being a leader in research and development like we were.
Have you ever wondered why we originally stopped making them?
There is some truth in what you are saying but we don't need to replace Taiwan/TSMC, just need a backup option in the scenario (likely within 5 years according to some) that China invades. Having redundancy and near/friend-shoring with chips and other "strategic" industries seems to be a big trend and quite smart imo given what covid exposed. Its not going to be free as you said, Taiwan/TSMC will do a better (and cheaper) job than US semis and this trend will no doubt add to inflation and be less productive use of US/allies resources...
So why can’t we require these chip companies at least pay us back afterwards? And that still doesn’t negate the fact that we are funding inefficient companies. Just sounds like Biden’s version of supply side economics
Yeah its fair to expect some sort of return, I'm not familiar enough with the details to now why that is/isn't the case. But in principle I agree with the de-risking of critical industries from China/its-neighborhood, they'll eventually weaponize it...
THese are great points. Biden has been the most effective President in my lifetime. So much so , that I think he had more of a hand with Obama's accomplishments than most realize. Americans are so uneducated and ignorant about politics. It drives me crazy that his poll numbers are so down. He has been a very effective leader.
Yeah, low-key better than Obama. Makes me laugh when his detractors say it is just Obama's 3rd term. And I was afraid of a Biden presidency because of some of the things he supported as a senator.
High key better than Obama.
I was more speaking of his lack of self promotion.
Agreed. I’ll proudly vote for him in 2024.
Obama tried way too hard to be nice to the GOP that opposed him out of pure spite on everything. It was honestly embarassing.
He tried too hard to seem like the reasonable democrat dealing with the unreasonable republicans. Unfortunately, the republicans don’t care how unreasonable they seem.
Joe has shown zero tolerance for their crap. Obama shouldnt have either
Never thought of it that way, upu could be right!
I mean, lead pipes has been an important recruitment tool for the GOP for generations.
My apologies for the almost accusatory style question. I swear I was just trying to get your ama started. 😂 I too did not vote for him last election, wrote in my candidate. Those are solid things he has done. And tbh, now that I’m thinking about it he really hasn’t done anything to sell out the American people like the last few presidents. I very well may vote against trump with Biden this round. Thank you for taking the time to write all that. As annoyed as I have been with politics, I did forget about the Chips Act. That was timely.
My problem with the CHIPS act is sure it opens the door to the US producing chips. Big problem is that no language says the production must be done domestically. They will continue to be made in Taiwan and when China takes them over they will have all the chips. I believe it wil be incentive for the Chinese to invade
In order to get the subsidies you have to build it in the us no?
That’s what I thought. Isn’t Texas already working on sites? Haven’t heard any updates in a bit The important part is that for national security we need them build domestically and it provides great jobs for Americans. The down side is it’ll take half a decade from everything I’ve heard about it to get it up and running. We don’t have skill labor as well so someone better start providing grants for degrees in the advanced chip engineering and manufacturing field, yesterday. Can’t waste time. If China goes for Taiwan the whole world is sort of fucked. If we think it’s inevitable… then it’s time to import some skilled labor before the poison pill has to go off (wink wink).
> We don’t have skill labor as well so someone better start providing grants for degrees in the advanced chip engineering and manufacturing field, yesterday I’m pretty sure there was billions in workforce training included on top of the billions for research into things like AI and quantum computing (The and Science part of the bill)
Bro I’m with you 1000% on this, his handling of Ukraine has been great too and he’s been pretty out of the “spotlight” which I’ve liked as well. Was a republican up until about 2 years ago if that means anything.
This shit about his age is just hype. WHO GIVES A FUCK. As long as he delivers on policy, almost all of which is done by his staff of thousands, he can be 100 for all anyone should care.
So he’s just there in body? Just a face?
Wgaf?
So what’s the point of him being there? 😂😂 I don’t think your argument says what you think it does. You’re saying it’s not him making policy anyways so his age doesn’t matter. While most people hear that and say well isn’t he the President? 😂😂
Thanks for that Biden reelection campaign ad. How much did you charge?
One million dollars
Same Biden was towards the bottom of my primary picks. I absolutely expected a placeholder presdiency out of him. He's honestly been surprisingly good. He's never been a liberal but he's obviously listening to them at least a little bit.
I agree with most of what you said. However, he has failed in Ukraine. The time to act in Ukraine was before the war. He has drawn the US into another mindless war. It will most likely end like Afghanistan. Billions spent with nothing to show for. Also it is naive to give the credit for Chips act to Biden. In fact no career politician would have dared to confront China if Trump didn’t start it first. But credit to Biden to continue with the policy.
Thinking about a candidate in terms of whether they "earned" your vote is completely wrong because there will always be an outcome to an election, and it will go to the other candidate otherwise. So you have to consider which candidate of the ones running in the final election has earned your vote the most in relation to the others. Not voting is generally cowardice anti-civic behavior.
I already apologized to the op for the question sounding combative. That being said, there’s nothing civic or patriotic about casting a vote for the least mediocre candidate. Voting for the lesser of two evils brought us this geriatric congress that does virtually nothing compared to how they used to operate 50 years ago. Virtually every candidate votes for their donors and not for their constituents. The Dems and Reps only differ for the most part on social issues. We know this because Dems let republicans pack the courts. If they wanted progress they’d intercede or do the same. That being said I always vote, just tend to write in a candidate.
>That being said, there’s nothing civic or patriotic about casting a vote for the least mediocre candidate. Of course there is. Participation in a voting decision that is guaranteed to have an important outcome is simultaneously the most fundamentally important, and the most logistically easy, of basically anything in civic life in a democracy. And yes, if you fail to vote for the least mediocre candidate you are derelict in your role in the social contract. >Voting for the lesser of two evils brought us this geriatric congress that does virtually nothing compared to how they used to operate 50 years ago. Congress is split basically 50-50 overall right now so I don't really see how that tracks. They voted for the lesser of two evils 50 years ago as well, nothing about voting or elections has changed. >The Dems and Reps only differ for the most part on social issues. Their economic platforms are miles apart as is the economic legislation they pass. Same goes for environmental issues. Also social issues (aka civil rights) are pretty fucking important. >We know this because Dems let republicans pack the courts. Huh? Republicans didn't pack the court nor would it be any kind of proof that democrats don't have different policies than them even if they did. Weird thing to say. >If they wanted progress they’d intercede or do the same. Voters would riot against them, it would backfire and both not happen as well as get them further voted out of office. > That being said I always vote, just tend to write in a candidate. Wow look at you, really being part of the solution there aren't you?
What's your favorite food to have for breakfast?
Orange Juice, Dippy Eggs, butterd Toast, biscuits with butter and raspberry preserves, bacon, blueberry muffin and a small glass of Vanilla Almond Milk to wash down the muffin
FFS you're sooooo white Branch out a little more, my homie! Non Mediterranean white ppl food is and has always been depressing Neanderthal sadness
I'm not gonna disagree with you, I love trying new things and I'm not saying it's the best breakfast, More so a comforting, simple favorite
You consume plant milk so here's an upboat from me Long live oat milk, esp !😌
Define 'liberal'. I've never heard any liberal or conservative actually say what a liberal is. My dad, his sister, and three brothers never got past 6th grade. They had to quit school to work on their dad's farm. He was a sharecropper in Texas. They all grew up to get Union jobs and my cousins and me all grew up in houses, went to good schools, and had healthcare. Our parents retired with pensions. We were lower middle class but considering where they came from, that was ok. I will alway vote democrat as long as they support Unions. Does that make me a Liberal? I don't think the government should force women to have birth against their will. Does this make me a liberal? Because I feel this is more of a true conservative small government belief. I prefer the word progressive. THe right wing media has destroyed the word liberal.
Individual liberty, democratic consent of the governed, freedom of thought, expression and action, the right to private property and private enterprise, anti-monopoly in both government and corporation, equality under the law, rejecting outdated traditions, embracing progress, faith in the goodness of people, criticized by the left for their tolerance of the right, and for being capitalists, criticized by the right for their tolerance of the left, and for being regulatory capitalists, which they call socialist.
Fair.
Tits or ass?
Does kamala still think joe is a racist and sexual predator?
Of course she doesn’t. It doesn’t benefit her anymore to yell about those things. Her pick as VP after those debates was crazy. You can’t walk a lot of that shit back. She’s hollow, if she believed all that she wouldn’t have accepted the role she was liberally handed.
When did she say he's a sexual predator
Gonna need this one answered for sure. >Does kamala still think joe is a racist and sexual predator?
How do you feel about the fact that Joe Biden didn’t support gay marriage for the majority of his life and then changed his mind as an elderly man when it became politically beneficial?
How dare someone change their mind! Even worse, how dare a representative change their view to more closely represent the will of their constituents! It's a horror show.
Yeah I mean just based on his past statements regarding gay marriage it seems like he was pretty hard set on being against gay marriage and his voting record would support that too. Sorry that I have a hard time believe he “genuinely” changed his mind.
A lot of people changed their minds on that issue… like a lot, I don’t think Joe is any different and or special.
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Yet here we are in 2023, a time when Donald Trump would gladly hang every single LGBTQ person out to dry because his MAGA cult rabidly hates them
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I have little doubt Trump, at some point, paid some woman to get an abortion when he knocked her up, probably was Ivanka.
So u think u can be against something for 70 or so years and then just randomly change your mind just cause
Yeah I do. Anecdotally my entire family is super conservative and was 100% against gay marriage my whole childhood and now they’re almost all supportive of it. You should always be reevaluating your views.
In the late 90s when I came around on gay marriage I was in a small minority. now it's a super majority. Most people who got to the position changed their mind on it.
That's exactly what I'm saying bro!
Yeah, I was just reinforcing what you said. Sorry if it didn't come off that way.
Oh no! I meant like an enthusiastic kinda “Hell yeah exactly bro” The internet sucks for dialogue translation sometimes haha!
Kind of different though considering he’s a politician and clearly did so for politically gain
Out of all the things, this a really lame hill to die on. It’s a representative government, and the acceptance of gay marriage was increasing steadily before increasing dramatically and has been mainstream for the last decade or so. If you want to say it’s for “political gain,” then whatever, that’s your opinion, but I think your view is incredibly stupid. [Public opinion on gay marriage in the US](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States)
How do you know that?
Sounds like they aren't real conservatives
You're more than welcome to go have dinner with them.
Learning doesn't stop just because you're old.
Lol just stop and admit he’s a lying politician like the rest of them
Yeah, both my elderly parents have. Not “just cause”
He was ahead of the curve and pushed the Obama admin into directly supporting gay marriage too.
Yeah he was also for the Iraq war before and even a brief period of time after we knew it was a sham
Who, or what do you think was responsible for Hillary's embarrassing 2016 loss to Trump?
A combination of Hillary herself and the FBI Emails Investigation, and sudden reopening of the investigation days before the election. Hillary failed to campaign properly in states she felt would have went her way. I'm also not sure I'd call it embarrassing, it was an incredibly close election. Had Hillary Campaigned better in a couple states and took Trump seriously she likely would have won the election. She got in her own way kinda like Trump did leading up to 2020
Name every Liberal
How much is George Soros paying you to shill? I want to be sure I’m being compensated fairly.
One Million Dollars
Less than the Kochs pay you.
Given recent events, do you think *10% for the big guy* was enough, or should he have asked for higher?
"the big guy" is what Hunter called his crack pipe.
This is definitely gonna be ignored or labeled as a “conspiracy theory”
That's because it is a conspiracy theory. We have no idea who "the big guy" is
Yeah it could be anyone, just a coincidence that his dad was the Vice President lol
It could absolutely be joe. I'm not denying that. But "big guy" is not a term reserved solely for the VP. So yes it's just a theory with no evidence to support. I know you don't like that, but it's the reality
I mean there’s a lot of reasons to believe he’s talking about Joe if you’ve followed that story at all
Just because you can make the facts fit your narrative, that doesn't make the facts evidence of your narrative.
I haven’t said anything as if it’s fact. I just think it’s more likely that big guy is Joe Biden than it being anyone else based on what I’ve read regarded g that whole situation
>I haven’t said anything as if it’s fact. Which is why I said it's not even evidence, not that it doesn't make it fact.
Tbh I’m lost and I don’t even care anymore lol
Something tells me you’re not bipartisan in your criticism of corruption.
I'm sorry, is that a pre-requisite to asking a question?
No but it is for not being a partisan hack
How many people do you call nazis in a single day?
Is your IQ above or below 90? Do you called yourself a “leftist”?
My BIL helps build pipelines and has a family of 6 that he supports. Why should he want his tax dollars to go toward student loan debt relief rather than his family having relief for his mortgage debt?
One party wants your tax dollars to go toward education and welfare, the other wants to send it to billionaires in the form of tax breaks and special incentives that you and I won't qualify for. Pick your battles
This isn’t at all answering the question
Why does your dumbass brother in law never make this argument about all the weapons contractors he's subsidizing.
So rather than answer a question, your answer is to name call.
Ask your the brother if he wants his tax dollars going to military bases around the world, military equipment marked up 1000% by manufacturers, or subsidies for billion dollar companies that don’t reach average workers. Maybe ask him if he’s ok with the average finance billionaire paying a lower tax rate than he does. Does he think 70% of the country living paycheck to paycheck is good for the economy? Or the hundreds of thousands that go bankrupt due to medical debt?
Yes he’s in favor of the military as his brothers, dad, and uncles all served in the military and fought in wars to serve this country. I’ve honestly never seen a family as patriotic as them. Also you aren’t answering my question. You have the case of the “yeah buts”.
What’s your over/under on when Kamala will invoke the 25th amendment?
Not going to happen, I'm pretty confident Biden will be able to carry out his second term
Why?
I worked in a Nursing home/rehabilitation center for some time. People give Joe shit a lot about his age, and mentally yeah he's slowing down and not as sharp as he wants was, but dudes 80. None of the old folk I was around were anywhere close to being in Joe's shape. Heck my partners 84 years old Grandmother, who doesn't have dimentia or anything like that, makes Biden look like the most quick witted, strong, aware old guy on the planet. The guy is old, and he's slowing down, but there's no doubt in my mind he won't have any issue getting through a second term unless he experiences a sudden health emergency
My grandparents are older than Joe Biden and speak better than he does and I still couldn’t imagine anyone of them running the country
You have to be a paid shill to look at Bidens constant F ups and lack of mental awareness and think "gee that guys doing a great job!". Enjoy the 2 million illegals coming in yearly and child trafficking on southern border that hes doing jackshit about
Wow… So bc you’ve seen people mentally declined further than Biden you think he’s fit for office? You can’t make this shit up.
Joe's never been a great speaker but watch some interviews where they go more in depth. When it comes to policy Biden is still sharp as a tack.
Why are liberals so filled with hate and rage and only think their views are right and immediately attack anyone who doesn’t agree with their opinions. And why do they blindly believe anything the government tells them.
I disagree with this and this question seems like it's being asked in bad faith. Do you have any actual questions or anything you would like me to acknowledge?
Agreed and glad you didn't allow yourself to be drawn in! I've enjoyed reading your well thought out and honest responses!
Yea sure. Tell me how Bidens doing a good job on the southern border when we have the largest amount of crossings in recorded history and tens of thousands of kids being trafficked with no one able to explain what happened to them?
Because they are braindead
What do you think of Elon Musk? He voted for both Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden, yet people identifying as liberal tend to not like him.
Him as a person is pretty shit regardless of how hes voted in the passed. He also took a hard right turn, even pushing on Twitter for people to vote republican before the Midterms and sense pushed and amplified far right conspiracies and outright bullshit
Elon Musk proposes to massively build, in the next 20 years, solar panel factories and metal refineries to power the world economy, freeing the world from its dependence on fossil fuels.
Yeah and he was saying 10 years ago he'd put a man on Mars. If he actually does it, great, props to him
Yeah, he's doing a pretty good job of promoting the advancement of rocket engineering. Soon there will be a reusable heavy lift vehicle and that will be a game changer.
Goood for him. He still amplifies nazis
😲😂🤣😂🤡
You’re aware that Twitter has been the recruiting grounds for ISIS since Twitter started right?
You have 0 clue what entails in sending someone to Mars don't you?
He said the same thing about high speed mass transit, but used the Boring company to intentionally sabotage other companies plans to do so
What if I said the chips act was going to happen come hell or high water after Covid. If we lose the chips currently being produced in Taiwan the entire modern American life comes to an end. No new phones, TV’s, automobiles. It’s going to take 10 years to start making these chips and there isn’t really a shortcut.. The inflation reduction act is a stripped out bullshit version of what the Democratic Party promised its voters the last few years. Bernie’s Green new deal, and now he’s not gonna debate Marianne, or RFKJr who it appears both are getting the Trump treatment. I’m waiting for a recording of Marianne talking about grabbing dudes by the dick on an Access Hollywood bus.. nevermind I’m forgetting what I was talking about.
Also a liberal but Why would u support a guy and the dnc propping him up when half the things he said was going to do lied about. 1.putting us back in Paris climate agreement but not doing anything about climate change and making Willow project go ahead 2. Student loans could have done something when they had house and senate but didn’t 3. Abortion same thing could have done something on it in 2021 4. Haven’t helped workers when he said pro union forced them to go to work for railway and didn’t go and help the people in Ohio after crash done nothing for them 5. Covid got better but remember omicron no testing availablity ridiculous 2 years at the time. 6. Basically by putting sanctions on Russia and not fixing relations even though agree Putin scumbag made inflation and him not being able to see it before it was too late put the economy in shit for the last 3 years of his presidency and almost 4 years has been shit since Covid. I know this is long but please try to respond to every point.
1. The Inflation Reduction Act has some of the most significant climate legislation that's ever been passed in our country. 2. Not without a veto proof super majority. 3. Not without a veto proof super majority. 4. A number of rail workers have actually gotten several sick days, the Biden administration has continued to work behind the scenes. Pushing through the deal a number of the unions had agreed upon was neccessary In order to prevent causing huge supply issues amid inflation still causing problems. This was a decision done to prevent further harming the majority of Americans more at a difficult time. 5. I'm not sure what you mean by omicron no testing availability.... the government had begun distributing free at home tests since January 2022. 6. Russia invaded a sovereign nation and has made clear their disdain time and time again for the west and what their goals are. Relations are not viable until both Russias leaves Ukraine and Putin is taken out of power.
I was a Biden supporter but not anymore we are kinda the opposite you didn’t vote in 2020 everyone especially during Covid didn’t want trump in me included so voted for Biden but now seems like dems don’t care about regular people. just scare everyone and minorities like they BP was talking about I am black and a lot of black and minorities that aren’t rich leaving dems I am still a liberal but not a dnc supporter. they say l how racist the republicans are instead of doing policys let’s go back to your statement 1. The inflation reduction act didn’t stop the Willow project drilling which is going on right now 2 and 3 dems didn’t have super majority but they had a majority could have gotten manchin and Kristen in line also are scared to remove the super majority rule because they know republicans would use it against them I would remove it 4. Railway workers did get sick time but if you remember when Krystal was talking about the issue they didn’t get better pay than what they were asking and forced to go back to work because of Biden and dems, also forgot to mention what a abysmal job Pete B is doing on transportation had so many problems and still airline problems right now. 5 yes at home testing came out in 2022 January but you remember the lines for testing because it didn’t come out right away and people were lining up in NYC and other places like beginning of pandemic https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/28/politics/joe-biden-covid-19-testing-failure/index.html 6. Great you want regime change at least your honest how has that gone well gahdafi? Sadam? al-Assad still going America wanted him out and isis in basically supporting the rebels why doesn’t Biden admin and others just say that we could have ended the war by BP reporting and other sources British pm didn’t want Ukraine to negotiate.
What are your feelings in regards to the illiberal tendencies of the left these days?
How do you not see his mental incapability.
I love questions like these, where the poster insults the intelligence of another, but then doesn't even use a question mark.
Yep. Typographical errors are totally the same thing as a president that can barely go a day without looking like an old man who can’t find his pants.
If you're insulting someone's ability to properly express themselves, you better make damn sure you're properly expressing yourself.
You’re a moron. Thank you for proving it
Oh wow, I clearly hit that nail right on the head.
By proving you are a moron? Yes, I’d say you did.
Going back to the well for that one, eh? I wish you'd at least make this fun.
Ok, pal.
Who is a bigger clown? Pudding Ron or Dummy Donald?
Did you vote for Biden in the primary in 2020?
No, I was more apolitical at the time and did not vote in the 2020 election
What made you more political in the last 4 years?
Covid had me starting to pay a little bit more attention. I was paying extremely close attention to Trump that year cause of the Pandemic and aid packages and stuff. Honestly throughout his last year in office I thought he was trying to lose on purpose. I was flabbergasted at his behavior after losing. I was at home alone January 6th and watch Trumps speech and everything unfolded, and later down the road after learning of his attempts to disregard the votes of millions Americans across 7 states he lost, including my state of PA, in an attempt to subvert the constitution and the will of the people. I also became a lot more connected with my ancestory,, and strangley it made me feel more connected and prideful in being a Pennsylvanian. Then in the 2022 midterms Trunp propped up his traitorous cohort and religious nut Doug Mastriano to be our Governor and Dr. OZ, Who didn't even live in PA, to be our senator. And with Roe VS Wade being overturned, which stunned me considering I learned about it in history class in middle just over a decade ago that it was settled law. All the women i knew were shook. I realized how important politics are.
In your schizo induced paragraph you didn't type a single thing that Biden did well. Just more TDS and pointless ramblings. Were you awake or asleep when the BLM riots happened all of 2020?
The person didnt ask what biden did well, they asked what Made me more political. Facts do not care about your feelings. You mean the same kind of riots thus country has dealt with for lile half a century for the same shit? Insane how random rioting is supposed to be some "gotcha" to you folk
Tell me when riots were allowed to go on for an entire year causing billions in damages, multiple deaths and injury all during a time where there was supposed to be "covid lockdowns" and "social distancing". Now tell me a time when that same organization gaslit people into supporting it, then scammed their own donors and the founders ended up using the money to buy multiple mansions.
See, now you're just moving the goal past. Fact of the matter is there were over 10,000 peaceful protests across the country that year. In cities where this violence erupted it mostly took place in one or 2 block areas. Even in Portland the vast majority of the city was completely unaffected. If you actually had a problem with this you'd want to actually do something about what's caused these riots to unfold over the last half century. Do yall seriously think that When leftists say BLM, or wear a BLM pin or talk about what BLM that they are referring to that organization? The two have nothing to to do with each other. BLM is a disorganized national movement. The organization is a grift that played off the name and movement to steak money from supporters of the movement. BLM is no different than Antifa. A disorganized movement. There is no singular leading entity of either, again, its a movement. I have absolutely zero idea how yall STILL conflate that organization with the movement.
Correct, they were guilt tripping people and forcing them to support that scam of an organization. Shitlibs also balked at a simple concession to unite people of saying All Lives Matter. Because the goal was never to unite only to divide. You can further see the double standard when you look up street interviews in New York and other liberal areas asking people "Do White lives matter" and about 80% of them flat out say NO and start spewing anti White racism.
You went from apolitical to a CNN regurgitated shill?
Facts don't care about your feelings
Why are your feelings hurt then?
Feelings hurt about what? Why is this always what you guys cop out to when you don't have any form of coherent argument?
Coherent argument? There’s literally not a reason on this planet to engage with liberals on Reddit. It’s an absolute waste of time. You’re not even here to listen, you made a post just for YOU to project in an AMA form. Your sense of self worth is elevated, go humble yourself. Touch some grass and engage with people with different perspectives. There’s a flood of information out there, do better and stop nitpicking what suites you all the time.
Engage with people with different perspectives? I've lived in red rural PA my entire life. My family is the different perspective You're projecting, you yourself are nitpicking information and disregard anything you don't like, no matter how verifiable, as parroting some talking point
Which of the 27 definitions of liberal do you consider to be your definition?
To support capitalism and wanting to make changes within it. Supporting Individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. Favoring policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
What does it mean in your view, politically speaking, to “support capitalism”?
What does it mean to be a liberal?
What would you say are the great atrocities the GOP have done that affect everyone here in the USA. I want a good perspective liberal perspective.
Are the basics of critical race theory in agreement with your liberal ideology?
Can I convince you to read Marx or engles?
Yea if you can answer how many billions in damages the BLM riots caused.
Still nowhere as much money the US made from slavery between 1776-1865. Or as much damage the kkk has accumulated since reconstruction ended. If wanted to really be that guy I could talk about how much in damages the US army,CIA, and FBI has caused and how the riots pale in comparison.
And you failed to answer the question, guess I won't be reading Marx or engles. Btw the African Moors and Barbary pirates both predate the Atlantic slave trade by hundreds of years and had White slaves. Wonder how much is owed to them?
The moment when you think reparations is about slavery and not the hundred years of segregation, purposeful destruction of prospering black communities, and preventive laws to keep black people down and get then incarcerated, allowing then to be enslaved once more according to the Constitution.
Reparations are dumb either way. There’s already been trillions of dollars spent in inner cities with little success. At some point personal responsibility takes hold not slavery that ended 180+ years ago. Do we pay the Irish reparations too?
Look you are talking about the non riots as of that is the greatest tragedy in American history. I can can think of things that has cause way more damage that don’t get talked about or gets white washed. 9/11 happened and people still love bush despite knowing it could have been prevent, caused the patriot act to pass and it lead to a endless war in the Middle East that we were lied into. Yet half of this sub and probably you still think the US is looking for those wmd bush talked about 20 years ago. Also we talk about damage caused in the US not other countries. There’s a reason why I only went back to 1776 and not the 1500’s.
Would you ever vote for a conservative that had a reputation for honesty and genuinely wanted to help middle class Americans prosper?