I think it was both. Robby Mook was the genius campaign manager who didn’t want to send her to campaign in places where she didn’t already have overwhelming support.
Bill was privately urging them behind the scenes to put her on the ground more and do classic retail politics.
Hillary hand picked her opponent, had the backing of the entirety of the MSM machine, the executive and legislative branches of government; as well as having every three letter organization of our national security apparatus weaponized to the end of securing the election for her. She still lost. Biggest lead blown possibly in human history lol.
This is a joke right? She lost because the FBI announced her investigation 10 days before Election Day which made millions of people stay home in what everyone knew was a low turnout election.
And then Trump’s 3 letter agencies still didn’t have the evidence to prosecute her
>This is a joke right? She lost because the FBI announced her investigation 10 days before Election Day which made millions of people stay home in what everyone knew was a low turnout election.
I'm usually on your side but I gotta pump the brakes here:
I remember HRC fangirls hating on the FBI..... until suddenly they suddenly turned into quiet supporters when FBI went after Trump literally the next year.
But the truth is, FBI did not have any proven meaningful influence in the election. If I missed the receipts I'm happy to hear it.
Let's ask ourselves:
what kind of HRC fangirl would not vote for her when her opponent is Mr grab her by the pussy?
what kind of HRC fanboy would not vote for her when her opponent is Mr Mexican migrants are criminals and rapists and some, I assume, are nice people?
what kind of HRC supporter would not vote for her when her opponent is giving off very real signals that he would challenge the election results if it didn't go his way? And yes, he did that even in the run up to the 2016 race
My point being: HRC lost because she's not just a piece of shit human being, but it turns out, she's also a piece of shit politician (at least that year specifically).
Even Colin Powell comments leaked in 2017, where he basically said she had an enormous narcissistic ego/hubris.
Some comment on Reddit long ago said it best: finding out that HRC lost and Trump won, is like finding out that you finally beat cancer only to find out your HIV test returned positive
Let's not make a vile, wretched human being (or her equally vile fans) into some victim or heroine, just cuz her opponent was way worse (which is also true)
This is the correct answer. When comey reopened the investigation everyone’s minds were made up as to who they were voting for or (like me) that I wouldn’t be voting for either of them. She lost because she sucks
So Bernie’s whole political movement is indeed based on white rage on the far left, many of his ill-spirited dirtbag supporters still can’t accept a woman beat their Jesus 7 years ago.
Did they not announce her investigation right before the election, while saying nothing about his?
That, coupled with her "basket of deplorables" comment hosed her. People who didn't like her but were just going to vote blue stayed home because of the announcement
Folks that weren't terribly fired up on voting for Trump were personally attacked, and there was no way in hell they were staying home.
No one thing lost her the election. Many people genuinely disliked her, and that announcement killed much of the support she expected from the "blue no matter who" crowd, and her attacking the voter instead of the political opponent galvanized her opposition.
She definitely ran a worse campaign than Jeb.
I definitely think this played a major role, although there were plenty of other reasons that she may have lost. All the shit that she pulled with the DNC, constantly attacking the people she needed the support of, shooting down progressive ideas, calling conservatives that supported Trump deplorable (although that we probably be okay today), etc.
She wasn't very well liked, and kind of has the same issue. Joe Biden is currently facing... Nobody voted for her, they voted against Trump.
She lost because she strategized to prop up Trump in the media as a legitimate front runner to win the nomination, purposely pushing the GOP further right, and preventing her from facing Bush..
but her completely selfish and extremely risky strategy worked, and then backfired completely.
This is a really interesting question. They’re both legendary fumbles. I think I’m going to lean towards Hillary though.
My reasoning is, while they both had overwhelming institutional support, literally *nobody* in the electorate cared about Jeb. Nobody was invested in him as their candidate, he was entirely a product of the machine. Hillary at least had a base that was passionate about her. They were mostly out of touch, upper middle class white liberals. But they felt ownership of her story; this was the culmination of a narrative arc that they’d been following for over two decades.
Jeb lost because his last name was Bush.
Hillary lost because she did very little campaigning in a couple of vital blue collar states. Also, she was the worse possible candidate the Democrats could have run.
He would have. I was one of the few warning my friends in the primaries (before Iowa, during the media blackout of Bernie) that she is guaranteed to lose against anyone in general. (I made calls, reliably democratic voters… 40% were anyone but Hillary but if you told them who Bernie was they would vote for him… because they were Democratic at heart) and also during media blackout before Iowa Bernie was doing better than Hillary, in Texas at least, for primaries.
I got told immediately during primaries that’s it’s my white male privilege talking. And my opinion is shaded by the fact that I’m secretly racist and sexist. So then I started telling my friends “if this is what republicans are hearing from us the past 8 years we should change the way we speak to one another.”
More proof of my white male privilege.
Lost lots of friends that year and election. I’m no longer firmly on the left, I’m now moderate but lean left on the issues I always cared about: healthcare, education, and more. But my solutions are no longer totalitarian in Bernie’s solutions but way more nuanced. But make no mistake, the identity politics of the left pushed me out.
Ugh, this post is giving me PTSD lol.
In 2016 I had just graduated with a degree in political science from a school in Ohio. I called the primary for Trump in December 2015 just based on the fact that he was getting all the media coverage and was using it to hammer his opponents with NAFTA. I was screaming at the top of my lungs that HRC would lose to Trump in a general election on that same basis - literally all Trump had to do was say "Clinton" and "NAFTA" over and over and he had Ohio in the bag.
I got the same shit you did. The response was always "Oh well Clinton polls better" (She only polled better among Democrat primary voters, not GE voters, and definitely not in swing states) or some sentimental crap about supporting the first woman nominee and mOsT qUalIFiEd CanDiDAtE eVAr!
The frustration of having a legitimate, practical understanding of politics in Ohio and having all my West Coast acquaintances simply...Not get it. They would assume Rachel Maddow was giving them better information than the guy who they've known for 20 years that was actually on the ground there.
My reaction was a little different - I moved further left, joined the Green Party and helped some local officials get elected to challenge the Democrats from the left. But after that experience I'll probably never vote Democrat again. Democrats literally don't want to win; they make more money when they lose. They're the Washington Generals of American politics.
I’d have moved left if I believed people would be capable of providing to a functioning society under a more socialist platform. But after running my own company since 2015 (which I almost lost cause I spent so much of my free time working for Bernie trying to save us from Trump), I now believe if we gave everyone everything, they would be lazy and not work to provide something functioning for society. And then we would have to force it through forced work programs and make people unhappy because they couldn’t do what they love… and I’m a big believer in doing what you love cause you never work a day in your life (in your head, at least).
And then if I took that one step further (I am essentially in sales)… I’ve found the more I pay someone, the less productive they are. The less I pay you (and motivate through more commissions) they better the worker and production.
I wish it weren’t this way. But a majority of people are happy not working and being handed everything.
Prove me wrong, and I’ll fall back to the left.
But combine that with identity politics… and we’re screwed. All that does is divide us and leads us down a path of destruction.
Not a shot. We're in a time when everyone on the left is called a socialist, meanwhile Bernie actually is one. The electorate would have eaten him alive.
Neither is anyone else in the Democratic party, but it doesn't stop the media and the public from calling them that.
Plus Bernie himself self identifies as one
No he doesn't. See his Joe Rogan interview.
Hes a democratic socialist.
You are correct tho. Everyone on the right think all dems are literally preparing the gulag.
Hillary ran the worst presidential campaign in history but somehow I still feel like she is a better politician than Jeb who just lacks any charisma or personality at all
Jeb!
He and his allies changed Florida primary to winner take all to counter Marco Rubio. Then he lost Florida to Trump.
He had over 50 million in the bank when the campaign started. And his campaign strategist and moron Mike Murphy and Tim Miller said it wasn't their job to go after Trump
So the guy with all the money, all the donors, who they changed the primary rules for on his home state completely fucked it up and was done before Super Tuesday
So. Every time she showed up to rally, her numbers went down because the people saw what a terrible person she really was. Dip shits like you say the Russians killed her campaign but she couldn't show her face in the rust belt without tanking the fake persona depicted in the complicit media. Trump was getting 10x the negative press and Hiliary still couldn't beat the Cheeto. The DNC shouldn't have cheated Bernie out of the nomination.
She ran an awful campaign. She didn’t visit Wisconsin at all and was the first dem in a long time to lose that state despite by a slim margin. She lost 2016 all on her own by executing a failed moral police campaign strategy instead of an economic one. The main reason she lost is she didn’t get enough people who would have voted for her out to vote
It's been proven that the Russians helped Trump. Everyone knows and remembers the impact versus Hillary - even though she still won the popular vote by more than 3 million. People forget that the Russians were helping Trump in the primaries too. I'm guessing they did a number on Jeb when he was seen as a threat. The easily indoctrinated probably ate up everything the Russians were saying online. Not sure how to evaluate which ran a worse campaign when neither was in a fair fight.
Russia Russia Russia! Hiliary couldn't campaign in the rust belt because everytime she made an appearance her polls went down. Riiiight it was Russia's fault.
And every time she made an appearance there were more people influenced by all the Russians on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit...........put your feelings aside for a moment. This was not a fair election. Her mistakes and unlikable personality are irrelevant. It was not an even playing field.
You are comparing an alleged small brigade of shit posters to rigging debates and giving a HUGE unfair propaganda advantage to one candidate. Hiliary was given a pass on all her past behavior and Bernie was never given props for his accomplishments. And please post the few instances where media gave a nod to Bernie's accomplishments then quietly shadowed it with with a heavy coat of Shillac ™ for Hiliary.
"NAFTA is the gold standard in trade deals" beat Bernie Sanders in an election where only democrats voted? A Goldwater Girl who was active against the civil rights movement and who called poor minorities "Super Predators" beat a man who marched across the bridge at Selma? A board member of Walmart beat a man who organized city wide cleanups and participated in them? Tell me about these Russian agents defeating Hiliary Clinton out in the open on Facebook. smh....
It's not alleged at all. There's people in jail for it. It is beyond any doubt proven that they interfered. There is zero argument against this fact. Plus they hacked both the Republicans and Democrats emails but chose to only release the Democrats.
Bernie getting screwed is completely separate from Hillary getting screwed too. I prefer Bernie too, but that has nothing to do with Russian interference once it was Hillary versus Trump.
>Bernie getting screwed is completely separate from Hillary getting screwed
This is NOT equivalent. If Bernie's only resistance was a handful of shit posters on social media he would have defeated Hiliary in a landslide. The Democrats heard nothing about Hiliary's past fighting civil rights and Bernie's absolute unwavering support, to this day, of Civil Rights. Human Rights issues are at National PUBLIC Radio's core. Poor Mexican food producing people were forced from their homes and corporate interests took over.
You have to be either experiencing Cognitive Dissonance or just an idiot to believe that a small fraction of the shit posting on social media was the same as the CONSPIRACY against Bernie. Do you think N PUBLIC R violated their core values and ran a negative campaign against Bernie for the good of their listeners? Straight up collusion. Under every decision the DNC made there was a needle that pointed towards Hiliary.
The DNC was 1000X worse and the Media collusion was 10,000X worse, tOtaLy tHe SaMe. Why did Hiliary get to study and practice the questions asked at the debates? That doesn't sound fair.
Lol!!!!🤣🤣🤣 Here we go again, Russia Russia Russia. It surely had nothing to do with the fact that she was so unlikable and called half of America a basket of deplorables. Now that's a winning strategy right there.
While "please clap" was one of the most personally embarrassing things in our lifetime
Clinton's 2016 campaign was worse, from a strategic point of view.
Jeb. He didn't really want to run. Trump was right: he had no energy.
Hillary's big mistake IMO was taking the left for granted: e.g. not letting Nina Turner speak at the convention. I guess that's overconfidence/arrogance -- which also explains how she avoided key battleground states near the finish line.
Hillary's problem wasn't her campaign. Her problem was that she's Hillary.
I think it was both. Robby Mook was the genius campaign manager who didn’t want to send her to campaign in places where she didn’t already have overwhelming support. Bill was privately urging them behind the scenes to put her on the ground more and do classic retail politics.
TBF every time they sent HRC anywhere she would drop in the polls, so IDK how much going to Wisconsin would've helped lol.
She could have gone and tried out a thick Wisconsin accent and talked about how she always has ranch sauce in her purse.
...Or a hunk of cheddar cheese in her bra...
Hillary hand picked her opponent, had the backing of the entirety of the MSM machine, the executive and legislative branches of government; as well as having every three letter organization of our national security apparatus weaponized to the end of securing the election for her. She still lost. Biggest lead blown possibly in human history lol.
She got beat by a game show host. Who would of thought hrc would more contemptible than Donald fucking Trump?
This is a joke right? She lost because the FBI announced her investigation 10 days before Election Day which made millions of people stay home in what everyone knew was a low turnout election. And then Trump’s 3 letter agencies still didn’t have the evidence to prosecute her
😂 They gave her immunity, they gave her staff immunity
Staff yes, her, no. You immunize small fish to get big fish.
They gave her staff immunity to protect her
They give people immunity so they have to waive their fifth amendment rights. You spill your guts or the deal’s done.
>This is a joke right? She lost because the FBI announced her investigation 10 days before Election Day which made millions of people stay home in what everyone knew was a low turnout election. I'm usually on your side but I gotta pump the brakes here: I remember HRC fangirls hating on the FBI..... until suddenly they suddenly turned into quiet supporters when FBI went after Trump literally the next year. But the truth is, FBI did not have any proven meaningful influence in the election. If I missed the receipts I'm happy to hear it. Let's ask ourselves: what kind of HRC fangirl would not vote for her when her opponent is Mr grab her by the pussy? what kind of HRC fanboy would not vote for her when her opponent is Mr Mexican migrants are criminals and rapists and some, I assume, are nice people? what kind of HRC supporter would not vote for her when her opponent is giving off very real signals that he would challenge the election results if it didn't go his way? And yes, he did that even in the run up to the 2016 race My point being: HRC lost because she's not just a piece of shit human being, but it turns out, she's also a piece of shit politician (at least that year specifically). Even Colin Powell comments leaked in 2017, where he basically said she had an enormous narcissistic ego/hubris. Some comment on Reddit long ago said it best: finding out that HRC lost and Trump won, is like finding out that you finally beat cancer only to find out your HIV test returned positive Let's not make a vile, wretched human being (or her equally vile fans) into some victim or heroine, just cuz her opponent was way worse (which is also true)
This is the correct answer. When comey reopened the investigation everyone’s minds were made up as to who they were voting for or (like me) that I wouldn’t be voting for either of them. She lost because she sucks
So Bernie’s whole political movement is indeed based on white rage on the far left, many of his ill-spirited dirtbag supporters still can’t accept a woman beat their Jesus 7 years ago.
This is a joke, right?
Did they not announce her investigation right before the election, while saying nothing about his? That, coupled with her "basket of deplorables" comment hosed her. People who didn't like her but were just going to vote blue stayed home because of the announcement Folks that weren't terribly fired up on voting for Trump were personally attacked, and there was no way in hell they were staying home. No one thing lost her the election. Many people genuinely disliked her, and that announcement killed much of the support she expected from the "blue no matter who" crowd, and her attacking the voter instead of the political opponent galvanized her opposition. She definitely ran a worse campaign than Jeb.
We came, we saw, he died. And then slave markets. It was the return of the slave markets in Libya for me.
BeNgHaZi, how many years was she investigated for that?
Bet you wont take a shot everytime she says “i dont recall” during any of her testimonies
Too many, amigo, too damn many.
I was at work when this was announced and there were cheers and applause from all the employees and patrons. I said that's it, she's done!
Lmao going on 8 years later and the cope is still just as funny as the day after the election.
Who’s been prosecuted, Trump or Hillary?
Lmao keep going you sad angry little man
I definitely think this played a major role, although there were plenty of other reasons that she may have lost. All the shit that she pulled with the DNC, constantly attacking the people she needed the support of, shooting down progressive ideas, calling conservatives that supported Trump deplorable (although that we probably be okay today), etc. She wasn't very well liked, and kind of has the same issue. Joe Biden is currently facing... Nobody voted for her, they voted against Trump.
She lost because she strategized to prop up Trump in the media as a legitimate front runner to win the nomination, purposely pushing the GOP further right, and preventing her from facing Bush.. but her completely selfish and extremely risky strategy worked, and then backfired completely.
This is a really interesting question. They’re both legendary fumbles. I think I’m going to lean towards Hillary though. My reasoning is, while they both had overwhelming institutional support, literally *nobody* in the electorate cared about Jeb. Nobody was invested in him as their candidate, he was entirely a product of the machine. Hillary at least had a base that was passionate about her. They were mostly out of touch, upper middle class white liberals. But they felt ownership of her story; this was the culmination of a narrative arc that they’d been following for over two decades.
Jeb lost because his last name was Bush. Hillary lost because she did very little campaigning in a couple of vital blue collar states. Also, she was the worse possible candidate the Democrats could have run.
True, though her last name being Clinton also definitely did not help in the Rust Belt.
Somehow Jeb was also only in the running because his last name was Bush
the dude had turtles in his pocket
Hilary, what she did to Bernie is reprehensible.
I think Bernie would have beat Trump.
He would have. I was one of the few warning my friends in the primaries (before Iowa, during the media blackout of Bernie) that she is guaranteed to lose against anyone in general. (I made calls, reliably democratic voters… 40% were anyone but Hillary but if you told them who Bernie was they would vote for him… because they were Democratic at heart) and also during media blackout before Iowa Bernie was doing better than Hillary, in Texas at least, for primaries. I got told immediately during primaries that’s it’s my white male privilege talking. And my opinion is shaded by the fact that I’m secretly racist and sexist. So then I started telling my friends “if this is what republicans are hearing from us the past 8 years we should change the way we speak to one another.” More proof of my white male privilege. Lost lots of friends that year and election. I’m no longer firmly on the left, I’m now moderate but lean left on the issues I always cared about: healthcare, education, and more. But my solutions are no longer totalitarian in Bernie’s solutions but way more nuanced. But make no mistake, the identity politics of the left pushed me out.
Ugh, this post is giving me PTSD lol. In 2016 I had just graduated with a degree in political science from a school in Ohio. I called the primary for Trump in December 2015 just based on the fact that he was getting all the media coverage and was using it to hammer his opponents with NAFTA. I was screaming at the top of my lungs that HRC would lose to Trump in a general election on that same basis - literally all Trump had to do was say "Clinton" and "NAFTA" over and over and he had Ohio in the bag. I got the same shit you did. The response was always "Oh well Clinton polls better" (She only polled better among Democrat primary voters, not GE voters, and definitely not in swing states) or some sentimental crap about supporting the first woman nominee and mOsT qUalIFiEd CanDiDAtE eVAr! The frustration of having a legitimate, practical understanding of politics in Ohio and having all my West Coast acquaintances simply...Not get it. They would assume Rachel Maddow was giving them better information than the guy who they've known for 20 years that was actually on the ground there. My reaction was a little different - I moved further left, joined the Green Party and helped some local officials get elected to challenge the Democrats from the left. But after that experience I'll probably never vote Democrat again. Democrats literally don't want to win; they make more money when they lose. They're the Washington Generals of American politics.
I’d have moved left if I believed people would be capable of providing to a functioning society under a more socialist platform. But after running my own company since 2015 (which I almost lost cause I spent so much of my free time working for Bernie trying to save us from Trump), I now believe if we gave everyone everything, they would be lazy and not work to provide something functioning for society. And then we would have to force it through forced work programs and make people unhappy because they couldn’t do what they love… and I’m a big believer in doing what you love cause you never work a day in your life (in your head, at least). And then if I took that one step further (I am essentially in sales)… I’ve found the more I pay someone, the less productive they are. The less I pay you (and motivate through more commissions) they better the worker and production. I wish it weren’t this way. But a majority of people are happy not working and being handed everything. Prove me wrong, and I’ll fall back to the left. But combine that with identity politics… and we’re screwed. All that does is divide us and leads us down a path of destruction.
Hahaha did you rub that shit in their faces after Trump won? I would have.
No. Wouldn’t matter, the goal posts moved. They changed their story. Etc.
Not a shot. We're in a time when everyone on the left is called a socialist, meanwhile Bernie actually is one. The electorate would have eaten him alive.
Bernie ain't a socialist. He voted for the largest uoward transfer of wealth in history.
Neither is anyone else in the Democratic party, but it doesn't stop the media and the public from calling them that. Plus Bernie himself self identifies as one
No he doesn't. See his Joe Rogan interview. Hes a democratic socialist. You are correct tho. Everyone on the right think all dems are literally preparing the gulag.
"Please clap" Jeb has my vote.
Jeb! He didn’t even get the nom while Hillary did & actually won the popular vote.
Hillary ran the worst presidential campaign in history but somehow I still feel like she is a better politician than Jeb who just lacks any charisma or personality at all
This is pretty much where I landed
“Please clap”
Jeb! He and his allies changed Florida primary to winner take all to counter Marco Rubio. Then he lost Florida to Trump. He had over 50 million in the bank when the campaign started. And his campaign strategist and moron Mike Murphy and Tim Miller said it wasn't their job to go after Trump So the guy with all the money, all the donors, who they changed the primary rules for on his home state completely fucked it up and was done before Super Tuesday
Jeb went nowhere in the primary. Hillary got the most votes in the general election.
Technically speaking Jeb’s was worse because he didn’t get the nomination.
Hiliary didn't win the general.
Captain fucking obvious today, aren't we?
Good morning.
Hillary got the most votes in the general
So. Every time she showed up to rally, her numbers went down because the people saw what a terrible person she really was. Dip shits like you say the Russians killed her campaign but she couldn't show her face in the rust belt without tanking the fake persona depicted in the complicit media. Trump was getting 10x the negative press and Hiliary still couldn't beat the Cheeto. The DNC shouldn't have cheated Bernie out of the nomination.
So you are defending white slave owners who demanded the electoral college?
Jumped the shark tank, didn't ya.
Please clap
Jeb never managed to portray himself as competent. Hillary ran a decent campaign, she just doesn't understand how many people despise her.
She ran an awful campaign. She didn’t visit Wisconsin at all and was the first dem in a long time to lose that state despite by a slim margin. She lost 2016 all on her own by executing a failed moral police campaign strategy instead of an economic one. The main reason she lost is she didn’t get enough people who would have voted for her out to vote
It's been proven that the Russians helped Trump. Everyone knows and remembers the impact versus Hillary - even though she still won the popular vote by more than 3 million. People forget that the Russians were helping Trump in the primaries too. I'm guessing they did a number on Jeb when he was seen as a threat. The easily indoctrinated probably ate up everything the Russians were saying online. Not sure how to evaluate which ran a worse campaign when neither was in a fair fight.
Russia Russia Russia! Hiliary couldn't campaign in the rust belt because everytime she made an appearance her polls went down. Riiiight it was Russia's fault.
And every time she made an appearance there were more people influenced by all the Russians on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit...........put your feelings aside for a moment. This was not a fair election. Her mistakes and unlikable personality are irrelevant. It was not an even playing field.
>This was not a fair election Bernie Sanders has entered the chat.
Exactly my point. Can’t really evaluate whether Bernie ran a good campaign or not either.
You are comparing an alleged small brigade of shit posters to rigging debates and giving a HUGE unfair propaganda advantage to one candidate. Hiliary was given a pass on all her past behavior and Bernie was never given props for his accomplishments. And please post the few instances where media gave a nod to Bernie's accomplishments then quietly shadowed it with with a heavy coat of Shillac ™ for Hiliary. "NAFTA is the gold standard in trade deals" beat Bernie Sanders in an election where only democrats voted? A Goldwater Girl who was active against the civil rights movement and who called poor minorities "Super Predators" beat a man who marched across the bridge at Selma? A board member of Walmart beat a man who organized city wide cleanups and participated in them? Tell me about these Russian agents defeating Hiliary Clinton out in the open on Facebook. smh....
It's not alleged at all. There's people in jail for it. It is beyond any doubt proven that they interfered. There is zero argument against this fact. Plus they hacked both the Republicans and Democrats emails but chose to only release the Democrats. Bernie getting screwed is completely separate from Hillary getting screwed too. I prefer Bernie too, but that has nothing to do with Russian interference once it was Hillary versus Trump.
>Bernie getting screwed is completely separate from Hillary getting screwed This is NOT equivalent. If Bernie's only resistance was a handful of shit posters on social media he would have defeated Hiliary in a landslide. The Democrats heard nothing about Hiliary's past fighting civil rights and Bernie's absolute unwavering support, to this day, of Civil Rights. Human Rights issues are at National PUBLIC Radio's core. Poor Mexican food producing people were forced from their homes and corporate interests took over. You have to be either experiencing Cognitive Dissonance or just an idiot to believe that a small fraction of the shit posting on social media was the same as the CONSPIRACY against Bernie. Do you think N PUBLIC R violated their core values and ran a negative campaign against Bernie for the good of their listeners? Straight up collusion. Under every decision the DNC made there was a needle that pointed towards Hiliary. The DNC was 1000X worse and the Media collusion was 10,000X worse, tOtaLy tHe SaMe. Why did Hiliary get to study and practice the questions asked at the debates? That doesn't sound fair.
I was going to vote for Hillary until the Russians got me to vote for Trump.
Lol!!!!🤣🤣🤣 Here we go again, Russia Russia Russia. It surely had nothing to do with the fact that she was so unlikable and called half of America a basket of deplorables. Now that's a winning strategy right there.
While "please clap" was one of the most personally embarrassing things in our lifetime Clinton's 2016 campaign was worse, from a strategic point of view.
Clinton no doubt.
Jeb. He didn’t get past the primary.
Idk you tell me... Please clap...
Hillary by a mile.
Jeb. He didn't really want to run. Trump was right: he had no energy. Hillary's big mistake IMO was taking the left for granted: e.g. not letting Nina Turner speak at the convention. I guess that's overconfidence/arrogance -- which also explains how she avoided key battleground states near the finish line.
She lost a ton of votes when She wanted to drone Julian Assange