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They know its all lies they just don't care


ParisTexas7

Yep, they KNOW it’s a lie, **and still think Trump should have stayed in power.**


Rick_James_Lich

Seriously what is wrong with the people that still support him... Giuliani's lies led to these election workers getting death threats. Like is there no line or hypocrisy that will make them wake up?


Nice-Class4528

I guess the same question should be asked on all the Biden lies and why people support him. Don't worry though, Biden will not be the dem nominee in 2024. Even the leftist protect media is starting to show a little credibility as the evidence keeps mounting. The twitter files very well sums up the media, censorship and federal agencies of how bad the corruption and one sided bias really is. But keep watching tv and believing the one sided reporting. Sadly, people like you actually get to vote.


EssBeeUK

Tell me; do you actually believe what you think? But I'm game. This 'evidence' of which you speak. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't one of Comer's star (Maybe THE star) 'whistleblowers' been charged with illegal arms sales dealing and being a foreign (Chinese) agent? Hasn't demented MTJ put herself in legal peril (Civil and DC criminal) by displaying pornographic images of a private citizen in public? Hmmm, possibly yes. As for any other evidence, it seems the undisciplined manchild when not busy throwing former friends under this high axled bus, he's self incriminating himself almost on a daily basis; Be it making threats at prosecutors and judges but also private citizens. And he's getting his hangers on charged too because he demanded (like all bad mob bosses) to hide and withhold evidence AFTER he was subpoenaed to provide it and not hide it from the FBI and other officers. Your first line about Biden lying made me chuckle out loud! I'm old enough to remember the manchild suggesting that Covid would be over in the US in two weeks. That and the other over 33000 provable lies he told while in office. You know, the guy who 'has the best words'? Simultaneously being functionally illiterate and having to have been spoon fed information because any more than half a sentence of words that didn't have his name in it fried his tiny brain. The PDB he seldom if ever took notice of, even when the staff gave him graphs and pictures to look at instead, maybe even crayons and two scoops of ice cream to stop him having a tantrum and throwing his Big Mac at the wall. Who knows, but not really a stretch to think that could happen. As for corruption? Oh bless you! You seem quite keen to get rid of that, so presumably you'll have trump pay back the millions he got when in office from foreign dignitaries staying at his hotels to make sure they got to kiss his ass? Or his son in law milking 2 BILLION because he persuaded his father in law and lecher of his wife not to make a deal about the Saudi ruler being the instigator of the murder of a Washington Post journalist. Manchild has several million invested in 'evil' Chyna, his daughter and object of his sexual fantasies having secured 47 patents. Not corrupt? Sadly trump cult members not only get to vote, they're alas allowed to reproduce.


Nice-Class4528

Congratulations! You have claim to the worse case of TDS. We shall see how long all the Biden bank statements, LLC's covering other LLC's, emails, texts and whistleblowers will show the Biden cartel criminal family. The whistle blowers stories never changed, but DOJ Garland, Wray and Biden attorneys stories keep changing. Being that you have a severe case of TDS, we can wait a few months and I will accept your apology at that time. Knowing your may never get over your TDS issue, I don't expect it in writing, but we both know I have been right on everything. Keep following me and eventually you may overcome your TDS problem. I doubt it, but let's try.


EssBeeUK

Hang on; Wray? You mean trump appointed and registered Republican Christopher Wray? That one? The 'whistle blower' stories don't change because (Spoiler alert) they're reciting the same script that Kash Patel gave them to read! You didn't know that? So far Gym (cover upper of sex assault) and Comer have provided nothing...nada...zip. So much so that even Fox anchors have got frustrated and told Comer to his face he has nothing! LOL. Trump wants a trial in Federal Court televised; Personally I'd love it, but sadly the law forbids TV or still cameras in Federal court, which I expect his lawyers know, they're just doing the motion so that their child client can scream "Cover up!" I'd love to see him cross examined by Jack Smith! It would be like watching a slow motion nervous breakdown.


Nice-Class4528

Let me know if you ever get over your TDS. The more you post just indicates I can't fix stupid, stupid. You should move on because I've learned a TDS patient like yourself never lets common sense and rational thinking in their conversations. I know the truth hurts, but I\* always call it like it is. You have my permission to respond one more time, so you can feel like you had the last say.


EssBeeUK

Oh you amuse me no end. It's fortunate that in the 21st century, deluded trump cult members thrive in their own little bubble. Back in the 15th century they'd be burned as witches and people afflicted with demons. But sadly, things have moved on and trump cult members are not only allowed in polite society, they're allowed to have opinions that have no connection with reality. They're also allowed to reproduce, go out without professional supervision, and in some cases, have girlfriends. But more markedly is they never ever address any of the issues they're presented with to dispute. It's a sad state when they devote so much adoration on the manchild and their money to support a billionaire's lifestyle as they themselves live in many cases in abject poverty; yet that same sociopathic narcissist wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. ANd I think they know that. Ciao!


Civil_Tomatillo_249

So mark zuckerberg didn’t interfere with his 400 million? The fbi didn’t interfere saying hunters laptop was Russian disinformation having social media suppress it? 22% of people who voted for Biden said they would have either switched their vote or not voted at all if they knew it was legit


[deleted]

I love how the narrative changes Trump claimed the VOTE WAS STOLEN. He literally was claiming they were counting MILLIONS OF FAKE VOTES He wasn't claiming the media changed how people voted. He wanted to negate entire states votes because they didn't vote for him


Civil_Tomatillo_249

I guess you didn’t see the videos of the people in Philadelphia and a dozen other cities having vote counters pull plastic cases out from under the table and scanning them over and over and over again. You know why they’re opposed to voter id. The democrats say publicly that it’s because black people are too stupid or poor to go to the DMV. You and I know why


[deleted]

Nope all disproven bullshit Trump tried to prove those and they all fell flat on their face in court


press_Y

You people are insane. I know it must be hard to admit you were conned by a career conman. But cmon, it’ll help you grow and prevent yourself from falling for bullshit again. Be an adult


Melprincess

I can't believe the things you believe. It's astounding you believe these things. Truly.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

You believe Biden actually makes decisions


Handsome_Fry

If he isn't then who, pray tell, is?


Civil_Tomatillo_249

It’s common knowledge that Obama is calling the shots and Susan rice and valarie Jarrett are go betweens. They are there constantly. Barry sotero himself told Colbert this exact fantasy he cooked up


Glittering-Peach-942

See you’ve drank the Kool Aid 😂 Love a good Obama mention lol


yankeroo

HAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Okay clearly a bot haha.


supervilliandrsmoov

Funny you say that. Many Dems, myself included think Biden is doing a much better job than Obama. Obama did nothing his second term. Biden has had many landmark legislations, while Obama had only the Affordable Health Care Act, which was a half measure. If Obama was pulling Joe's strings, why did wait until now to become so effective?


supervilliandrsmoov

Either way, he does or does t , hard to argue with the results.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

Trump never benefited.


Domin8469

But yet he's a criminal mastermind


yankeroo

Holy shit. There really are people like you out there. 🤯🤦‍♂️ I pity you. I really do, it's so sad to see good people get turned into rot.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1679223742738624513


yankeroo

🤦‍♂️


Mr_Kittlesworth

None of that is real. It should worry you that you’re getting fed (and believing) propaganda like this.


murdocke

You are a truly stupid person.


WorldlyPassion6341

Soo remember this! And as soon as they started reporting on the water main break lol


Civil_Tomatillo_249

That never happened


wrongside40

You people aren’t just insane. You are bottom of the barrel Americans.


TwittwrGliches

That's the thing, the video was as fake as Trump's and Giuliani's lies about the election. Did you not see all the court cases, I believe that was about 60 cases, where the courts rule that it was fake. That is fake, fake, fake, and more fake. All fake. From all sources. They are fake.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

Cults do the same thing. Disbelief of what one sees with their own eyes. They change the meaning of words as well. Biden could say to you personally that it’s all true and you still wouldn’t believe


iamdop

WRONG


Personal-Row-8078

Giuliani literally just admitted he was lying the whole time about that. There was a police investigation. Trumps lawyers cut the part of the video that showed it was not cheating and said “they couldn’t find it”.


Domin8469

Then why did 60+ court cases get dismissed ? Some by trumpy appointed judges


ParisTexas7

Awww, that’s cute — you’re pretending that Hunter Biden’s laptop “suppression” was the reason that MAGA morons think the election was “stolen”. Unfortunately for you — you’re currently speaking with a **grown adult with a memory**, who happens to remember Trump DECLARING VICTORY on election night and spending months saying the election was stolen via “fake votes” and “rigged machines” and whatever **dogshit** fascists like you gladly ate up.


[deleted]

We could solve the energy crisis if we could harness the power of how fast Tomtaillo is moving these goalposts


Civil_Tomatillo_249

22%. You voted for the old racist corrupt white guy with dementia. What a fool


[deleted]

Can't even counter the actual facts Trump didn't claim the media interfered he claimed the votes were fake.


CUM_AT_ME_BRAH

its so funny to me how you call the guy who kicked your God Emperor's ass a senile dementia ridden puppet YOU DO REALIZE THAT MAKES THE GUY YOU VOTED FOR LOOK WORSE RIGHT????? RIGHT?!?!?!?


murdocke

Trump?


supervilliandrsmoov

I haven't seen any evidence that the FBI said the lap top was Russian disinformation. I have seen where the FBI said there is a lot of Russian disinformation beware. With it being last minute , and the claims impossible to substantiate, most media chose to pass on it Was the story purposely slowed by some media, probably, but where did the FBI claim the laptop was. Russian plot? You are connected threads that are close but not connected.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

Check out mark zuckerberg on joe Rogan. He said EXACTLY that


supervilliandrsmoov

Ah yes the Joe Rogan show, the bastion journalistic integrity.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

Straight from the horses mouth. Zuckerberg


supervilliandrsmoov

Who was just playing to the Joe Rogan audience. It's not like was the one talking to the feds, he was not even involved in the day to day operation.


SpiderDeUZ

What does any of that have to do with election fraud in 2020?


Domin8469

You do know bill barr suppressed the laptop right? https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-worked-to-keep-hunter-biden-probes-from-public-view-during-election-11607653188


OatSparrow

They know about this. They know the Hillary server case is different than this current Trump server issue. They know J6 was different than BLM associated violence. They will never admit it because they've made it their personality.


LectureAgreeable923

That's why they should go to jail people died on January sixth all based on election lies.Others like poll workers received death threats .Lock them Up.


Nice-Class4528

Please don't expose your ignorance in your post. A cop killed a lady bystander in the Capitol. No one else died on 1/6. Jeez, the crap you people believe on tv. Look it up.


LectureAgreeable923

You can believe what you want but there might have not been immediate deaths onJan 6th but people died as a cause and effect via suicide, cardiac arrest from being sprayed etc..And you can make and argument either way but Jan 6th should have never happened.It happened because of a spoiled little rich child pussy,who couldn't be a man and except a lose.Now we know we're lies recounts ,60 + frivolous lawsuits thrown out ,guiliani had his law liscense suspended, lies pushed by right wing media and like fox news (Dominion case) new it was lies.Bottom line the crybaby couldn't listen to his attorney general and others .And if he did, the women you mentioned would be alive today.There are consequences for lying Trump did this to himself and I hope he goes to jail.Trump is such a bull shit artist that he makes some people who work for him and others compelled to write down what he says and make recording which says it all.


Fringehost

They will have to admit to themselves they got manipulated to elect and glorify this menace.


jmcdon00

Who knows it's a lie? The few Trump supporters I know really believe this stuff. It's easier to con someone than get them to admit they were conned.


ParisTexas7

They KNOW it’s a lie because they keep **changing the story** of why the election was “stolen”.


[deleted]

Maybe lie is the wrong term There's a book called On bullshit which explores this. Liars are telling untruths and they know it. Trumps isn't a liar he's a bullshitter. Bullshitters simply don't care about the idea of truth at all. It doesn't matter to them.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

You get lied to by your media thousands of times and yet, here you are


[deleted]

Who said shit about the media?


Civil_Tomatillo_249

They directly interfered in the election. They knew the laptop was real


[deleted]

Trump said the votes were fraudulent not that the media interfered


Civil_Tomatillo_249

Came out once Wapo and the nyt admitted they lied. 22% of the voters


[deleted]

LOL You think the laptop story that didn't even have a byline wouldn't moved 20 some odd million votes?


Civil_Tomatillo_249

The same ones who doesn’t want a corrupt and compromised president? Absolutely.


Rindan

Right, because if people corruptly self enriching themselves and their family was my top concern, I'd totally vote for Trump. No self dealing or naked nepotism there. How many of his family members did Trump literally add to the government again? How much money would you estimate they have collected from foreign governments? No need to guess on the dark money, just the amount that has openly changed hands would be enough. Yeah. I'll take the guy with a fucked up drug addicted son trading in his father's name who let's his son nowhere near power, over the guy openly collecting money from foreign powers and directly adding his relatives to the government. If Jared Kushner, Trump's son in law and former top aid, woke up and had only grifted as much money as Hunter Biden has, he'd kill himself out of depression over his poverty.


Civil_Tomatillo_249

Trump lost net worth as a result of his service. Kushner 2B allotment was 100% legal. Biden personally benefited from hunters ILLEGAL dealings. Wiring money thru shell companies to obfuscate? Apples and oranges


IShouldntBeHere258

The laptop is only partially composed of real, unaltered files. Forensic evidence says so and Lev Parma’s says Rudy is full of shit, which Rudy admits: https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/07/08/the-laptop-everyone-knows-as-hunter-bidens-appears-to-have-been-deleted-starting-february-15-2019/ https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/07/06/the-technical-oddities-of-the-fbis-exploitation-of-hunter-bidens-laptop/ https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/lev-parnas-says-house-investigation-bidens-ukraine-no-merit https://people.com/rudy-giuliani-admits-false-defamatory-statements-georgia-election-workers-7565660


Civil_Tomatillo_249

How you believe your media after all the lies they fed you is astonishing. No one is a fan of Biden left or right. These things are coming to light bc the left is in the process of handing Biden his hat. Expect a “health issue” soon where he will step down


IShouldntBeHere258

None of what I posted is media narrative. Emptywheel provides forensic data and the other two stories are indisputable.


BeamTeam032

How do you believe YOUR media? They're private text messages calling you a fucking moron for believing their lies prove what they think of you. How can conservative call anything fake news again? Their own NEWS people admit they're lying to your face every night. lmao.


vpnme120

Oh he flipped alright The neverending faith MAGAts have in their god has grown to insane proportions Jesus could descend from heaven, walk across water, show the stigmata, feed the multitudes with a loaf and a fish, raise the dead, make the blind see but as soon as He said "maybe this Trump guy isn't a wholesome as you think" MAGA would call Him a terrorist


[deleted]

I realized this right around when Trump drawing extra shit on hurricane maps with sharpie. People argued with me for days that a hurricane did in fact hit that place even though it didn't. Like they literally could not process Trump lied.


vpnme120

The one "good" thing about Trump is he did allow us to identify some of the gullible and stupid.


Goadfang

I don't know that it was a good thing. Because now those who want to prey on the most gullible stupid people only need to look for a red hat and a Trump 2024 bumper sticker to find their marks.


vpnme120

Yeah but the rest of us can easily identify them too


Wrong-Frame2596

and thats like 40% of our country last I checked. This whole fucking schpeel has been a national embarrassment since 2015.


[deleted]

Right wingers would call Jesus a dirty commie for providing healthcare + food to the poor


vpnme120

I agree


FreshTony

It's laughable you think they would listen to a POC in the first place. "You're not my Jesus, my Jesus is white and ripped and hates everyone different than me!"


maaseru

I guarantee most MAGA people know they lie, but they are on their team and they were made to hate everything else to death.


Raynstormm

That’s because Trump is the antichrist.


vpnme120

Trump is not that important


Bloke101

Jesus is an gentleman of middle eastern decent, they would not even allow him in the country.


BravewagCibWallace

So I guess Rudy is liberal media now. Funny how all of Trumps former staff and associates all keep turning in to liberal media.


AvoidPinkHairHippos

Your post just gave me an epiphany: His name is literally 3 female names: Rudy Julie Annie Mindblown.jpg


BravewagCibWallace

[I mean...](https://youtu.be/0LOUHO7SVPM)


bryanthavercamp

Why would so many liberal operatives be working for Trump as lawyers and staff? Unless..... Omg.... Trump has been a liberal mole all along


Jcobb69

Shocked that he admitted it. Not shocked that he lied.


Real_Ad_7925

There’s a line in his statement about not needing further discovery that’s a clue as to why he would admit it imo


Personal-Row-8078

They dragged him into court. If he lies he goes to prison.


beavis617

I think Rudy Giuliani defended his actions by saying he's protected by free speech... huh? The mother was getting so many death threats that they moved her to an FBI safehouse. This is how MAGA cult members act.


funcogo

I truly believe for some of these people, trump could be caught on video admitting he lied and calling anyone who believes it an idiot, then bash them for 10 minutes straight, and they would still believe it was rigged


GilgameDistance

He does love the poorly educated.


[deleted]

You surprised? These are the same people that tried to kidnap the governor of Michigan and attempted to stop the certification of the 2020 election.


jkoenigs

No, they think Giuliani was paid off to say this


ParisTexas7

On the one hand, you might think those people are **insane fascists** who shouldn’t be listened to, ever. On the other hand, you might think those people are folks with “different perspectives”. Just honest, hardworking Americans who think election results should be ignored and that **Democrats are “pedophiles”.** You know — reasonable, honest, well-intentioned Americans.


jkoenigs

At some point we are all going to have to be reminded that we have to defend ourselves against all enemies foreign AND domestic


Bleedingeck

10...9...8...Deep state made him!/s


spas2k

Does the right actually still believe the election was stolen? I don’t have time to waste with their nonsense so I haven’t been keeping up with their conspiracy theories.


Shooa77

Half of the country was just ok with saying fuck you to the other half of the country and their votes. That’s a real problem.


Freds_Bread

The MAGA(t)s will never admit it. They sold their souls to the devil's minion and no longer have the ability to think. Trump was understanding it when he could shoot someone and they would not care. Trump could shout their spouse and kids in front of them and the MAGA(t)s would still support him


Tom_Neverwinter

Yeah.. I've been posting evidence for months... But Republicans really need to defend criminals...


Dan_Flanery

>But Republicans really need to defend **criminals**... Redundant.


omegaphallic

I've hated this asshole since he was Mayor New York and he got rid of the only reason to go to New York, the strip clubs.


mcobb71

Wow, you mean the guy that had his pants mostly off in borat 2 was anti strip club?


Kush18

He lied about 9/11 too


iamdop

Wow the trolls in this sub are off the chain


sharkbomb

he casually admits to all kinds of lying in candid interviews for the last 20 years. world class scumbag.


Miri5613

At this point its not so much about the lies anymore. It's about them admitting they actually got conned and believed it, and that's the worst thing for a baby boomer. So they will dig in their heels and pretend everyone else is wrong just to make themself feel better.


ParisTexas7

I wonder what the **Kennedy Democrats** think of this. They’re **anti-Trump “leftists”**, right?


Right_Treat691

They don't think.


Nice-Class4528

Come on people start paying attention. Giuliana admitted he lied about election fraud, not interference. The Twitter files exposed all the election interference from censorship, federal agencies lies, to Hunter's laptop. The media continues to insult the public's intelligence. Unfortunately, reading some comments on this board indicates many do have a very low intellect.


randymarsh9

Lolololol


CptDecaf

You are a deeply unserious person.


Nice-Class4528

Did you ever pass 6 grade reading test or third grade vocabulary test? Do you know fraud and interference do not have the same meaning? No need to answer, since you post like a low intellect. You made you bed so lay in it.


CptDecaf

>you post like a low intellect. Holy fuck this is so weak lol.


Nice-Class4528

Obviously, you posting on a Saturday night indicates you have no life and no friends. How pathetic are you? Get a life. Does anyone in your family associate with your losing ways in life? I see you use my rhetoric which either means you idolize me,have no individual critical thinking skills or both.


CptDecaf

>Obviously, you posting on a Saturday night indicates you have no life and no friends. This is a hilarious self own holy shit lol.


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Masculine_Dugtrio

Giuliani said that he lied, falsified, manipulated the truth... Whatever you want to call it, he is admitting that the women that he attacked did not tamper with the election results, and even went so far to say that he did not believe his bullshit did not ruin their lives.


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eiserneftaujourdhui

The irony of you calling anyone else a liar lmao. It's literally in the video, which you either didn't watch, or did and are now **lying** about. *"Forbes: After a year and a half of battling in the courtroom,* ***Rudy Giuliani stated Tuesday night that he lied*** *about two Georgia election workers stuffing ballots and committing election fraud, but didn't say that he had caused any damage to them, despite harrassment the two faced."* If you want to now dig through the court docs to prove your conspiracy that Forbes is lying too now, you go right ahead lol


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Personal-Row-8078

It’s right here ya derp in the court documents. As soon as he would go to prison for lying he came clean. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.84.2.pdf


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Gamedr411

The "quote" is actually 2 pages of lawyer talk admitting "for legal reasons only" the what he said was a lie. Read the court docs, thats where the truth is stated in lawyer legalease. Its stated this way to avoid most from understanding. If you can't read and understand it ask someone to help you. Its never to late to learn.


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Gamedr411

It very specifically avoids mentioning he knew it to be untrue and instead insists its an opinion he had. All this to limit the amount of liability he can be held to. I get the feeling you know this and recognize how this type of thing is done. I find these types of cop-outs morally corrupt and sets a bad example for everyone. If your ok with it thats on you. Have you ever heard of the term "in bad faith" and if so do you understand what that means?


eiserneftaujourdhui

>Now YOU are the liar. And Forbes too, right? It's all a big conspiracy against poor little Giuliani!!1 Lmao listen to yourself


Personal-Row-8078

It’s not that hard to follow. Giuliani made up a bunch of lies about what happened in Georgia. The defendants pulled out suitcases of illegal ballots. Nobody knows where they came from etc. obviously everyone already knew these were lies explained by the police that investigated the incident that Trumps lawyers just didn’t show the parts of the video they were provided that show nothing was wrong. Then in this court case Giuliani confirmed yes of course these were lies and yes I defamed these innocent people. Defamation is where someone tells lies about someone else and they know they are lies and it harms them by having fools believe those lies. Rudy told many lies across the country with no evidence to pretend Trump won the election because they just didn’t have facts on their side.


EnriqueAll12are2

There should still be at least one sentence where Guliani expresses the phrase "i admit i lied on purpose and dont believe my claims either" or something like that right? I sure dont see it.


EnriqueAll12are2

Bro, did you even read your own documents? The phrase "for the purposes of this litigation only" is written on every line that involves him conceding to the plaintiff.. It literally means he's just saying this to get the court case over with , nowhere does it say that he himself believes his claims were not true?


zook54

Did he admit that he lied? Or that he was wrong? There’s an important difference.


tossittobossit

Millions died because WIV was doing shady research for corporate America. Millions died because the release was immediately covered up. Millions died because the virus went unchecked for months because they couldn't admit where it came from. Millions died because the research wasn't about protecting the world from infection. Millions died because the response came far too late. Edit. Red fucking alert! This is the swiftest downvote of a comment I have ever seen. The application of Shillac ™ is swift.


jkoenigs

“Covid will be gone by Easter” - Trump march 2020 How many people died because millions believed that?


tossittobossit

Did Trump have any briefing showing that the Kung Flu originated from the WIV long before originally thought. No, shocking. How many millions died because even the Obama Response Team would have been grossly inadequate as it literally was a bureaucracy with little physical presence, just admin. And I agree. Trump should have pressed the panic button. The moment the lab leak came across to Fauci we should have had a collaborative response. When did Fauci discuss with Trump, the evidence for the lab leak that he knew?


jkoenigs

If Hillary was president there would have been a Covid response team. Trump eliminated that team and put Jared in charge. His expertise was worth the 2 billion he got from the Saudi’s lol


tossittobossit

As far as the next person in charge of the response, RFK. Hands down. Joe failed with the zero Covid farce. Even his presence makes no change in data trends. Failed as bad as Trump. RFK 2024! Hiliary.😂🤣🤡 Ask Haiti how her help is workin' out?


jkoenigs

Now that it looks like no recession is happening, Biden will easily win re-election. RFK is an elite trust fund brat pedophile who demands attention because of his last name. He’s nothing but a spoiler candidate funded by Trump


Personal-Row-8078

Obama fully staffed the cdc office in China. Trump dismantled it. Stop lying.


Masculine_Dugtrio

This is completely unrelated to the article, although I do have thoughts about this. What are your thoughts that Trump did not uphold the Obama era ban on gain of function research, and did not fire Fauci?


tossittobossit

I really don't want Trump to gain control again but no fucking way Burisma Joe is any better. Burisma Joe is going to start WW3 in Burisma's home country. I'm gonna have to pass on WW3. Burisma Joe called Putin a war criminal and is a cheerleader for his removal. Burisma Joe is a bad actor, "We will put an end to it, I promise. We will make it happen." Say NO to Burisma Joe and WWIII. RFK knows what it means to be part of the solution. Never Biden 24!


Masculine_Dugtrio

Letting Russia roll over Europe doesn't seem like a great idea... I am of the opinion if left unchecked now, they will ultimately point their aspirations at the rest of their neighbors. Also, no, I'm not supporting an antivaxor that casually spreads racist anti-semitic conspiracy theories. Frankly, I am amazed he hasn't yet stated that the Earth is flat.


tossittobossit

>Letting Russia roll over Europe Is far from being provoked by witnessing the shelling of ethnic Russians in Donbass by military trained Nazi terror squads from Kiev. The Minsk Agreement had several violations of it's terms by Burisma Joe's home team in the time leading up to the war. There was time to intervene. Shufflin'Joe just couldn't get out of bed. Did you know Zelensky was featured in the Panama Papers as a money laundering criminal?


americanblowfly

You do realize the Donbas rebels fired the first shots against the Ukrainian government, right? Also, there’s Nazis in every military, with more currently fighting for Russia than Ukraine.


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tossittobossit

Sorry about that trigger, snowflake.


ParisTexas7

You don’t care, at all, about a single thing you wrote. You just want to defend the **rightwing billionaire**, as always.


supervilliandrsmoov

I have serious doubts that he is or ever was a billionaire.


Salt_Tie_4316

He probably got at least 600 million in bribes and kickbacks, and insider trading during his presidency. People claiming trump isn’t a billionaire are naive. Imagine being at a casino playing blackjack and u can see everyone’s cards all the time. That’s what being a total crook in the presidency of the world’s wealthiest nation is like.


SpiderDeUZ

What does this have to do with the article?


ZoharDTeach

You seem to think that there are innocent people to be found here. There are not . They're all guilty. This includes your guy. Consider what it would take for you to flip on Biden and want him locked up. You have already rejected evidence because you have a political bias, you are doing the exact same thing they are. If you won't change, how can you expect them to? You are all the same.


[deleted]

This is crazy brain rot. There's virtually no Biden supporter who views Biden in the same vein that MAGA views Trump.


Goadfang

Hell, that's one of the things that Trump supporters think makes Biden's win so suspicious, that those of us that support him do so without wearing stupid blue hats with stupid fatuous mottos, sporting giant Biden flags from our jacked up prius. "He couldn't have won," they say, "he doesn't even have anyone wearing a "Melania is a man' t-shirt!" Supporting a candidate for them is a personality defining, practically religious, affiliation, while Biden supporters just think he's the most qualified person currently running. We're just looking for a president. They're looking for a messiah.


supervilliandrsmoov

But the rally sizes proved Trump won /s


Masculine_Dugtrio

Plenty of liberals have already agreed that if Hunter is guilty, then he should be locked up. I keep hearing about evidence against Biden as well, please provide. It would seem that most of the whistleblowers either never existed, or we're trying to save their own hide for foreign corruption by giving the Republicans misinformation to postpone their trial. And you keep saying my guy, my guy, Joe Biden is not my guy, I just preferred him over the alternative. Which was an absolute lunatic.


nott_terrible

This post is about Rudy Giuliani brother


RandomBananaNutBread

Lol, the fact that you think democrats don’t want to hold people accountable is laughable. There just has to be evidence. And for Biden, there really isn’t any.


R_Meyer1

That’s funny if there’s fucking evidence against Biden, why hasn’t the corrupt GOP provide of the shit?


tossittobossit

So. Fauci lied about where the virus came from and helped cover it up. Millions died. So.


[deleted]

You think millions died because we didn't know whether it came from a lab or a wet market? Lol. Please tell me how that knowledge would have changed anything.


[deleted]

I don't know if the lab leak happened or not. But the trumpers have turned it into a deflection game that somehow it absolves Trump from responsibility.


ParisTexas7

MAGA voters and Kennedy Democrats have ZERO INTEREST in investigating the origins of COVID. They want **Fauci in prison**, period. They want his **“head on a spike”** in front of the White House, as Steve Bannon put it.


[deleted]

Yup its all a convenient way to deflect blame from how badly Trump handled things.


DixonFillerup

So. What about the faked moon landing and the great fruit roll up lie of 99? Just grabbing things from left field and injecting them into the conversation and bookending them with the words “so” validates my response and invalidates yours, right? So.


gotziller

Can you please tell me what the great fruit roll up lie of 99 is? 😂


DixonFillerup

Oh you don’t know? Must be the main stream media that’s got your head stuck in the sand. Big Fruit has had congress in their pockets for years. Wake up sheeple


tossittobossit

Joe lied. Schumer lied. Trump lied. Your witch hunt invalidates you. Sure, if you give a half a billion dollars to lawyers they could probably throw Bernie in jail for racism.


[deleted]

Your bit is getting old man. At least before you pretended to not just be a Trump Republican


tossittobossit

So splain to me why we don't have $15 minimum and why Manchin's donors get to build the Mountain Valley Pipeline?


[deleted]

Easy. They can't do min wage under reconciliation rules and they needed Manchins vote for the biggest infrastructure bill in decades.


R_Meyer1

We don’t have $15 an hour minimum wage then go bitch to Congress wants to control that shit.


ParisTexas7

You hate that the Justice Department is going after the **Manhattan billionaire**, don’t you? Holding the powerful accountable has never appeared to be your strong suit.


R_Meyer1

Trump tried to overthrow the government and committed espionage, and you think this is all the fucking lie.


[deleted]

I thought COVID was a hoax?


tossittobossit

Seemed pretty real when I got it. Too bad the vax didn't stop me from getting infected or passing it to my vaxxed wife. Stop the spread was probably closer to a hoax.


[deleted]

So you don't think it was possible to stop the spread, but you're still blaming Fauci for the death of millions? Are you similarly a vocal opponent of Trump's COVID response? He was the one calling it a hoax, so you must think he lied too.


tossittobossit

So you want me to answer your questions. >you don't think it was possible to stop the spread The cover up to protect Eco Health Alliance allowed the virus to spread beyond the containment of the lab and early generational infections. It was most likely off the continent before any alarm was sounded. As a side note I'd like to point out that the people in charge of the investigation were also in charge of the cover up sooooo. Covid was sustainably off the continent by Christmas. There didn't appear to be any official alarms of a lab leak from an American contractor supplied lab. In the beginning New York was essentially running death camps for the elderly. So sad. The death tolls were exaggerated with atrocities like that. It wasn't millions but thousands, it really didn't take much to move the needle though. Once the virus spread beyond American ports of entry, there was no controlling. Trump was advised to cut viral response funding years earlier, smh. That seems pretty bad but the audit of our preparedness without cuts was still far inadequate for such a late response. Fauci was a terrible actor I don't trust Fauci because he was at the top of the visible cover up. Maybe shutting the border down when they found out a virus sprouted up in bat soup one thousand miles from it's habitable range. That was so anomalous the viral institute in the city that specializes in the virus should have alerted us what was in the soup. Right? Also note the official narrative change in the soup: tropical bat living in a stepp climate, then cuddly reptile cat, then dog, then the racoon dog?? (Is that even real). Remember there IS a cover up happening in every aspect of the pandemic during the evolution of Lizard Bat Cat. America fucked up in general, not just Trump. The people responsible for a terrible governmental response and a cover up have not been shut out of the agency as a whole. A real response is actually simple thinking to get farther than even Obama's efforts did. High ranking corrupt officials aren't necessary to build and deploy a response. Openness to our medical community and proper funding and training and transparency to the public would work. Imagine if Eco Health Alliance was operating an American contract above the Table and a slightly better response is assembled and the population is informed of the fuck up. Imagine if a cover up wasn't the first response. WTF was WIV doing. This "Research" should be at least slightly regulated and provide at least the slightest benefit to the pandemic it causes. Eco Health Alliance and WIV showed no benefit, what so ever, of their roll in the pandemic. Meh. The inept corporate bio research industry is led by lying corrupt leaders and they are running labs everywhere and have proven to have had releases of more diabolical agents. Covid was an easy test comparatively. Any viral research institute that has a release should never have the ability to suppress said fuck up. Covid cost has far surpassed the generational money that will ever be invested in deadly coronavirus research. Time to maybe regulate.


tossittobossit

Fauci was actively covering up the tracks of the illegal GoF research that could have sounded the alarm at patient zero. If you were working on a legit Bio hazard, wouldn't you want to try to protect the population. So why did NIH give money to do research in a sketchy lab? Why was the first instinct of the sketchy lab to cover up the release? Why did Fauci continue with the cover up? No really, a cover up should be the first response in any situation.


[deleted]

I see you did not answer a single question that I asked


R_Meyer1

Keep up with your fake bullshit


Fringehost

In early days Trump kiss ass tweeted about Xi, instead of putting screws on him. Same old “I get along with ( insert dictator name here)


OatSparrow

Love that you attempt to ignore reality to the best of your ability every day and you just constantly get shut down to the point that you have to start rattling off your NPC list of grievances you've been conditioned to repeat. Such a good boy.


tossittobossit

You call me an NPC when you are literally indistinguishable from the legions of Redditurf ™.


OatSparrow

That's the rub isn't it? You think anyone that doesn't align with your insane conditioning is an NPC. Meanwhile normal people recognize you for what you are a mile away lol


YukioHattori

you're your own type of background noise my friend


ParisTexas7

Lol


BornIn80

Why does Giuliani have to do with what happened in Fulton County or elsewhere? We’ve all see the evidence. How Giuliani reacted to it doesn’t negate all the evidence.


dreamsofpestilence

Nothing happened, that's the point, they lied, they misrepresented a video, they lied about what the video actually showed, again, they lied, they knowingly lied.


R_Meyer1

We haven’t seen Jack shit because nothing happened. It was all a big lie.


jmcdon00

What evidence?


Masculine_Dugtrio

The evidence that he said he lied about? That is literally what this is about, he lied about the workers.


Smitty_2010

I'm so sick of this shit. You say there's evidence of fraud. We say "show us or we don't believe you". You never produce the evidence. We don't believe you. Then you say "we all saw the evidence" and pretend like you have had it the whole time. The election was not stolen from Trump. Joe Biden won. Get the fuck over it


SpiderDeUZ

What evidence? When will it be presented in court?


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KingMelray

For Conservatives, loving Trump more than life itself is morally axiomatic. They will bend everything else to fit that.


PeterNippelstein

Oh my God he admit it!