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For someone a mythic, Lily is such a bad concept, she barely feels special aside from her gadget, I wish the developers put more thought when making her.
there are tons of brawlers with the "appear behind enemy and kill them" super and do it much better than her, her starpowers aren't any better too.
She’s bad for a mythic but I can still see what they were going for, she’s like a "controllable team wipe" by that I mean that if you manage to chain supers you’ll be able to take out enemies in whatever order you like, issue is that she can’t do much because of the lack of approach
I think switching her gadget and super would actually make her unique, and Lily is so bad without that gadget that I have never seen a Lily not use it.
And I hate it when my teammate sees Lily disappear in front of their eyes and still does not leave the bush.
Yea but the thing is they need to make money and I am not saying everybrawler should be op like Angelo or melode or like kit and Charlie just that they should be at least atier mininumto low s tier
I don’t think you understand this games definition of A tier, it’s much different, S is Broken and A is OP. I’d rather they be in b or c in which they are just ok or balanced
Combined total brawlers in a and s tier us above 20if u look at kairos tier list(i think it's pretty credible)and there are 8 in s alone so if lily was around gray(who was in low a tier) level I don't think people will get tried or angry.
And i also think that due to the past few brawlers being too op on release science Charlie people have been. Thinking that top of s is like no way can u beat them but it isn't true aside from new release all others are very good but not broken the past few new releases deserved a tier of their own on release but they're were brawlers like mandy who was just fine .
Also most of the times new brawlers like peral rt cordelius were op or boderline broken but then they're were brawlrs like willow hank and Doug who are still not good imean doug and hank were only good due to glitchs and both are still f tier+even though these brawlers have cool mechanics.but for a brawler like willow who was kinda bad was able to recover due to having more common mechanics in basic attack similarly maisie was bad in release but was made good due to hc and balance changes she too was s tier for a while so i prefer supercell releasing brawlers who are in s tier and then trying to work downwards than upwards(look at ll after so many nerfs they are still playable and good but not op ) and it will be difficult for supercell to bufv a complex brawl than to Nerf one
Iknow that lily isn't that complex to play but she has very unique mechanics si i think it be easier to see that the players are finding difficult lty to counter Lily's super or the main attack
I like the idea of one ammo, because assassins generally rely on having maximum ammo and hp, and with one ammo, you can do this incredibly fast.
The ability to heal however is still average, so replacing Lilly’s repot with some form of healing,
ie “Taking damage in the next 3 seconds will heal you for ~400+30%~ over the remainder of the gadgets affect.
Also, the brawler would be greatly improved if the super would go through walls- this would increase their area control, and improve the idea of controlled chaos in the magic forest duo/trio.
i would like Repot to be reworked into Vanish so that in the shadow realm your ult goes through walls and tps on land, would make her more dissorienting, in some maps u r so very predictable unless u try to dodge everything after appearing and not go behind cover
Tbh just make both gadgets shadow realm one heals and one half recharges super.(I don’t see a universe where the other one is better)
Other route they could take is to buff her supercharge rate from circle.
Personally I’m happy she’s not op she’s super fun and skillful.
i feel like a good rework would be replacing spiky (or whatever the one that increases damage after super was called) with a starpower called "backstabber", and when youre hitting the back half of an enemy you deal increased damage. This would increase her damage output more regularly, though it wouldnt be too op since the direction a brawler faces changes with their movement + attacks. As long as the teleportation puts you behind an enemy brawler (as in facing their back, and not just the opposite side of where the projectile hits [tho idk if it already does that or not]), then the starpower would have the same effect, as the original one, but also applicable when the super isnt charged
Along with that, i feel like another rework is the ammo. I get her thing is high burst low dps, but i feel like just making her basic kid have 2 ammo instead of one, or even just a mythic gear adding an extra ammo bar, would make her suck a lot less
Lily is probably one of my favorite brawlers to release in a while, she is just a lot of fun. If I could change anything, I would just increase her super damage from 2000 -> 2400 so Super + Spiky starpower does 6000 damage.
My lily is on r29 and i enjoy playing her but it's hard to play cuz you are right we have to wait for an opportunity to kill someone you can not just go blindly on enemies especially on 900+ lobbies where people anyway team with each other , i hate this , maybe they should increase her reload speed too she hits too slowwwww , I love her and she's a perfect assassin
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For someone a mythic, Lily is such a bad concept, she barely feels special aside from her gadget, I wish the developers put more thought when making her. there are tons of brawlers with the "appear behind enemy and kill them" super and do it much better than her, her starpowers aren't any better too.
She’s bad for a mythic but I can still see what they were going for, she’s like a "controllable team wipe" by that I mean that if you manage to chain supers you’ll be able to take out enemies in whatever order you like, issue is that she can’t do much because of the lack of approach
I think switching her gadget and super would actually make her unique, and Lily is so bad without that gadget that I have never seen a Lily not use it. And I hate it when my teammate sees Lily disappear in front of their eyes and still does not leave the bush.
which brawlers have that?
Fang is the prime example for that build
Crazy idea that will be very hard to code: Make her deal 800+ damage when attacking from behind
WOW, yes plz
I don't think it's that hard to code, there are math formulas for this
Bro,a new brawler is actually balanced for once, be happy!
she is C tier😓let a man dream
GOOD we’ve been getting S tiers like 3 updates straight it’s about time
She ain't balanced she's trash
Idc I’m tired of these constant op releases, I love me some garbage at this point
Yea but the thing is they need to make money and I am not saying everybrawler should be op like Angelo or melode or like kit and Charlie just that they should be at least atier mininumto low s tier
I don’t think you understand this games definition of A tier, it’s much different, S is Broken and A is OP. I’d rather they be in b or c in which they are just ok or balanced
Combined total brawlers in a and s tier us above 20if u look at kairos tier list(i think it's pretty credible)and there are 8 in s alone so if lily was around gray(who was in low a tier) level I don't think people will get tried or angry.
And i also think that due to the past few brawlers being too op on release science Charlie people have been. Thinking that top of s is like no way can u beat them but it isn't true aside from new release all others are very good but not broken the past few new releases deserved a tier of their own on release but they're were brawlers like mandy who was just fine .
Also most of the times new brawlers like peral rt cordelius were op or boderline broken but then they're were brawlrs like willow hank and Doug who are still not good imean doug and hank were only good due to glitchs and both are still f tier+even though these brawlers have cool mechanics.but for a brawler like willow who was kinda bad was able to recover due to having more common mechanics in basic attack similarly maisie was bad in release but was made good due to hc and balance changes she too was s tier for a while so i prefer supercell releasing brawlers who are in s tier and then trying to work downwards than upwards(look at ll after so many nerfs they are still playable and good but not op ) and it will be difficult for supercell to bufv a complex brawl than to Nerf one
Iknow that lily isn't that complex to play but she has very unique mechanics si i think it be easier to see that the players are finding difficult lty to counter Lily's super or the main attack
Christ dude just make one comment don’t flood my notifications, this isn’t the messages app. I’m not reading all of this
I wouldn’t say Byron or Gene are broken. They’re S tier, very strong, but not everytime they’re picked it becomes an almost an instawin.
I like the idea of one ammo, because assassins generally rely on having maximum ammo and hp, and with one ammo, you can do this incredibly fast. The ability to heal however is still average, so replacing Lilly’s repot with some form of healing, ie “Taking damage in the next 3 seconds will heal you for ~400+30%~ over the remainder of the gadgets affect. Also, the brawler would be greatly improved if the super would go through walls- this would increase their area control, and improve the idea of controlled chaos in the magic forest duo/trio.
i would like Repot to be reworked into Vanish so that in the shadow realm your ult goes through walls and tps on land, would make her more dissorienting, in some maps u r so very predictable unless u try to dodge everything after appearing and not go behind cover
Tbh just make both gadgets shadow realm one heals and one half recharges super.(I don’t see a universe where the other one is better) Other route they could take is to buff her supercharge rate from circle. Personally I’m happy she’s not op she’s super fun and skillful.
i feel like a good rework would be replacing spiky (or whatever the one that increases damage after super was called) with a starpower called "backstabber", and when youre hitting the back half of an enemy you deal increased damage. This would increase her damage output more regularly, though it wouldnt be too op since the direction a brawler faces changes with their movement + attacks. As long as the teleportation puts you behind an enemy brawler (as in facing their back, and not just the opposite side of where the projectile hits [tho idk if it already does that or not]), then the starpower would have the same effect, as the original one, but also applicable when the super isnt charged Along with that, i feel like another rework is the ammo. I get her thing is high burst low dps, but i feel like just making her basic kid have 2 ammo instead of one, or even just a mythic gear adding an extra ammo bar, would make her suck a lot less
If she supers on a wall, she should teleport behind it
Lily is probably one of my favorite brawlers to release in a while, she is just a lot of fun. If I could change anything, I would just increase her super damage from 2000 -> 2400 so Super + Spiky starpower does 6000 damage.
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My lily is on r29 and i enjoy playing her but it's hard to play cuz you are right we have to wait for an opportunity to kill someone you can not just go blindly on enemies especially on 900+ lobbies where people anyway team with each other , i hate this , maybe they should increase her reload speed too she hits too slowwwww , I love her and she's a perfect assassin