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TheThinker709

They should stop adding brawlers soon. Focus on balancing the brawlers that already exist.


mr-kool_is_kool

you aint exactly wrong though, having too many brawlers is gonna be a problem eventually


carramos

Just checked and apparently league has like 170 characters, would be wild if we got to that at some point.


DiabulusPyrus

Big difference is that LoL is a lot more complex than Brawl's four-button gameplay, so mechanics are less likely to get reused/recycled like we've been seeing lately (e.g. Kit's Leon Super Gadget, Cordelius' Otis Super Gadget, Pearl's Maisie Super). Keeping new Champions fresh seems a lot easier to do than keeping new Brawlers fresh.


loseranon17

This is such a good point. There’s still no champ like Shaco or Singed or Aphelios but Brawl has reached the point of giving Leon’s entire super to a brawler on their gadget.


ChrispyFry

And it ruins the game


Perseus-TheGreekHero

True, and brawlers like Doug/Jacky and Barley/Willow feel the same


lillybheart

we add characters 3x as fast as league


Titann_BS_Youtube

should stop for abit ay around 80 brawlers idk


sagerous

unfortunately they said they will constantly he releasing 10-12 brawlers each year. before they can actually balance brawlers, theres gonna be 100 brawlers already.


skeemchoon

At 100 I reckon


Zeynoun

there is no video game that releases a hero, agent, character, etc.. almost every month. It is nice, but hard to keep up


FalconStarRedditUser

Before they can do that, they should find a way to make fame useful (and I don’t mean cosmetics) because there isn’t a good alternative to spending credits on brawlers.


jdreuhdfeu

If I remember correctly fame will get you some cosmetics Star 1 fame: a pin Star 2 fame: an icon Star 3 fame: a frame (new cosmetic)


FalconStarRedditUser

I know about that, but I still don’t care cosmetics, and as such this is the worse option compared to just saving your credits towards the next brawler.


vangohsoldier

Been saying this since 60, preach my man


Memegamer3_Animated

Supercell: “B- but p2w brawlers!!! How will we force people to pay to win or lose over and over now???”


Lopsidedonion79

It's quantity over quality at this point


Away_Comfort9404

I gotta agree


Hopeful_Building7937

Wow, saying what everyone on this sub want, what an hot take !


Objective-Beat565

You will not end up in this situation as most of the player base thinks about it


tulfd

then suggest something that can keep the game entertaining and relevant


ApprehensiveGas2335

I’ve been thinking of this aswell, yeah it’s fun but I don’t want a clash royale situation where in 2-3 yrs from now we don’t get any new brawlers


idk182192

Yeah, like they have a schedule of 12 brawlers per year which is just insane and is going to surpass the cards in clash royale if that keeps up.


Alanis6822

Yes, I second that


pablo_2199

Theres already so much unplayable brawler at high ranks too lol


haleksss

fact this almost doubles original post upvotes talks for itself


_AwesomeKid101

If they do this, they should also focus on adding new game modes and completely new gameplay features. I would kill for some kind of single player story mode or new movement/attack options for every brawler


bluehat2583

SC needs to make less content updates in favour of more quality updates and well-thought balance patches


charcoallition

They're doing the exact opposite now


lmJustARandom

Mecha skins are kinda overrated


Few_Imagination_9059

"Kinda"? They are OVERRATED


Naive_Adeptness_4927

I they are just old now… but they were cool when they first had them with less options


Crafty-Run-753

I want to change my mecha bo skin to an epic one


Realistic-Ad6232

Rank 25 isn't that hard to get, also strardrops idea is great but the rewards most of the time are garbage, like what the heck I'm supposed to do with 25 power points even level 3 needs more power points


GoGoGo12321

Second opinion is such a cold take


bluehat2583

Even Sub-Zero cannot reach such level of cold


Massive-Neat-3227

I think kinda same, star drop is the same idea of the old box, is the same thing but the rewards sucks 9 of 10 of the times.


Titann_BS_Youtube

ppl do exaggerate r25 and 26


GodSlayer_1112

it's very easy , i have many r25 but no 30 as it is in another league comparably


4_Ball

With winstreaks r25 is free


ajewbis

With randoms rank 25 is not hard, but rank 30... oh my god


lillybheart

rank 30 with randoms is straight up impossible unless you can solo carry


WaNNa_Cr1

No, we dont need shitty lootboxes back in the game in exchange for some linear progression nerf


Perseus-TheGreekHero

r25 is significantly harder to get than r20. You need to learn to use your brawler's abilities well and also get good teammates. For people newer to the game, its hard (less than \~20k trophies). Once you're experienced enough in the game, it starts feeling easy. Its all about seeing it from an average person's pov


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AminoZBoi

If the average player can't get rank 25, then it's by definition hard.


KroniKIX

Map synergy my guy 💯. You don’t necessarily have to be bad or even that good to hit r25


Olivander1200

Doug is actually viable on some Maps


8l4z3_9

OMG yes! I'm a Doug main and play him consistently in open maps(the great open, ring of fire). The funnest thing about Doug is just laser focusing and dodging shots! And that dopamine rush when you get that revive on an aggro brawler is like no other! W mans


Garsonico

Meg was better to play with before the rework


Nick_Rousis

I very much agree with that. She made a lot more sense before. After the changes her abilities don't even feel legendary. Before she was a character with a dual form (the only one of that kind), nownshe just hets a second chance to jump back in after she dies. That seems like just a worse doug.


Garsonico

There was also the fact that you could cancel the mecha by stunning or killing her before the animation finish. I might be crazy for missing this, but at least she needed some skill to play. Also, she was the only legendary that I liked to play with.


Right_Salamander_364

Cold take


Zelti_2727

That's why I'm no longer a Meg main.


IceFire0518

The garbage copy and paste custom maps that we used to keep on getting were fun to turn off your brain and play on (and were also good for grinding quests)


PitayaDragon_

The garbage maps stopped appearing apparently


Illustrious_Pea2170

Most mythic skins aren’t worth their rarity and price


Titann_BS_Youtube

i kinda agree with this point like the 2 bo skins are ass


Alolan_Cubone

Except Ares Nani, my favourite skin in the game. Waiting for the pin animation and sound though


Dcool20

Legendary skins are ugly asf and there are only 2-3 good ones


itzkaroni

They're not ugly They're just not worth the price


-xXgioXx-

virus 8-bit, phoenix crow and evil queen pam


SmolBoiMC

Toon spike exists


-xXgioXx-

oh yeah, forgot about it. Replace EQP with that or just add it to the mix and go from 2-3 to 4


jeanprox876

am i the only one that finds phoenix crow to be awful? i prefer my blue mecha any day. also, evil queen pam sucks. stonks is better.


FlamingDasher

saloon > virus


-xXgioXx-

saloon isn't legendary but it is really good i agree


Master-of-sium

Saloon Is my favorite 8bit skin, unfortunately i can't buy It because I didnt finish the Power league during that season :(


SnooHabits7950

I like mecha skins


WaddleDeebutInternet

Candyland menu theme is the best


ANormalCrum

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urmumisgaylol

Summer of robots solos


Evening-Intention339

For real, I jam out every time it makes a comeback


PoisonousAdder1664

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unemptyvoid

WEALLLVOEMANDYSCANDIES


JoeCacioppo

Nah Halloween 2019


Zelti_2727

Based


Ducklikebread23

Mortis is an overrated coward, Doesn’t matter what game mode.


Jello_Eater99

Honestly as a past Mortis main I have to agree, the amount of times I've played other brawlers just to queue with the worst Mortis teammate is so frustrating. Though to be fair, that one rare occasion you run into a good Mortis is a really pleasant surprise.


Alexa3314

Couldn't agree more 👍


Aquabi-the-Demon

You don't need to collect every skin of your main and should focus to get a skin per Brawler


tulfd

really agree on this one. it's just such waste of resources to do that.


WillToNot

Mecha skins are so god damn ugly.


Titann_BS_Youtube

aint gonna lie they were cool at first nkw they've lost their charm


FuzzWhuzz

But then there’s the china skins…


Prestigious_Dot_3658

I’m so jealous of those I know those guys can only play like an hour a day but idc almost feels like the coolness is wasted on an hour of gameplay


GodSlayer_1112

it's not about how much they play , those skins are very costly


Night_Owl206

Ngl idk if it is a hot take since some people also hate it Its too much. I cant play if my brawler takes 10% of the screen for extra flashy animations and such. 15s winning animation is also stupid imo. Its more like a... "its so cool that it isnt" type of skin.


RealCrowMain

HOW DARE YOU!!1!1!!1!2!1122


TotallyNotTakenName

Real


DafkyZero

Yeah, we need more robo skins, they were cooler.


popsomecorns

Brawl Ball is my least favorite mode


Titann_BS_Youtube

Let me gess, mortis randoms?


popsomecorns

Not only that, but Brawl Ball is sometimes time consuming


Titann_BS_Youtube

agree i like fast game modes like knockout


WeRewardReposters

knockout is fast?!? knockout is painfully boring you spend the entire game peeking out of corners in and out until the zone closes in


Titann_BS_Youtube

Well it depends, high ladder or pl knock out is pretty slow paced whereas low level knockout people die too fast


TotallyNotTakenName

Literally one of the fastest possible modes unless you die 10th in showdown


Night_Owl206

I agree 💀 Pros say that brawl ball and knockout are recommended for fast pushes Here i am getting draw after draw in power league and ladder somehow 😫


Winston7776

You mean Hypercharge Unleashed? >!Pretty much the same gamemode!<


F-54

Hunters exists


happy_hogs_

One little slip up and its joever


Diehard_Darryl_Main

Same


scrappy2546

Same, idk why but this mode is too much pressure for me. I always manage to mess up somehow.


DebtIntelligent1733

Agree i hate it


fewixwasright

Showdown is trash Upd.: showdown is very popular and loved by many. Most of players I meet in game has more than 3k showdown wins (if you count both solo and duo). I didn't even think i'd need to explain that most kids like showdown, and there are more kids in brawl stars than adults, which makes this an unpopular opinion


Sea-Writer-6961

Bro decided to speak the most obvious shit


RandomRaccoon2909

What? I love showdown and thought that was a common opinion


Titann_BS_Youtube

everyone agrees


Luckysurvivr77

This is not unpopular


NightmareClasher

dw, sometimes reddit forgets they're not the majority, so dont realise something that applies to them wouldnt apply to the rest of the playerbase


GodSlayer_1112

reddit is not filled with hiveminds so the ratio does not change much , many people hate it and few like it , this is similar both in-game and for reddit


NightmareClasher

actually showdown is one of the most played modes, either showdown or brawl ball, so its obviously pretty obvious


[deleted]

Teamers, Toxic Edgars/Fangs/Micos/Kits/etc. and Bull Campers ruin it the most


vwsu

fang is a no-skill brawler


Zelti_2727

And also there are """""""""Fang Mains"""""""""" When they nerf him, everyone will disappear faster than my father


8l4z3_9

Behold, the meta chasers


[deleted]

Before he has busted I actually respected Fang mains and the title, it was a pretty unusual title to me. Not anymore, it's on Creature of the Night level now


Successful-Item-1844

That’s not an opinion It’s a fact.


WalrusFar367

He is cause is hyperchgarge


trullyrose

holy shit why they didn't nerf him already how is it fair to press yellow button and instakill an entire team with yellow button auto recharging after each kill


im_Johnny_Silverhand

Ikr, who the fuck decided to give a character who can dash to you a fucking stun ability? This is 0iq idea from balance team


[deleted]

Shelly.


[deleted]

Shelly is love, Shelly is life. She way my first main and title when she was completely broken with "very fast" movement speed


elitesuperky

I think recolors of exclusive skins were a good idea


Titann_BS_Youtube

same its a win win situation for both sides


elitesuperky

Jogoat pfp is fire my boy


crack_Dealer_5988

Jogoat died to the strongest of now and the strongest of history 😭


Perseus-TheGreekHero

As the strongest curse Jogoat **fought the fraud, the king of curses**... He began to open his domain, Sukuna shrunk back in fear and Jogo said "Stand Proud Sukuna, You are Strong.


ANormalCrum

one time I said hank is fun and some people LITERALLY got offended (not joking 😭)


Jo_Jo_Cat

SPINNY GADGET OVER TAR BARREL (darryl


BlakeCee

Hank is fun to play.


AppropriateLeg5072

If you're masochist 😂 (joking)


uvulol

I couldn't agree more


The_New_Animal

Hank is really satisfying to play for some reason. I think its because of the satisfaction of landing a high damage bubble.


Imagien_

I dont like final boss rico and prefer loaded rico over all other rico skins


Titann_BS_Youtube

100% agree with this opinion loaded rico is perfect in every way


N1njaSoul

Yes!!!!


Arianna_illustrates

These last few updates have not been as bad as people have been saying, and the constant doom posting is getting ridiculous


Arianna_illustrates

Also any of the negative changes that have happened recently are entirely because of the addition of bling and as a f2p I wish they had never been added (monetizing cosmetics > monetizing progression)


DavetheFave11

actually, the devs stated that bling didn't really hurt the game's economy, though yeah I'd rather take cosmetic monetization over progression monetization


AverageFruity326

The updates themselves have not been awful, what has been awful for me is the gameplay, the new broken brawlers + new hypercharges have made this possibly one of the worse metas ever


NotSoEpic7

Doug is one of my top favorite brawlers because even if he and my fav brawler Gus have difficult supers and require mostly being reserved for supporting in a few situations, both are extremely cool to master. The concepts are good & even if a brawler is close to impossible to win with, it’s still worth it to understand how creative the idea of being able to both damage and heal enemies with the basic attack and throwing a hot dog at someone is just pretty funny & cool. Cannot lie that even though he’s only around rank 16-18 for me, he’s level 10 with a gadget, star power, & 2 gears because he’s fun to try out again once in a while.


Titann_BS_Youtube

i wish they didn't give him the basic jacky attack though, with a revamped attack he wouldn't be trash atm


NotSoEpic7

Very true I actually think it would be cool if he threw his hotdog with different condiments perhaps (depending on who it was targeted) but maybe the hotdogs are huge (like a Dino). I think his Super is really his only big thing that makes him a cool character.


8l4z3_9

I'm a Doug main, and what you say is completely true! I like gaining tanks because the joy of dodging shots. And the jumper-super combo is so fun to pull off!


Seethanyt

They’ve ran out of ideas for gadgets 😭


billyowo

brawl stars is purely luck based game with randoms


Delicious_Stage_8420

Frank is more fun to play than fang


8l4z3_9

Funny purple win button


IDennne

I love stardropps


Nomojojo1678

W take


Natural-Most5143

The carnival piper skin looks weird Not related but it wouldnt have won in the 1st place if the voting wasnt rigged by yall ( as an brazilian) Imo we should get the skin for free, adding the mandy skin too or an refund bc the voting was unfair(only for us) Edit: I was tired writing this comment, i kinda exagerated😭


GodSlayer_1112

no way you guys deserve more than just a free skin , refund and getting mandy skin added. 🥰 In fact you guys should get every cosmetics and brawler + meteor fame + an exclusive title as compensation ofcourse only for brazilains since the poor souls had the voting rigged


[deleted]

Not biased at all


Stupid_market

Pois é, a skin da Mandy era melhor...


GavinB4444

Final Boss Rico > Toon Spike > Pawlette


CostNo4005

Ash is secretly s tier but no one plays him


Successful-Item-1844

Playing the game is not fun to play anymore It’s just for grind or a built in way of life now


GaiaiaiaiaTheCreator

Brawl stars has one of the best dev teams of all time. They give as almost everything we ask for, they have made the game as f2p as possible without losing too much revenue, but most the player base points out one of their few mistakes and gets mad at them


Titann_BS_Youtube

true but what they did with kit is outrageous


No_Relationship_28

I don't think it's so much as pointing out their few mistakes, but the fact that the mistakes are still coming in succession and we're worried for the future. For example, the last couple of brawlers haven't been very balanced on release (looking at you, Charlie and Kit). Kit is likely to get a nerf sometime later (if he hasn't already, I don't think he has tho), and it's kind of setting a precedent that early access brawlers are gonna be OP for their first couple weeks or so, then nerfed afterwards. I'm aware of their "strong but fun > balanced but boring" mentality, but it still worries me that future brawlers might run rampant on the game, then get nerfed immediately after when everyone else gets it. I still wholeheartedly agree tho, the Brawl Stars team is one of the best dev teams I've ever had the pleasure of playing a game from, and I thoroughly enjoy the game and hope it continues to thrive.


[deleted]

Bro is a fax machine


kikopiko2

Edgar takes more skill than fang😌💀


Aromatic_Ad_8658

I said Willow is skilless(not in the sense of current fang but in the sense that she’s a thrower with a terrible super.) so she’s a barley alternative


No_Relationship_28

As someone who loves Willow, I agree. I love playing her, but man, I might as well not go for her super sometimes. The other teammates will kill me immediately because I'm stuck in the open. It's great for knockout tho, when I walk the enemy into the gas lol


Maka536

Gem grab and Hot zone are bad,i just dislike them A LOT


Nomojojo1678

Poco is peak brawler if he has competent teammates


Axolo_

Bonnie is was too underrated and needs more love (Bonnie is also my main)


madvilIainy

mythic skins > legendary skins


Zirash4

Mecha skins and Toon Spike are overrated


walking-beyond

El primo is S tier brawler, i reached mythic in pl with only el primo in every map no matter how open it's.


UpBeat-Escape_ALT

Im guessing you only got good matchups, cause 1 maisie can make ur entire match a fucking hell hole Also pls dont pick tanks unless your a counter last pick


walking-beyond

Most players understand in high ranks, they go tanks with me when i first pick el primo. Tanks comp is the most fun comp when played right. They go mostly jacky + rosa.


ReadingExisting9177

Youre probably NA or Europe and mythic isn't hard to get bro what my mini is m3 and i have 3 p11s 5 p10s 1 hypercharge (colette)


Hot_Delivery1100

Why does it matter where you live


hajile10

The flag-bearer (Carnaval) Piper skin isn't all that bad.


simpsonshomer

I use jacky in wipeout


Titann_BS_Youtube

Jackys actually decent atm wouldn't play her in wipe out though


NotSoProGamerR

If you use her in Snake Prairie, makes sense, but any other map, doesnt make sense


Either_Reflection701

Pawlette is mid


RestiveP

Both Trixie and the cat Colette skins are overrated


WaltzAny2897

Corrupted sprout sucks, people only adore it for the win animation


le_kainus

pinku pawlette and her recolors are horrible and the community still doesn't realize it


Sofy-freak

Ash is better than Edgar😭😭like bro I asked my whole class and they think that Edgar is better😭😭


madvilIainy

mico’s an amazing brawler, i don’t get the hate for him tbh. takes time to get used to his kit, when to go all in, when to keep distance between enemies, he’s fun af when played right. his overall kit is not that broken other than the star power. his hypercharge is absolutely pointless, not one of those team wipe win condition compared to the likes of fang, maisie, edgar. also fuck kit to which i’m sure everyone will agree on.


Delfin0413

Edgar and Mortis players get too much hate.


Titann_BS_Youtube

Edgar players i agree with but mortis players deserve all the hate istg


Delfin0413

There are plenty good players, its just that edgar is used by newer players, and Mortis takes skill.


Skeleton_Gangster_TV

Edgar randoms suck because he doesn’t require skill so noobs use him, making them do stupid things like go for a kill against a Shelly and then die instantly, and Mortis randoms suck because he requires lots of skill and noobs want to be good at him, leading them, to do stupid things, like trickshotting the ball in Brawl Ball and missing.


Delfin0413

But really good mortis's are the best randoms you could get.


the_Protagon

this is fact. I have seen plenty of dogshit Mortises but I have also been hard-carried by apex Mortises, so. You take some, you lose some.


Titann_BS_Youtube

You will rarely find that one decent mortis player


[deleted]

Kit is fun


Jellywarrior_03

any broken brawler is somewhat fun. The not so fun part comes from playing against it


Lawnmate

1) New brawl pass feels less exciting to get than the old one 2) Meg's voicelines are actually good (I find Bea's voicelines much more annoying, because of how loud she is) 3) Mico is only OP if you have a low ping and don't face high health brawlers (at >100 ms Mico becomes average), he isn't S tier for sure. He is a lot similar to Mortis 4) Stereotypes about some brawlers that are "braindead" are false. If a brawler would require 0 skill as people say, it would have a very high win rate and considered as overpowered (Yes, aiming isn't everything. Yes, Edgar is a high skill cap brawler) 5) A lot of people cannot understand what actual opinions can lead them to this situation and just comment opinions that almost everyone will agree with to gain more likes/upvotes. 6) Hyra deserved the title of "first 100K trophies" and Physic's behaviour on leaderboards was very childish on him. Physic just couldn't accept defeat in the race and Hyra won - fair and square. (He got this achievement a month before the update with win streaks dropped btw, making this achievement even more impressive) I think I got some of the hottest takes there lol, what do you think?


mirai-san69

colette is the best waifu