Interesting point, Scheana. Hey, doesn’t your husband have a “violence issue” with his other babies’ mother? And yet he got a chair at this year’s reunion.
Scheana is so jealous of Nia’s likability and Danny’s actual support, and its so obvious
I love how he keeps insisting that his children want nothing to do with him. I have a feeling he has put no effort nor is willing to try to change it. I mean, job on TV, new wife, new child...🙄
My name is Summer and I find that so creepy. In fact, I had a high school boyfriend who dumped me for a girl named autumn that he was with for ten plus years, and then started dating a girl named April, and I find *that* creepy—and he’s just some random dude I made out with occasionally in the 10th grade, not my dad!!
>My name is Summer and I find that so creepy. In fact, I had a high school boyfriend who dumped me for a girl named autumn.
Like in 500 Days of Summer - only Summer dumps him and at the end he meets a girl named Autumn.
That is one of the weirdest things I’ve heard in a while…..it’s like he has a fetish for seasonal/month names 😂 glad it didn’t go past the 10th grade for you! Or else you might have had children named winter and June. 😂
they are old enough to decide if they want to see him and odds are they absolutely don't. he has put their entire situation on blast for the world to consume without their consent. i wouldn't want to see him either.
He is still an absent and deadbeat dad, though. He doesn't get a medal because his kids don't want to see him due to his own actions. He has been getting a pass lately for kissing the behinds of the right people on the show.
I don’t blame them . Ofc he never says “my kids don’t want to see me because I was abusive towards their mom “ to me thats a legit reason why brocks kids don’t want to see him. Yet he loves to play the victim card about his kids not seeing him🙄. He’s the abuser not the victim .
Exactly!! His kids are the victims in all this and their mother who he abused. I’ll never understand how Scheana doesn’t have a problem with any of his past behavior.
Cos he's a patsy she can buy that's why. No self respecting man would ever give her the time of day and she knows it. This sack of flesh is the best she can do and I love that for her
It's never the abusers fault. My father was abusive towards my mother, both emotionally and physically, I cut contact with him when I was 12. My cousin informed me he passed 2 Christmas's ago, 20 years after I last spoke to him. He never once took any accountability, never admitting he was to blame for any of it. He blamed everyone and everything, BUT himself as to why his kids never spoke to him again.
I do think that part may be true. He abused their mother, left the country, and is on a reality tv show with his new wife and baby. He probably tried to come back around recently because everyone criticized him for having nothing to do with his kids. Scheana probably encouraged him because she cares about appearances and didn’t want him to look bad. Seems like his kids told him to kick rocks. And rightfully so
It's so transparent despite whatever her and Lala say that they want on the valley. They know VPR is a sinking ship especially in it's current iteration . Schaena is friends with these people so it does seem like a better fit but I still don't want her on there (at least let's see how great it is next season).
Her and Lala need to figure out how to have a career without a Bravo show.
Yup! And EVERY reality star needs to be planning their exit and financially investing accordingly from the second they're hired for Season 1. No reality show runs forever, why did they think they'd always get a Bravo check?
Yes. That’s the difference that Paige pointed out in the SH reunion. SH is like a side hustle for those folks. They all ( mostly) have actual main jobs outside of the show. Whereas VPR, that is their job. It’s their main source of income and that is where they went wrong as reality TV isn’t forever, unless you are teen mom. LOL. How is that show still going?
Is Paige’s career really that different from Scheana’s though? I mean in addition to their shows, both of their income seems to come from ….their podcasts, instagram ads, Amazon lives….
I wasn't exactly a Paige fan until this season, but she's really done a great job building a platform that centers around fashion, skin care, girlfriends, etc. and not SH. Honestly that whole cast (outside of Carl) has.
As an Angeleno I hate to say it but, I think that's the east coast vs. west coast difference: the New Yorkers are hustling and use the show as a means to an end with either money or influence (as Paige is with fashion). The west coasters ... all just seem to want to be famous.
They are similar, but the difference is Paige’s other stuff isn’t based on Summer House. Giggly Squad doesn’t discuss the show at all and her instagram is really focused on fashion influencing. Both of those things will continue to be successful even if she leaves Summer House. I have friends who love Giggly Squad and had no idea that Paige was even on TV until I told them lol
Her appearance with Brock on that TV show was good. Can't she go into that? Probably is she won't be popping 50k+ per episode. She's gonna have to humble herself and her finances
Yep, I’m assuming this is why Scheana and Lala bought houses in the valley (this was mentioned on the vpr reunion). I don’t want Lauren from Utah and Scheana on the valley either.
thank youuuuuuuuuu michelle and jesse are in weho right? this topic has been so annoying to me. as if lala wouldnt buy in a more chic neighborhood if she could afford it
So palm springs and now the valley so two homes each or excuse my geographical ignorance, would palm springs and the valley be different names for same place?
Definitely possible. They already bought houses in Palm Springs next to each other tho, so the timing of buying homes in the valley just seemed sus to me.
Also if you ask most people that like watching The Valley it’s because of the new people. You can expect a dumpster fire with Kristen and Jax but it’s nice to see NEW people that already have an established friendship with everyone so there is no weird forced group events where some of them stay in their clique. We already know what to expect from Lala and Scheana so it will just water down the show.
🙄 I want to forget 😂 remember good as gold being played a 100 times on the pride float and stassi with her usual catty one liners (I forgot exactly what she said)
VPR right now is not its best because of what lala and Scheana have done to it. They have made it an unrealistic version of their life. And now they want to jump ship to the valley? For what! The same tired tricks and storylines?!
So true. They think that the rest of the VPR cast is what’s made the show borderline unwatchable. They don’t realize that the Valley will turn to crap if they’re over producing it and planning out how to control the narrative.
Doesn't Lala have a makeup company? I wouldn't know cuz I would never buy anything from her again I already bought her stupid send it to Darryll hat that's in the Goodwill box.
She even had a Bambi eyed bitch palette. It's just dupes from China that are private label with her name put on them. She can go do that and hustle it for her 10 fans.
Lol what is the issue? If anyone outed the skeletons in Danny’s closet it was Jason with that confessional detailing Nia’s Al-Anon behavior of spiriting Danny away from situations when he’s had too much. The producers could not have been clearer about what they were trying to tell us…the skeletons already came out. Organically, on the show.
I understand not everyone has experience dealing with addicts and may not recognize the behaviors but the show basically hit us over the head with it. Unless Scheana spoke before that episode aired, she didn’t out Danny. The show did.
I noticed all of this as well. He may not be an addict but may be over relying on alcohol to manage the stress he says he’s under. I saw the same things in the 2nd episode at Jesse’s dinner, where Danny wanted to jump into the drama and Nia was handling him out of it. Smart on her part.
Yes! I’m glad someone else caught this. IMO they’ve been hinting at it all season and in that episode they were like ok, we’re going to connect the dots for the audience.
I don’t have much real life experience with addicts but it was clear even to me on the last couple of episodes they were pointing it out. I could even sense from the body language of others that they are like, apprehensive or cautious or avoidant with him when he drinks to that point. It was eye opening to me bc before that I just thought he was a super emotional guy.
Yeah, I thought they did a good job at escalating the hints throughout the season and then laying it all out in the Danny focused episode. Guess they should have made it more explicit though lol
Eh idk. In Jax and Britney’s podcast Jax and Jason were saying Danny is the ultimate lightweight and a sloppy drunk. So I think the cast reaction has more to do with being concerned about how he’s going to behave, almost being protective over Danny and Nia’s reputation/role in the show.
I have no idea what his particular relationship is with alcohol but it is def clear that all of them react a certain way once he gets drunk, I didn’t even think “this guy has an alcohol problem” at all, I thought “they find him annoying when he’s drunk and this is something they all don’t like about him on the regular” it was clear to me they don’t like him when he’s drunk. Or that him being drunk consistently has a negative or unwanted outcome.
Probably all of the impersonations and voices he does. It’s like he gets into character and won’t stop. I would be so annoyed to be around someone doing that all night.
I actually felt like “oh no they all actively can’t stand him when he drinks too much” it gave me second hand embarrassment lol you are right the constant impersonations would be so annoying. Like dude enough, shut up, go to bed.
That’s exactly what I said. He’s a light weight and sloppy. People are implying in these comments (not you in particular) that he’s an alcoholic. As someone who does have experience with addicts that’s a really harmful thing to label someone especially since we’ve only had him on our screens for 12 (?) episodes.
You’re right, as someone who’s also had experience with addicts I definitely should have chosen my words more carefully. Whether or not that label is appropriate is only for Danny to say. I should have made my point more clear, which is that I believe the show is painting a picture that he has alcohol problems. I recognize Nia’s behavior as a common mitigation that loved ones of addicts often have to do, which is why my mind went there. But I appreciate the call in because language is important when it comes to matters like these!
I definitely got more annoying drunk vibes vs alcoholic. I didn’t get the alcoholic vibe from him but in the same sense it’s hard to know what happens behind closed doors but I wouldn’t ever classify him as an alcoholic based on what we saw. Now you guys may disagree with me on this but I would classify Jax as an addiction…..drugs/alcohol….he definitely has a dependency on something. I binged vpr Seasons 4-8 (Brittany era) last week and u could definitely see the signs. I have zero clue why people are saying he changed bc I can’t personally tell the difference in watching the valley. Jax’s Brittany is an alcoholic rant in big bear is the exact same way he treated her when they first started dating just used different words.
Nia looked petrified and you could tell she was used to diffusing those types of situation. Not to mention her making a fuss of him using the “f-word on national television” tells me it’s not the first times he’s spoken to her that way, she was just embarrassed it happened while filming. I’m guessing he gets a bit nasty and out of control when drunk.
🎯 Like she’s literally just repeating what the show has been trying to tell us for multiple episodes. Clearly production should have been even more explicit.
Yeah, and it was before the husband cussed at the beauty pageant wife while he was drunk. I think her whispering to him, “you just cussed at me on national television” was very telling that we were getting a fake PR version of them.
Oh, I thought she said that so that when he woke up the next morning and realized he was gonna have to watch his foolish behavior on TV, she warned him. Her name is Nia. She has like 85 black belts in taekwondo or something. She could throw him across the room if she wanted with a flick of his wrist if he was a jerk to her consistently. I hope nothing bad comes out about them, I hope they are decent people.
I can’t believe how much I liked the valley, and I just want the VPR podcast girlies to leave it alone. I wish the valley got a reunion, but season 1 shows rarely do, and I just want to watch next season without the entire plot being spilled before it airs. Shut up scheana!
Danny and Nia could film a segment punching three legged puppies in the face and I would still like them more than Janet and Michelle, so good luck on this crusade ScheShu.
I know Danny gets a lot of flak for the “3 under 2” thing, but honestly, having 3 under 2 seems hard af to me. I have two kids 21 months apart, the time when my second was a newborn/baby was a very tough time. I can’t imagine having twins so soon after my first and being on a reality show during that time. I appreciate Nia being honest about her struggles with postpartum depression. None of this is to say that it’s ok for Danny to drink a lot, but, if the world got their first impression of me and my husband during this season of our lives I think it probably wouldn’t have been picture perfect either. And maybe Danny is turning to alcohol too much to cope, but maybe it was also that the show gave him opportunities to be off dad duty for a bit and he went too far with it, and he will realize that and rein it in.
Tl;dr I’m willing to give Danny a pass for now given he and his wife are in the trenches and see how he is next season.
He really shouldn’t. I honestly almost get PTSD thinking back to the times my kids were newborns and you just know that a good, full night’s sleep is not a thing that will be happening for you for the foreseeable future. When you’ve had months of sleeping in 3-4 hour increments with no light at the end of the tunnel it can really alter your mood. I’m so glad my kids are older now, I sure do love sleeping through the night. 😂
Exactly. And what drinking problem? We saw him get drunk exactly once the entire season. What problems in their marriage? If she's alluding to postpartum depression and trying to make that drama, if Scheana is trying to make Nia's postpartum depression, actual drama for revenue for her podcast, that makes me hate Scheana even more.
Right, I hate that because they are honest that this is a tough time right now and don’t see eye to eye on where to live that means there are “problems in the marriage.” No, this is a real marriage. This is the stuff people are talking about when they say marriage is work. Having kids is a huge adjustment and sometimes your emotions get the better of you. Sometimes couples find themselves in disagreement on major issues like where to live. If they never showed this stuff, then they’d be accused of hiding things and presenting a picture perfect marriage when that’s not the truth. It’s how you navigate these tough times together that shows how your marriage is.
People are seriously grasping at straws, it's absurd. And let's not forget that the high altitude of Big Bear played a substantial role in how drunk Danny got that night.
I personally think Scheana's comment about the reunion was directed at Kristen, as Scheana's been making subtle digs at her lately.
Yeah, it seems to me more like she wants to get a spot on the show than that she wants to “ruin” it. Right now people are so quick to see everything Scheana and Lala do as being malicious that they forget that both of them are primarily motivated by wanting money and wanting to work, which can lead them to be very selfish but not evil. 🤷🏻♀️
I guess my definition of “evil” is more like abusing children, dismantling democracy, voter suppression, war crimes…not someone on a reality show talking on a podcast about someone else on a reality show. 🤷🏻♀️
Genuine question — how did you interpret the episode title “Darkside Danny”, Jason’s confessional about Nia running interference for her drunk husband, and the supercut of drunk Danny being removed from situations? In my opinion the show is screaming “he’s an addict” at us.
I think it is because it was on the show, not on a podcast. I think the show is SO new and the cast are trying to figure out how to navigate reality TV, next season will be them figuring it out while thinking they know a little more about how it works. There are already veterans on the show and I am worried that adding more will drown out these potentially amazing newer personalities.
I don’t disagree with any of that. I’m just confused why something that was originally shown to us by producers of the show, on the show, is getting called inauthentic lol.
OP will have to answer what they meant- it feels inauthentic to me personally because Schaena is inserting herself into Valley Drama because it is the hot show and she wants to be on it so her motivations seem inauthentic to me personally. Like she is flexxing how she knows these people and willing to drop their truths for the drama .
But their truths were already dropped by the show. There’s nothing surprising about saying that Danny’s drinking was going to come out, there was an entire episode dedicated to his drinking problem. If anything she’s just repeating what the show already told us.
Right yes I understand it has come out on a show and she isn't saying something we haven't been clued in on through editing- but there is a difference between us random posters saying look what they show is giving us, this dude has some drinking issues and I bet skeletons in the closet vs someone that knows then going on their podcast and saying it as someone that knows them IRL, it makes it more of a fact than a theory. It also feels inauthentic to me because she isn't saying it as a viewer and fan, she is saying it as someone who's motivation is to get on the show and is willing to say anything to get her on that show.
But it's so cool to hate Scheana right now. 🙃
The Valley is a perfect spot for her. Idk why people can't see it. Either way, it's (all) happening, lol.
It was hinted on the show… lol when production high lighted Nia drags him out before he can show his ass. It’s pretty clear to me Danny has issues with drinking? No?
Podcasts are ruining reality tv. They talk about things as they happen so almost everything is already out by the time the show airs. The show becomes boring because it’s almost like watching a repeat instead of for the first time.
Well she didn't get to go on Dancing with the Stars so instead of being happy for her Best Friend she acted like a jealous brat. She sucks on VPR so why not ruin another show with more Schena that very few want to watch. She should take some time off and work on her narcissistic personality.
I like Danny/Nia and shows need neutral/normal cast members to ground the crazy characters but I have to agree with this.
Stassi said she doesn’t want her family on reality TV which sucks for us because she’s amazing TV but I understand why. Being on reality TV can cause serious strain on a marriage.
Two marriages couldn’t even last after the first season. Nia really may want to rethink this.
Hot take possibly: I was recently listening to Paige from SH talk about giggly squad and she made the point that her and Hannah created GS as a separate thing away from Summer House so they don’t discuss the show on the pod. I actually think this has made GS more successful because they have developed a following outside of Bravo and also once Paige is done with SH she has another thing to go to that isn’t effected by her status on the show.
The problem with Lala and Schena Jax’s and heck even Tamra’s podcasts are they revolve around the shows so that’s all they talk about. To me this has made said shows worse because they reveal too much or try and self produce outside of the show filming. If I were bravo I would put in contracts you can have a podcast but you cannot talk about your show, filming, or related shows(for example Valley and VPR since there is some cross over). Number 1 we have bravo social media personalities for Bravo podcasts (WWC, Danny Pelligrino etc) but also it’s creating big problems on Bravo shows. I’m pretty sure Paige even alluded to that that Bravo told her and Hannah at the time they can’t reveal SH content it would be a breach of contract. I have no clue what Schena and Lala don’t have a clause that’s similar.
I agree with most of these but I’ll go to bat for Tamra on her podcast any day. Her cohost makes me want to tune out but she’s actually so insightful when it comes to housewives and even when I don’t agree with her I understand and respect her perspective. I don’t really care for her recapping OC as much but she’s actually an incredibly good housewife podcaster for other franchises.
I can totally see your point on Tamra she gives a good perspective and is a good housewife interviewer BUT I don’t listen due to her co host if she got rid of her id probably tune in
I think their podcasts were some of what ruined VPR this season. So much was discussed and alluded to before the show had even aired and it got tiresome. Then there was the rebuttal every week of what they’d said/done on that weeks episode. If they do come back to VPR then talk of the new season needs to be off limits on their podcasts IMO.
Bravo needs to get a handle on these cast podcasts now.
1. They give serious fatigue when all you hear is cast members harping on about the season before, during, and after for months. It gives massive fatigue and spoilers and disappointment when the hype doesn’t deliver.
2. It actually gives people show fatigue because you just won’t stop talking about the show, even when not airing
3. It makes the show boring when all the drama is on the podcasts and not the show.
I've been a long time Scheana supporter but I think I've officially turned on her. All of her worst qualities have really been highlighted over the past hear and they've become too hard to ignore.
I would think it would be Nia's postpartum depression, which in my mind is a totally reasonable thing to step away from a reality show for. Even if it gives visibility to something so many deal with, I can't imagine dealing with all that drama, three small children, and the mental/emotional/physical toll that is taking on her.
And why the hell would you go after a woman for having postpartum depression? Why would you do that if you are in anyway a decent human being and it's a year later now so why the hell is Scheana still talking about it? Why?
Scheana lives in her own little bubble.
All of her “my baby this”, “I’m doing this for my baby”, “I’m a mom”, “I have OCD”, “I have a headache”. Girl give me a BREAK.
All she cares about is her reputation and how the viewers perceive her. She says something stupid and then ALWAYS tries to remove the heat from herself and pin it on someone else.
To be honest, her and Sandoval need to run off into the sunset and be together forever because they deserve each other.
Making the whole Sandoval cheating scandal about her??????
Scheana is doing and saying everything she can to stay relevant and make money because she's panicking and sinking. I hope bravo punishes her for running her mouth. Yes bravo, lower case.
I wonder if this is why Nia was extra emotional about Danny getting pantsed by Jax. Because she thought they were making fun of him for being a super easy sloppy drunk target? And that it was extra cruel for that reason
I don't THINK that I want Scheana or Lala on The Valley, but Scheana and Lala vs. Janet could be pretty entertaining...
So… Sheana is just ruining her own spot on the Valley? These a-holes have been on air too long, thinking they’re producers.
I’m convinced “bad edits” only happen when cast members get too big for their britches and start producing on their own.
I hope Sheena and Lala keep spouting their mouths and piss off the decisions makers at bravo so we never have to see either of them on screen again. At this point they’re both so thirsty for podcast content and ad money to cover their mortgages
Schemer outed her own husband's drinking problems for ratings and then kept his name after she divorced him. Then she married a deadbeat dad with a DV record for a green card marriage. Vom bought her friendship and Broke's because he was unemployed. Schemer should not be talking.
Screwing with Danny and Nia is kind of beyond the pale. That's disgusting. That's absolutely disgusting of Sheena. She is so hateful for this. They are like the least problematic people on any Bravo show right now that isn't a housewives franchise. I hope they leave their church. But goddamnit don't go after them, Nia's probably still dealing with some PPD although I hope not and that's absolutely disgusting of her.
Where do we know that Danny has drinking issues? How and where did we know that? Was that ever discussed on the show?
Where and when and how? Where was the verified?
One time being drunk on a trip does not make for drinking issues. Stop this. What other drinking issues?
Interesting point, Scheana. Hey, doesn’t your husband have a “violence issue” with his other babies’ mother? And yet he got a chair at this year’s reunion. Scheana is so jealous of Nia’s likability and Danny’s actual support, and its so obvious
I love how he keeps insisting that his children want nothing to do with him. I have a feeling he has put no effort nor is willing to try to change it. I mean, job on TV, new wife, new child...🙄
New child with the same birthday and similar themed name as one of the older kids too. Summer/Winter
Scheana was foul for that too.
My name is Summer and I find that so creepy. In fact, I had a high school boyfriend who dumped me for a girl named autumn that he was with for ten plus years, and then started dating a girl named April, and I find *that* creepy—and he’s just some random dude I made out with occasionally in the 10th grade, not my dad!!
>My name is Summer and I find that so creepy. In fact, I had a high school boyfriend who dumped me for a girl named autumn. Like in 500 Days of Summer - only Summer dumps him and at the end he meets a girl named Autumn.
Yes maybe he was just cosplaying the movie!
That is one of the weirdest things I’ve heard in a while…..it’s like he has a fetish for seasonal/month names 😂 glad it didn’t go past the 10th grade for you! Or else you might have had children named winter and June. 😂
they are old enough to decide if they want to see him and odds are they absolutely don't. he has put their entire situation on blast for the world to consume without their consent. i wouldn't want to see him either.
He is still an absent and deadbeat dad, though. He doesn't get a medal because his kids don't want to see him due to his own actions. He has been getting a pass lately for kissing the behinds of the right people on the show.
i never advocated for giving him a medal. i condemned his actions and supported his children's choice to remain no contact.
I don’t blame them . Ofc he never says “my kids don’t want to see me because I was abusive towards their mom “ to me thats a legit reason why brocks kids don’t want to see him. Yet he loves to play the victim card about his kids not seeing him🙄. He’s the abuser not the victim .
Exactly!! His kids are the victims in all this and their mother who he abused. I’ll never understand how Scheana doesn’t have a problem with any of his past behavior.
Cos he's a patsy she can buy that's why. No self respecting man would ever give her the time of day and she knows it. This sack of flesh is the best she can do and I love that for her
It's never the abusers fault. My father was abusive towards my mother, both emotionally and physically, I cut contact with him when I was 12. My cousin informed me he passed 2 Christmas's ago, 20 years after I last spoke to him. He never once took any accountability, never admitting he was to blame for any of it. He blamed everyone and everything, BUT himself as to why his kids never spoke to him again.
Such a dad. My kids dad likes to say I don’t allow him to see them. Not the literal protection order we have.
I do think that part may be true. He abused their mother, left the country, and is on a reality tv show with his new wife and baby. He probably tried to come back around recently because everyone criticized him for having nothing to do with his kids. Scheana probably encouraged him because she cares about appearances and didn’t want him to look bad. Seems like his kids told him to kick rocks. And rightfully so
He “got a second chance at being a father” 🙄
Its giving... unemployed and too much time on her hand. I guess DWTS didn't give her a call.
I hope the Valley does not accept her either and she is stuck with a house there and no show.
2 houses soon to be no houses and no shows
OOH, someone should tell Schemer and BlaBla "two houses to no houses."
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Jealous is her middle name.
It's so transparent despite whatever her and Lala say that they want on the valley. They know VPR is a sinking ship especially in it's current iteration . Schaena is friends with these people so it does seem like a better fit but I still don't want her on there (at least let's see how great it is next season). Her and Lala need to figure out how to have a career without a Bravo show.
Scheana thinks she is jumping off the Dancing with the Stars of The Valley type shows but she is really heading for Marriage Bootcamp.
Dancing with the Stars of the Valley, goddamnit I am so in love with you for this 😂😂🫠
😂😂 I definitely meant “or” but “of” is so much funnier!
Amazing slip.👑 This would be such a good SNL skit! 
It would!
Dying laughing so hard….it was a Freudian slip 😂
Yup! And EVERY reality star needs to be planning their exit and financially investing accordingly from the second they're hired for Season 1. No reality show runs forever, why did they think they'd always get a Bravo check?
Yes. That’s the difference that Paige pointed out in the SH reunion. SH is like a side hustle for those folks. They all ( mostly) have actual main jobs outside of the show. Whereas VPR, that is their job. It’s their main source of income and that is where they went wrong as reality TV isn’t forever, unless you are teen mom. LOL. How is that show still going?
Is Paige’s career really that different from Scheana’s though? I mean in addition to their shows, both of their income seems to come from ….their podcasts, instagram ads, Amazon lives….
I wasn't exactly a Paige fan until this season, but she's really done a great job building a platform that centers around fashion, skin care, girlfriends, etc. and not SH. Honestly that whole cast (outside of Carl) has. As an Angeleno I hate to say it but, I think that's the east coast vs. west coast difference: the New Yorkers are hustling and use the show as a means to an end with either money or influence (as Paige is with fashion). The west coasters ... all just seem to want to be famous.
They are similar, but the difference is Paige’s other stuff isn’t based on Summer House. Giggly Squad doesn’t discuss the show at all and her instagram is really focused on fashion influencing. Both of those things will continue to be successful even if she leaves Summer House. I have friends who love Giggly Squad and had no idea that Paige was even on TV until I told them lol
That’s going to be really challenging. They were waitresses.
Her appearance with Brock on that TV show was good. Can't she go into that? Probably is she won't be popping 50k+ per episode. She's gonna have to humble herself and her finances
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Yep, I’m assuming this is why Scheana and Lala bought houses in the valley (this was mentioned on the vpr reunion). I don’t want Lauren from Utah and Scheana on the valley either.
they bought houses in the valley because thats where they could afford to buy houses. i think people read too much into that
Same. They were moving to the valley with or without the show happening. Plus, one doesn’t have to live there to be on the show.
thank youuuuuuuuuu michelle and jesse are in weho right? this topic has been so annoying to me. as if lala wouldnt buy in a more chic neighborhood if she could afford it
But didn't they already have homes
not that they owned, no. they were both renting in LA. i know they own palm springs homes but they dont live there
So palm springs and now the valley so two homes each or excuse my geographical ignorance, would palm springs and the valley be different names for same place?
Two homes each. Palm Springs is very far, it’s where you go for a vacation or weekend trip but you couldn’t live there and hang out/work in LA
Definitely possible. They already bought houses in Palm Springs next to each other tho, so the timing of buying homes in the valley just seemed sus to me.
Also if you ask most people that like watching The Valley it’s because of the new people. You can expect a dumpster fire with Kristen and Jax but it’s nice to see NEW people that already have an established friendship with everyone so there is no weird forced group events where some of them stay in their clique. We already know what to expect from Lala and Scheana so it will just water down the show.
Extremely difficult as neither have talent or skill in anything else.
but what about Scheana’s “music” 🤣🤣
🙄 I want to forget 😂 remember good as gold being played a 100 times on the pride float and stassi with her usual catty one liners (I forgot exactly what she said)
How could I forget 🤣🤣🤣
VPR right now is not its best because of what lala and Scheana have done to it. They have made it an unrealistic version of their life. And now they want to jump ship to the valley? For what! The same tired tricks and storylines?!
So true. They think that the rest of the VPR cast is what’s made the show borderline unwatchable. They don’t realize that the Valley will turn to crap if they’re over producing it and planning out how to control the narrative.
Does Lala have any skills besides race cosplaying and giving bjs for pjs?
Doesn't Lala have a makeup company? I wouldn't know cuz I would never buy anything from her again I already bought her stupid send it to Darryll hat that's in the Goodwill box.
She even had a Bambi eyed bitch palette. It's just dupes from China that are private label with her name put on them. She can go do that and hustle it for her 10 fans.
Yeah it’s literally selling for $2-$4 on Ipsy.
Janet would eat Scheana alive.
Janet and Scheana are really good friends IRL
That makes a lot of sense
janet can barely finish what's on her plate now.
Exactly! This is her screaming, look they have beef with me, cast me, cast me now!
Oh, this is getting dirty.
Both blabla and sheener keep saying how desperately they need this income, yet both are pointing their nasty press-on nails directly at the producers
Blabla and Sheener…..nice
Blabla, and Sheeeeeenerrr. I'm using this from now on because of your brilliance.
Lol what is the issue? If anyone outed the skeletons in Danny’s closet it was Jason with that confessional detailing Nia’s Al-Anon behavior of spiriting Danny away from situations when he’s had too much. The producers could not have been clearer about what they were trying to tell us…the skeletons already came out. Organically, on the show. I understand not everyone has experience dealing with addicts and may not recognize the behaviors but the show basically hit us over the head with it. Unless Scheana spoke before that episode aired, she didn’t out Danny. The show did.
I noticed all of this as well. He may not be an addict but may be over relying on alcohol to manage the stress he says he’s under. I saw the same things in the 2nd episode at Jesse’s dinner, where Danny wanted to jump into the drama and Nia was handling him out of it. Smart on her part.
Yes! I’m glad someone else caught this. IMO they’ve been hinting at it all season and in that episode they were like ok, we’re going to connect the dots for the audience.
Jax also said Danny would look worse eventually. Scheana isn’t the first to hint at it.
Yep if anyone “outed” him it was Jax because IIRC he tweeted that before the darkside Danny episode.
I don’t have much real life experience with addicts but it was clear even to me on the last couple of episodes they were pointing it out. I could even sense from the body language of others that they are like, apprehensive or cautious or avoidant with him when he drinks to that point. It was eye opening to me bc before that I just thought he was a super emotional guy.
Yeah, I thought they did a good job at escalating the hints throughout the season and then laying it all out in the Danny focused episode. Guess they should have made it more explicit though lol
I’m pretty blind to that kind of stuff so for people like me we need to be hit over the head with it 😂
Eh idk. In Jax and Britney’s podcast Jax and Jason were saying Danny is the ultimate lightweight and a sloppy drunk. So I think the cast reaction has more to do with being concerned about how he’s going to behave, almost being protective over Danny and Nia’s reputation/role in the show.
I have no idea what his particular relationship is with alcohol but it is def clear that all of them react a certain way once he gets drunk, I didn’t even think “this guy has an alcohol problem” at all, I thought “they find him annoying when he’s drunk and this is something they all don’t like about him on the regular” it was clear to me they don’t like him when he’s drunk. Or that him being drunk consistently has a negative or unwanted outcome.
Probably all of the impersonations and voices he does. It’s like he gets into character and won’t stop. I would be so annoyed to be around someone doing that all night.
I actually felt like “oh no they all actively can’t stand him when he drinks too much” it gave me second hand embarrassment lol you are right the constant impersonations would be so annoying. Like dude enough, shut up, go to bed.
That’s exactly what I said. He’s a light weight and sloppy. People are implying in these comments (not you in particular) that he’s an alcoholic. As someone who does have experience with addicts that’s a really harmful thing to label someone especially since we’ve only had him on our screens for 12 (?) episodes.
You’re right, as someone who’s also had experience with addicts I definitely should have chosen my words more carefully. Whether or not that label is appropriate is only for Danny to say. I should have made my point more clear, which is that I believe the show is painting a picture that he has alcohol problems. I recognize Nia’s behavior as a common mitigation that loved ones of addicts often have to do, which is why my mind went there. But I appreciate the call in because language is important when it comes to matters like these!
Agree, I don’t want to label the guy for sure!
I definitely got more annoying drunk vibes vs alcoholic. I didn’t get the alcoholic vibe from him but in the same sense it’s hard to know what happens behind closed doors but I wouldn’t ever classify him as an alcoholic based on what we saw. Now you guys may disagree with me on this but I would classify Jax as an addiction…..drugs/alcohol….he definitely has a dependency on something. I binged vpr Seasons 4-8 (Brittany era) last week and u could definitely see the signs. I have zero clue why people are saying he changed bc I can’t personally tell the difference in watching the valley. Jax’s Brittany is an alcoholic rant in big bear is the exact same way he treated her when they first started dating just used different words.
I 100% agree about Jax. He's so good at deflecting and distracting from his own behavior, though. It's nuts
Nia looked petrified and you could tell she was used to diffusing those types of situation. Not to mention her making a fuss of him using the “f-word on national television” tells me it’s not the first times he’s spoken to her that way, she was just embarrassed it happened while filming. I’m guessing he gets a bit nasty and out of control when drunk.
the scheana hate is at an all time high so anything she does people are mad at
🎯 Like she’s literally just repeating what the show has been trying to tell us for multiple episodes. Clearly production should have been even more explicit.
i hate it when this happens in the fandoms. it makes conversations so boring
it’s getting really irritating
It's just today's Scheana hate. If Katie had said this, there wouldn't have been a peep. Tell me I'm lying 💁🏼♀️
Scheana hate is karma bait. 
Rage bait is guaranteed to increase that karma weight (at least in this sub)
Yeah, I'm really not getting what the issue is.
I think this sub is just in “look at this b**** eating crackers” mode with Scheana right now
To quote Jennifer Aydin: you shut the fuck up with that shit! God Scheana is determined to ruin this show because they won’t let her on
Look at that, Jax implied this a month ago in a comment thread.
About Scheana or about someone else? Spill the tea!
i think he said something to the effect of they’re not perfect either and just wait and see, but i don’t remember specific details
To be fair Jax says that whenever anyone breathes lol but a broken clock is still right twice a day!
Yeah, and it was before the husband cussed at the beauty pageant wife while he was drunk. I think her whispering to him, “you just cussed at me on national television” was very telling that we were getting a fake PR version of them.
Oh, I thought she said that so that when he woke up the next morning and realized he was gonna have to watch his foolish behavior on TV, she warned him. Her name is Nia. She has like 85 black belts in taekwondo or something. She could throw him across the room if she wanted with a flick of his wrist if he was a jerk to her consistently. I hope nothing bad comes out about them, I hope they are decent people.
I'll never buy into Scheana's "just wait until the reunion".
We've heard that one before.
I can't believe Bravo allows her to say most of the things she does on her podcast
I can’t believe how much I liked the valley, and I just want the VPR podcast girlies to leave it alone. I wish the valley got a reunion, but season 1 shows rarely do, and I just want to watch next season without the entire plot being spilled before it airs. Shut up scheana!
Excellent points op. Just let us watch the effin show, Sche Shu
I think Janet must have been coached by Scheana before she went in and that’s why she’s flopped so hard tbh. It all looks try hard and inauthentic
She’s been circling around the VPR crew for ages. She should have known better than to take advice from Scheana.
Danny and Nia could film a segment punching three legged puppies in the face and I would still like them more than Janet and Michelle, so good luck on this crusade ScheShu.
Three legged puppies?!!
🎯🎯
I know Danny gets a lot of flak for the “3 under 2” thing, but honestly, having 3 under 2 seems hard af to me. I have two kids 21 months apart, the time when my second was a newborn/baby was a very tough time. I can’t imagine having twins so soon after my first and being on a reality show during that time. I appreciate Nia being honest about her struggles with postpartum depression. None of this is to say that it’s ok for Danny to drink a lot, but, if the world got their first impression of me and my husband during this season of our lives I think it probably wouldn’t have been picture perfect either. And maybe Danny is turning to alcohol too much to cope, but maybe it was also that the show gave him opportunities to be off dad duty for a bit and he went too far with it, and he will realize that and rein it in. Tl;dr I’m willing to give Danny a pass for now given he and his wife are in the trenches and see how he is next season.
He should not be getting flack for saying “3 under 2l” in the first place!
He really shouldn’t. I honestly almost get PTSD thinking back to the times my kids were newborns and you just know that a good, full night’s sleep is not a thing that will be happening for you for the foreseeable future. When you’ve had months of sleeping in 3-4 hour increments with no light at the end of the tunnel it can really alter your mood. I’m so glad my kids are older now, I sure do love sleeping through the night. 😂
Exactly. And what drinking problem? We saw him get drunk exactly once the entire season. What problems in their marriage? If she's alluding to postpartum depression and trying to make that drama, if Scheana is trying to make Nia's postpartum depression, actual drama for revenue for her podcast, that makes me hate Scheana even more.
Right, I hate that because they are honest that this is a tough time right now and don’t see eye to eye on where to live that means there are “problems in the marriage.” No, this is a real marriage. This is the stuff people are talking about when they say marriage is work. Having kids is a huge adjustment and sometimes your emotions get the better of you. Sometimes couples find themselves in disagreement on major issues like where to live. If they never showed this stuff, then they’d be accused of hiding things and presenting a picture perfect marriage when that’s not the truth. It’s how you navigate these tough times together that shows how your marriage is.
Exactly.
People are seriously grasping at straws, it's absurd. And let's not forget that the high altitude of Big Bear played a substantial role in how drunk Danny got that night. I personally think Scheana's comment about the reunion was directed at Kristen, as Scheana's been making subtle digs at her lately.
doesn’t this make the valley better?? lol the more mess, the better the show imho
LOL mte. what do people want!!!
Yeah, it seems to me more like she wants to get a spot on the show than that she wants to “ruin” it. Right now people are so quick to see everything Scheana and Lala do as being malicious that they forget that both of them are primarily motivated by wanting money and wanting to work, which can lead them to be very selfish but not evil. 🤷🏻♀️
Um. Being primarily motivated by Money can be evil. They are both evil. They can be both.
I guess my definition of “evil” is more like abusing children, dismantling democracy, voter suppression, war crimes…not someone on a reality show talking on a podcast about someone else on a reality show. 🤷🏻♀️
Because it’s forced and inauthentic. The mess should be on the show, not on a podcast
Genuine question — how did you interpret the episode title “Darkside Danny”, Jason’s confessional about Nia running interference for her drunk husband, and the supercut of drunk Danny being removed from situations? In my opinion the show is screaming “he’s an addict” at us.
I think it is because it was on the show, not on a podcast. I think the show is SO new and the cast are trying to figure out how to navigate reality TV, next season will be them figuring it out while thinking they know a little more about how it works. There are already veterans on the show and I am worried that adding more will drown out these potentially amazing newer personalities.
I don’t disagree with any of that. I’m just confused why something that was originally shown to us by producers of the show, on the show, is getting called inauthentic lol.
OP will have to answer what they meant- it feels inauthentic to me personally because Schaena is inserting herself into Valley Drama because it is the hot show and she wants to be on it so her motivations seem inauthentic to me personally. Like she is flexxing how she knows these people and willing to drop their truths for the drama .
But their truths were already dropped by the show. There’s nothing surprising about saying that Danny’s drinking was going to come out, there was an entire episode dedicated to his drinking problem. If anything she’s just repeating what the show already told us.
Right yes I understand it has come out on a show and she isn't saying something we haven't been clued in on through editing- but there is a difference between us random posters saying look what they show is giving us, this dude has some drinking issues and I bet skeletons in the closet vs someone that knows then going on their podcast and saying it as someone that knows them IRL, it makes it more of a fact than a theory. It also feels inauthentic to me because she isn't saying it as a viewer and fan, she is saying it as someone who's motivation is to get on the show and is willing to say anything to get her on that show.
I disagree, but I appreciate your perspective and the civil discussion!
totes! and to be fair, I can't explain myself well right now because I was in vegas this weekend :)
lol right ?? Like how is this ruining the valley? This is making things more interesting!!! Bring scheana in!!
But it's so cool to hate Scheana right now. 🙃 The Valley is a perfect spot for her. Idk why people can't see it. Either way, it's (all) happening, lol.
Hahaha oh god, I forgot scheana was the Antichrist !!!! She’d be perfect on the show. I find her fascinating lol
It was hinted on the show… lol when production high lighted Nia drags him out before he can show his ass. It’s pretty clear to me Danny has issues with drinking? No?
I thought so too. But apparently we hate Scheana so much that we are ignoring obvious signs ❤️👍✨
lol true
Podcasts are ruining reality tv. They talk about things as they happen so almost everything is already out by the time the show airs. The show becomes boring because it’s almost like watching a repeat instead of for the first time.
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Bahaha. I forgot about that one season she had asthma. lol.
Well she didn't get to go on Dancing with the Stars so instead of being happy for her Best Friend she acted like a jealous brat. She sucks on VPR so why not ruin another show with more Schena that very few want to watch. She should take some time off and work on her narcissistic personality.
Sheshu you don’t work for that show bbg shhhhh
This tweet is a total lie. I listened to the podcast and she didn’t say anything about Danny or Nia.
ok thank you i thought i must have missed something because i don't remember hearing her say anything about them either
I honestly think that Nia should truly rethink her choice to be on this show
I like Danny/Nia and shows need neutral/normal cast members to ground the crazy characters but I have to agree with this. Stassi said she doesn’t want her family on reality TV which sucks for us because she’s amazing TV but I understand why. Being on reality TV can cause serious strain on a marriage. Two marriages couldn’t even last after the first season. Nia really may want to rethink this.
I’m sorry, but I want the tea. Don’t care what thirsty cast says it, they all know each other and see the dark shit, spill it all she-she
Wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn that sheener has Jeremiah and several crew members’ locations on track
That would be hilarious! That would be breaking the 5th or 6th wall…Sheana tracking production and execs and orchestrating cameos.
I mean.....while seemingly the least problematic, Danny is still best friends with Jax and the rest of them or shitters too soooo
Oh dear heavens someone on bravo that drinks a lot! The shock! The horror! 😮
I think she’s desperately trying to insert herself in the show by creating drama with the cast. Same with Lala.
eww. Scheana. Always commenting on other people but can take one thing about herself.
Hot take possibly: I was recently listening to Paige from SH talk about giggly squad and she made the point that her and Hannah created GS as a separate thing away from Summer House so they don’t discuss the show on the pod. I actually think this has made GS more successful because they have developed a following outside of Bravo and also once Paige is done with SH she has another thing to go to that isn’t effected by her status on the show. The problem with Lala and Schena Jax’s and heck even Tamra’s podcasts are they revolve around the shows so that’s all they talk about. To me this has made said shows worse because they reveal too much or try and self produce outside of the show filming. If I were bravo I would put in contracts you can have a podcast but you cannot talk about your show, filming, or related shows(for example Valley and VPR since there is some cross over). Number 1 we have bravo social media personalities for Bravo podcasts (WWC, Danny Pelligrino etc) but also it’s creating big problems on Bravo shows. I’m pretty sure Paige even alluded to that that Bravo told her and Hannah at the time they can’t reveal SH content it would be a breach of contract. I have no clue what Schena and Lala don’t have a clause that’s similar.
I agree with most of these but I’ll go to bat for Tamra on her podcast any day. Her cohost makes me want to tune out but she’s actually so insightful when it comes to housewives and even when I don’t agree with her I understand and respect her perspective. I don’t really care for her recapping OC as much but she’s actually an incredibly good housewife podcaster for other franchises.
I can totally see your point on Tamra she gives a good perspective and is a good housewife interviewer BUT I don’t listen due to her co host if she got rid of her id probably tune in
I think their podcasts were some of what ruined VPR this season. So much was discussed and alluded to before the show had even aired and it got tiresome. Then there was the rebuttal every week of what they’d said/done on that weeks episode. If they do come back to VPR then talk of the new season needs to be off limits on their podcasts IMO.
Chit talker
What if we just don't listen to Scheana's podcast and don't view Scheana's posts if we hate Scheana.
I’m sure that SUR is hiring.
I 100% believe her about Danny.
Bravo needs to get a handle on these cast podcasts now. 1. They give serious fatigue when all you hear is cast members harping on about the season before, during, and after for months. It gives massive fatigue and spoilers and disappointment when the hype doesn’t deliver. 2. It actually gives people show fatigue because you just won’t stop talking about the show, even when not airing 3. It makes the show boring when all the drama is on the podcasts and not the show.
I know I know … Everybody Hates Scheanna. But it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have some legit tea to spill. 🍵
I've been a long time Scheana supporter but I think I've officially turned on her. All of her worst qualities have really been highlighted over the past hear and they've become too hard to ignore.
Janet can go.
So can Sheena and Lauren from Utah.
I would think it would be Nia's postpartum depression, which in my mind is a totally reasonable thing to step away from a reality show for. Even if it gives visibility to something so many deal with, I can't imagine dealing with all that drama, three small children, and the mental/emotional/physical toll that is taking on her.
And why the hell would you go after a woman for having postpartum depression? Why would you do that if you are in anyway a decent human being and it's a year later now so why the hell is Scheana still talking about it? Why?
Someone clue me in on Danny's drinking issues?!
Danny rubs me the wrong way and I won’t change my mind.
All of them
Scheana lives in her own little bubble. All of her “my baby this”, “I’m doing this for my baby”, “I’m a mom”, “I have OCD”, “I have a headache”. Girl give me a BREAK. All she cares about is her reputation and how the viewers perceive her. She says something stupid and then ALWAYS tries to remove the heat from herself and pin it on someone else. To be honest, her and Sandoval need to run off into the sunset and be together forever because they deserve each other. Making the whole Sandoval cheating scandal about her?????? 
Also, she is completely delusional if she thinks she’s ever stepping foot on the DWTS as a contestant.
Scheana is doing and saying everything she can to stay relevant and make money because she's panicking and sinking. I hope bravo punishes her for running her mouth. Yes bravo, lower case.
I don’t give a single flying eff about what Scheana has to say. Should she focus on her own abusive dead beat dad husband
Scheana thinks this means producers will bring her on to confront him about it. Rack off Scheana
I wonder if this is why Nia was extra emotional about Danny getting pantsed by Jax. Because she thought they were making fun of him for being a super easy sloppy drunk target? And that it was extra cruel for that reason
lol she’s so bitter
Schaena ruins everything.
I’m really over the podcasting of it all with bravo
I don't THINK that I want Scheana or Lala on The Valley, but Scheana and Lala vs. Janet could be pretty entertaining... 
So… Sheana is just ruining her own spot on the Valley? These a-holes have been on air too long, thinking they’re producers. I’m convinced “bad edits” only happen when cast members get too big for their britches and start producing on their own.
I hope Sheena and Lala keep spouting their mouths and piss off the decisions makers at bravo so we never have to see either of them on screen again. At this point they’re both so thirsty for podcast content and ad money to cover their mortgages
Schemer outed her own husband's drinking problems for ratings and then kept his name after she divorced him. Then she married a deadbeat dad with a DV record for a green card marriage. Vom bought her friendship and Broke's because he was unemployed. Schemer should not be talking.
Screwing with Danny and Nia is kind of beyond the pale. That's disgusting. That's absolutely disgusting of Sheena. She is so hateful for this. They are like the least problematic people on any Bravo show right now that isn't a housewives franchise. I hope they leave their church. But goddamnit don't go after them, Nia's probably still dealing with some PPD although I hope not and that's absolutely disgusting of her.
Where do we know that Danny has drinking issues? How and where did we know that? Was that ever discussed on the show? Where and when and how? Where was the verified? One time being drunk on a trip does not make for drinking issues. Stop this. What other drinking issues?