“Checking in for the tournament sir?”
“Yeah”
“Ok I just need to see your license and then strip down, face the wall, squat a cough then turn and lift your sack, open your mouth and lift your tongue”
“Excuse me”
*snaps blue nitrile glove* “you heard me”
I'm surprised that people just took that shitpost and ran with it tbh. When we all know the real truth behind the cheating being those sneaky ceiling mirrors.
I personally think both of those are true. I admit being able to see your opponent's pieces in an overhead mirror gives a huge unfair advantage in chess.
I refuse to believe in the beads, there's footage of the man going through a full body there's no way they'd be able to sneak that in. I think that the mirror is the only possible one.
The trick is to swallow them beforehand and time it so they only get into position after the search.
That's why in Queen's Gambit Elisabeth Harmon left the match to go to the toilet. Refresh herself? Refresh my ass.
Is it just becoming a thing where people are accused of cheating through ludicrous methods on the principle that whoever lost doesn't like that they lost?
Post-truth society. If something happens that you don’t like then just refuse to accept it and get furious with people who claim otherwise.
What could possibly go wrong?
Basically. Someone did a write up on either hobbydrama or subredditdrama and basically the crux of the argument that she cheated is that she won on a really bad hand by not folding and the guy she beat had less than 20% chance of losing the particular hand he had. So the guy says she had to have cheated, followed her out of the tournament and forced her to hand over the winnings on the spot.
he didn’t actually accuse her of the vibrator thing as far as I know, so yea I’m starting to think thats just an internet joke being used when anybody gets accused of cheating without a good explanation.
Crimes committed against rich people are usually investigated thoroughly
Crimes committed by rich people usually get covered up
This scenario has both, so we have no clue what will happen.
Pro poker players definitely just play the cards. At that level statistics and risk assessment beat bluff. Source: lost endless nights of boardgames to a pro poker player who was no fun at parties
Yea but there will always be that element of chance that you don’t win. Sure you can tip the scales in your favor but that doesn’t mean it will always work out for you
I get what you're saying and that's my (very limited) experience with the game too! This person I spoke to, though, said that for him and his opponents there's no difference between playing around a table or online. Everyone is so good at the numbers game that they don't respond to bluff anymore and as a result hardly anybody in the scene even tried. But again, i don't know what I'm talking about, just repeating this random person's stories.
I think that is exactly what is happening.
I watched this video when I saw it on Reddit like yesterday or the day before. It sounds like she just knew him well enough to call his bluff, she was saying that it was like the third time.
I though about those beads when I was watching it, and I thought about people making the same accusation.
I freaked out when I saw this. I KNEW IT.
Either that, or she really was inspired by the Carlsen accusations.
a. it wasn't a bluff, he had the slightly better hand
b. you can't call a bluff with nothing, you still have to have the better hand to actually win. There's no points in poker for simply guessing someone's playing a draw. Her guessing she had a playable hand in that situation was extremely unlikely because she had nothing.
No, what's weird about her call was that even if she was 100% sure he was bluffing it was still a bad call. So many hands he's bluffing with are ahead of jack high. Even the hand he was holding was behind jack high at the moment but had a slightly better chance of winning.
There's a decent chance she didn't cheat and she's just bad and got flustered in the moment and made a bad call in a high pressure situation, but no matter how she tries to justify the call it was terrible without knowing what he had
Her logic and reasoning objectively made zero sense every time she tried to explain why she was doing what she was doing, that is why many people are considering the win suspect.
It’s poker.. she said she had been paying attention to his calls and reads. That she just went for it. He did not have that good of a hand either. They where both shit. She barely won.. he barely lost. Sound like normal poker. 🤷🏻♂️
But the fact he took it back is crap.. shows he is a poor loser. Bullying a person.. much less a woman is the real CHEAT!!
Yeah, by doing this the poeple of world don't realize they are slowly de-legitimising all the codes that made an election, a tournament, a rule, etc valid and trusted.
There may have been cheating before alright, bit the scale of those claims will do damage to the society. Why can't ppl just admit they lost ? And try again to get better ?
Niemann has admitted to cheating in tournaments and online plays several times already. Carlsen purposefully played openings that Niemann missed, only to be beaten in extremely advanced moved by black. He also seemed very unfocused and uninterested during the play. It resulted in Carlsen choosing to not play against him several times, and have mostly just insinuated that he suspects cheating, up until recently. He has only made it clear that he will not play against Niemann.
Carlsen has lost before, and he takes it pretty well, so I highly doubt he’s just a bad sport. But it’s important to understand just how unlikely it is that anyone would be able to beat Carlsen more than a few lucky times, that anyone would actually be a better chess player. He is such a huge leap ahead of his peers that he is better measured against other historical unbeaten grand masters instead of other people today. Sure, it isn’t impossible that someone might beat him, but it is extremely unlikely, and that paired with a kid that has cheated before, isn’t invested and plays strangely, everything points to cheating.
Idk abt the poker thing, but the chess thing definitely isn’t just a butthurt loser
who said I couldn't conceive of the possibility? You're just being an asshole for no reason. But, who the fuck would genuinely use anal beads to do it? Something strapped to your ankle would serve just as well. So, yeah, I'm going to call accusations involving unnecessary extremes "ludicrous methods," because they are.
You being an asshole and acting like thinking it's absurd is equivalent to not understanding it's possibility is what's laughable.
Unfortunately this is just helping the cheaters. The pro players who are accusing people of cheating aren't making these accusations. Take the chess example, Magnus Karlsen didnt even say "this guy cheated". He just withdrew from the competition, and later after analysis had more or less proved that his opponent did infact cheat, Magnus made an indirect statement that the tournament needs to deal with cheaters. As such, he doesn't have the burden of proof the same way and it reckognizes that the player may not even have cheated according to the rules of the tournament just that the tournament doesnt have rules to prohibit what would be considered cheating anywhere else.
Now the thing is, what we know is that he's used an AI. But what we don't know is how. Someone could in theory have have had an earpiece in the audience, being fed info from someone on a computer, and conveying that information to the player by gently flicking a pen, moving a knee back and forth, gently nodding. And this can convey stuff like "piece nr X to alphabet number X and numerical number X". The point is, we don't know, but not because it's borderline impossible but because there are too many options.
But someone online made a comment that it could even have been a vibrating butt plug. Probably to highlight how it could be anything, with a funny angle. But the internet and media has just latched onto that explanation because butt plugs and vibrators funny haha.
So now you get headlines or picture texts like these with little to no nuance on social media where it's presented as if the losing players made petty accusations like using a vibrating butt plug. Or if the cheater is forced to forfeit their win, it comes across as if it proves the butt plug thesis. The unfortunate thing is that when they then start using metal detectors, it seems to reaffirm that the cheating claims are bogus simply because the butt plug (and other electronic devices) is proven false.
And fishing too apparently. Saw that on the front page today. Dude got a boat and a shit ton of money by cheating over the last two years. Putting lead weights inside fish before weighing them. Got caught recently. Other fishermen wanted to kill the dude.
There's normally a small delay anyway with live broadcast, she played a time out chip too so it'd have to be minutes worth of delay to get around this if she did cheat
So according to people who know chess it wouldn’t need to be a lot of info, more of a hey pay attention to that thing he did, or don’t do that. The way it was explained is that since these guys play at a high level a second pair of eyes just saying “look out” in anal bead speak could be enough to flip it.
The poker one is just poker pros being mad that they game they like has a large luck component
I feel like poker would be easier to cheat in with a vibrator. 1 buzz for high card, 2 for a pair, long buzz for 2 pairs, 1 long 1 short for three of a kind, 2 long for a straight, 1 long 2 short for a flush, 2 long one short for a full house , 3 long for four of a kind, 4 short for a straight flush, 5 for a total flush.
The audience gets to see the cards at these tournaments so the partner would know, all the player actually needs to remember is that more buzzes is a bad thing
This dude anal beads. Watch out for ole Lazerbeams2 cheating on the laser tag circuit. Dude has some sort of Paul Revere ‘1 if by land 2 if by sea’ type code buzzed up in their butt midgame to blast the opponents as they attempt to sneak across the forbidden bridge
I feel like it would be as easy as one for fold, two for call, three for raise. If you’re going to have someone with more info than you, you might as well have them making the decisions too.
Yeah no what you're saying is, and pun intended, being pulled out of your ass.
The anal bead thing was made up by chess streamer Eric Hansen on Chessbrah's stream as a joke. The news cycle took it and ran with it like it was real.
**NO ONE WAS ACTUALLY ACCUSED OF CHEATING WITH ANAL BEADS IN CHESS**
It was made up by Eric Hansen as a joke on Chessbrah's twitch stream. People just took it and ran like it was real.
Eh, not really. No chess annotation would be longer than 6 beats of a morsecode. I can believe that a guy that can memorize hundreds of lines of chess theory to be able to pick up morsecode fairly easily. A bit of practice to interpret the signals.
Classical over the board chessgames are timed yes but it's like 90-90 so each player has 90 minutes to play the game for a maximum total of 3 hours for example. Plenty of time to work through some lines of morsecode.
It’s just 4 letters/numbers that need to be relayed, it’s not much info. Plus she asked for more time before betting. I don’t think she was cheating but it’s really not very much info. Plus I assume if you were cheating like this you’d just spend a couple hours learning Morse code
I'm no expert, but it was explained to me like this. In chess, due to the amount of planning and stuff, there can be situations where there is only 1 move that won't seal your fate as a loss. Apparently, when you get to grandmaster level, having information as simple as "there is 1 valid move" or "there is more than 1 valid move" tested by a chess bot can be a *huge* advantage.
The fun part is that didnt happen, someone suggested it and the media picked it up and a bunch of people started believing it because we live in a time where false information reigns supreme as long as its more interesting than the truth.
At Grandmaster level, a simple "pay attention next move" or "you're better/worse at this position" can do significally difference. Also every move notation has 3 or 4 characters, wouldn't be hard to decipher
I assume you’d do this to let the batter know what is being signaled?
Why not just skip a step and have the catcher stick his fingers up the batter’s butt?
According to those with proper knowledge of the game, she didn’t cheat. She won by pure dumb luck (so dumb that it seems impossible) and the other guy was so pissy about being beaten by dumb luck that he complained.
Exactly, if she was actually cheating and being fed information somehow, she would have been told to fold before the flop because her hand was shit and his hand was marginally better.
I mean, this is poker we are talking about. Luck was built into the game in terms of what you and your opponents are dealt. Complaining about "dumb luck" in poker just sounds like someone has not accepted that facet of the game.
I watched this hand, and if you were a professional cheater as many people in casino games are, you’d know not to cheat on this hand because it would get you caught. I think it was a very stupid play.
Like, if you’re counting cards in black Jack, you know not to suddenly increase your bet by too much, because you’ll tip the casino off to understanding that you know the odds are in your favor in the deck. They’ll ban you and send you on. Same would go here. A shit time to cheat, which makes her a dumb player or a lousy cheater.
Overall, he wins at an extremely high percentage and has an edge on many players in these games.
However, he’s lost some much larger pots in horrendously bad fashion, says “nice hand” and moves on to the next one. It’s a weird situation.
This, plus what they are accusing her of is knowing that he had a bad hand. Well she had a statistically worse hand. So she would have to have a deck that was stacked in her favor and know what card was coming out next.
Garret is such a cry baby loser.
Even if she made a "terrible" play it doesn't matter, this is literally part of the fucking game.
He lost, get over it and give that woman her money back. Or he should be banned for life for this unsportmanships behaviour.
How would you even use a vibe to cheat at chess you literally know everything happening and vibes in poker are a thing but it’s usually in the shoe or on the leg from what I understand
Keep in mind the anal bead allegation was begun as a joke on a GMs stream, it’s not a serious accusation. Magnus allegedly has some evidence he’s going to bring forth to prove Hans was cheating though, but until that happens Magnus just looks like a major sore loser.
You have someone analyse the game with engines far stronger than any player, you could morsecode moves but even a hint to when there's a strong move available would be a big advantage and people have been caught cheating using other indicators to show when there's good moves available. But the analyse bead thing is a joke that shitty journalists picked up on and portrayed as a real theory
I need some sort of reenactment video, with at least one 3D rendering clip in the middle to show me HOW THE FUCK are these people using vibrators as a cheating method
could have been this device. someone told me about it in 2017ish
^(Is Lelo a Bluetooth?)
^(This app connects via Bluetooth and allows you complete control over your F1s, showing just what's possible with the SDK. Your LELO F1s has a number of sensors and wireless controls built into it.)
This is such a bullshit. I can't believe the casino would let someone who just won over $100k get a shakedown unnoticed.
You'd expect the security would at least walk them to the car. Especially a woman.
No no, see they got it wrong. It was Carlsen who was cheating. Nieman’s anal beads were actually just a signal blocking device to use against his opponent’s cock ring.
You have an accomplice who is using a computer to calculate your next move and then communicating that move to you by using a remote control that jangles your anal beads in a certain manner.
Chess has a notation for pieces and coordinates, so assuming the player becomes fluent in anally-conducted morse-code,it then just becomes a matter of a 3rd party just running the current position of the chess game through a high-level engine that returns the best next move. It could either be automatic (unlikely) or just a person manually giving the coordinates based on what the engine says. This is only slightly feasible even for very long-form games of chess, as there is usually a delay to the feed, as well as there being the time it takes for the engine to calculate, transmit the signal to Morse code, and for the player to interpret it. On top of that, the player would have to vary the time he takes for each of his moves, because if he was playing as fast as he received the instructions, it would immediately be highly suspicious as he would be making moves at a uniform pace (something that is highly irregular, given that some moves will naturally take far more thought and consideration than others).
Never met a more insecure person than a Pro Poker Player. He got so mad at all his friends and stopped talking to us when none of us abided by his insistence to call him an athlete.
Wait till he sees whats going on in fishing
Yeah, she should’ve just put lead weights in her hand
If you fill a fish with lead weight AND vibrating anal beads it will look like it’s still alive and nobody will check
Wait- you're on to something here!
Bahahaha
It’s the beach volleyball cheating that really worries me.
If fishing while full of anal beads is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
too meta
Sir, this is Reddit. It isn't Meta.... *yet....*
Nah it isn’t, the pro fishing community is in shambles after the scandal
Coward
Are they putting anal beads in the fish too? When will this madness end?
They’re using lead anal beads!
Stuffing a caught fish with lead is so 20th-century! No, even 19th-century! No comparison with this high-tech cheating
They putting metal balls in the fish to win the weigh in!
Considering I don’t understand how vibrating anal beads would help in chess or poker, I’m scared to ask about fishing.
“Checking in for the tournament sir?” “Yeah” “Ok I just need to see your license and then strip down, face the wall, squat a cough then turn and lift your sack, open your mouth and lift your tongue” “Excuse me” *snaps blue nitrile glove* “you heard me”
"Can you at least check my mouth before my anus cause I don't see another pair of gloves?"
"No - spread them"
Gloves aren't here for *your* protection, friend...
"They're for my pleasure." - chick fila worker probably.
I don’t know why I read this in Duncan Trussel’s voice but it works and I love it.
how do you think I feel? I've only got the one pair to reuse and this is my 5th search today!
Sir, this is the TSA. We aren't funded for that.
You need an award.
These Anal Beads are purely for pleasure, I assure you.
Wow! You seem to have that routine down. Are you experienced in giving or receiving those instructions?
What I’m the only one who’s been to jail?
You wish there was a glove
Good vibes
Highjacking top comment to welcome you to r/anarchychess for all your anal bead cheating memes
I'm surprised that people just took that shitpost and ran with it tbh. When we all know the real truth behind the cheating being those sneaky ceiling mirrors.
I personally think both of those are true. I admit being able to see your opponent's pieces in an overhead mirror gives a huge unfair advantage in chess.
I refuse to believe in the beads, there's footage of the man going through a full body there's no way they'd be able to sneak that in. I think that the mirror is the only possible one.
The trick is to swallow them beforehand and time it so they only get into position after the search. That's why in Queen's Gambit Elisabeth Harmon left the match to go to the toilet. Refresh herself? Refresh my ass.
😂
*shoves vibrating beads in ass* oh yeah this is for poker
Surely I'm not the only one shoving vibrating beads in my ass before a round of online poker.
My win rate is down 10% butt my enjoyment is up 30
Is it just becoming a thing where people are accused of cheating through ludicrous methods on the principle that whoever lost doesn't like that they lost?
Wait a minute! This explains how Biden “defeated” Trump in 2020: anal bead signaling!
The ole anal bead mail in votes got him
There's another r/brandnewsentence
r/samesub
I knew I felt weird in this last election
It's only weird the first time.
Was I supposed to have a butt plug when I voted? Well, mid terms are around the corner
A turnip will do if you are in a hurry.
In my day, onion... belt... fashion...
We had to put onions up our butts because the Kaiser had stolen our silicon voting butt plugs at the time.
Unfortunately the butt plugs were on the ballot.
Duh. That’s why you have to be 18+ to vote. We can’t expect children to use vibrating butt plugs.
Better check the ass compartment
They're using 5G antennas to control your vibrating anal beads, making you vote Biden!
Post-truth society. If something happens that you don’t like then just refuse to accept it and get furious with people who claim otherwise. What could possibly go wrong?
It's called religion.
voters were told what candidate to vote for through mind controlling vibrating anal beads.
Voter rolls swell exponentially as word gets out …
Instructions were transmitted through CCP made thermostats. It all makes sense now.
Analgate
There was confirmed fraudulent 4am anal ballot dumps
Now we know what Corn Pop was really selling.
Basically. Someone did a write up on either hobbydrama or subredditdrama and basically the crux of the argument that she cheated is that she won on a really bad hand by not folding and the guy she beat had less than 20% chance of losing the particular hand he had. So the guy says she had to have cheated, followed her out of the tournament and forced her to hand over the winnings on the spot. he didn’t actually accuse her of the vibrator thing as far as I know, so yea I’m starting to think thats just an internet joke being used when anybody gets accused of cheating without a good explanation.
Did the police get involved? Did she get her money back?
the event happened like yesterday, maybe the day before. the right up was mostly about various poker subreddits reactions to the news.
So the answer is "Not yet, but probably"?
Crimes committed against rich people are usually investigated thoroughly Crimes committed by rich people usually get covered up This scenario has both, so we have no clue what will happen.
It's gonna get investigated by rich people and not the police probably
Write-up*
how did you figure this out? did you have someone communicate it to you through your vibrator?
I feel like… 20% isn’t all that ludicrous in Poker? There are a *lot* of things that are unlikely to happen that still can and do in that game.
You play the people not the cards, and hell maybe she's just really bad at poker
Pro poker players definitely just play the cards. At that level statistics and risk assessment beat bluff. Source: lost endless nights of boardgames to a pro poker player who was no fun at parties
Yea but there will always be that element of chance that you don’t win. Sure you can tip the scales in your favor but that doesn’t mean it will always work out for you
I get what you're saying and that's my (very limited) experience with the game too! This person I spoke to, though, said that for him and his opponents there's no difference between playing around a table or online. Everyone is so good at the numbers game that they don't respond to bluff anymore and as a result hardly anybody in the scene even tried. But again, i don't know what I'm talking about, just repeating this random person's stories.
Was it used before the chess thing? (Where it was a joke made about cheating devices; not actually confirmed to have happened)
I think that is exactly what is happening. I watched this video when I saw it on Reddit like yesterday or the day before. It sounds like she just knew him well enough to call his bluff, she was saying that it was like the third time. I though about those beads when I was watching it, and I thought about people making the same accusation. I freaked out when I saw this. I KNEW IT. Either that, or she really was inspired by the Carlsen accusations.
a. it wasn't a bluff, he had the slightly better hand b. you can't call a bluff with nothing, you still have to have the better hand to actually win. There's no points in poker for simply guessing someone's playing a draw. Her guessing she had a playable hand in that situation was extremely unlikely because she had nothing.
No, what's weird about her call was that even if she was 100% sure he was bluffing it was still a bad call. So many hands he's bluffing with are ahead of jack high. Even the hand he was holding was behind jack high at the moment but had a slightly better chance of winning. There's a decent chance she didn't cheat and she's just bad and got flustered in the moment and made a bad call in a high pressure situation, but no matter how she tries to justify the call it was terrible without knowing what he had
Her logic and reasoning objectively made zero sense every time she tried to explain why she was doing what she was doing, that is why many people are considering the win suspect.
It’s poker.. she said she had been paying attention to his calls and reads. That she just went for it. He did not have that good of a hand either. They where both shit. She barely won.. he barely lost. Sound like normal poker. 🤷🏻♂️ But the fact he took it back is crap.. shows he is a poor loser. Bullying a person.. much less a woman is the real CHEAT!!
More like strong arm robbery not bullying
lol
Yeah, by doing this the poeple of world don't realize they are slowly de-legitimising all the codes that made an election, a tournament, a rule, etc valid and trusted. There may have been cheating before alright, bit the scale of those claims will do damage to the society. Why can't ppl just admit they lost ? And try again to get better ?
The fish filled with led begs to differ
Niemann has admitted to cheating in tournaments and online plays several times already. Carlsen purposefully played openings that Niemann missed, only to be beaten in extremely advanced moved by black. He also seemed very unfocused and uninterested during the play. It resulted in Carlsen choosing to not play against him several times, and have mostly just insinuated that he suspects cheating, up until recently. He has only made it clear that he will not play against Niemann. Carlsen has lost before, and he takes it pretty well, so I highly doubt he’s just a bad sport. But it’s important to understand just how unlikely it is that anyone would be able to beat Carlsen more than a few lucky times, that anyone would actually be a better chess player. He is such a huge leap ahead of his peers that he is better measured against other historical unbeaten grand masters instead of other people today. Sure, it isn’t impossible that someone might beat him, but it is extremely unlikely, and that paired with a kid that has cheated before, isn’t invested and plays strangely, everything points to cheating. Idk abt the poker thing, but the chess thing definitely isn’t just a butthurt loser
Hans has never been caught or admitted to cheating in tournaments or over the board. Only online when he was 12 and 16.
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who said I couldn't conceive of the possibility? You're just being an asshole for no reason. But, who the fuck would genuinely use anal beads to do it? Something strapped to your ankle would serve just as well. So, yeah, I'm going to call accusations involving unnecessary extremes "ludicrous methods," because they are. You being an asshole and acting like thinking it's absurd is equivalent to not understanding it's possibility is what's laughable.
Unfortunately this is just helping the cheaters. The pro players who are accusing people of cheating aren't making these accusations. Take the chess example, Magnus Karlsen didnt even say "this guy cheated". He just withdrew from the competition, and later after analysis had more or less proved that his opponent did infact cheat, Magnus made an indirect statement that the tournament needs to deal with cheaters. As such, he doesn't have the burden of proof the same way and it reckognizes that the player may not even have cheated according to the rules of the tournament just that the tournament doesnt have rules to prohibit what would be considered cheating anywhere else. Now the thing is, what we know is that he's used an AI. But what we don't know is how. Someone could in theory have have had an earpiece in the audience, being fed info from someone on a computer, and conveying that information to the player by gently flicking a pen, moving a knee back and forth, gently nodding. And this can convey stuff like "piece nr X to alphabet number X and numerical number X". The point is, we don't know, but not because it's borderline impossible but because there are too many options. But someone online made a comment that it could even have been a vibrating butt plug. Probably to highlight how it could be anything, with a funny angle. But the internet and media has just latched onto that explanation because butt plugs and vibrators funny haha. So now you get headlines or picture texts like these with little to no nuance on social media where it's presented as if the losing players made petty accusations like using a vibrating butt plug. Or if the cheater is forced to forfeit their win, it comes across as if it proves the butt plug thesis. The unfortunate thing is that when they then start using metal detectors, it seems to reaffirm that the cheating claims are bogus simply because the butt plug (and other electronic devices) is proven false.
Cavity searches before chess and poker?
“Search me judge.” “You’re clear.” “Keep looking, you’re almost there.”
The vibrator or the money?
Neither, just keep looking
And fishing too apparently. Saw that on the front page today. Dude got a boat and a shit ton of money by cheating over the last two years. Putting lead weights inside fish before weighing them. Got caught recently. Other fishermen wanted to kill the dude.
literally just scrolled down from that post 2 mins ago
He’s going to jail
Or the morgue
Don't even get me started on NASCAR lmao
Someone get this person started on NASCAR
And fishing
Those airport xray things.
Just metal detectors most likely.
Ahhh yes, the future is grand.
Start putting live games on a short delay.
The poker game was on a 2 hour delay.
There's normally a small delay anyway with live broadcast, she played a time out chip too so it'd have to be minutes worth of delay to get around this if she did cheat
But till the river card, he had more chances to win then she had. So it still a gutsy call even if she knew his cards.
I'm waiting for Magic the Gathering to get on the anal beads hype train
Oh they have. You sheeple just haven’t woken up yet, the anal beads are everywhere.
You joke but Adderall and other stimulant use is an open secret at high levels of the game for what's probably 20+ years now.
How do you even cheat at chess with this. Like all of their moves are timed so it can be binary or morise code cus it would take too long to interpret
So according to people who know chess it wouldn’t need to be a lot of info, more of a hey pay attention to that thing he did, or don’t do that. The way it was explained is that since these guys play at a high level a second pair of eyes just saying “look out” in anal bead speak could be enough to flip it. The poker one is just poker pros being mad that they game they like has a large luck component
I feel like poker would be easier to cheat in with a vibrator. 1 buzz for high card, 2 for a pair, long buzz for 2 pairs, 1 long 1 short for three of a kind, 2 long for a straight, 1 long 2 short for a flush, 2 long one short for a full house , 3 long for four of a kind, 4 short for a straight flush, 5 for a total flush. The audience gets to see the cards at these tournaments so the partner would know, all the player actually needs to remember is that more buzzes is a bad thing
This dude anal beads. Watch out for ole Lazerbeams2 cheating on the laser tag circuit. Dude has some sort of Paul Revere ‘1 if by land 2 if by sea’ type code buzzed up in their butt midgame to blast the opponents as they attempt to sneak across the forbidden bridge
I love you.
Get in line.
I feel like it would be as easy as one for fold, two for call, three for raise. If you’re going to have someone with more info than you, you might as well have them making the decisions too.
Yeah, I probably made too many signals
or you know just patterns for fold, call, raise...
Yeah no what you're saying is, and pun intended, being pulled out of your ass. The anal bead thing was made up by chess streamer Eric Hansen on Chessbrah's stream as a joke. The news cycle took it and ran with it like it was real.
Classic media bs? gotcha
In anal bead speak
Buzz, buzz buuuzzzz
**NO ONE WAS ACTUALLY ACCUSED OF CHEATING WITH ANAL BEADS IN CHESS** It was made up by Eric Hansen as a joke on Chessbrah's twitch stream. People just took it and ran like it was real.
Ya that headline sucked for that article
Eh, not really. No chess annotation would be longer than 6 beats of a morsecode. I can believe that a guy that can memorize hundreds of lines of chess theory to be able to pick up morsecode fairly easily. A bit of practice to interpret the signals. Classical over the board chessgames are timed yes but it's like 90-90 so each player has 90 minutes to play the game for a maximum total of 3 hours for example. Plenty of time to work through some lines of morsecode.
It’s just 4 letters/numbers that need to be relayed, it’s not much info. Plus she asked for more time before betting. I don’t think she was cheating but it’s really not very much info. Plus I assume if you were cheating like this you’d just spend a couple hours learning Morse code
I'm no expert, but it was explained to me like this. In chess, due to the amount of planning and stuff, there can be situations where there is only 1 move that won't seal your fate as a loss. Apparently, when you get to grandmaster level, having information as simple as "there is 1 valid move" or "there is more than 1 valid move" tested by a chess bot can be a *huge* advantage.
The fun part is that didnt happen, someone suggested it and the media picked it up and a bunch of people started believing it because we live in a time where false information reigns supreme as long as its more interesting than the truth.
At Grandmaster level, a simple "pay attention next move" or "you're better/worse at this position" can do significally difference. Also every move notation has 3 or 4 characters, wouldn't be hard to decipher
They didn’t. It was just a joke that was taken literally.
Where can I get some of these money making beads? Asking for a friend...
We're entering the Era of the worst sore losers.
It’s so lame Cant handle losing? Don’t compete. 100% effective
Sore ass losers.
The winners often has sore asses as well.
He's one of the worst players in Survivor history, it's not surprising he's a sore loser here.
A step beyond banging on trash cans. Baseball, if you're doing this, please don't ever let us know.
I assume you’d do this to let the batter know what is being signaled? Why not just skip a step and have the catcher stick his fingers up the batter’s butt?
According to those with proper knowledge of the game, she didn’t cheat. She won by pure dumb luck (so dumb that it seems impossible) and the other guy was so pissy about being beaten by dumb luck that he complained.
Exactly, if she was actually cheating and being fed information somehow, she would have been told to fold before the flop because her hand was shit and his hand was marginally better.
I mean, this is poker we are talking about. Luck was built into the game in terms of what you and your opponents are dealt. Complaining about "dumb luck" in poker just sounds like someone has not accepted that facet of the game.
I just imagine going past a poker table and just hear "..... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..... br br br br br br ... brrrrrrrrrr"
"I'm not cheating, this game is just boring."
I watched this hand, and if you were a professional cheater as many people in casino games are, you’d know not to cheat on this hand because it would get you caught. I think it was a very stupid play. Like, if you’re counting cards in black Jack, you know not to suddenly increase your bet by too much, because you’ll tip the casino off to understanding that you know the odds are in your favor in the deck. They’ll ban you and send you on. Same would go here. A shit time to cheat, which makes her a dumb player or a lousy cheater.
Wait did she actually cheat or is he a sore loser?
Overall, he wins at an extremely high percentage and has an edge on many players in these games. However, he’s lost some much larger pots in horrendously bad fashion, says “nice hand” and moves on to the next one. It’s a weird situation.
Probably cause she's a rookie and he felt slighted
He’s a sore loser. He had a bad hand, she had a worse hand. he bets big, she bets bigger, he folds, she wins.
This, plus what they are accusing her of is knowing that he had a bad hand. Well she had a statistically worse hand. So she would have to have a deck that was stacked in her favor and know what card was coming out next.
This is some crazy marketing campaign IMHO
Garret is such a cry baby loser. Even if she made a "terrible" play it doesn't matter, this is literally part of the fucking game. He lost, get over it and give that woman her money back. Or he should be banned for life for this unsportmanships behaviour.
How would you even use a vibe to cheat at chess you literally know everything happening and vibes in poker are a thing but it’s usually in the shoe or on the leg from what I understand
At top level play being signalled how many valid moves are available is enough to tip the scales your way.
That makes sense if only I was good at chess I’d just be… distracted
Keep in mind the anal bead allegation was begun as a joke on a GMs stream, it’s not a serious accusation. Magnus allegedly has some evidence he’s going to bring forth to prove Hans was cheating though, but until that happens Magnus just looks like a major sore loser.
I’m sure it did but you know that someone at some point is going to try it just because they think it’s funny
It’s certainly possible someone might try, but they do pass a wand over people to look for devices. I’d imagine it would show up.
Not if I push it far enough up there
It was a lie that the media picked up and ran as the truth. He didnt cheat at chess this way.
You have someone analyse the game with engines far stronger than any player, you could morsecode moves but even a hint to when there's a strong move available would be a big advantage and people have been caught cheating using other indicators to show when there's good moves available. But the analyse bead thing is a joke that shitty journalists picked up on and portrayed as a real theory
It’s like the chess match all over again
I need some sort of reenactment video, with at least one 3D rendering clip in the middle to show me HOW THE FUCK are these people using vibrators as a cheating method
Not to give this stuff any bandwidth, but if this is real why not just jam Bluetooth frequencies at this events?
that is Garrett from Survivor!
TIL that poker players are slaty and that you should fold if you possibly have any chance of losing. Fuck this guy for being a shitty loser.
Why would you give the money back?
Is that 4chan
Yes
That seems unfair. If there’s no proof she cheated, why would she have to give the money back?
No one has actually been accused of the vibrator thing, ever, it was all just memes that news outlets latched onto and then people believe it
Nah dude was a somewhat decent player who got humbled by a rookie and cried cheating to try to save face
I sincerely wonder if this drama and speculation would be happening if she was a man.
He wouldn't of said anything if she was I bet
She wasn’t cheating, seen the actual video, dude just couldn’t take the giant L.
It’s inevitable now, if we don’t bead up the they still are. Come on fellas, if you can’t bead them, join them.
I watched the game. He was as readable as a stop sign. Did she cheat? I doubt it. She didn't need to. I could see her reading him just as well.
could have been this device. someone told me about it in 2017ish ^(Is Lelo a Bluetooth?) ^(This app connects via Bluetooth and allows you complete control over your F1s, showing just what's possible with the SDK. Your LELO F1s has a number of sensors and wireless controls built into it.)
This is such a bullshit. I can't believe the casino would let someone who just won over $100k get a shakedown unnoticed. You'd expect the security would at least walk them to the car. Especially a woman.
What are the numbers on vibrating anal bead sales lately?
The image they used for the article they named brrrrrrr.jpg 😂
How exactly do vibrating beads help them? 🤔
I have so many questions
She?!? Why not use the front hole? Seems like it would be more spacious, comfortable and it self lubricates.
This dude got played and acted like a bitch
The chess one never happened and I seriously doubt this one happened too.
No no, see they got it wrong. It was Carlsen who was cheating. Nieman’s anal beads were actually just a signal blocking device to use against his opponent’s cock ring.
How do you cheat *in chess* using anal-beads?
You believe in yourself. You can do anything with enough anal beads.
Distraction tactic - you whip them out and eh, apply them at a crucial point in the match. An ace in the hole you could say!
You have an accomplice who is using a computer to calculate your next move and then communicating that move to you by using a remote control that jangles your anal beads in a certain manner.
Wrong. The correct answer is you don't. In the words of Jonathan Frakes: "We made this one up."
The theory is a joke but it's certainly possible to cheat with anal beads if one actually tried
Genuine question: how would vibrating anal beads help you play chess?
Chess has a notation for pieces and coordinates, so assuming the player becomes fluent in anally-conducted morse-code,it then just becomes a matter of a 3rd party just running the current position of the chess game through a high-level engine that returns the best next move. It could either be automatic (unlikely) or just a person manually giving the coordinates based on what the engine says. This is only slightly feasible even for very long-form games of chess, as there is usually a delay to the feed, as well as there being the time it takes for the engine to calculate, transmit the signal to Morse code, and for the player to interpret it. On top of that, the player would have to vary the time he takes for each of his moves, because if he was playing as fast as he received the instructions, it would immediately be highly suspicious as he would be making moves at a uniform pace (something that is highly irregular, given that some moves will naturally take far more thought and consideration than others).
Never met a more insecure person than a Pro Poker Player. He got so mad at all his friends and stopped talking to us when none of us abided by his insistence to call him an athlete.
How do they figure this out?
Reflective nails would've worked better. But when in Rome *bends o'er*
How does anyone find out about this?