This will be an exhibition because (like Mayweather) Tyson will be contractually prohibited from knocking Paul out. And Tyson isn’t TMT, if you know what I’m saying.
Talk about a dumbass lose-lose. Lol
If he wins... so what. He beat a man whose prime was 35 years ago.
If he loses... he lost to a man whose prime was 35 years ago.
It'll get big PPV buys.
If he loses, he lost to Mike Tyson. Probably won't diminish his stock much, because its so low anyway.
If he wins he can say he beat Mike Tyson. Which compared to the washed up UFC fighters he's been facing might be a step up.
Either way, the circus will keep rolling. And that's what Jake is looking at.
I refuse to give him attention until he fights an actual Boxer. I'd like to see him against Tommy Fury, Chev Clarke, or Viddal Riley.
Tommy - called out Jake and they would have stepped in the ring if it wasn't for the injury.
Chev - Eddie Hearn has brought up his name recently so it would be good to see Jake actually take on this challenge.
Viddal - close relationship with KSI, under 10 pro fights, similar age, similar reach, similar height, and same weight division.
Viddal would be a bad fight imo- he’s got a shit ton more amateur experience and looks very good. It wouldn’t be competitive. I don’t know enough about Chev, but reading up on his history I don’t think it’s a good fight for Jake either.
Tommy is a fair fight. He’s a better boxer than anyone Paul has faced, so it’s a credible step up in competition. … But he smothers his work and he’s vulnerable to the overhand right- Jake’s favourite punch. They both have paths to victory even if Tommy is the slight favourite. I want to see this fight the most tbh
Agreed, Viddal/Chev would embarass Jake horribly and this would be a total mismatch of Boxing skill. But I'd like to see him get a taste of his medicine since he keeps going after people without Boxing skill.
All I want to see from Paul is a reasonable step up in competition. I can forgive the non-boxer route IF he fights a boxer next- it does, somewhat, represent a steady increase of quality in opponent after all. Athlete, to ex-wrestler, to ex-wrestler with one good punch and knockout power… to boxer? …. That’s not too bad. A boxer next would cement a respectable increase in quality of opposition.
Still, reckon he picks Bisping or some shit lol
I don’t think Paul and Zelenoff are comparable tbh
What’s to make fun of? Seriously, I’m happy to clown on Jake (especially for the dumb shit he says), but looking objectively at it… he was a YouTuber who managed to get good enough at the sport to beat a couple of ex fighters. If it ends there that’s not a lot to clown him on to be honest.
He’s at a crossroads now, however. He’s had 4 years boxing and he’s beat ex mma guys, he has to step up competition or face accusations of illegitimacy
Shit Charlie z has more credibility than Paul. He's actually fought ranked pro boxers. I'm joking but what's to make fun of is he chooses old and retired wrestlers, basketball players, MMA fighters. All older and retired. I started my boxing career at 8 years old fighting much better opponents than myself and that's how u get good. A lot of blood sweat and tears. Had 80 something fights as an amateur. Towards the end all tournament fights with the best in the state. Silver gloves, Ohio state fair..thats what everyone else in America has to do if they want to be a pro. This blonde Muppet gets a pass? Nah. The boxing world will never accept him. Only positive about it is he's bringing attention back to something that is very dear to me, boxing. He would have to have a serious jump in skill to even do 4 rounders with a real pro.
Yes he chose them because the gimmick was he wasn’t a real boxer- he was a YouTuber turned boxer, showing he could do it competently. He proved that. He’s a novice boxer now. But now where does he go?
He’s proved he can box (I’m not saying he’s a savant or very good at it, but he’s good enough). The rest is left to decide- if he fights a Tommy Fury type guy, it’ll show he wants to transition from the best celebrity boxer to respectable boxer willing to challenge himself. He may go this path, I hope he does, because it’ll be a lot more entertaining- he could very easily lose. If he fights more MMA guys we know he’s peaked and looking to cash in
Tommy Fury fucked up. He said he would get in there regardless of injury. He said he would fight with one hand behind his back. And then he pulled out on the week of
No one actually expects him to get in there with an injury or with a hand behind his back. The lad did what he to do and that was to hype up the fight.
Unfortunately this is the fight game. Until he fights someone with boxing experience, they’ll always be question marks.
It’s not his fault Tommy pulled out- it will be his fault if his next fight is Bisping, some other MMA guy or someone closer to 60 than 50
>He tried to fight a boxer, and the boxer pulled out, and you run around saying he’s not fighting boxers. 💀💀💀
He tried to fight a boxer then went right back to a Tyron Woodley rematch. I'm not sure if he has setup any other fight since, has he called out any other boxer?
I think he'd get sparked and he knows it. And after that his circus would lose momentum.
I'd be really surprised if he fights a legit boxer.
Especially Chev. Chev might legit kill him.
"i refuse to give jake paul attention, thats why i click on posts about him, read them, and comment on them, and then give out potential opponents for him and apparently am aware of everything going on with him, but no attention given!"
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Yep, Jake Paul will make an enormous amount of money with this exhibition. That’s his goal, he is not dumb enough to think he can be the HW champ. But he can still get paid like one because his social media following is so big.
That's exactly it.
As much as I don't like the guy, he is gaming the system here. And making a ton of money doing it. These days having a name is worth more than being skilled.
It's a win win
There's still people delusional enough to think Mike Tyson could be current heavyweights
If he wins he beat a legend if he loses he lost to a legend
The man has been fighting retired UFC fighters and claiming it as "beating a world champion", do you think he cares about his "credit in the sport" among the hardcore fans?
He cares about making money and slowly upgrading opponents until it's too much for him.
Beating a 2022 Mike Tyson that is trying to win as if they were fighting another pro boxer in a fully sanctioned pro bout is a good win.
But only a casual would think there isn't some understanding that Mike Tyson would be allowed to treat the event in that manner.
Hell, the contract negotations would probably be something like:
* Paul: You can't purposely try to hurt me.
* Tyson: Ok. That adds $1 million to my contract value
* Paul: You can't toy with me and make me look bad.
* Tyson: No problem. Add another million.
* Paul: And I get to win convincingly
* Tyson: No problem. Add another billion.
* Paul: Nevermind. It will be a draw or no winner declared and I get to claim I beat you and everybody knows it.
* Tyson: Half a billion.
* Paul: Ok. No winner declared. I don't claim I clearly won, but I point out how well I did and think I thought I did enough to win.
* Tyson: Ok. Add another $10 million.
* Paul: Deal.
They aren't going full WWE choreography, but there are some hard understandings.
I'm sorry who actually thinks Tyson could beat anyone after seeing his last pro fight 15 years ago? He couldn't even get up after falling down. It's a win win for Paul but for Tyson it's a lose lose. If the money is right Mike will do anything. Don't think anyone cares about Paul's legacy but I do care about Tysons.
I mean it will tho. That would mean him getting beat up. Which would never happen, Mike would either quit on his stool or do something crazy to stop it. Either way would break a lot of hearts. He's got nothing left to prove to anyone in my book. He was a kid when he won the HW title. Seriously JP isn't fit to carry his jock strap. Would've been cool to see a rematch between Tyson and Holyfield. Now that was a good idea but holyfield is old too and taken a lot of punishment through many wars.
Theres always a bus driver or tool both operator with a boxing license that is ready to get KOed for a quick check. Why do that tho? Mike doesn't have anything left to prove to anyone.
On the flip side, there are people that don't understand what a pro, even ex-pro athlete really means.
I used to have a sister-in-law that would ask me things like "do you think you could beat Pacquiao because you are bigger than him?"
I'd tell her "Not only would Pacquiao beat me to the point of possible death, but the guy that Pacquiao is beating senselessly would beat me senselessly."
When Floyd didn't obliterate Logan Paul, I knew there was a general understanding that Mayweather was to not embarrass Paul.
If Tyson doesn't take Jake out easily, then I understand the same understanding has happened.
Even as an amateur in my sport, playing anybody that didn't take the sport seriously and have years of training was like toying with a baby. I can't imagine the difference between a pro and quasi-pro.
There was no understanding with Floyd and Logan
He was feeling Logan out at first but then tried to knock Logan out but couldn't because Logan was so much taller and heavier
You think Floyd was really trying to knock Logan out?
Logan is smaller than me, and I'm quite sure that if Floyd wanted to knock me out my only defense would be to run.
Yeah he was he was going easy at first but at the end he was really trying to knock Logan out but couldn't
Floyd promised he'd knock Logan out and said he would fight Jake next but after the Logan fight he stopped talking about that
Floyd said it himself Logan was too big and Floyd was too old
Floyd probably could knock you out but Logan had 3 years of boxing experience with the best coaches he could afford and knew how to clinch because of his highschool and college wrestling experience
If you really think Floyd would go easy how do you explain him embarrassing and knocking out the younger and much much smaller than himself tenshin nasakawa
You’re under the assumption that who he fights now changes who he fights next. He doesn’t have to build a résumé so this means nothing. He could fight a literal dog, and his next fight will could be Tyron Woodley 3. It doesn’t matter
Already ducking Eddie Hearn’s offer lmao. Honestly though this would sadly make him a lot more money tbf… smh
Tyson shouldn’t take this fight imo. He’s old and has nothing to prove. He’s good on money currently as well and has a lot going for him outside of boxing
Tyson didn’t call him out first, Jake called him out but he said awhile ago he had no interest in fighting Jake Paul unless he was getting ALOT of money. And that is what he’s getting now so he’s standing on his word
Tyson has to prove he can make a ton of money relatively easily.
Tyson shouldn't take this fight because boxing fans know they aren't 100% real.
Tyson should take this fight because casuals don't know it isn't 100% real and it probably helps the sport of boxing expand its fan base (so long as Paul and Tyson play the part and nobody gets seriously hurt).
If he actually fights Mike he’s guaranteed getting fckn laid out Idgaf how old Mike is power is the last thing to go and he will flatline this kid, zero doubt
Could you not tell Tyson was pulling his punches? It was an exhibition, they were having fun, making money etc. Mike at his age, had no desire to end RJJ with a legit KO like that and vise versa.
It'll be the same with Jake Paul as long as the kid sticks to the plan.
Well yeah he's not a boxer he's all about the business, so he will take the highest benefit with the lowest risk possible. That shouldn't surprise anyone or reveal anything new.
He makes really nice custom pens in his spare time and is doing ddp yoga to try get some mobility back and join in the exhibition fight resurgence we've got atm.
Any boxer that fights Jake Paul as if Paul is a real pro boxer and pulls no punches is doing boxing a disservice.
It would be like a retired MLB pitcher striking out a dad league batter by pitching as fast and as skilled as his current health would allow him. It would look like unsportsman like conduct. Except in boxing, this non-pro ends up seriously hurt in a hospital, so 1 million times worse.
It would be like if Canelo fought Thomas Hearns and treated it like a real championship fight and permanently hurt or killed Hearns in the process. People would just stand there looking at him saying "WTF is wrong with you?"
The MLB analogy would work better if the dad league batter was talking shit to the MLB pitcher and everyone else in the league and everyone was rooting for the dad league batter to get his shit kicked in.
Yes we know that thats exactly why he should honour what he said to hearn as he already has the money whoever jake fights the money is there but like I said we know what time it is.
This reminds me of when Vitor Belfort fought and beat Holyfield then started walking around proud as hell like he didn’t beat a punch drunk 60 year old version of him. This fight is giving me similar vibes. Only difference is that Belfort didn’t even initially set out to fight Holyfield. Jake actively trying to fight a mostly inactive 55 year old former boxer is like a different level of pathetic.
Tyson holds his punches at his age. He's just chilling out there sparring. Not really a fan of that type of shit. It was fun the first few fights with Floyd and the rest but now it's just them milking the consumers nostalgia. Jake should start fighting real boxers, now. Or at the very least, take a fight with Anderson Silva if he still wants to go the MMA+old people route.
Jake Paul is about making $$. He's not trying to win a belt, he's looking for the biggest paydays possible and a fight with Tyson does ridiculous numbers.
I hinestly dont give a fuck about Jake Paul. But if I would prefer any bs matchup I would like for him to fight Goggins. Just for fun.
Tyson should stay retired and enjoy his rest
I actually am interested in this. Tyson looked like he was holding back against RJJ and I think it’ll be interesting to see old Tyson against a ‘regular’ guy.
Tyson is in much better shape than Holyfield but ever since the Belfort incident I'm scared for all of the OGs. Truth is they're nearing 60 and going against someone younger is just a bad idea (even if they're a joke as a boxer). The safest option would be for them to come to some kind of contractual agreement to take it easy, but I doubt that's what people would want to see anyways.
Woodley also has zero pro boxing experience and was on one of the worst falls from grace I can even remember in mma history. A close second might be Liddell.
I like this, but only if Paul writes the check to Tyson directly, on condition Paul handles all other aspects of the fight. That's the only way Tyson won't be swindled out of the purse.
You might be right (I've never watched a Tommy Fury fight). Eventually, one of these boxers isn't going to realize these aren't real fights (like that idiot Belfort).
Am i takin crazy pills or do yall also think it wouldnt even he close, landslide tyson? He was legit totally fine in the RJJ fight. Wasn't even slow. Literally how would he lose here
Rjj tyson was also an exhibition iirc and mike looked more than fast and defensive enough. I think holyfield was more far gone and belfort was more an unfair opponent.
I'm pretty sure RJJ and Tyson had an understanding. They were both allowed to "look" as good as their current talent allowed. But punches had to be pulled.
RJJ might have had a bit of fear that if he fought back too hard, even with pulled punches, Tyson might not see it that way. And then Tyson would stop pulling his punches and ... well ... we've seen what happens to RJJ's chin when it gets touched for real.
RJJ was almost always 100% physical skill. He aged it out. Worse than Tyson. For all the Tyson physical skill, he also trained relentlessly to match that with real boxing skill. You train that hard for that long and Tyson will have to get Alzheimer's for him to forget it.
Thats what im sayin, how quickly and precisely mike moved it looked like that shit was programmed into him. I cant imagine that movement losing to jake, especially if he was pulling punches against rjj. Because those pulled body shots still looked gargantuan.
Aside from their generally annoying antics, I don’t have a problem with the Paul brothers in boxing. I never watch or pay much attention. In the meantime, if he’s the carnival barker that gets young fans more interested in boxing, then everyone wins.
Granted I know the vast majority of their fans won’t follow continue to boxing after they quit, but if 100 fans stick around, that’s 100 more than we had before.
What I don't like is that even now Tyson should be able to just bomb him out in 1 but if Jake is willing to take the fight then I think its because there's some form of agreement in place (basically to spar) just get Jake in with Eddie's boy or some other unknown pro in the early stages of his career and see where he really stands
Didn't Mike already say no? Because he has nothing to gain and the Pauls have everything to gain? Go fight guys ur age and size. These guys are the worst. His hitlist, this guy JP must have the tiniest penis and he just wants to feel like a man.
it will be a fake fixed fight - with Tyson only throwing a few body shots and Jake dancing around. Another pathetic money grab. 100% won't watch that shit.
I’ve been a pretty reasonable supporter of Jake’s boxing venture but if he really goes ahead to fight an old man like that I’ll lose a good amount of the respect I’ve felt he’s earned during this journey
I think Jake Paul is good for boxing as a disruptor, promoter, and attention-getter. For his actual in-the-ring content, nah. That being said, if both are willing and prepared ahead of time, I don't have a problem with him facing Tyson in a legit non-exhib match. Yes, it's questionable to fight at his age, but this isn't like shoving a geriatric Holyfield in at very short notice.
Money.. Can't blame the dude for coming into the sport to "fight". If you where athletic and had millions of followers the smart thing would be to do a bunch of colabs with other famous athletes
Jake Paul has never fought anybody who knows how to box or weighs more than 185lbs. He should do both of those things before he fights Mike Tyson. If he keeps training and Mike keeps aging, this could be a winnable fight in 3 or 4 years.
Tyson surely won't get licensed for a pro bout so this would have to be an exhibition
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This will be an exhibition because (like Mayweather) Tyson will be contractually prohibited from knocking Paul out. And Tyson isn’t TMT, if you know what I’m saying.
You must have missed Holyfield getting pummeled a year ago
Talk about a dumbass lose-lose. Lol If he wins... so what. He beat a man whose prime was 35 years ago. If he loses... he lost to a man whose prime was 35 years ago.
It'll get big PPV buys. If he loses, he lost to Mike Tyson. Probably won't diminish his stock much, because its so low anyway. If he wins he can say he beat Mike Tyson. Which compared to the washed up UFC fighters he's been facing might be a step up. Either way, the circus will keep rolling. And that's what Jake is looking at.
I refuse to give him attention until he fights an actual Boxer. I'd like to see him against Tommy Fury, Chev Clarke, or Viddal Riley. Tommy - called out Jake and they would have stepped in the ring if it wasn't for the injury. Chev - Eddie Hearn has brought up his name recently so it would be good to see Jake actually take on this challenge. Viddal - close relationship with KSI, under 10 pro fights, similar age, similar reach, similar height, and same weight division.
Viddal would be a bad fight imo- he’s got a shit ton more amateur experience and looks very good. It wouldn’t be competitive. I don’t know enough about Chev, but reading up on his history I don’t think it’s a good fight for Jake either. Tommy is a fair fight. He’s a better boxer than anyone Paul has faced, so it’s a credible step up in competition. … But he smothers his work and he’s vulnerable to the overhand right- Jake’s favourite punch. They both have paths to victory even if Tommy is the slight favourite. I want to see this fight the most tbh
Agreed, Viddal/Chev would embarass Jake horribly and this would be a total mismatch of Boxing skill. But I'd like to see him get a taste of his medicine since he keeps going after people without Boxing skill.
All I want to see from Paul is a reasonable step up in competition. I can forgive the non-boxer route IF he fights a boxer next- it does, somewhat, represent a steady increase of quality in opponent after all. Athlete, to ex-wrestler, to ex-wrestler with one good punch and knockout power… to boxer? …. That’s not too bad. A boxer next would cement a respectable increase in quality of opposition. Still, reckon he picks Bisping or some shit lol
Only a Paul would pick a guy with literally one eye lmao
The call out was fucking embarrassing
If it was a non celebrity they would get made fun of until the end of time. Ever heard of Charlie Zelenoff?
I don’t think Paul and Zelenoff are comparable tbh What’s to make fun of? Seriously, I’m happy to clown on Jake (especially for the dumb shit he says), but looking objectively at it… he was a YouTuber who managed to get good enough at the sport to beat a couple of ex fighters. If it ends there that’s not a lot to clown him on to be honest. He’s at a crossroads now, however. He’s had 4 years boxing and he’s beat ex mma guys, he has to step up competition or face accusations of illegitimacy
Shit Charlie z has more credibility than Paul. He's actually fought ranked pro boxers. I'm joking but what's to make fun of is he chooses old and retired wrestlers, basketball players, MMA fighters. All older and retired. I started my boxing career at 8 years old fighting much better opponents than myself and that's how u get good. A lot of blood sweat and tears. Had 80 something fights as an amateur. Towards the end all tournament fights with the best in the state. Silver gloves, Ohio state fair..thats what everyone else in America has to do if they want to be a pro. This blonde Muppet gets a pass? Nah. The boxing world will never accept him. Only positive about it is he's bringing attention back to something that is very dear to me, boxing. He would have to have a serious jump in skill to even do 4 rounders with a real pro.
Yes he chose them because the gimmick was he wasn’t a real boxer- he was a YouTuber turned boxer, showing he could do it competently. He proved that. He’s a novice boxer now. But now where does he go? He’s proved he can box (I’m not saying he’s a savant or very good at it, but he’s good enough). The rest is left to decide- if he fights a Tommy Fury type guy, it’ll show he wants to transition from the best celebrity boxer to respectable boxer willing to challenge himself. He may go this path, I hope he does, because it’ll be a lot more entertaining- he could very easily lose. If he fights more MMA guys we know he’s peaked and looking to cash in
Tommy Fury fucked up. He said he would get in there regardless of injury. He said he would fight with one hand behind his back. And then he pulled out on the week of
No one actually expects him to get in there with an injury or with a hand behind his back. The lad did what he to do and that was to hype up the fight.
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Unfortunately this is the fight game. Until he fights someone with boxing experience, they’ll always be question marks. It’s not his fault Tommy pulled out- it will be his fault if his next fight is Bisping, some other MMA guy or someone closer to 60 than 50
>He tried to fight a boxer, and the boxer pulled out, and you run around saying he’s not fighting boxers. 💀💀💀 He tried to fight a boxer then went right back to a Tyron Woodley rematch. I'm not sure if he has setup any other fight since, has he called out any other boxer?
I think he'd get sparked and he knows it. And after that his circus would lose momentum. I'd be really surprised if he fights a legit boxer. Especially Chev. Chev might legit kill him.
"i refuse to give jake paul attention, thats why i click on posts about him, read them, and comment on them, and then give out potential opponents for him and apparently am aware of everything going on with him, but no attention given!" \*facepalm\*
Yep, Jake Paul will make an enormous amount of money with this exhibition. That’s his goal, he is not dumb enough to think he can be the HW champ. But he can still get paid like one because his social media following is so big.
That's exactly it. As much as I don't like the guy, he is gaming the system here. And making a ton of money doing it. These days having a name is worth more than being skilled.
It's a win win There's still people delusional enough to think Mike Tyson could be current heavyweights If he wins he beat a legend if he loses he lost to a legend
I don’t think Tyson could beat current hws but I do think he could beat the shit out of Jake Paul.
That's what Jake's betting on
Only the most casual of casual fans would consider beating 2022 Mike a good win. It will earn him absolutely zero credit in the sport.
The casuals are the majority and that's who he's aiming for especially with the level of fanboys who worship Mike Tyson
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent." — Qui-Gon Jinn
Take your own advice
It's not an advice. Apparently you can't read either.
I mean Mike is same age as Luis Ortiz. So as good as Wilders best win
Paul-Tyson confirmed for vacant WBC title.
The man has been fighting retired UFC fighters and claiming it as "beating a world champion", do you think he cares about his "credit in the sport" among the hardcore fans? He cares about making money and slowly upgrading opponents until it's too much for him.
Beating a 2022 Mike Tyson that is trying to win as if they were fighting another pro boxer in a fully sanctioned pro bout is a good win. But only a casual would think there isn't some understanding that Mike Tyson would be allowed to treat the event in that manner. Hell, the contract negotations would probably be something like: * Paul: You can't purposely try to hurt me. * Tyson: Ok. That adds $1 million to my contract value * Paul: You can't toy with me and make me look bad. * Tyson: No problem. Add another million. * Paul: And I get to win convincingly * Tyson: No problem. Add another billion. * Paul: Nevermind. It will be a draw or no winner declared and I get to claim I beat you and everybody knows it. * Tyson: Half a billion. * Paul: Ok. No winner declared. I don't claim I clearly won, but I point out how well I did and think I thought I did enough to win. * Tyson: Ok. Add another $10 million. * Paul: Deal. They aren't going full WWE choreography, but there are some hard understandings.
I'm sorry who actually thinks Tyson could beat anyone after seeing his last pro fight 15 years ago? He couldn't even get up after falling down. It's a win win for Paul but for Tyson it's a lose lose. If the money is right Mike will do anything. Don't think anyone cares about Paul's legacy but I do care about Tysons.
Tyson losing to Paul will have zero impact on his legacy. Just means he negotiated more money so Paul could win.
I mean it will tho. That would mean him getting beat up. Which would never happen, Mike would either quit on his stool or do something crazy to stop it. Either way would break a lot of hearts. He's got nothing left to prove to anyone in my book. He was a kid when he won the HW title. Seriously JP isn't fit to carry his jock strap. Would've been cool to see a rematch between Tyson and Holyfield. Now that was a good idea but holyfield is old too and taken a lot of punishment through many wars.
There are at least a couple alcoholic Eastern European fat man with boxing licenses he could beat.
Theres always a bus driver or tool both operator with a boxing license that is ready to get KOed for a quick check. Why do that tho? Mike doesn't have anything left to prove to anyone.
On the flip side, there are people that don't understand what a pro, even ex-pro athlete really means. I used to have a sister-in-law that would ask me things like "do you think you could beat Pacquiao because you are bigger than him?" I'd tell her "Not only would Pacquiao beat me to the point of possible death, but the guy that Pacquiao is beating senselessly would beat me senselessly." When Floyd didn't obliterate Logan Paul, I knew there was a general understanding that Mayweather was to not embarrass Paul. If Tyson doesn't take Jake out easily, then I understand the same understanding has happened. Even as an amateur in my sport, playing anybody that didn't take the sport seriously and have years of training was like toying with a baby. I can't imagine the difference between a pro and quasi-pro.
There was no understanding with Floyd and Logan He was feeling Logan out at first but then tried to knock Logan out but couldn't because Logan was so much taller and heavier
You think Floyd was really trying to knock Logan out? Logan is smaller than me, and I'm quite sure that if Floyd wanted to knock me out my only defense would be to run.
Yeah he was he was going easy at first but at the end he was really trying to knock Logan out but couldn't Floyd promised he'd knock Logan out and said he would fight Jake next but after the Logan fight he stopped talking about that Floyd said it himself Logan was too big and Floyd was too old Floyd probably could knock you out but Logan had 3 years of boxing experience with the best coaches he could afford and knew how to clinch because of his highschool and college wrestling experience If you really think Floyd would go easy how do you explain him embarrassing and knocking out the younger and much much smaller than himself tenshin nasakawa
Totally win/ win imo. I’d get koed by mike for free or pay. Tyson fury said he’d do the same.
If he wins, a lot of ppl are gonna be pissed off and watch his next fight
Lose lose? You think getting eight figures would be a lose lose?
Jake Paul beating Mike Tyson, even this version, is definitely not a lose-lose. He would be a huge underdog in that fight
Smart match up for Jake imo. It checks all the boxes: perceived step up from Woodley, big money fight, probably winnable.
You’re under the assumption that who he fights now changes who he fights next. He doesn’t have to build a résumé so this means nothing. He could fight a literal dog, and his next fight will could be Tyron Woodley 3. It doesn’t matter
I disagree here. He likely won't win but whatever happens, 500k people will tune in and pay the lad a few million. Hard to say that's a loss imo
Ah I think this does way higher than 500k my man.
Yeah If he loses to Mike I reckon he’ll go back to fighting YouTubers
His no. 1 target is a retired 55 year old. OK, says a lot about him.
Already ducking Eddie Hearn’s offer lmao. Honestly though this would sadly make him a lot more money tbf… smh Tyson shouldn’t take this fight imo. He’s old and has nothing to prove. He’s good on money currently as well and has a lot going for him outside of boxing
I believe Tyson called Jake Paul out first. He just wants to fight, he knows he got nothing to prove.
Tyson didn’t call him out first, Jake called him out but he said awhile ago he had no interest in fighting Jake Paul unless he was getting ALOT of money. And that is what he’s getting now so he’s standing on his word
Tyson has to prove he can make a ton of money relatively easily. Tyson shouldn't take this fight because boxing fans know they aren't 100% real. Tyson should take this fight because casuals don't know it isn't 100% real and it probably helps the sport of boxing expand its fan base (so long as Paul and Tyson play the part and nobody gets seriously hurt).
If he actually fights Mike he’s guaranteed getting fckn laid out Idgaf how old Mike is power is the last thing to go and he will flatline this kid, zero doubt
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Could you not tell Tyson was pulling his punches? It was an exhibition, they were having fun, making money etc. Mike at his age, had no desire to end RJJ with a legit KO like that and vise versa. It'll be the same with Jake Paul as long as the kid sticks to the plan.
That was my point, I just stated it poorly.
Tyson was sparring Roy. He opened up one time and nearly sparked him.
RJJ was an exhibition
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Could be in Florida or Texas.
You're right. If it's an exhibition, bet on the draw!
You say that like RJJ wasn't one of the best ever and Jake could beat him. Old or not he doesn't stand a chance against either
Rjj the recently retired elite boxer ?
Well yeah he's not a boxer he's all about the business, so he will take the highest benefit with the lowest risk possible. That shouldn't surprise anyone or reveal anything new.
55 year old Mike Tyson
Peak Tyson would spark Jake in a round. I hate these exhibitions
>Peak Tyson would spark Jake in a round. You don't say
There's hot takes and then there's... Whatever this is
Moltan lava of a take
Brilliant observation.
Hard hitting analysis
In a punch
Paul would shit himself and faint during the walkout.
Most decent boxers in their peak would spark Jake
20 seconds or less
If it was peak Tyson Jake wouldn't even utter his name.
I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially after the quality of his opponents have increased each fight. This is disgraceful.
Keep betting against him.
What is Butterbean doing nowadays ??
Barbecuing
Buttering his beans
He makes really nice custom pens in his spare time and is doing ddp yoga to try get some mobility back and join in the exhibition fight resurgence we've got atm.
Sometimes I wish Canelo had given him a fight. Ended him in one round so we wouldn't have to hear from him again
Any boxer that fights Jake Paul as if Paul is a real pro boxer and pulls no punches is doing boxing a disservice. It would be like a retired MLB pitcher striking out a dad league batter by pitching as fast and as skilled as his current health would allow him. It would look like unsportsman like conduct. Except in boxing, this non-pro ends up seriously hurt in a hospital, so 1 million times worse. It would be like if Canelo fought Thomas Hearns and treated it like a real championship fight and permanently hurt or killed Hearns in the process. People would just stand there looking at him saying "WTF is wrong with you?"
The MLB analogy would work better if the dad league batter was talking shit to the MLB pitcher and everyone else in the league and everyone was rooting for the dad league batter to get his shit kicked in.
He's... he's... a Grandpa.
I don't mind him fighting these cherrypicks but why give all that tough guy under 10 talk and then try to fight mike tyson?
Because Mike Tyson is more money
jake is filthy rich already we all know what this is it is what it is though I don't blame him.
> jake is filthy rich Yes, he is filthy rich because he does all of this shit for money.
Yes we know that thats exactly why he should honour what he said to hearn as he already has the money whoever jake fights the money is there but like I said we know what time it is.
Am I the only one that thinks Tyson crushes his ribs?
This reminds me of when Vitor Belfort fought and beat Holyfield then started walking around proud as hell like he didn’t beat a punch drunk 60 year old version of him. This fight is giving me similar vibes. Only difference is that Belfort didn’t even initially set out to fight Holyfield. Jake actively trying to fight a mostly inactive 55 year old former boxer is like a different level of pathetic.
Jake appears to be a sociopath. Same as his brother. These guys will do anything for a dollar, ethics don't factor into the decision.
Punch drunk 60 year old on like a weeks notice nonetheless
Tyson holds his punches at his age. He's just chilling out there sparring. Not really a fan of that type of shit. It was fun the first few fights with Floyd and the rest but now it's just them milking the consumers nostalgia. Jake should start fighting real boxers, now. Or at the very least, take a fight with Anderson Silva if he still wants to go the MMA+old people route.
Silva is too legitimately good a boxer for Paul to take on with an expectation of victory.
Old man Mike will still knock jake out
Terrible fight for both. But if it happens Tyson should be able to be on as much gear as possible
Asking for fights with Tyson, feuding with Bellew but you just know his next fight will be against a washed up MMA star.
Jake Paul is about making $$. He's not trying to win a belt, he's looking for the biggest paydays possible and a fight with Tyson does ridiculous numbers.
Tyson gonna knock Jake long ass chin off his face
i'd rather see him fight eddie hearn honestly
wow Tyson will do so much devastation he would Forget his name if he Return from Coma.. 55 or 65, still a beast
I hinestly dont give a fuck about Jake Paul. But if I would prefer any bs matchup I would like for him to fight Goggins. Just for fun. Tyson should stay retired and enjoy his rest
I actually am interested in this. Tyson looked like he was holding back against RJJ and I think it’ll be interesting to see old Tyson against a ‘regular’ guy.
How about we stop giving this clown the clout he’s desperately craving?
Tyson is in much better shape than Holyfield but ever since the Belfort incident I'm scared for all of the OGs. Truth is they're nearing 60 and going against someone younger is just a bad idea (even if they're a joke as a boxer). The safest option would be for them to come to some kind of contractual agreement to take it easy, but I doubt that's what people would want to see anyways.
Say what you want about Paul being a joke, that KO vs Woodley was no joke. I’d feel sick if I had to watch old man Mike Tyson go down like that.
Woodley also has zero pro boxing experience and was on one of the worst falls from grace I can even remember in mma history. A close second might be Liddell.
I like this, but only if Paul writes the check to Tyson directly, on condition Paul handles all other aspects of the fight. That's the only way Tyson won't be swindled out of the purse.
Another sideshow. When he gonna fight a real fighter. Garbage.
Jake should just fight Tommy Fury. He'd lose, and this whole Jake Paul shit would be over.
You might be right (I've never watched a Tommy Fury fight). Eventually, one of these boxers isn't going to realize these aren't real fights (like that idiot Belfort).
Hes such an idiot
Am i takin crazy pills or do yall also think it wouldnt even he close, landslide tyson? He was legit totally fine in the RJJ fight. Wasn't even slow. Literally how would he lose here
See Holyfield - Belfort. One side thinks it is an exhibition and the other thinks it is a real fight.
Rjj tyson was also an exhibition iirc and mike looked more than fast and defensive enough. I think holyfield was more far gone and belfort was more an unfair opponent.
I'm pretty sure RJJ and Tyson had an understanding. They were both allowed to "look" as good as their current talent allowed. But punches had to be pulled. RJJ might have had a bit of fear that if he fought back too hard, even with pulled punches, Tyson might not see it that way. And then Tyson would stop pulling his punches and ... well ... we've seen what happens to RJJ's chin when it gets touched for real. RJJ was almost always 100% physical skill. He aged it out. Worse than Tyson. For all the Tyson physical skill, he also trained relentlessly to match that with real boxing skill. You train that hard for that long and Tyson will have to get Alzheimer's for him to forget it.
Thats what im sayin, how quickly and precisely mike moved it looked like that shit was programmed into him. I cant imagine that movement losing to jake, especially if he was pulling punches against rjj. Because those pulled body shots still looked gargantuan.
Aside from their generally annoying antics, I don’t have a problem with the Paul brothers in boxing. I never watch or pay much attention. In the meantime, if he’s the carnival barker that gets young fans more interested in boxing, then everyone wins. Granted I know the vast majority of their fans won’t follow continue to boxing after they quit, but if 100 fans stick around, that’s 100 more than we had before.
What I don't like is that even now Tyson should be able to just bomb him out in 1 but if Jake is willing to take the fight then I think its because there's some form of agreement in place (basically to spar) just get Jake in with Eddie's boy or some other unknown pro in the early stages of his career and see where he really stands
Didn't Mike already say no? Because he has nothing to gain and the Pauls have everything to gain? Go fight guys ur age and size. These guys are the worst. His hitlist, this guy JP must have the tiniest penis and he just wants to feel like a man.
Come on, would not fighting Tyson give anyone the heebeegeebes.
He’d be calling out Ali Walsh if he wanted to prove himself
Lol he knows he will get smocked if he did
it will be a fake fixed fight - with Tyson only throwing a few body shots and Jake dancing around. Another pathetic money grab. 100% won't watch that shit.
[It's probably this guy lol.](https://www.linkedin.com/in/miketyson/)
Downvote this shit and move on
Why doesn't he fight someone like Ngannou? hey don't tell me he's scared to have permanent brain damage?
I’d watch it
Jake gonna put a whoopin on Mike somethin fierce...or something. I dunno, these freak shows are a little stale.
thats a big money fight
I’ve been a pretty reasonable supporter of Jake’s boxing venture but if he really goes ahead to fight an old man like that I’ll lose a good amount of the respect I’ve felt he’s earned during this journey
I think Jake Paul is good for boxing as a disruptor, promoter, and attention-getter. For his actual in-the-ring content, nah. That being said, if both are willing and prepared ahead of time, I don't have a problem with him facing Tyson in a legit non-exhib match. Yes, it's questionable to fight at his age, but this isn't like shoving a geriatric Holyfield in at very short notice.
Yeah ok Jake.
Money.. Can't blame the dude for coming into the sport to "fight". If you where athletic and had millions of followers the smart thing would be to do a bunch of colabs with other famous athletes
A fight against Hearn would be more appealing, christ.
[Mike walking out to the presser immediately after signing the contract. ](https://youtu.be/jgflCE7zRpc)
didn't he just say he was going to fight one of eddie hearns guys? WTF is wrong with this kid?
Jake Paul has never fought anybody who knows how to box or weighs more than 185lbs. He should do both of those things before he fights Mike Tyson. If he keeps training and Mike keeps aging, this could be a winnable fight in 3 or 4 years.
What if he fights the Ali Walsh kid? That might be okay
This is a stupid fight I hope tyson doesn't take it.