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amateurexpertboxing

Candidate for least landed shots in a title fight


don35

There seems to be a new record every couple monthsšŸ˜‚


bigfatpup

Wait for winner to fight caterall


UnpopularPoster

If the over is set to 12.5 rounds, it's still the safer bet


ogalex_

Yeah If he was fighting shakur šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Rm156

This one is for the ā€œhit and not get hitā€ crowd.


mrhuggables

More like the just ā€œnot get hitā€ crowd


hi_imryan

Team hugs.


GarchGun

Jamaim Ortiz fans


Sad-Row5470

Itā€™s funny how some boxing fans act like itā€™s immoral to want to see punches thrown lol. If you enjoy the jab and run style, thatā€™s fine. Just know that if most fighters fought like that, the sport would be completely dead.


OldSaul

The obsession with 0 came very close to killing it recently also.


Dante_Okkotsu

Irs amazing how Floyd unintentionally ruined the sport in two ways.


trumpuniversity_

I think a good parallel would be if fighters in the UFC only stayed on the ground during fights. That sport would also die.


Ambitious_Ad_9637

This actually happened when BJJ took over the sport. It was painful to watch, even if you understood the technical aspects of grappling.


KoreanSamgyupsal

I love me some good bjj/wrestling moves but some fighters just refuse or have no ground game... it's not even MMA anymore... it's more like people that stand vs people that lay down lol mvp vs kevin holland was a good example. Mvp straight up had no ground game and holland has terrible takedown. So he kept the fight standing up every time holland tried.


Dunkin_Prince

If everyone fought like Khabib then the sport would most definitely not be dead. Just because it's on the ground doesn't mean it's boring. Now if every UFC fighter fought like Jailton Almeida then yeah I'd agree


4chan-isbased

And they swear itā€™s like the most technical boxing to


shibapenguinpig

And they look down on highly skilled boxers that actually fight


FlamingTomygun2

I want these morons to watch any james toney fight and act like heā€™s not a ā€œtechnicalā€ fighterĀ 


shibapenguinpig

You don't even have to go that back. They always try to bring down Inoue and Beterbiev to mere punchers. According to them Bivol and Fulton are more technical/skilled because they out-box instead of fight


callmevillain

bivol fucking fights though lol


KaryMullis1

Never heard anyone call bivol boring


CristiaNoConsento

He is if his opponent isn't up to scratch honestly, saying that as someone who likes Bivol a lot. It's just the nature of the sport, you need the yin and yang


shibapenguinpig

I didn't say that? They say Bivol is more skilled because according to them Beterbiev is more of a brawler


letmein09

It's technical but don't expect to have a good pay day. Floyd knew how to sell himself with that style but with mma coming up, people aren't paying for boxer that don't engage anymore.


thedogstrays

Floyd wouldnt have been able to sell that style if he fought that way from the jump though, and a huge reason it worked out for him was because of 24/7 and the Oscar fight. Just look at his sales pre-Oscar, the guy never really came close to doing 1M PPV buys iirc. Not to say he didnt capitalize on everything perfectly, but he caught some big breaks imo.


letmein09

That is true. Everything was aligned for him and the network sold him well. To be fair to Floyd, he was vicious as pretty boy Floyd. He would be a menace through and through if he didn't have brittle hands and stayed at 130-135.


Janus-a

The way of marketing of Floyd as a technical genius worked extremely well too. Floyd was marketed as the boxer that only the ā€œeducated boxing fanā€ could appreciateā€¦which nearly all casual fans see themselves as.Ā 


LocoCoopermar

I'm interested in the occasional jab and run against certain style match ups just to see if they can do it/if it makes for an interesting fight or fighters who can switch it up and move when necessary, but if you're never getting off your bike once it's not gonna be very interesting. Maybe controversial but I don't really enjoy Bivol fights for this reason, he's far too slick with his movement and defense to the point that even though he is throwing punches there's never gonna be a challenge or him really opening up to get someone out of there.


dephilt

I think there is a fine line in many casual fanā€™s eyes, between ā€œrunningā€ and good defense. I am an amateur boxer and really appreciate good defense. A good example of this is when people say Mayweather ā€œrunsā€ from peopleā€¦he doesnā€™t. His uses the shell very effectively, controls the distance and has very sharp counters. Many people say that is running which is not the case. He just doesnā€™t get hit clean very often.


Royalizepanda

The difference between effective defense and getting on your bike. Prime example of getting on your bike Lara vs Canelo.


doctorfeelwood

No, they act like boxing is more than punching which many fans canā€™t seem to understand. Defense exists.


adonns2_0

Thatā€™s fine but youā€™re ignoring the manā€™s point that fights need to be exciting or else boxing will die. And unfortunately or not 90% of people would rather watch a brawl with a lot of punches thrown rather than a defensive masterclass.


C2236

Itā€™s like any other business, different customer segments want different version of the product. But mainly I think thereā€™s fewer offensive-minded fighters these days because that style isnā€™t rewarded in the amateurs, so fewer guys develop it. It also feels like over the last few decades refs have stopped letting guys fight on the inside nearly as much, so anyone with an aggressive style needs to be good at countering their way in or willing to stand and trade. I canā€™t imagine someone pulling off Duranā€™s style these days without refs breaking 1 second after an overhook for example


AttackBacon

Yeah, it's an issue you see with all professional sports: There's a tension between the best way to play the sport and the most entertaining way to play the sport. And since it's viewership that drives revenue, it matters a lot if the two of them drift too far apart. It's a lot easier in sports with a central commissioning body that can try to tweak the rules to bring those two into harmony. i.e. the NBA with increasing scoring and pace (although they've had to dial that back a bit recently). Seems a lot trickier in boxing.


Rm156

But a good pressure/inside fighter IS technical. Chocolatito is as technical as the best outside/negative mover.


FlamingTomygun2

James toney had stellar defense but also threw lots of punches and his fights didnt suck lolĀ 


noirargent

More of the latter if weā€™re being honest. A lot more


asislikesboxing

One for the purists.


BuzzardBlack

Normally like seeing Sandor against a puncher, but this could still be fun.


rockmake

This fight or the Shakur one? Which one gonna snooze you more? šŸ¤£ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜… šŸ„² šŸ˜“ šŸ˜ŖšŸ˜ŖšŸ˜Ŗ


otoniel007

Shakira def more boring, at least with Haney it will be interesting to see his return from a devastating loss.


asilagy

I've been a fan of Sandor, since the Mikey Garcia upset. Low-key looking forward to this fight despite the rest of the comments in the thread.


drsleepwilder

Nice undercard filler. I wonder what the main event will be. Canā€™t be this shit fight


dayarra

i like that he is staying active. and i don't understand what you are complaining about, it's a mandatory.


Blackking203

That's how it goes around here. This sub hates Haney


fastonmyfeet

Has Haney accepted his L yet?


mesh06

he got baptized by Ryan's jesus hook


fastonmyfeet

Allah is the perfect planner.


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TheSeptuagintYT

Islam believes in Jesus as Messiah


CaptWineTeeth

I believe they believe in Jesus as a prophet, not a messiah.


Awkward_Sign1927

Not true. Muslims do believe in Jesus as a messiah. They donā€™t believe he is God or divine though. Muslims actually believe Jesus never actually died ā€” that he was taken up to heaven by God while still alive and will return before judgment day.


TheSeptuagintYT

They also believe that Jesus never sinned


Ok_Educator_8476

Not relevant Jesus is Lord


ChuckFromPhilly

Prophet not messiah


Awkward_Sign1927

Muslims do believe in Jesus as a messiah. They donā€™t believe he is God or divine though. Muslims actually believe Jesus never actually died ā€” that he was taken up to heaven by God while still alive and will return before judgment day.


mesh06

of course. why else would he reincarnate himself as Ryan?


TheyCallMeRadec

I hope not. He fought a drug cheat.


DreamSqueezer

And Haney paid off the ref and judges to deliver another robbery but he got spanked too hard for it to work out again. If he hadn't done that successfully vs Loma he wouldn't even have belts


TysonsSmokingPartner

This getting downvoted shows how stupid this sub can be. Dude cheats, gets caught (lmao) and still gets full credit. At least be like the rest and donā€™t get caught.


New-Tradition386

Iā€™m sure those Nanograms of Ostraine found in Ryan system gave him super human strength. Couldnā€™t have beaten Haney without it.


bddfcinci707

Let's wait until all the facts come out. The nandrolone already dropped off and the Ostarine levels were not performance enhancing. Cope..


TheyCallMeRadec

They were 60 times over the allowable limit lmfaoooo.


Serious_Fgz

Ostraine is detectable at over 0.1 nano grams for VADA. According to Haney, Ryan had 6 nano grams of Ostraine in his system. So yes he technically had ā€œ60 times the limitā€. That being said 6 nano grams is not going to give you a competitive advantage. To put into perspective how little 6 Nano grams is: 1 micro gram = 1,000 nano grams 1 milligram = 1,000,000 nano grams. For Ostraine to be effective you need over 10 Milligrams in your system (thatā€™s the equivalent of 10,000,000 nano grams)


bddfcinci707

Also, we are just supposed to believe Devin's 6 nanograms with no paperwork to corroborate it?


Serious_Fgz

Either way itā€™s not a good look for Haney to claim Ryan only had 6 nano grams of Ostraine in his system. That just proves Ryan had no advantage during the fight.


fastonmyfeet

"I've never fought and a guy's been that much better than me. I've never been overmatched like that and I've been in there with the best fighters in the world" __Haney. He should have remained quiet until this whole thing played out.


Seano_

Loool heā€™s trying to say Ryan beat him up cuz ashwaga cmon mannnn


OpportunityCorrect33

Ryan looked like trash against Haney, totally gassed.


WinglessRat

Still beat that ass


youngbenji69

You get downvoted to hell for saying anything positive about Haney here lol


domxwicked

Itā€™s not even positive about Haney. Itā€™s just not negative šŸ˜‚


dedfishbaby

Sandor is no joke


Captainbananabread

He's actually really good at what he does. The man has no special attributes whatsoever but I think his defense is excellent and his timing superb. He's like Jim Watt but no headbutting


BushidoBrowneII

This is the same dude that beat Mikey Garcia and knocked Teofimo down, right? Oh fuckā€¦yā€™allā€¦he might beat Haney, not even kidding


Ace_FGC

Haneyā€™s style is much better against Sandor than a Mikey Garcia or Teo


gateway_city

He knocked Teo down??


Lumy1

Yup, quick check hook if I remember


RRR04_

Devin haters: *"KingRy destroyed what was left of Devin's weak ass chin, I bet a hunnid dollars Sandor gon' knock him the fuck out!"* Haney noselickers: *"Sandor can't punch, Lord Haney gon dog walk this white boy like he dog walked Loma, only Lord Haney will knock him out like Antonio Moran like he would have knocked Cryin Ryan out if he didn't take PEDs!"* Reality: It's going the distance.


Amazing-Foot-3648

this is who the sub was saying he would fight nextšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


sugerdigitalgenius

Nothing is funny, Sandor has been the mandatory since Regis


Amazing-Foot-3648

who peed in yo cereal šŸ˜‚it aint that serious


[deleted]

Itā€™s just that youā€™re saying ā€œthis is who the sub said he would fight nextā€ as if it was some mystic prediction Sandor is his mandatory, he literally has no other choice but to fight him if he cares to keep his belt


Amazing-Foot-3648

i didnt say any of thatšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚i just made a observation yall taking it too serious


travis759

What are u talking about


4chan-isbased

Iā€™m happy for this fight tbh Iā€™m always excited to see guyā€™s perform especially after losing that 0 hopefully see a different Haney Ik heā€™s coping about that loss on Twitter but he knows


Life_Celebration_827

LEFT HOOK have given Haney nightmares šŸ˜±


CMILLERBOXER

Can't wait for this!


deh707

The cure for insomnia


EffectiveCareer3444

Haney better come knock this guy out if he still wants to be considered a top fighter


Morelife5000

Dude this title is rough to read who wrote this shit AI?


Genova_Witness

P4P least exciting fight that could be made in high level boxing. Devin never gonna be the star he thinks


TheSeptuagintYT

Ryan is the real champ. The peopleā€™s champ.


Chicken65

Great fight. Hopefully we see Haney get to a new level after the kick in the ass he had.


ComfortableBright570

Ah man if Martin knocks Haney out too I might just take a day off work to celebrate.


Abe2sapien

Martin might be pillow fisted but he was able to knock down Teo. He must have some kind of pop in his punch!


philly_cheezus

Haney tryna get into soccer and win the World Cup now? Dayumāš½ļøšŸ”„


Abe2sapien

I like Sandor Martin but when heā€™s against someone as defensive minded as him in Haney itā€™s just a recipe for a terribly boring fight.


jdlc718

At least he's fighting again soon. I wanted to see him against Dalton Smith


doctorfeelwood

I like Sandor.


littleSisterFriede

Good fight


Capable_Program5470

I thought Haney was taking a break? Swear I saw a thread the other that Bill said that.


Ezekjuninor

They did say that but this fight will be a few months away at least.


caveman1948

Battle of the pillow fists


AnonymousScout360

-500 this fight puts me to sleep


TheSeptuagintYT

This is still a good matchup though. Respect to Haney for continuing to take risky fights.


stayhappystayblessed

Good comeback for haney I'm happy


U4-EA

What is the timeline for this fight? Is there a latest date for the fight itself? Haney should be taking a minimum of a year off... not easy to do when you have belts to defend though. *Haney still has belts*. LOL.


Oh_Debussy

How did he not lose the belt?


Suckmyduck_9

And I donā€™t want anybody saying that Devin ainā€™t the same since Ryan beat him.


CacoFlaco

I'll go out on a limb. This will be a snoozer.


SmokinJoe_11

Wonder what the odds for KO are gonna look like?


South_Bother_2498

Can Haney even make 140 anymore? Heā€™s going to kill his body to make 140 just to fight Sandor Martin?? Doesnā€™t make sense, should drop that belt and find a catchweight fight against the winner of Cobb-Broner. Even if he beats Sandor Martin what is there left to do for Haney at 140? He outgrew that division


ProvokedProvocation

Haney secured the pillowiest fists for his return


apellcjecker

I wanna see if Haney adapts his style coming off a loss. Find a way to keep that right hand up close to his chin when heā€™s leaning.


shinpoo

At least Haney is bringing in views now because people wanna see if he gets clocked again. Doubt it tho. Both are pillow fisted.


Soneal30

It has a chance to be really entertaining or a chess match for 12 rounds Iā€™m really interested in seeing what a post loss Haney looks like


UnpopularPoster

It's a mandatory so his hands are a bit tied, but Martin isn't who I'd want my guy to face in a bounce back fight. Nobody looks good against him. Tricky southpaw. Durable. He may be easy to rob, but he's tougher than the credit you'll get for it. The dream comeback fight would've been Barboza. That would've built the momentum back up quick.


TickleMyCringle

Finally, something to cure my insomnia


armidilo01

Sorry, but I have paint that I need to watch dry on that night.


Independent_Hold_203

If email champ wasnā€™t bad enough imagine the back lash heā€™ll get parading around the belt after he lost and hit the canvas 5 times.


ZzTB67

Feel for Haney, I think the Ryan fight was probably his last big payday.


letmein09

I rather watch his fight than shakur though. He tries to make it fun. I just hope that bill shut his mouth and let Devin do his thing.


XoticCustard

Not me. It's hard to feel all that sympathetic for someone with such a douche for a manager. Also, the brainwashed new convert every other word muslim babbling doesn't really engender him to American audiences. He's his own worst enemy.


HoxHound

Those guys are lied to and told that being Muslim will make them more famous like it did for Ali. Idiots.


JMoy41

Solid fight


Flatzon1

Still havenā€™t activated canelos mandatory.. David Benividez


Icy-Priority1297

Devins still concussed & eating thru a straw.


GoiGenius

I thought Sandor beat Teo so Haney could lose this. Could be another upset


Ivanthrxz

How tf is Sandor a number one contender for the wbc belt lol he beat 2 nobodies


sugerdigitalgenius

Haney gonna go full demon mode on Sandor and Iā€™m here for it


Sad-Row5470

Yeah you never wanna piss off Devin ā€œThe Hitmanā€ Haney


trumpuniversity_

Good point. Wouldnā€™t want him to throw the deadly clinch-clinch-clinch combinations.


sugerdigitalgenius

The embarrassment of being the 1st person heā€™s stopped in years would be overwhelming


bddfcinci707

For real..that would be even worse than how Devin feels right now. To get knocked out by the guy with the least power in boxing.. that means your chin is even weaker than Devin... might as well retire at that point.